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Posted By: MtnBoomer Gallagher Verdict, Freed! - 07/02/19
Per Fox
Freed!
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Gallagher Verdict! - 07/02/19
Just got it for Posing with the body. GFH!
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Just got it for Posing with the body. GFH!

What a CF.
Well I am glad he was released. It is a complicated case and I think it unfair to judge a combat man from the air conditioned comfort of a nice court room back here in the states.
It is a dirty war.
Good news. If a Navy SEAL kills you, it's cuz you needed kill'n!
Great news!
Posted By: deltakid Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
I am hoping that that minor conviction will not negate his retirement. It would not surprise me at all if the Navy went after that, now that he has been cleared.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Just got it for Posing with the body. GFH!

What a CF.



Everything politically charged is usually a CF.
Posted By: 44mc Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
good deal!!
Posted By: TimZ Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
That made my day!
Another failed Malicious Prosecution.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19


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Posted By: jwp475 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19


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Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Awesome!
Sharpening his knife, ready for a few more of America’s enemies. Hasbeen
Good news, but they owe him something for this charlie foxtrot . Some professional chair squatter decided he was the chit.
Great News!
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Awesome news!
We send these men to do bad things to bad people and when they do that we should never second guess them.
Congrats Chief!!
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Awesome news!
We send these men to do bad things to bad people and when they do that we should never second guess them.
Congrats Chief!!
Great news ! I hope the picture conviction isn’t enough to screw him out of his retirement and finishing his career.
Originally Posted by TBREW401
Awesome news!
We send these men to do bad things to bad people and when they do that we should never second guess them.
Congrats Chief!!


You can say that again!
Just one more thing to celebrate this week...............
Posted By: boatammo Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
That's great news!!!!!!!!!
Back in the 80's it was that any court martial conviction within 6 months made one ineligible for reenlistment. I hope he has more than 6 months before his current contract is up.
Posted By: ribka Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Outstanding

Obama gfy
Should have never happened.

They tried to scapegoat him and others from the start.
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Does he have legal recourse against the abuse of the Navy toward him leading up to his trial?
Posted By: deflave Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Great news.

Kudos to all involved in this win.

They ain't easy that's for sure.
Posted By: deflave Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/02/19
Originally Posted by IZH27
Does he have legal recourse against the abuse of the Navy toward him leading up to his trial?


Mmmm, no.
Like I said before, give the man a medal and a house.
Now lets find out if Hillary is guilty.
Outstanding.
Posted By: domit Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
god bless all of our service men and women! let them know WE stand behind them.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Great news!
A good raghead is a dead one
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Posted By: scoony Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
So for all the service members that choose the hard right over the easy wrong????? Guess it doesn't matter anymore. It is not about tying their hands, its not about judging them from AC offices, it's about expecting a certain level of professionalism. There should be a distinction between a soldier and a murderer. IMO he crossed that line. But yeah, it was a major CF.
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Originally Posted by scoony
So for all the service members that choose the hard right over the easy wrong????? Guess it doesn't matter anymore. It is not about tying their hands, its not about judging them from AC offices, it's about expecting a certain level of professionalism. There should be a distinction between a soldier and a murderer. IMO he crossed that line. But yeah, it was a major CF.

You have no idea what occurred.
Some of his accusers should probably watch their six - - - - - -for a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time to come. Karma's a beeyotch!
Jerry
Posted By: skinner Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
I will be enjoying the 4th of July even more now!
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Some of his accusers should probably watch their six - - - - - -for a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time to come. Karma's a beeyotch!
Jerry



Yeah, it'd be nice to read of their mysterious, untimely demise.
Posted By: deflave Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Look at the money and man hours the government spends on total fugking bullschit.
Posted By: bigwhoop Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
The corrupt JAG team are the dregs of the Obongo administration. Where the ROE's were written to the detriment of our military. The lack of basic investigative protocol is embarrassing. And there are other military suffering the same fate. The JAG officers involved in this high stakes lynching attempt ought to be sent to GITMO and commiserate with their buddies.

Eddie Gallagher did more in one day to defend our Country than the lot of those JAG officers did in their careers.
They are to be on Fox and Friends tomorrow morning....

Sorry for the mis-labeled subject... Cleared, not Freed may have been more accurate.
MtnBoomer: I heard on FOX Business News just now that he was indeed cleared of the "murder" but was found guilty of "posing for a picture with the dead person"!
And I am sure the report relayed that he faces life imprisonment on that charge???
I have been searching for more info but can find none.
I pray I heard that report incorrectly somehow - or the reporter misspoke!
Can anyone clarify or shed light on this part of the proceedings.
TIA
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Political witch hunts such as this makes one question why they would even consider volunteering to "defend" the country. About half the population isn't worth the risk of defending.
Good......I'm not only glad about the verdict but I'm tired of seeing his camera hog wife on TV every day.
I heard a report that the charge convicted would carry a 4 month term which he has already served. We'll see.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
This one had me worried with the incriminating testimony being dribbled out. At times i couldnt believe Trump took up his ca u se.

MAGA.

Now lets get Clint Lorance free, the guy who had 3 sand n's taken out for charging his troops on a motor bike with explosive satchels.

He was screwed for firing on them without being fired on first.
Posted By: Bobmar Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Good......I'm not only glad about the verdict but I'm tired of seeing his camera hog wife on TV every day.


I didn't see it that way. To me, it seemed like she was doing what she could to fight for her husband. I respect that and her.
Originally Posted by Bobmar
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Good......I'm not only glad about the verdict but I'm tired of seeing his camera hog wife on TV every day.


I didn't see it that way. To me, it seemed like she was doing what she could to fight for her husband. I respect that and her.


Will you still feel that way when she hits the talk show circuit next week.
Posted By: Bobmar Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Depends. I think they are entitled to a victory lap. She's able to say things he can't, as long as he remains on active duty. I'll withhold judgement for the time being but I hope nothing happens to change my current opinion.
Oorah! Semper Fi!
Originally Posted by deflave
Look at the money and man hours the government spends on total fugking bullschit.


Amen and Hallelujah.
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Good......I'm not only glad about the verdict but I'm tired of seeing his camera hog wife on TV every day.


Maybe its just the viagra talking but she kinda hot.
Sometimes the good guys win.

Even with a liberal laced military justice system stacked against them.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Originally Posted by Bobmar
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Good......I'm not only glad about the verdict but I'm tired of seeing his camera hog wife on TV every day.


I didn't see it that way. To me, it seemed like she was doing what she could to fight for her husband. I respect that and her.



Exactly.
Originally Posted by Bobmar
Depends. I think they are entitled to a victory lap. She's able to say things he can't, as long as he remains on active duty. I'll withhold judgement for the time being but I hope nothing happens to change my current opinion.




She wakes up with a killing (some would say murdering) husband every day - and you know there is no place, with him by her side, that she does not feel safe. PLus not too bad to look at...
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
He's not out of danger of the Navy completely fuggin him up. He was convicted of one charge (felony) of taking a picture with a dead guy. They Navy can Administratively Separate him and he'd lose his pension and healthcare (unless Trump pardons him), but they can even get around that by taking him to Captain's Mast (non0judicial punishment), give him a Punitive Letter of Reprimand, and go the admin discharge route. Trust me, they can be VERY vindictive...
Posted By: EQFD193 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Yes, Great news....He deserves a medal...or at least an apology !!!
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Good deal.
Trump must pardon him if the Navy tries to screw him further. The people who persecuted him should be investigated.
Posted By: Hugh Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by scoony
So for all the service members that choose the hard right over the easy wrong????? Guess it doesn't matter anymore. It is not about tying their hands, its not about judging them from AC offices, it's about expecting a certain level of professionalism. There should be a distinction between a soldier and a murderer. IMO he crossed that line. But yeah, it was a major CF.

You have no idea what occurred.

Not a soldier. A sailor ,frogman ,Navy Seal. You know jack [bleep].
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
After a "ride" like that I'd be out ASAP. I would not give those bastards the chance to frame me on something else.
Jorge,

They can't take him to Captain's Mast as that is something they could have done before they preferred the Court-Martial charges against him for murder and posing with the dead body. Captains Mast is a way to have matters cleared up non-judicially, meaning no court-martial. His chain of command could have pursued that, but given the gravity of the alleged offenses Captains Mast was no likely. Now that he has been convicted of posing with the dead body, the Navy could initiate an administrative separation against him, but he would be entitled to a separation board and counsel of his choosing. We will have to see what happens next.

Dan
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Originally Posted by Slidellkid
Jorge,

They can't take him to Captain's Mast as that is something they could have done before they preferred the Court-Martial charges against him for murder and posing with the dead body. Captains Mast is a way to have matters cleared up non-judicially, meaning no court-martial. His chain of command could have pursued that, but given the gravity of the alleged offenses Captains Mast was no likely. Now that he has been convicted of posing with the dead body, the Navy could initiate an administrative separation against him, but he would be entitled to a separation board and counsel of his choosing. We will have to see what happens next.

Dan


I spent thirty years in, so I am very familiar. They cannot take him to mast of the stuff he was charged and convicted of (on shore duty you can refuse mast but on sea duty orders you can't). The fact he has a federal conviction, they can admin sep him just on that. NJP is still an option for just about anything, but again, being he is on shore duty, he CAN refuse iNJP on shore duty. Lots of dirt bags on shore duty do this in the hopes the navy won't want to spend the money and time of a CM for trivial charges like UA, etc., but I guarantee you, they can take him to NJP. Why? because when they arrested him, they could say he was UA (un authorized absence) even for just a few hours. Believe me, if I wanted to take you to mast, I could
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Some of his accusers should probably watch their six - - - - - -for a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time to come. Karma's a beeyotch!
Jerry



Yeah, it'd be nice to read of their mysterious, untimely demise.



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. Seven members of Gallagher's own platoon leveled the accusations against him, describing their chief as a reckless murderer
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Some of his accusers should probably watch their six - - - - - -for a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time to come. Karma's a beeyotch!
Jerry


Ya, that's the part that gives me pause, to celebrate this means I would have to know for a fact those other guys who worked hard to get themselves into that elite, high risk level of service are all a bunch of vindictive liars.

So not knowing all the facts I have no opinion, one way or another.

I am sure the guy has been a tremendous warrior on the very razor edge, but I do believe it seems pretty obvious that Chief Gallagher tanked his career prospects when he posed with that dead body.

Even without that felony conviction the notoriety would follow him everywhere and make him a political liability on the battlefield. Where could the Navy put him anywhere other than behind a desk now?

IMHO.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Sometimes the good guys win.

Even with a liberal laced military justice system stacked against them.


This is President Trump’s military now, why hasn’t the stench of Obama’s military been removed?
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
He will be "asked" to retire or they will Admin Board his ass and risk losing his pension.
Maximum sentence. Reduced rank 1 step. Etc...

Blade is a great handle! LOL
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
I still say he nothing wrong.
He looked like a sawed off little tough guy with a severe case of little dick syndrome.

I don't know what happened and don't give a schit either way.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Sometimes the good guys win.

Even with a liberal laced military justice system stacked against them.


This is President Trump’s military now, why hasn’t the stench of Obama’s military been removed?




Good question, Steve. I would have thought most of those clowns would have been run out on the rails by now.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Sometimes the good guys win.

Even with a liberal laced military justice system stacked against them.


This is President Trump’s military now, why hasn’t the stench of Obama’s military been removed?




Trump's only been in office for two and half years, for Pete's Sake. Most enlistments are longer than that, and they aren't gonna go away, those parasites. They're waiting it out for retirement, just like everyone else.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
He will be "asked" to retire or they will Admin Board his ass and risk losing his pension.


If they do “ask” him to retire I would think that he’d accept that rather than continue to fight. He’s had a long career that likely took a big toll on his body and mind and retirement seems like the best way out for him if that is in fact an option. I don’t think too many people would want to continue serving if they were treated as crappy as he’s been treated. Nobody wants to work for an unappreciative ass hole and the Navy is that ass hole.

He’ll be just fine if he retires, there’s a lot of veteran owned and run companies that would be happy to have a real warrior on their payroll and his experience and skills would not go unnoticed or unappreciated. He should put the navy in his rear view and get on with his life.
Posted By: horse1 Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
I've never been in any branch of the Military. IMO, there are things that happen that should never see the light of "civilian day". Clandestine operations/operators probably ought to be tried specifically only by their peers.
I've got a good friend (NCIS agent) who is very close to this story. Gallagher had become an out-of-control operator that was doing stuff that even his fellow SEALS thought was wrong and exceeding the levels of humanity. Thus, they ratted on him as it was the only way to get him stopped and prevent ALL of them from ending up on the wrong side of Heaven.

Something was uncovered during the investigation of the medics' past that could have caused them some grief and they were given immunity from prosecution to testify against Gallagher. What they didn't expect was for the medic to claim he killed the haji. As a result, it ended up being a win-win - they were able to "save" a fellow SEAL and not be sent to the brig themselves for some bullshit they dug up in the medics' past.

Truth is, Gallagher had gone rogue

Posted By: Bobmar Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
I wouldn't disagree with the above statement and I'm glad that he was found not guilty of the most serious charges. Unfortunately, the one that cost him his anchor is legit. As a Chief you have a responsibility to prevent things like that photo. Or at least not be in it. Rank comes with responsibility and he apparently admitted the misjudgment early on. Seems a bit heavy handed considering his service. The punishment will need to be approved at a higher lever, maybe someone will intercede on his behalf. SECNAV would be a good place to start.
Originally Posted by Hugh
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by scoony
So for all the service members that choose the hard right over the easy wrong????? Guess it doesn't matter anymore. It is not about tying their hands, its not about judging them from AC offices, it's about expecting a certain level of professionalism. There should be a distinction between a soldier and a murderer. IMO he crossed that line. But yeah, it was a major CF.

You have no idea what occurred.

Not a soldier. A sailor ,frogman ,Navy Seal. You know jack [bleep].

Whatever, dude. You know what he meant. I mean, if you want to be persnikkity's about it just be advised that SEAL should be in all caps.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
I've got a good friend (NCIS agent) who is very close to this story. Gallagher had become an out-of-control operator that was doing stuff that even his fellow SEALS thought was wrong and exceeding the levels of humanity. Thus, they ratted on him as it was the only way to get him stopped and prevent ALL of them from ending up on the wrong side of Heaven.

Something was uncovered during the investigation of the medics' past that could have caused them some grief and they were given immunity from prosecution to testify against Gallagher. What they didn't expect was for the medic to claim he killed the haji. As a result, it ended up being a win-win - they were able to "save" a fellow SEAL and not be sent to the brig themselves for some bullshit they dug up in the medics' past.

Truth is, Gallagher had gone rogue


Completely feasible . Happens in every war...
Posted By: Hugh Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/03/19
SEAL !
Foxnews has a new article up that says he's being reduced in rank and sentenced to 4 months, which he's already served. He plans to retire in a couple months when he hits his 20 years.
If the government don't want somebody to be dead, then don't send in the SEALs
What was the reduction in rank and corresponding reduction in retirement pay? Substantial?


Also, is a Presidential pardon possible when convicted by court martial?




Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
I've got a good friend (NCIS agent) who is very close to this story. Gallagher had become an out-of-control operator that was doing stuff that even his fellow SEALS thought was wrong and exceeding the levels of humanity. Thus, they ratted on him as it was the only way to get him stopped and prevent ALL of them from ending up on the wrong side of Heaven.

Something was uncovered during the investigation of the medics' past that could have caused them some grief and they were given immunity from prosecution to testify against Gallagher. What they didn't expect was for the medic to claim he killed the haji. As a result, it ended up being a win-win - they were able to "save" a fellow SEAL and not be sent to the brig themselves for some bullshit they dug up in the medics' past.

Truth is, Gallagher had gone rogue


Completely feasible . Happens in every war...

^^^^ Alright. Acquitted is acquitted.
MtnBoomer,

I suspect that CDR Gallagher will not need a pardon, as the "flag", who must endorse his "sentence", will likely quietly set the only count of which he was convicted by GCM aside.

yours, tex
USA, Retired
Stand alone question on the pardon issue.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Sometimes the good guys win.

Even with a liberal laced military justice system stacked against them.


This is President Trump’s military now, why hasn’t the stench of Obama’s military been removed?


Is this a serious question or are you just ignorant of how military contracts/careers work?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
After a "ride" like that I'd be out ASAP. I would not give those bastards the chance to frame me on something else.


He reaches his 20 year retirement in three weeks. He is demoted one rank.
Originally Posted by Remington6MM
Good news. If a Navy SEAL kills you, it's cuz you needed kill'n!

++ 10
Reduced rank.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...y-after-being-cleared-of-murder-charges/
Posted By: ChuckKY Re: Gallagher Verdict! Freed! - 07/04/19
Originally Posted by Bobmar
I wouldn't disagree with the above statement and I'm glad that he was found not guilty of the most serious charges. Unfortunately, the one that cost him his anchor is legit. As a Chief you have a responsibility to prevent things like that photo. Or at least not be in it. Rank comes with responsibility and he apparently admitted the misjudgment early on. Seems a bit heavy handed considering his service. The punishment will need to be approved at a higher lever, maybe someone will intercede on his behalf. SECNAV would be a good place to start.



It's a shame about that photo. You tell your kids not to be stupid and post compromising photos on the internet, they'll be there for ever. Who would have thought you would have to tell a multiple tour Navy SEAL that?
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