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I realize a good many blacks were brought over here as slaves, but those people are long dead now. Their descendants have often been treated unfairly, but many are on the welfare train now, never to get off. Do we owe them anything? Isn’t it enough to be in the land of opportunity? They are certainly better off here than in Africa! How do you feel about reparations?
Enough is enough
The debt has been paid!
Id like to get my check.
Take your pick: a one-time check OR the ability to be on welfare.
I'm 100% in favor of it. We need to address the debt owed.

Here is how I propose it

Establish the average net worth of every African American in this country

then compare them to the average net worth of their counter part in Africa

we'll pay the difference.

debt paid

I believe we should be getting them the money they would have earned as an African living in Africa, paying whatever it is over the standard of living they have in America - minus their net worth as an American of course.

I want the African American community in this country to know that I fully support any lost wages they missed out on living in Africa.
Originally Posted by KFWA
I'm 100% in favor of it. We need to address the debt owed.

Here is how I propose it

Establish the average net worth of every African American in this country

then compare them to the average net worth of their counter part in Africa

we'll pay the difference.

debt paid

I'm 100% behind getting them the money they would have earned as an African living in Africa, over and above the standard of living they have in America.



That’s a fair way to figure it!!!
Fug'em!
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Take your pick: a one-time check OR the ability to be on welfare.


Or a free plane ticket back.



P
Freedman’s Bureau already took care of reparations.
Originally Posted by hanco
Originally Posted by KFWA
I'm 100% in favor of it. We need to address the debt owed.

Here is how I propose it

Establish the average net worth of every African American in this country

then compare them to the average net worth of their counter part in Africa

we'll pay the difference.

debt paid

I'm 100% behind getting them the money they would have earned as an African living in Africa, over and above the standard of living they have in America.



That’s a fair way to figure it!!!



its the least we can do for 'em
We owe them nothing. Zippo. Zilch.

They are Americans, born in America, the land of opportunity. The term African American is BS! We are all Americans!
We brought them over against their will, then we should send them back. That's reparations enough as far as I'm concerned.
Get a job or go back......your choice
Maybe the ones PAYING the reparations should be the descendants of the ones that SOLD them in the first place.
Hmmm, now let me see, let me bring my favorite shop hammer along, then ask me for something I never took, or you never had taken from you!
Originally Posted by Rooster7
We owe them nothing. Zippo. Zilch.

They are Americans, born in America, the land of opportunity. The term African American is BS! We are all Americans!


That's right Rooster, if anything they're American Africans, if they don't believe they have it made here, they can go spend 30 days in the African bush with their kin folk, IF they make it back here alive, they'll be kissing the ground on their way to the "EMPLOYMENT" office!
Most of them are getting reparation payments on the first of every month, that's more than enough.
I am in favor of paying out reparations. From that sum, blacks can pay me and others like me whose ancestors fought to "free the slaves" during the Civil War what those blacks feel their freedom is worth. I had three ancestors who fought for the North of which one lost a leg. That should be worth a premium and those who lost ancestors should be entitled to a larger premium. The amount of contributions should be public knowledge.

The funds can come from whomever first enslaved and sold the blacks that came to this country. It should also be open to those who feel guilty over the issue. Names and amounts should be public to "shame" the others who have not contributed.

Once monies are paid out, any and all laws, rules, statutes, programs, regulations, etc will be eliminated and all will be judged on the same scale.
I'm just waiting for my turn as a garden variety straight white man. Won't be long now until the damages pile up and I can file my claim.
I think white people need compensation for bringing them here and allowing them to enjoy the freedom and standard of living provided by the white people who faught and died to build the most free and successful society on earth. We white people have done nothing but pay and suffer for our generosity. Black People’s indenture even provided the stalking horse that allowed the red republicans to destroy much of our freedom. Where’s the repatriations for the death of hundreds of thousands of white people to end their servitude ? As a white person I’m the one owed reparations from black people.
Give each adult black that can prove slave lineage, 50K and send em back to Africa with the condition they and their offspring have to stay there.
Give those that cannot prove lineage 25K under same conditions.
Negro fatigue is a real thing.
Originally Posted by hanco
I realize a good many blacks were brought over here as slaves, but those people are long dead now. Their descendants have often been treated unfairly, but many are on the welfare train now, never to get off. Do we owe them anything? Isn’t it enough to be in the land of opportunity? They are certainly better off here than in Africa! How do you feel about reparations?

Yes, they should be quite happy for what happened, as it landed them here rather than some [bleep]-hole country in Africa. Secondly, since Johnson, there's been trillions of dollars in transfers from, for the most part White Americans, to Black Americans in the form of all kinds of aid and programs, hiring and education preferences, etc., etc.. Then again, we've been forced to pay in terms of the tremendous cost (money and suffering) of maintaining amongst us a population that's responsible for crime dozens of times out of proportion to their numbers. They should be paying us reparations.
They get nothing...
The papers and TV refuse to tell the truth about how bad some folks are acting.
Fatigue should have set in 20 yrs ago.
Originally Posted by hookeye
Give each adult black that can prove slave lineage, 50K and send em back to Africa with the condition they and their offspring have to stay there.
Give those that cannot prove lineage 25K under same conditions.

Right. Any reparations has to be tied to surrendering citizenship and arrangement for citizenship in the African country of their choice.
If Congress was to approve of such scheme, they had better make an exclusion in the federal income tax for those of us whose people were not in this country at the time.

My people came to America around 1930 so leave me out of it.

We's be innocent! smile
It would be a huge stimulus to the economy because whatever cash paid out would be converted to bling in about 15 minutes. I would want to own all the Nike stock I could get my hands on.....all the GM stock (Cadillac) I could get my hands on. Oh and gold.....gimme some of that too. Weed stocks? You Betcha! Hell just buy everything! I could, in dollar terms at least, make more money off black people than my slave owning ancestors.
Many poor African Americans need help. Giving them money is the last thing they need though.
LBJ's 'Great Society' was more than enough.
Originally Posted by smokepole
I'm just waiting for my turn as a garden variety straight white man. Won't be long now until the damages pile up and I can file my claim.


Get in line......at the back of course.

I would be in front of you!
I don't owe them a thing .they need to cut off welfare and make them work for a living than bleeding the country dry .you dont work you don't eat. I an tired of this you owe me crap

I have two thoughts:

1) I will gladly pay reparations to anyone I held as a slave. Fair is fair.
2) It's been 150ish years, in that time, especially the latest generation or 2, they have had the exact same opportunity as any other American. Public education, public protection, scholarship programs, social programs etc. So what are we repaying them for?
40 acres and a mule?
We are still paying. It's called Welfare
Hey, here's an idea. Why don't we make all blacks slaves for ten years and then pay them?

That way they will all qualify for reparations and none will be left out.

I call dibs on Halle Berry!! smile






Dear, whomever may be monitoring this site,
This is my feeble attempt at humor and not what I truly want.


Well, maybe the Halle Berry part... smile
What we owe the black community is an end to the welfare state and the utter defeat of the democrat plantation.

If the dems ever get reparations passed, a lot of white people will be identifying as black.

I think I already feel it coming on......just to get my tax money back.
Originally Posted by RJY66
It would be a huge stimulus to the economy because whatever cash paid out would be converted to bling in about 15 minutes. I would want to own all the Nike stock I could get my hands on.....all the GM stock (Cadillac) I could get my hands on. Oh and gold.....gimme some of that too. Weed stocks? You Betcha! Hell just buy everything! I could, in dollar terms at least, make more money off black people than my slave owning ancestors.


Don't forget tire and after market automotive rim manufacturers. Never thought I see places where you could rent tires and rims.
I’m thinking if I was black and living in Africa during the time of slavery. Even with out knowing my children and grandchildren would live in the Greatest country the world has ever known, I would have caught the boat to the US. Getting out of Africa at anytime has to be a step up. Hasbeen
They should be given what millions and millions across the earth would love to have.



A shot of the American Dream.


Whoops, they have it.


Posted this before,

In 1995 I became involved with an Irish immigrant family.
Dad, Mom, 16 year old son. 3 days off the plane, legal documents, promise of a job for dad,
son had equivalent of diploma. 4 bags to their name (5th stolen at JFK, welcome to America!).

They had to pay living expenses for mom and boy, Dad would be taken care of
by the trucking company that offered him a job at the completion of company paid training.

They couldn't afford housing for the 6 weeks of training, so....
They all took all the jobs they could get, while living in a cheap motel.
In two months, they had an apartment and Dad was off to training.
In six months, the son was taking full time classes in a diesel mechanics course,
and working full time.
In about a year, they were in a house they had bought, with a loan.

This was in Harrisburg Pa.
Any idea how many reparations fans live in that area?
How many have "No Opportunity".


BULLSHITS
Originally Posted by KFWA
I'm 100% in favor of it. We need to address the debt owed.

Here is how I propose it

Establish the average net worth of every African American in this country

then compare them to the average net worth of their counter part in Africa

we'll pay the difference.

debt paid

I believe we should be getting them the money they would have earned as an African living in Africa, paying whatever it is over the standard of living they have in America - minus their net worth as an American of course.

I want the African American community in this country to know that I fully support any lost wages they missed out on living in Africa.



And they can pay the difference. Should take care of the National Debt.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
What we owe the black community is an end to the welfare state and the utter defeat of the democrat plantation.

^^^^^this^^^^^
I was raised with poor blacks in the 60's and 70's. We were all poor. The difference was some of us kept working to improve our lives and some decided to take the free ride. The free ride was a different form of slavery but almost the same.
Lots of whites took the free ride as well, we call them all the "free chit army". Soon there will be many more of them than folks that work for a living. Don't see that working out well.
So, negative on any more free chit. Get a job and work for it. Praise God you live in a country that still has some opportunity to find work and advance yourself.
I've never had me a slave, I owe em nuttin.
look far back enough, and you will see that everyone has been oppressed, and everyone has been the oppressor. When it comes to humans, there are no innocents.
The negros in Africa sold each other into slavery.
Yes, it would seem that if anyone owes them reparations it would be the tribe that captured them and sold them to the Arab slave traders. The rest was just legal commerce.
They are lucky they got out of Africa.
well, if blacks get the money, i want some of the money.
when my slavic ancestors worked 12hour plus days six days a week in the mines, and always owed to the company store, we were treated like ni..ers. fair is fair.
my wife picked cotton too in texas as a kid, poor white crackers. She needs some money too.
i'd like to have some reparations from under uncle lyndon johnson.

what a wonderful uncle he was, sending young men into certain death.

he was a democrat wasn't he? what do the demos want to do for reparation?
Originally Posted by hanco
I realize a good many blacks were brought over here as slaves, but those people are long dead now. Their descendants have often been treated unfairly, but many are on the welfare train now, never to get off. Do we owe them anything? Isn’t it enough to be in the land of opportunity? They are certainly better off here than in Africa! How do you feel about reparations?

I'm in favor of reparations.
Italy should pay me for enslaving my Irish ancestors.
Originally Posted by hanco
I realize a good many blacks were brought over here as slaves, but those people are long dead now. Their descendants have often been treated unfairly, but many are on the welfare train now, never to get off. Do we owe them anything? Isn’t it enough to be in the land of opportunity? They are certainly better off here than in Africa! How do you feel about reparations?


As Kaywoodie wisely spoke, the Freedmen's Bureau was 'reparations', as was LBJ's gibsmedat bullschitt and Obummer's free cellphones.

No French Bourbon left me a pile of gold and a castle in Ye Olde Europe, I'm descended from my ancestors who were serfs in the feudal system - which is slavery by another name. Throw that in the face of the next uppity, aggrieved black who cries oppression and multi-generational PTSD from their period as slaves in America. I have no sympathy for their seemingly eternal bitching and ever-present calls for 'reparations', they need to get over it.
Fug 'em!!
I've been paying reparations to lazy wannabe gangstas and baby momma's all my life.

Pretty sure my account's paid in full.
2 cases of Shîtz malt liquor bull and relinquish the right to vote.

Many would bite.
Originally Posted by slumlord
2 cases of Shîtz malt liquor bull and relinquish the right to vote.

Many would bite.



Yes sir - throw in a Costco uber-sized bag of pork rinds for the holdouts and that would net nearly 100%
when organized systems begin to break down due to lack of interest, or willingness to participate, then it's near time for katy to bar the door.
They are ridiculous bullshirt.
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How do you feel about reparations??


It's not going to solve anything......it just makes matters worse.....
I think every surviving former slave is owed reparations from all of the surviving former slave owners
I don't owe anything! No one owes me anything! S creew all of them!
Originally Posted by hanco
I realize a good many blacks were brought over here as slaves, but those people are long dead now. Their descendants have often been treated unfairly, but many are on the welfare train now, never to get off. Do we owe them anything? Isn’t it enough to be in the land of opportunity? They are certainly better off here than in Africa! How do you feel about reparations?


Originally Posted by 257heaven

If the dems ever get reparations passed, a lot of white people will be identifying as black.

I think I already feel it coming on......just to get my tax money back.


I literally found out on Monday that I'm 2% West African. Congo/Camaroon area.

"So", as the man said "I've got that going for me. Which is nice"
I want some. The United States Government stole all of my family's land to make Lake Sam Rayburn.
I want reparations for my great great grandad's life given to free the slaves. Otherwise, phuque em.
I am of German descent and my grandparents were treated like schiit during WWII. I don't feel like I've got anything owed to or coming to me. Why should African Americans think they're owed anything for something that happened 150-200 years ago or more???
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by smokepole
I'm just waiting for my turn as a garden variety straight white man. Won't be long now until the damages pile up and I can file my claim.


Get in line......at the back of course.

I would be in front of you!



Not in this man's Army!! Old white man privilege rules!
Originally Posted by keith_dunlap
Enough is enough
The debt has been paid!

Blacks should have to pay an extra crime tax to offset prison and police expenses.
Nobody on welfare should be able to vote.
A small bunch of bananas and a tree to climb in Africa. Send them back in a boat and that is reparations enough.
Originally Posted by Robert_White

Nobody on welfare should be able to vote.


Welfare should not exist in current format. Few things motivate like an empty belly.
I am in full support of generous reparation payments.

100% voluntary of course.
Any time they want to start paying me for my ancestors giving them a better life I am all for that.
They will just throw it away. On malt liquor and fried chicken. Can't help it.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by slumlord
2 cases of Shîtz malt liquor bull and relinquish the right to vote.

Many would bite.



Yes sir - throw in a Costco uber-sized bag of pork rinds for the holdouts and that would net nearly 100%


No it would not. I don' do ghetto, jive, welfare......... so nearly all the blacks I personally know are working stiffs. The adjustor that was up from TX looking over my rental fire of a week ago was black, seemed to really know his business, nice guy, and my dogs loved him.


Could have been the pork rinds I suppose....... smile
I start with the premise that I am 100% against the concept.

BUT

Pre conditions

Nothing to anyone on any government giveaway program
Recipient, upon receipt of fund move to the country of origin
They can suck on my pearly white man meat if they want something
The blacks were freed by the death of 360,222 American soldiers from the North and 258,000 American Soldiers from the South....debt PAID, the END.
Are there any blacks that were slaves still alive? Case closed, just another handout. We is entitled, my ass.
It's called welfare as a way of life.
We pay for it every april 15th far as I am concerned.
They shouldnt have the right to vote on welfare as a way of life.
And should be thankful to tax paying citizens they get what they fugging get to begin with.


Welfare as a way of life ceases to exist.
The Liberal Socialist Democrat party will cease to exist.
LBJ,s great society govt dependency programs for votes are suceeding.
They knew what the long term plan was gonna be for their agenda.

Thanks to all who voted for him in 64......

Fugging azzholes........
Originally Posted by hanco
I realize a good many blacks were brought over here as slaves, but those people are long dead now. Their descendants have often been treated unfairly, but many are on the welfare train now, never to get off. Do we owe them anything? Isn’t it enough to be in the land of opportunity? They are certainly better off here than in Africa! How do you feel about reparations?


Simple. I don't!
What about the dominant African tribes that rounded up the weaker tribes and sold them to slave traders? What are they on the hook for???
I am against it. Nobody alive had anything to do with it on either side.
Im holding up my middle finger and pointing at my pecker....
Originally Posted by Raspy
The blacks were freed by the death of 360,222 American soldiers from the North and 258,000 American Soldiers from the South....debt PAID, the END.

SAULTE !
The entire welfare system is corrupted from the bottom all the way to the top your tax money has people in federal funded agencies telling these people how to beat and stay on the system I see it every day and do work for the agencies
Welfare was only meant to run 6 months at the most.
Originally Posted by riflegunbuilder
They will just throw it away. On malt liquor and fried chicken. Can't help it.


Agreed, anyone's that's not smart enough to make money, certainly can't manage it, look at all the dummy lottery winners that somehow blow through hundreds of millions of dollars. crazy
I don't feel anything.. Maybe some recoil now and then.

kwg
Right after we give the NATIVE AMERICANS the country back. The "African Americans" can talk to them about it.
Did they consider the term "African American" would also apply to a white person from Africa?
Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV
Right after we give the NATIVE AMERICANS the country back. The "African Americans" can talk to them about it.
Did they consider the term "African American" would also apply to a white person from Africa?

The Native Americans took land from the Eskimos and the Pacific Samoans....so where does it began and where does it end?
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

I have two thoughts:

1) I will gladly pay reparations to anyone I held as a slave. Fair is fair.
2) It's been 150ish years, in that time, especially the latest generation or 2, they have had the exact same opportunity as any other American. Public education, public protection, scholarship programs, social programs etc. So what are we repaying them for?


My thoughts exactly!!!
As a card carrying indigene, no one owes me squat.
I am willing to pay into the tax coffers $1,000,000 for each slave I ever have owned.
But I want (only) $20 from each black person who makes a demand of me without ANY proof or ANY evidence of any personal guilt of slaving on my part.
Deal?

If you want to punish someone because of who their relatives were 180 to 500 years ago, lets start by demanding the same $1,000,000 paid into the coffers by the descendants of every black or Muslim slaver who ever was involved in the slave trade, from around 1400 to 1863.

Deal?



Keep in mind that the actual people doing the captures of the blacks in Africa were about 80% black and 20% Arab, with nearly NO whites at all,- for about 470 years of the 500 years in question, and in the 30 years where whites were active they still only comprised less then 1% of the slave hunters during the hay-day of the Atlantic Slave trade.
Fug 'em All!!
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