The amount of wood in a rick or face cord will depend on how long the pieces are so these are not the most accurate firewood measurements. The standard length for firewood is often 16″ and a rick or face cord in that case would be 1/3 cord. If the pieces were 24″ long a rick or face cord would be 1/2 cord.
It's a short bed extend cab, The wood is thrown in.
'You know a load is about a cord, $100".
It's a not half a dang cord, And I see it all the time.
There is a local POS who sells wood for buzz money, "Disabled".
He steals much of it, any tree that falls near a road, he sneaks in when the owners work and takes. In the spring or early summer you see his headlights pointing at the sky hauling his wood home.
Come fall, when he is delivering it to customers, his truck is still tail high.
A hundred a cord (face value) is cheap. 30 years ago we got 80 a cord local. Hickory and pecan 30 years ago carried to Dallas bbq restaurants was 250 a cord ( face value 4' by 16' by 16" or 18").
I like the idea of the maul going with the sale. I gave mine away 20 years ago! 😉
I've had numerous arguments with local woodcutters though, about what a cord is - and they were all wrong. If the truck shows up with wood in a loose pile - probably better send it away. An honest cord is hard to find....unless you cut it yourself.
Yes,there's tons of scammers or total dumb [bleep] that try to sell wood as a cord and it is far from it..A cord is 4X4X8 or 128 cf..An 8ft pickup bed filled to the rear and about cab high is about a cord...You can get a cord on a shortbed but you have to stack it really high and all the way to the bumper...And it takes 5-6 Yamaha Rhino loads to make a cord..haha
PS.....Since length isn't taken into account there's really no such thing as a rick of firewood.
Unless of course........you're married to your cousin.
That's the answer I was lookin' for.
WTF is a rick?
Is there a standard measurement.
Now that the good Padre Vinnie has informed me, it seems it might be a face cord? Maybe sorta? Depending on length?
If, as wageslave has pointed out, that is the case, then I have more than a "rick" there. Gonna fill one wall of my woodshed, which is 10' wide. The roof slopes some from about 7' to 6' and I use 6.5' as a working average height. The wood is cut 14" to better fit my stove. 14"/12"= 1.1666 ft. (16" will work in the stover but anything over, even slightly, has to go in COCKeyed. Which cuts down on filling it properly and is a pain.)
Therefor 10' x 6.5' x 1.16666' = 75.829 cu ft.
One cord =128 cu ft so 128/75.829 = 0.59 cord or thereabouts
Just like camper shells fit on the rails of a pickup, campers slide into a pickup, and camp trailers are towed by a pickup, let's agree that firewood is measured in cords, fractions thereof, and the infamous face cord.
Only time I ever heard the word "rick" used in regards to wood was someone talking about burning a "rick" of wood to make charcoal or some such.
Never was the word used regarding firewood where I came from..................always used cord, face cord ( and it better be 16" or I'm getting out the stubby pencil) and fractions of a cord.
An honest cord is hard to find....unless you cut it yourself.
No truer words were ever spoken. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm lucky......I started buying from a hard working young couple a few years ago that deliver the only true cords I can remember buying.
They have a two cord minimum......their truck bed is 8'X8' with 4'side racks......and they stack it high to allow for settlement during transport.
Last year they called and asked if I'd take a load of 14 inchers that someone canceled instead of my usual 16's. Naturally I said yes but out of curiosity I counted the stacks when they showed up......sure enough.....7 stacks 8' wide and 4" high.
Nice, sounds like a great couple to do business with.
My firewood guy is a good friend. Gives me a good price because he knows I get rounds and it's not as compact a cord. Got this years for $150 cord, juniper that's been cut for four years or so. Burns nice and clean now. Been seeing it listed in town for $170+. He usually gives me a bit of a break too, as he's always underestimating his cords.
I love to split wood with a maul. I have had this Monster Maul since 1983. It is a beast, weighs 14 pounds. I thought you could never top the Monster Maul but I had this Fiskars highly recommended two years ago, and I must say it is a damn good maul.
If a piece of wood wants to give me a hard time, I also have a Wood Grenade, and a German made Ochsenkopf aluminum splitting wedge, and a 10 pound hammer.
Nice, sounds like a great couple to do business with.
My firewood guy is a good friend. Gives me a good price because he knows I get rounds and it's not as compact a cord. Got this years for $150 cord, juniper that's been cut for four years or so. Burns nice and clean now. Been seeing it listed in town for $170+. He usually gives me a bit of a break too, as he's always underestimating his cords.
Geno
My experience is that a cord of rounds usually equates to about two ricks.
Nice, sounds like a great couple to do business with.
My firewood guy is a good friend. Gives me a good price because he knows I get rounds and it's not as compact a cord. Got this years for $150 cord, juniper that's been cut for four years or so. Burns nice and clean now. Been seeing it listed in town for $170+. He usually gives me a bit of a break too, as he's always underestimating his cords.
Geno
My experience is that a cord of rounds usually equates to about two ricks.
Yes,there's tons of scammers or total dumb [bleep] that try to sell wood as a cord and it is far from it..A cord is 4X4X8 or 128 cf..An 8ft pickup bed filled to the rear and about cab high is about a cord...You can get a cord on a shortbed but you have to stack it really high and all the way to the bumper...And it takes 5-6 Yamaha Rhino loads to make a cord..haha
I Load my 8' bed pretty full, stacked. To the top of the cab for three tiers a bit less for the last full one. That leaves about a foot for saws and such, wood piled around them.
When I have carefully stacked it to get a fair measure, curous.
About 75% of a cord.
A friend that doesn't haul far stacks a full tier on the tailgate. I believe he might actually get a full cord
I never heard of the term “ rick” before. I’d say a 1/3 of a cord would be accurate.
I think it's a really old term of wood measurement....when I was a kid the old guys talked wood in cords and ricks...not sure myself the actual measurements but I think there is an official measure..I really doesn't matter to me as I cut all my own and don't sell any...my wood is measured by the load I guess..
It's amazing to me how many dont know the measurements for a cord / Rick of wood . Anyone ed who says th hey can stack ac cord of wood in a pickup bed is a lying mofo
I know I can stack a third cord of mill ends in an '84 Subaru wagon with the back seats folded down. I measured the cubic footage. And had lots of mill ends to bring home. Set that thing right on the axle bumpers it did, but only a coupla mile drive home from the mill.
Yes,there's tons of scammers or total dumb [bleep] that try to sell wood as a cord and it is far from it..A cord is 4X4X8 or 128 cf..An 8ft pickup bed filled to the rear and about cab high is about a cord...You can get a cord on a shortbed but you have to stack it really high and all the way to the bumper...And it takes 5-6 Yamaha Rhino loads to make a cord..haha
Yes its fir, this wood is too large to be putting through the splitter so its split by hand. When the snow gets deep a woodcutter is limited to where he can access the bush, so in this case the wood is pretty big, normally its smaller and I run it through my splitter. I get 250 a cord, and its measured....I have two 1 ton 4x4's the other truck has a 10'x2'x7' wide box (dumping) so I always get over a cord on each truck. I love my competition, I love the ones who show up with the wood just thrown in and they say....its a cord....or they start high at the front of the truck and it tapers down at the back, lol, its mostly repeat business. Its really hard work and after 40 years on and off being a woodcutter I will retire being one, somebody's gotta do it
I have always gotten my own wood for as long as I have had wood stoves..The problem is,some of the guys that sell wood think those that buy it are just lazy and don't know chit about wood or how much is a real cord and to a point,it's true..
This is a Rick(my youngest son) loading the shortbed..
And this measured out to about one cord after we got home and stacked it..
When I turned 70 my son bought me a wood splitter..I hate the thing but it is easier on the back....I am not done getting wood yet but this is 6 cords measured and split..
If I had to choose to get rid of either the Rhino or the wood splitter,the wood splitter would be gone in a heart beat..This yamaha Rhino is a wood getter's dream in your golden years..Love this machine for haulin wood..
Heck of a load you have on the chevy, is that truck really small or is your boy really big?
He's really big... Good to have around on wood getting days...i think he's 6'4" and 260 not sure though but close.. The truck is a 2002 Chevy 2500 HD..
Glad you enjoy cutting your own. I like splitting it by hand, as I said, good exercise.
You need to get a set of air bags or overloads on that truck though
If my friend didn't sell it for such a good price, I'd consider getting a saw, chaps, oil, files, etc. Then get the permits for the BLM or NF land nearby. They're easy enough to get as they want the juniper out of there in many places. My friend gets his on private land that has cut a bunch of juniper for rehabbing the grasslands.
But, as I get it delivered, don't have to put miles and hard usage on my truck, don't have to buy more toys to cut it with, I'll just keep getting it from him until something changes. He needs the cash too, so I get a good deal and help keep him in groceries.
Probably will put up nearly 3 cords in the shed this year, there's some more, maybe a full cord of juniper, that will stay outdoors and get worked into the shed as that wood it used up. Mild winter last year, only got down near 0F a couple of times. Burned about 2.5 cords, maybe 3. Year before, it got down to -25F so I went through about 3.5 cords. Have some ponderosa pine out there too, but mostly use that for camping wood, as it creates more creosote in the chimney and doesn't heat as well as the juniper.
Got down near 40 last night, so it won't be much longer. I expect before the end of the month I'll start a fire.
$250 a cord, even Canadian, sounds like a good price up there. Heck of a nice way to make a living too, out in the woods and such, working for yourself instead of the "man".
I laugh at folks that call a small pick up load a cord. The math to figure it out, and the internet to get the dimensions, make it too easy for any half smart person to determine who's scammin' who.
Use my mahindra loader for wood now, drag everything to a staging area and saw it up into rounds.
I don't need to split anything below about 24" diameter. I can just roll the rounds off into the Heatmor and they 'dissolve'. I use a steel rail ramp so I dont have blow out a nut doing any lifting.
Since my 22 ton splitter went kaboom, I have been sawing the rounds lengthwise from the bark in. Made some nice white oak chunks.
I mostly cut red, white, burr oak, hickory.
Think I'm set for winter.
32" dbh hickory I had to quarter and cross section. Had some large white in this with it too.
My wood pile is gorging out the confines of the furnace shed. I keep bringing in more rounds and just dumping them.
Started a new shed roof to put additional wood in, been working on this last couple weeks. Finished up framing this morning inbetween sit down breaks messing with you dudes on the campfire.
I'll go order my metal in the morning, cut to fit. This will free up another bldg I have equipment in now. More wood, like money in the bank. I only have sweat equity in my wood. The family farm here is 200-\+ acres of hardwood uncut since the 1970s. I can cut lightning strikes and blow downs and not touch anything marketable
Can’t even give away wood around here. I bet we have 25 downed white oaks within an easy drive of a pickup or utv on our property. For the last two years spread the word it is free for the taking and no one wants it. When winter rolls around going to have some fantastic brush fires!
I got a pretty good guesser I think. Thought I'd have enough for one row on the wall.
When I took a break for dinner I had this much room left on the top of the first row of wood on the back wall.
Went back out to that big pile and had just enough left to fill it nearly full. I'll find some thinner ones to chunk up near the rafter and fill some smaller holes between splits too.
Managed to get a box of kindling split too. Wife is going to be happy about this when I go to AZ in October to get an elk. She doesn't like splitting wood or kindling. No pic of that, I took one but just looked at it and it's not even up to cell phone standards.
Now to go start splitting more. Preparedness rocks, eh?
Glad you enjoy cutting your own. I like splitting it by hand, as I said, good exercise.
You need to get a set of air bags or overloads on that truck though
I keep telling him that but he listens like all kids do...
I cut wood because I made my living logging and we have around 5-6 saws laying around the place..I like running a saw and falling tree's..The rest is like hunting,once the tree is down, the work starts..Packin/cuttin/loadin and splittin..But it gets me out of the house looking for game on every trip throwing down some cold beers to kill the pain, when I am done for the day..
A couple weeks a go I tore my right shoulder cuff throwing a big Dewalt air compressor in the back of my Rhino and my son is 2-3 cords shy of getting all his wood in..The wife is refusing to go with me to get more wood because of it, and the boy is working his tail off with not much time on his hands..I'm going for more wood period even if it's a Rhino load at a time..It's just what I do and have for many moons...I refuse to buy wood from one of these money grabbin youngsters trying to short people on firewood besides,I owe my son two cords on a deal we made..
As you mentioned,it ain't free..There's saws/chains/files/oil/gas/wedges and pickup gas to get there and back..I figure it cost me about $50 each trip not counting beer and food but pellets are through the roof and propane isn't far behind it,and heating with electricity from Avista is unbelievably high...So wood it is..
Around here if you hear "face cord" you're getting screwed. We that burn wood use more than a few "cord" a year. It is a way that the wood jockeys have used to scam the unknowing. Bring me a darn cord of wood or don't enter my yard. A cord is 4"x4"x8". A face cord is whatever they want to give you for their asking price. We like tamarack around here for heat and it usually comes in 12-20 cord loads in 8' lengths unless otherwise specified. $90ish/cord. The rest selling by the face are screwing you. Buyer be wear.
Getting firewood is my time, usually just me and the dog. I bring most of mine off the mountain with the Rhino[5-6 loads a day] on weekends in winter.
Like stated above I've got plenty of blowdowns and standing dead so it doesn't need to sit and dry for long after splitting. Still have 3-4 years worth of standing dead black locust on my land.
When I'm out cutting I scout for hunting and when I'm hunting I scout for firewood.
Getting firewood is my time, usually just me and the dog. I bring most of mine off the mountain with the Rhino[5-6 loads a day] on weekends in winter.
Like stated above I've got plenty of blowdowns and standing dead so it doesn't need to sit and dry for long after splitting. Still have 3-4 years worth of standing dead black locust on my land.
When I'm out cutting I scout for hunting and when I'm hunting I scout for firewood.
Always a smart idea. Look for arrowheads too, to show up slumlord on the better ones
That locust is pretty good wood, but sometimes a bear to split by hand.
having torn both shoulders, seriously torn, I feel your pain. Take care of that bad one when you can slow down for awhile. You'll thank me afterwards, and you'll thank the surgeon too if that's what's needed.
Same here Raeford, I make note of trees within a radius of my deer stands.
I'll come back on a Saturday while my neice's dipshït boyfriend is deer hunting and run saws balls to the wall, drag logging chains intentionally across the front bucket of the loader, 😄
Some municipalities are passing ordnances on persons with outdoor wood boilers like I have. They make too much smoke if you live in a subdivsion and try to operate one in your backyard.
I don't need to split anything below about 24" diameter. I can just roll the rounds off into the Heatmor and they 'dissolve'. I use a steel rail ramp so I dont have blow out a nut doing any lifting.
Would you happen to have a picture of your steel rail ramp? We're thinking of fabricating one for my son's place. His outdoor boiler will hold 5 foot logs, maybe even bigger, but the problem is lifting them and sliding in.
We were thinking of using conveyor belt rollers to roll the logs in.
Use my mahindra loader for wood now, drag everything to a staging area and saw it up into rounds.
I don't need to split anything below about 24" diameter. I can just roll the rounds off into the Heatmor and they 'dissolve'. I use a steel rail ramp so I dont have blow out a nut doing any lifting.
Since my 22 ton splitter went kaboom, I have been sawing the rounds lengthwise from the bark in. Made some nice white oak chunks.
I mostly cut red, white, burr oak, hickory.
Think I'm set for winter.
32" dbh hickory I had to quarter and cross section. Had some large white in this with it too.
Who is that azzhole looking dude in that bottom pic??? Fuggwad probably got zero experience running a saw I bet and probably just stood around offering " advice".....
That one of your cousin,s or BIL? They always help ya out you dont they????
People buy firewood????
Glad I left maine. Used ta have ta cut and split 8 or 10 tree lenght cords my father would have dumped in the yard beginning every august. Fugging bought it as stumpage from some scumball french mutha fugga,s that would go scavenge clear cuts. Schit was always jacked the fugg up...... Baby bro 1 yr behind me "scared" of running a saw. Mommy and daddy fell for that schitt..... Couldnt swing a maul worth a fugg either on purpose......IMO So I would saw it all up. Then his sole purpose was to sit on a butt log and stack a round on another for me to split. And he would help stack it Whooptefuggingdo god forbid if ya break a sweat todd.
And then throw in feeding a fugging wood boiler all the fugging time in the winter. Dear old dad had funds for his beer and smokes....... Didnt wants spend money on # 2 oil..... Usually get it all done in about 2 weeks at my pace. Always glad I got the fugg outta that state. Between wood and shoveling a gravel driveway( cheap azz dad).
Only thing that fugging state has as far as I'm concerned is deer , bear ,and moose hunting.
Dad bought a 20 tn log splitter and started paying a guy with a f 250 to plow the driveway when I joined the army.
And they all wonder why I never came home for my 1st 7 years after joining the army.
My days of slave labor were done. Dads log splitter took a schit after 2 yrs cause he had the mechanical aptitude of a high school cheerleader. Hahahaha!!!!! Fugging simple engine and hydro ram system....... And then dad went to the # 2 heating oil furnace full time. Musta cut into his beer and smoke budget big time. Poor thing........
My dad invented the 1st tv remote control!!!!!!! Took a 8 or 9 ft 1 inch hardwood dowel , cut a slot in one end to slide over the channel knob so he could turn it without leaving his recliner, hard for him to get it on when he was drunk so he duct taped it to the knob permanent after a couple of days. He was so proud of it.... Fugging 9 ft dowel attached to the TV laying on a angle to his chair 24/7...
Thank god I had my 2 uncles and my grandfather on the Morrison side of the family for role models in my life. Only thing I ever learned from my dad was he was lazy and a alcohloic that watched the boston red sox. All 3 hated my dad and could never figure out why their sister and his daughter married the bum.
Cutting and splitting wood brings no nostalgia or good time memories for me. This is what I think about firewood.....
Some municipalities are passing ordnances on persons with outdoor wood boilers like I have. They make too much smoke if you live in a subdivsion and try to operate one in your backyard.
Outdoor boilers have been an issue here also. I would like to get one, but I have multiple neighbors within 150 yards. No laws or rules against it, just decency. It's not right to infringe on others property. Fairly simple I think.
I do burn wood and some coal, it exits about 20 feet above ground level. Bad enough on heavy air days. Had some Pittsburgh seam coal for awhile. Great stuff, hot, burns well. Gassy and smokey though. No one complained, but I didn't get it again.
Plus, the darn stuff gassed so bad it blew my clean out door open, twice. Really shouldn't have used it in a house. Knew that when I bought it.
I almost talked myself into an outdoor burner when we built our house. Then a neighbor who has one suggested I skip buying one. He said do you really want to spend $12-15k to save $400-500 a year in natural gas costs and also have to feed it 24/7? Smart neighbor.
Except I don't have natural gas, unless I want spend $70 a ft for 1/4 mile worth of 2" steel main extension, an engineer's set of design plans, an easment, a 20ft bore and jack under the paved road, a service tap, and 280 ft of copper service line.
I don't need to split anything below about 24" diameter. I can just roll the rounds off into the Heatmor and they 'dissolve'. I use a steel rail ramp so I dont have blow out a nut doing any lifting.
Would you happen to have a picture of your steel rail ramp? We're thinking of fabricating one for my son's place. His outdoor boiler will hold 5 foot logs, maybe even bigger, but the problem is lifting them and sliding in.
We were thinking of using conveyor belt rollers to roll the logs in.
Except I don't have natural gas, unless I want spend $70 a ft for 1/4 mile worth of 2" steel main extension, an engineer's set of design plans, an easment, a 20ft bore and jack under the paved road, a service tap, and 280 ft of copper service line.
Wow! Why so much? My contractor only charged about $3k to install about 575 feet of line from the main road (where the gas line was) to our house. A day on the ditch digger was the hardest part and a few zig zags among the trees. But that was a little over 4 years ago.
Sometimes if you can rally your neighbors and get about 4-5 households to agree to take the service and post a $50 application fee, *sometimes* the gas co can either waive it, absorb it, or get some capitol grant projects money to cover the main ext part.
Problem is I don't have enough neighbors that want gas. Two new homes recently built went all electric. One was my cousin, half the family thinks that chit is voodoo. SMH
I would sure like to get nat gas eventually, I'm getting old. lol
I almost talked myself into an outdoor burner when we built our house. Then a neighbor who has one suggested I skip buying one. He said do you really want to spend $12-15k to save $400-500 a year in natural gas costs and also have to feed it 24/7? Smart neighbor.
Not a bad choice when you have heated floors and unlimited firewood.
$250 a cord, even Canadian, sounds like a good price up there. Heck of a nice way to make a living too, out in the woods and such, working for yourself instead of the "man".
I laugh at folks that call a small pick up load a cord. The math to figure it out, and the internet to get the dimensions, make it too easy for any half smart person to determine who's scammin' who.
Enjoy your woodcutting season.
Geno
Thanks, I think I will enjoy myself cutting wood like others here, I heat with wood too, its either that or electricity, we dont have gas here where I'm at. So it costs me nothing to heat the house with all the wood around here.
I figure the trick is to not get hurt, sounds simple but ....thats why I go for the splitter now, my elbows dont like using a maul and its hard on the knees too. I can only do 1 cord a day now...fall, drag out, buck, split, load, ....I used to do 2 cords when I was 25 years old, difference.. now at 56 there is no stress.
Reckon this is another regional thing. I'm fourth of 6 generations now in Idaho, and back to my great grandpa, and all of our contemporaries "rick" is a verb,..as in "rick up that load of wood,or "Today we're gonna rick the hay in the south pasture."
Guessing it is regional. I think Field Grade and I picked on some of the guys last year for sayin' stuff like "I split a rick of wood today". What the heck is a "rick"? A cord is 128 cu ft, forever and always. Easy to figure out, easy enough to measure. But a "rick" ????
Never heard your local usage, which would seem to mean "to put up" or "to stack" some material item....... That doesn't sound too far off of the only usage I had ever hear which was something along the lines of "We're going to burn a rick of wood to make charcoal", as in "burn a stack of wood".
Common usage isn't always common.....................in other areas.
Of course, where I live, and the way I say it................................is the RIGHT way.
My Grandpa (that I call Grandad) only went to the 4th grade, but my wife's, that I actually call "Grandpa" has a Masters from Stanford. They both used the above lexicon... Love this stuff!!!
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