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This is a great example why the Constitution gives us the right to own weapons for our protection. To think that any State or Local police agency would even entertain the thought of forcefully detaining a citizen or legislator on the order of the governor is scary. She doesn't have the right to do that. They broke no law and the entire argument is over a false assumption that we could actually do anything to change the weather. This is wild eyed lunacy of the first water.
Cool, hope they start confronting Antifa.
Just following orders .
The battlefield is approaching.
I understand that the governor may/can order the state troopers to go get the senators, but..... if the senators are in another state, Idaho was mentioned, do the Oregon state police have any authority in Idaho. I dont think so. In that scenario, it would be one citizen (Oregon state police) of the US attempting to kidnap another citizen of the US (Oregon senator).

For the LEO's..... Does the state police authority extend beyond the state lines?
Lock and load- - - -it's a target-rich environment!
Originally Posted by Oldman3
I understand that the governor may/can order the state troopers to go get the senators, but..... if the senators are in another state, Idaho was mentioned, do the Oregon state police have any authority in Idaho. I dont think so. In that scenario, it would be one citizen (Oregon state police) of the US attempting to kidnap another citizen of the US (Oregon senator).

For the LEO's..... Does the state police authority extend beyond the state lines?




Extradition is an act where one jurisdiction delivers a person accused or convicted of committing a crime in another jurisdiction, over to their law enforcement. It is a cooperative law enforcement process between the two jurisdictions and depends on the arrangements made between them. Besides the legal aspects of the process, extradition also involves the physical transfer of custody of the person being extradited to the legal authority of the requesting jurisdiction.

Through the extradition process, one sovereign jurisdiction typically makes a formal request to another sovereign jurisdiction ("the requested state"). If the fugitive is found within the territory of the requested state, then the requested state may arrest the fugitive and subject him or her to its extradition process.[2] The extradition procedures to which the fugitive will be subjected are dependent on the law and practice of the requested state.[2]


Just what crime were those Senators accused or convicted of to allow a request for extradition from one state to another?
The "patriot" militias"are not the only ones ready to "rock & roll."

ANTIFA is training their members in firearms also.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154110/antifa-arming-trump-crackdown

Gonna be interesting one of these days, in my opinion.

L.W.
Unfortunately, any group of patriots who organizes an armed resistance to Antifa mob violence, in the face of local law enforcement inaction against Antifa mob violence, will immediately have Federal SWAT teams and nationalized National Guard forces sicced on them.
Living here:

These guys are overblowing this situation big time...

Queen Kate is making these threats for headlines more than anything....
she's just getting attention because she isn't getting her way..

the DemocRAT Communists have done this themselves in the past...
they are not new to the concept, they are just pissed when its done to them.
nothing new there....

State Troopers aren't going to go out and start shooting at Republican elected officials
I get plenty of opportunity to talk to troopers to include management level types at our local
range all the time.. as that is where they do training at and is 3 miles from my residence.

These Project Veritas guys are just as guilty as the democRAT communist media crying wolf over this entire incident.

They just didn't show up for the vote for a quorum... Queen Katie is all upset like her usual spoiled brat self..
Troopers may have to go out, but they aren't going to comply with her orders..
These out of state people are happily reporting Civil War is going to begin...

the Militia types are all wound up over " Oh boy here we go... .our opportunity to play Rambo"

The entire thing blew over, as simple as the bad weather changing day after tomorrow...


From either side, seems 'news' is blown out of proportion, to meet media's agenda... instead of just reporting the facts.

this is as bad as people screaming civil war at the local high school, because enough kids didn't show up for school, to protest something simple... like poor choice of food selection at the school cafeteria...

much ado about nothing...
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Unfortunately, any group of patriots who organizes an armed resistance to Antifa mob violence, in the face of local law enforcement inaction against Antifa mob violence, will immediately have Federal SWAT teams and nationalized National Guard forces sicced on them.


Unless Antifa is deemed a "terrorist organization"
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Unfortunately, any group of patriots who organizes an armed resistance to Antifa mob violence, in the face of local law enforcement inaction against Antifa mob violence, will immediately have Federal SWAT teams and nationalized National Guard forces sicced on them.

Not so sure about this - the LAST thing the feds want is to piss-off the general public enough that they take up Arms . Very few people have trust in the MSM and the feds these days and they know it .
The Feds certainly have plenty of covert killers waiting in the wings to carry out anything they're told/paid to do though .

An explosion could be heard in the night -''investigation team'' shows up finds that a terrorist group [conservative americans] known to them - were building a massive bomb . Planning to blow up XYZ and as many children & puppies as possible when the bomb maker accidentally set the bomb off killing all the terrorist [americans] . Although the explosion was a drone strike .
Our state has been taken over by the communists.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Oldman3
I understand that the governor may/can order the state troopers to go get the senators, but..... if the senators are in another state, Idaho was mentioned, do the Oregon state police have any authority in Idaho. I dont think so. In that scenario, it would be one citizen (Oregon state police) of the US attempting to kidnap another citizen of the US (Oregon senator).

For the LEO's..... Does the state police authority extend beyond the state lines?




Extradition is an act where one jurisdiction delivers a person accused or convicted of committing a crime in another jurisdiction, over to their law enforcement. It is a cooperative law enforcement process between the two jurisdictions and depends on the arrangements made between them. Besides the legal aspects of the process, extradition also involves the physical transfer of custody of the person being extradited to the legal authority of the requesting jurisdiction.

Through the extradition process, one sovereign jurisdiction typically makes a formal request to another sovereign jurisdiction ("the requested state"). If the fugitive is found within the territory of the requested state, then the requested state may arrest the fugitive and subject him or her to its extradition process.[2] The extradition procedures to which the fugitive will be subjected are dependent on the law and practice of the requested state.[2]


Just what crime were those Senators accused or convicted of to allow a request for extradition from one state to another?


I understand extradition and that's what I believe should take place, if the senators had committed a crime. But, like you asked, "What crime did the senators commit?"

I believe it's just a case of the governor getting her panties in a wad.
Like Seafire says, Kate Brown is a whiny little spoiled bitch that's not getting her way and she's throwing a fit. These people aren't fit for office. I can't believe what our country has come to. We have suffered the fools for far too long and now they are in positions of power over us.

Same thing's going to happen nationwide with the influx of muslims.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Unfortunately, any group of patriots who organizes an armed resistance to Antifa mob violence, in the face of local law enforcement inaction against Antifa mob violence, will immediately have Federal SWAT teams and nationalized National Guard forces sicced on them.

The local, state and federal law enforcement has shown time and again what side they are on, and it isn't our side.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Unfortunately, any group of patriots who organizes an armed resistance to Antifa mob violence, in the face of local law enforcement inaction against Antifa mob violence, will immediately have Federal SWAT teams and nationalized National Guard forces sicced on them.


Unless Antifa is deemed a "terrorist organization"

Which they most certainly are.
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Unfortunately, any group of patriots who organizes an armed resistance to Antifa mob violence, in the face of local law enforcement inaction against Antifa mob violence, will immediately have Federal SWAT teams and nationalized National Guard forces sicced on them.


Unless Antifa is deemed a "terrorist organization"

Which they most certainly are.

They certainly are. But they serve a purpose for the establishment, so are protected.
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.
My family came to Oregon in the 1850's, and I absolutely love the geography and lifestyle of Southern Oregon. That said, Gov Brown Shirt is over the top. She's corrupt as a they get, no respect for anyone remotely center to conservative. Walk lock step with her Marxist agenda or you're enemy #1. Out of the dozen or so LEO's I'm around, including some OSP troopers, none would follow her illegal orders to arrest the State Senators. The Infantry/Cavalry National Guardsmen in the state won't follow her illegal orders. She is going to have a very hard time in office, enforcing her crazy with a bunch of REMF fobbits. The logger/trucker rally on Salem woke a few of the D Senators who changed their vote on the climate change bill, that's why the R's went back to the Senate.

Today a petition was released to get her recall on the November ballot, though no one is expecting that to go very far.
Originally Posted by Seafire
Living here:

These guys are overblowing this situation big time...

Queen Kate is making these threats for headlines more than anything....
she's just getting attention because she isn't getting her way..

the DemocRAT Communists have done this themselves in the past...
they are not new to the concept, they are just pissed when its done to them.
nothing new there....

State Troopers aren't going to go out and start shooting at Republican elected officials
I get plenty of opportunity to talk to troopers to include management level types at our local
range all the time.. as that is where they do training at and is 3 miles from my residence.

These Project Veritas guys are just as guilty as the democRAT communist media crying wolf over this entire incident.

They just didn't show up for the vote for a quorum... Queen Katie is all upset like her usual spoiled brat self..
Troopers may have to go out, but they aren't going to comply with her orders..
These out of state people are happily reporting Civil War is going to begin...

the Militia types are all wound up over " Oh boy here we go... .our opportunity to play Rambo"

The entire thing blew over, as simple as the bad weather changing day after tomorrow...


From either side, seems 'news' is blown out of proportion, to meet media's agenda... instead of just reporting the facts.

this is as bad as people screaming civil war at the local high school, because enough kids didn't show up for school, to protest something simple... like poor choice of food selection at the school cafeteria...

much ado about nothing...

Good post! It happens on both sides. Bullspit to get people fired up. Ratings
Originally Posted by deflave
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.


Finally, I found something we can agree on.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
The battlefield is approaching.



Better now than with another Commie as POTUS.
Good bye Oregon.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
The battlefield is approaching.

I keep hearing this and laugh. The majority of people saying it are nothing more than keyboard warriors.
As I have said before, all law enforcement is on their side. The majority of people on the right are boot lickers that would NEVER oppose law enforcement.

Are you and the other internet bad azzes ready to start shooting the corrupt cops that are protecting the commies? If not STFU
I didn't read all of this but to add I had a neighbor that went to a Militia meeting when Clinton was elected. He said they were a bunch of nuts and after seeing some at another event at a gun range, I know he was correct.
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by stevelyn
The battlefield is approaching.

I keep hearing this and laugh. The majority of people saying it are nothing more than keyboard warriors.
As I have said before, all law enforcement is on their side. The majority of people on the right are boot lickers that would NEVER oppose law enforcement.

Are you and the other internet bad azzes ready to start shooting the corrupt cops that are protecting the commies? If not STFU

You're wrong about LEO's. For the most part they would certainly arrest the antifa, when arrests are justified and necessary, but Portlands criminal mayor has ordered the cops to stand down.

I'll be out there late August and early September. As long as a person stays away from downtown and doesn't stare at strange people, it's like any other city. Kinda. lol
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by stevelyn
The battlefield is approaching.

I keep hearing this and laugh. The majority of people saying it are nothing more than keyboard warriors.
As I have said before, all law enforcement is on their side. The majority of people on the right are boot lickers that would NEVER oppose law enforcement.

Are you and the other internet bad azzes ready to start shooting the corrupt cops that are protecting the commies? If not STFU

You're wrong about LEO's. For the most part they would certainly arrest the antifa, when arrests are justified and necessary, but Portlands criminal mayor has ordered the cops to stand down.

I'll be out there late August and early September. As long as a person stays away from downtown and doesn't stare at strange people, it's like any other city. Kinda. lol


Stand down?? If they had one ounce of integrity they would intervene and deal with the consequences later.
Just following orders... Isnt that what they said at the Nuremberg trials?
No honorable person would stand by and allow this crap to happen. I hold every person wearing a badge just as responsible as the mayor.
Originally Posted by deflave
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.


I see Anti-fARTS every time I go up to Poltandia....

They are pretty much just clueless idiots, with no jobs... live on the government tit
Jump and scream and bitch about ( they aren't really sure) nothing in particular.

Most of their "Legend" is fabricated by the Leftist Ran Media outlets.....

Potlandia and Anti-fARTS is at most an irksome scenario.... much like Minnesota and Mosquitoes...

Only real difference, is you can kill a mosquito in MN and no one cares...

Kill an Anti-fART, it backs up traffic and they would have crying mom's on TV's 5 o'clock news..

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You're wrong about LEO's. For the most part they would certainly arrest the antifa, when arrests are justified and necessary, but Portlands criminal mayor has ordered the cops to stand down.

I'll be out there late August and early September. As long as a person stays away from downtown and doesn't stare at strange people, it's like any other city. Kinda. lol[/quote]

Stand down?? If they had one ounce of integrity they would intervene and deal with the consequences later.
Just following orders... Isnt that what they said at the Nuremberg trials?
No honorable person would stand by and allow this crap to happen. I hold every person wearing a badge just as responsible as the mayor. [/quote]

Whack'em....

you've pegged the Potlandia Cops in the wrong way.... what you see is what the leftist media wants you to see...
Painting the LEOs in a bad light regardless of the situation....

They haul these Anti-fART people in left and right.... not enough manpower to bring them all in... but enough to make the Anti-fA crowd notice....the AntifART types are tough as long as they have an audience.... one hint their media protection is not there, they take off like cockroaches, and head for back under the Refrigerator...

LEOs frustration in Potlandia, is the cops haul them in the front door and the Mayor's office and City Council order them released and out the back door in short periods of time...

The bad guys aren't the cops....the antifart people are just pawns...its basically a battle between law enforcement by LEOs trying to keep order in a beautiful city.. and the city DemocRAT communist politicians, who order them to release the Antifa Crowd...

The turmoil caused by Antifa, keeps the democRATs getting votes from anti-establishment leftist and plenty of out of state money flowing in..... plus Oregon election results? don't count on the voter results broadcasted being a legit number....corruption and voter fraud is off the charts.... same with Washington State and I maintain most of California...

Recall WA is where in the Governors election several cycles ago, the Republican candidate had the most votes....then at the 12th hour and 59 seconds....the democRATs supposedly found a bag of 2000 votes....that was in the front trunk of a VW Bug in a bone yard.. and amazingly ALL 2000 votes were for the democRAT candidate, so she won the election by a meer 129 votes of several million cast.....the left pulls this crap because the right stands down and lets them.....

who in their right mind think a bag of 2000 votes would be sitting in a trunk of a car in a junkyard?

Portland's cops are doing their job....continually being undermined by local leftist politicians...

Instead of antifa clowns they need to be locking up leftist Politicians for corruption...
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by deflave
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.


I see Anti-fARTS every time I go up to Poltandia....

They are pretty much just clueless idiots, with no jobs... live on the government tit
Jump and scream and bitch about ( they aren't really sure) nothing in particular.

Most of their "Legend" is fabricated by the Leftist Ran Media outlets.....

Potlandia and Anti-fARTS is at most an irksome scenario.... much like Minnesota and Mosquitoes...

Only real difference, is you can kill a mosquito in MN and no one cares...

Kill an Anti-fART, it backs up traffic and they would have crying mom's on TV's 5 o'clock news..


They've hospitalized multiple people and gotten away with it.
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by stevelyn
The battlefield is approaching.

I keep hearing this and laugh. The majority of people saying it are nothing more than keyboard warriors.
As I have said before, all law enforcement is on their side. The majority of people on the right are boot lickers that would NEVER oppose law enforcement.

Are you and the other internet bad azzes ready to start shooting the corrupt cops that are protecting the commies? If not STFU


Most of the most vocal ones live in Oregon too.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by deflave
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.


Finally, I found something we can agree on.


It was sarcasm.

You live in a schit hole.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by deflave
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.


I see Anti-fARTS every time I go up to Poltandia....

They are pretty much just clueless idiots, with no jobs... live on the government tit
Jump and scream and bitch about ( they aren't really sure) nothing in particular.

Most of their "Legend" is fabricated by the Leftist Ran Media outlets.....

Potlandia and Anti-fARTS is at most an irksome scenario.... much like Minnesota and Mosquitoes...

Only real difference, is you can kill a mosquito in MN and no one cares...

Kill an Anti-fART, it backs up traffic and they would have crying mom's on TV's 5 o'clock news..


They've hospitalized multiple people and gotten away with it.



At the same time, you don't think a bunch of those clowns haven't ended up getting F'd UP, and ended up needing medical attention then Trav? just because the media doesn't report it, don't think it isn't happening...

they are not the city's darlings like the Media shows and reports..

when antifa people hurt someone, its usually from behind.. to include grandmas and grandpas...

when some of their people get hurt, its usually after they have done the above.. but it certainly not from behind..

antifa and the press is sort of the same relationship with Radical Muslims in the Middle East and the Press....
as soon as the Press, turns off the cameras and loads up the truck....both the press and the protestors all go home..
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by deflave
Portland is ground zero for the most radicalized and violent factions of the left this country has ever seen.

But hey, it beats Florida.


Finally, I found something we can agree on.


It was sarcasm.

You live in a schit hole.


I live 250 miles from Portland sportcoat.

The guy living in FL telling the guy living in Oregon that he lives in a schit hole? Irony, much?
Originally Posted by Fireball2


I live 250 miles from Portland sportcoat.

The guy living in FL telling the guy living in Oregon that he lives in a schit hole? Irony, much?



My Governor's name is Desantis.

What's yours?
Shiit show!
Originally Posted by Leanwolf
The "patriot" militias"are not the only ones ready to "rock & roll."

ANTIFA is training their members in firearms also.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154110/antifa-arming-trump-crackdown

Gonna be interesting one of these days, in my opinion.

L.W.

This article is a stilted lie from one end to the other. Very obviously written from the liberal perspective.
I love what they are doing, i think more states should follow in such path instead of wailing.
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What a ffucking shiithole!
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Fireball2


I live 250 miles from Portland sportcoat.

The guy living in FL telling the guy living in Oregon that he lives in a schit hole? Irony, much?



My Governor's name is Desantis.

What's yours?


Oregon doesn't have a governor Trav....

Ours thinks she is a Queen, like Queen Victoria or Queen Elizabeth 1st...

She dictates to the citizens, that she sees as her minions...the Disney Movie, "Despicable Me" is where she gets her political inspiration....

Correction:

Oregon isn't a Schitthole... its a nice place ran by Schittheads.. who rule over a bunch of Welfare Bums, Methhteads and a small minority of normal people...
Well said John.
Originally Posted by Remington6MM
Well said John.


grin

Thanks Bill!
How do those masked marauders get to the places they end up creating havoc? I'm going to bet they're bused in, right? Now, what would happen if a few of those buses parked a few blocks away from the "protest" got a close up and personal visit from a few ninja types with Molotov cocktails? A gallon of gasoline and a railroad flare tossed under a couple of buses would deprive the rabble rousers of their escape route, and once they're stranded, they can be picked off one by one by people dressed to resemble them- - - -same black clothes and face masks. Cripple a few of them, then fade away in the confusion. I'm sure there are a few patriots with the necessary military training to infiltrate, execute their mission, and then slip away without getting caught!
Jerry
With regard to militias, I hope Oregon has better ones than the Midwest. I went to some meetings back during the Clinton years, and a “field training exercise” with a buddy who was associating with one, and all I ever saw were absolute misfits. Mostly middle aged men with their bellies hanging over their belts, talking about fighting the government with their sks and whatever their ALICE pack could carry. The “FTX” was a disaster. I wondered if some of the guys were going to survive the 2.5 mile ruck march on a gravel road. Like I said, militias here never showed me anything but losers. Maybe elsewhere it is different. Regardless, ain’t gonna be no militias saving the day. We’ll have to do that ourselves if we want it done.
OR is a [bleep]-hole. Lived there for 35 years sure glad to be out of there!!!!!!
Colorado trying to catch up to Oregon. But if we can we are going to stop the democrats in Colorado.


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