If they want to curb gun violence, here are some "common sense" steps they can take immediately...

Ban all first-person shooter video games, and confiscate all existing ones.

Ban all high-capacity firearms from movies.

Fix the existing background check program by insuring all local police and psychiatric records be tied to the federal database.

Pass state exemption laws that standardize gun laws across all municipalities.

Revoke all onerous gun laws that are shown to be ineffective or unenforceable.

Rigorously enforce existing gun laws for use of guns in violent crimes, gun possession by felons, and illegal gun trafficking.

Make prison sentences for gun violence consecutive, not concurrent.

I like. miles

IF you are willing to ban things that other people enjoy, why shouldn't people want to ban what you enjoy?



Banning video games and hi cap magazines in movies? Really?

Start passing/enforcing anti-pornography laws too. First up, "PornoGrind" music. Take it all down!

Same. Same.

And I like Trump's idea of a speedy trial, but I'd modify it a bit to be followed by a public hanging at 12 noon in the town square..

I agree with Rocky, except that the left does not want gun reform. They want gun control. Which is when they have and control all firearms and you and I have and control nothing.

Additionally, if the antis think that signs actually work, how about if public places post "Armed Citizens Likely Present Here"

One, it would probably discourage crazies from picking that place as their shooting grounds, and

Two, would keep liberal snowflakes far away.

It's painfully obvious that "Gun Free Zone" signs have the polar opposite effect.

To much common sense, never happen, gun control advocates live in some sort of fantasy world and support and pass unrealistic gun laws

I bet they will go for that proposal.


Lotsa new laws and lotsa new bureaucracy to go with it right there!

How about felons denied during the background check go to prison for lying on the 4473? It happens now and they just walk out the door.

A little slow on take up this morning, Woodrow?

I'd vote for this, mebbe make the punishments a little more harsh for armed felonies. I got a lot of rope.

Nothing should be banned. Hypocritical don't you think?

You really think video games is the cause?

Mmmm the first two are first amendment violations and banning and confiscating video games will largely prove unenforceable though it isn't a bad idea in my mind but I don't play video games. Saying goodby to John Wicks and Jason Borne movies is; well it won't happen. I thought felons were prohibited from owning firearms now. Illegal gun trafficking has been a government thing in the recent past and will likely return when another liberal socialist democrat is elected to high office.

To my mind our culture is sick. We have lost our values and the more we ban religion and prayer in our schools and public places the more we push our offspring toward violence. We no longer teach the constitution or actual history in our schools. instead we teach social justice and identity politics, sexual depravity and abnormal behavior as the norm. What else should we expect?

Tipper Gore thought so.

If flight simulators are effective training aids for pilots, how are violent video games not effective training aids for murderers, especially when you factor in the age and maturity level of their users?

Ban this, ban that. Public schools, television, internet.





You know...I woulda been there to parent my kids more.....but I was working.

No new laws. We've got too many of them now. Life is dangerous. always has been, always will be. You are still far more likely to be killed in a car accident than a shooting in this Country. Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither liberty or safety.

Nobody wants to answer this question.

Banning crime and criminals would be more direct, and more effective. Problem lies, with doing it without violating someone who is innocent of the infraction.
How about having more than one life sentence equals a short drop into a wood chipper? Would be a lot more cost effective, than housing, feeding, and vet Bills for animals that will never be released.

we all know how to pull a trigger, its not like these guys are effective at it, they just shoot and spray - the issue isn't capability, its intent

and banning video games is not the answer

It's training, desensitization, and normalization.

Oh! I know, pass a ban on killing people! Oops, maybe that's been covered already. I know sarcasm doesn't play well on the fire, but it does illustrate the uselessness of passing more laws.

Is ole Tipper still with us??


She could be your Banning Czar.

Out of all the stupid, hypocritical schitt California does, recinding mandatory sentences for using a gun while commiting a crime (because too many minorities were using guns to commit crimes), because the law was racist, had to be one of CA’s crowning gems.

Instead of banning, how about making firearm training mandatory in schools, and furnishing training to all who want it who can pass certain requirements and psychological checks? Part of the problem IMO is ignorance of weapons, and a little knowledge could go a long way in confronting the problem instead of blindly running away. Just another crazy idea from somebody who knows nothing.

To reply:

I'm not the one who first thought of banning anything. They opened that door. They also think nothing of ignoring one Bill of Rights Amendment, so why not another one? They are quite happy to propose confiscating guns, why not video games? These are THEIR ideas, let's use them.

Video games are (as suggested above by another) desensitizing, suggestive of how to handle frustrations, or downright training for mass shootings. They already ban lots of things from video games and movies; this is nothing new, either.

I saw this on FB of all places..

“How many more shooting will it take, innocent people being killed, before gun owners will agree to turn in their guns?”

“I don’t know, how many more innocent women must be raped, until you agree to cut off your dick?”

😁😁

One more I should have included up top:

All media should agree to never publish the name or details about the shooter. Never allow somebody to think he'll be "famous" for such an act. Let them be anonymous.

Tipper is still with us. I dont think you want someone in an open marriage leading your moral outrage coalition. That's just me, though.

No, I do not believe they do.

I do not think they believe any of their bullschit. It is simply rhetoric to accomplish the end result which is disarmament of the American people.

People can not use blue helmets for targets, if they own no guns.

Read all the posts, can't say I disagree with much. Video games are very violent, do they make people act out their fantasy world? I don't know. One thing I do know is that history has shown us that Socialists will do anything to further their cause Socialism, total control of the population and the assets of the population. Eventual communism. Look at who advocates these forms of enslavement , to people who are guaranteed freedom by their constitution. It is that simple, who is in this country right now advocating upheaval and change to socialism and you have the people responsible for the atrocities of mass shooting. They roar and scream about the " guns" but it's people who were influenced by the left that did the acts and atrocities to achieve their goals. Seems simple to me not really sure why it isn't obvious to others. MB

Good response.

I had a flight simulator game. Played it for years. An A-10 Tank killer, if I recall correctly. Never did try to become a pilot. Damnedest thing, I guess some of us just can't be programmed. Oh well, next theory?

Agree .

How would children turn out if they could watch violent porn for hours and hours anytime they wanted for many many years - nothing barred - rape - beastiality - s & m - gay ?
Make it like a video game where they could assume rolls in the video's - kidnap little boys/girls - do horrible things to whole families show them liking being sexually tortured ??

Those kids would turn out just fine right - none would have any deviant behavior whatsoever would they ?
Nope - no way could all those hours of watching such things have any bearing on a young mind could it . . . .........

You also left out in the case of murder, mandatory death penalty, one appeal. If lost, execution within 24 hours.
Paul B.

your logic is incredible .

NO ON GUN CONTROL. It will not fix the problem. It will not control or stop the shootings we have. Why? Guns are a tool not a problem. The shooter is the problem. The deep state is the problem. Satan is the problem. We can not let them change the game plan just because they control the media. We do not need any gun control laws. It will all even out in time.

Ho-lee-Fu ck.

Tighten your tinfoil dude.

Have you ever used a flight simulator? You're comparing apples to lug nuts.

Equating a flight simulator to a video game is nuts. Few of us could afford or house one. The game give no vertigo, feedback, g forces ..... which a pilot needs.
I do believe there are people who would license journalism, limit speech to what they like, suspend the 5th

Like.

They would likely have to install those signs on all roads leading into our county...................even here in Kommifornia.

And the next county over, and the ones south to the Mexican border.

Geno

OK, how about Madden? Damn near every pro baller plays Madden.

This isn't about stable, responsible guys like Kellory, this is about the marginal ones in society, people who can't figure out which bathroom to use, etc.

Of course, when you ask crazy people if they thought they were crazy, you'll get nearly 100% "no".

The left really wants total gun confiscation. No guns no crime, sophism at its best. Then white delivery trucks, and, and, and...

Bottom line is that they don't even want the cops to have guns.

Tyrone gets it.

There are garmers who are just fine, well-adjusted, etcetera and would be so with or without video games. Same holds true for guns. It's the dweebs in the basement, the nurks who develop a Napoleon complex, who are entitled to be CEO of everything....those are the ones who ruin it for everyone by sucking the issue down to the lowest common denominator. Bottom line is, they don't become citizens as we think of the concept.

Look at the other threat on Whitegirl Bleed a Lot. How many of the perps there, the great unremarked and uncovered by the media, are what we would think of as upstanding citizens and human beings?

Sometimes I wonder if when you turn 18, you should actually have to take a citizenship test in order to be allowed to vote or exercise any affirmative rights. I suppose if you fail, you'd still have certain due process protections, and could take the test again in five years until you pass.

That was her job as second lady.

It was going to be worse as first lady.

You guys don't remember that?

Kennyd, they make flight simulators that run on your home computer. You're thinking of the full-blown cockpit simulators like the military and airlines use. But look up Microsoft Flight Simulator and you'll see what we mean. Here's a LINK

It's a game - and a trainer. Just like first-person shooter games are.

An unpopular message. See my signature line.

What about Airsoft? Paintball? Firearms competitions?

MMA?

The top echelon I agree and I doubt that includes many in congress, the masses haven't a clue

How about this....

Fix the existing background check program by insuring all local police and psychiatric records be tied to the federal database.

Pass state exemption laws that standardize gun laws across all municipalities.

Revoke all onerous gun laws that are shown to be ineffective or unenforceable.

Rigorously enforce existing gun laws for use of guns in violent crimes, gun possession by felons, and illegal gun trafficking.

Make prison sentences for gun violence consecutive, not concurrent.

Re-institute the death penalty with no insanity defense.

Rebuild the mental health system.

The "maturity level" of lots of gun owners is nothing to brag about.
If you need proof, just read many of the posts on this site.

Any changes to existing gun laws must include the following -

1. Nationwide concealed carry - one permit good in all states.

2. Re-opening the machine gun registry.

3. No increase in the age to buy long guns unless coupled to an increase in the voting age.

We NEVER back down and we NEVER give in. That's my stance.

Oh, and FBI or whatever letter agency - if you're listening you can GFY. I'm a citizen - not a subject.

Obviously more "murder training".

I'll agree it may be a piece,of the problem...but really isn't it like the same thinking as taking my guns because some crazy guy went on a shooting spree...
There should be an age limit yes...
It's back to the parents...I never let my kids watch inappropriate movies and games...as those kids are parents and forbid those games..also the grandkids don't get free range TV

My fantasy is better (I think anyway)

ENFORCE the 2nd amendment as written. (Highest law of the Land)

NO limits on it at all for anyone not convicted of a violent crime. No back ground checks (less taxes spent here) Just a HUGH percentage of armed citizens at all places and at all times so criminal would get weeded out prettry fast and those that have records of such behavior would simply get shot in their first crimes so a "record" (Less taxes spent here) would not be very relevant.


Give all citizens a 2% break on their federal taxes when they complete a realistic combat shooting course with the handgun of their choice, and give an additional 1% break when they complete the rifle course. Having a huge "security force" instead of paying a few "professionals" to be in place (most of the time not being where they'd need to be) is far more effective and would cost nothing additional to the tax payers, so a small break to provide the security for themselves is appropriate instead of taking tax monies to pay people to do it for them. (Remember Browards Cowards???)

Restart government armories as was done through the WW2 years making ammo, so the current use of all purchases being made through civilian companies or sub-contractors is no longer the sole way of acquiring ammo for the government. When such arsenals are again in use, send stocks of ammo in 22 LR, 9MM, 45 ACP, 223 and 308 to states and counties, so the issue ammo is available to the civilian population. Any civilian who can lawfully own a firearm can shoot qualification courses with issue ammo, and any one that can shoot a score of 90% or higher in a stress-course will be given a 2% break in their state and county taxes. For a score of 90%+ in a simple target course they shooter gets a 1% break. Fewer cops are then needed to the security of the free states, so again tax money can be reassigned.

Small arms to me made available to all qualified citizens at the same cost as the Army and Navy pay for them.

Ammo is free for each rifle and handgun purchased up to 400 rounds a year. All additional ammo available at the same cost to the citizens as it is to the government the citizens are supposed to own. Government of today seems to believe they own the citizens. That's backwards And cops and politicians are NOT to be a protected class or a superior class. They are to be under the citizens, never over them.

Arm everyone until you have a specific LAWFUL reason to disarm individuals but NEVER disarm classes of people. The right of the PEOPLE (that doesn't say government workers and no one else) to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall NOT be infringed.

Correct dictionary definitions of the words and phrases , as used by the founding fathers at the time of the adoption of the "Bill of Rights".


A well ______________________________(successful or effective)
regulated _____________________________(accurate and properly functioning)
Militia______________________________( Every able bodied man between the ages of 17 and 60 who has not been adjudicated mentally ill or convicted of a capital or infamous crime, who has at least 2 front teeth and a trigger finger.)

being necessary________________________( Vital and indispensable)
to the security__________________________(Freedom from risk or danger; safety)
of a free______________________________( Not imprisoned or enslaved; being at liberty. Not controlled by obligation or the will of another
State,__________________________________(the condition or circumstances of a person or thing, a sovereign political power or community, the territory of such a community)

the right _______________________________(a freedom or power that is morally or legally due to a citizen. God Given. Not a privilege which can be revoked, but a condition that can not be lawfully taken away for any reason by another, and can only be surrendered by the holder for the cause of free will, as a sacrifice. A citizen can be deprived of rights criminally by act of infringement by another citizens or official, which would not constitute a waver of rights, but such acts are the very essence of base vulgarity and crime. The state of liberty therefore can be surrendered, the citizen stepping out from under the protection of law, and in fact giving the rights up, but the act of attempting to deprive another of a right or set of rights is unlawful in every instance. )

of the people__________________________( the body politic of the nation. Individual person. All the common men women and children ,all and in singular. (The same context as used in the 1st, 2nd, 4th 5th 9th and 10th amendments and implied in the 6th 7th and 8th)*

to keep ______________________________(To retain personal possession, have a supply of, or to maintain for use or service.)
and bear ______________________________(To carry from one place to another; transport at will, unrestrained .)
Arms________________________________ (weapons that can be man packed by 6 men or fewer. In times of open conflict any instrument or instrumentality used in fighting in a military action.
shall not be infringed.____________________(To transgress, violate, defeat, invalidate or encroach on someone or something in any way, shape, form or manor.

The leftist politics of today are all about two things:

1. Find or invent and magnify some threat. Then get yourself elected to protect the masses from it. When I was a teenager, one of the imagined social threats was gangs armed with switchblade knives. And that got us a bunch of silly anti-switchblade laws. About the same time, it was the coming ice age. Now it's gun violence. You can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, and that is sufficient to get people elected.

2. Stoke anger, resentment, and discontent, pitting one group against another. Raising the tension makes it easier to get people who are afraid of firearms to vote for gun control.

The first thing we need to realize is that the more armed, responsible people that we have, the safer we are. Our country has 17,250 homicides of all types per year. We also have 2,350,000 defensive gun uses. That means that for every homicide of any type, there are 136 incidents where a citizen protected themselves by drawing a gun. The first rule of gun safety is to have a gun.

Blaming firearms for our social problems is nothing more than a way of transferring guilt to an inanimate object, to avoid taking a hard look at the things we should really be working on, such as healing the anger caused in order to deliberately raise tensions.

Start calling violence what it is: race violence, rage violence, theft motivated violence or whatever. Why is it gun violence? Or fist violence? Or lumber violence?

I say, make sure the prohibited person list is up to date and complete. The military has been very lax about getting its information entered. Some states are pretty diligent about keeping their entries up to date (Utah being one), and others are very lax. Get everyone who is prohibited on the list, including illegal aliens. Then create a safe harbor law, such that if you sell a firearm in an in-state face to face deal, and it's used in a crime, you can't be sued or prosecuted as long as you checked the database before the sale. With that, people will voluntarily do background checks before doing face to face sales.

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Denton, you've been reading Alinsky and the Democratic Playbook again, haven't you.