While I like to poke the bear, I don't usually
troll in an intended offensive manner. Some,
ain't gonna like this.



Wrote this out, but didn't want to derail the Florida is Conquered thread.


Many locals moved to the South for work, especially construction. The
word was always that we were welcomed on jobs due to work ethic.
Personally witnessed this once.

They have been losing those jobs and businesses they started to Mexicans.


First it was Blacks, and they were hated.
Then Yankees, and they were hated.
Now, Mexicans....

Why can't Southerners do their own work?
And why do they hate the people that build their buildings,
pick their crops, feed them, and generally do their hard work.

Also, unions are despised in the South.
Is that because Unions are a way workers can demand more
from the master?


This popped in my head as a joke. But, as I wrote, it became
a serious question.

I'm not pointing fingers at individuals. Everyone is a man unto himself.
But, in a vague generality.

My big question is who has the intellectual depth to consider the premise,
And give an decent answer. To a somewhat loaded question.



And I already know what an a-holes I am.

I am hurt.


Really hurt.


You didn't like my Floriduh derail??

Well, I thought this might blow the train up.
I was going to take it down, until I saw you had posted.
I know it won't be a discussion, just ticked off bitching.

Got six mexicans at my house now doing some waterproofing. I certainly didn't want to do it.

What a conundrum. Too many here don't want to pay Union rates yet don't want Messicans on the job either. And then want the best price they can get. How does anything get done or do they just look the other way, for now?
Good question Dillon. Got your flame suit on?

Nothing wrong with being from anywhere. It is how one conducts himself.

Apparently, the Southern white man (at least those on 24hrcryfire) is too busy - cleaning his "assault rifle" and preparing for his heroship/martyrdom in the reengagement of the civil war that continues to rage on his mind (only) all of his life - clean his pool, waterproof his house, etc.

The groids got uppity and left the plantations when they figured out they could breed like rabbits and trade their votes for food, booze, and public housing. Now it's the wetbacks' turn to do the same thing. Damyankees- - - - -they've been the real problem for a couple of hundred years. Closing the hunting season in 1865 was a mistake!
Jerry

Do you not find the question and statement above to be somewhat contradictory?

Could be we have experience with carpet baggers, don’t like our taxes going to provide social services for illegal aliens, and generally dislike people who move here and tell us how we should be doing things differently

Absolutely when cherry picked and reconstructed to
contradict each other.

In the text, one was a reference to a group standing together
to make gains for the group.


The other was a reference to judging individuals by their groups,
instead of by their own merits and deficiencies.


But, you knew that.


Fake news?

^This, said much more politely that the reply I was typing.

Thought you wnated to blow the train up.

Not to sound unkind, but that strikes me as a damn fatuous post.

Which makes it perfect for this site.

Interesting thread - of course, there won't be any civil discussion on the topic.

Excellent point, Richard. The fact that the first is more important than the second to so many people makes me reluctant to visit many interesting parts of the country.

worked as a union worker for 45 years ,some things the union did help,but i seen some very poor workers that kept their jobs only because they belonged to the union too that should have been fired.the other part is politics the unions all wanted us to vote demorats, and that was just stupid who wanted Obama or Hilihag ? best thing that ever happen in politics was Donald Trump elected as President by working people of America. now just watch how the Union will want Union workers to vote against President Trump .we need that southern border up and when that`s done start on the north border next its time to save our way of life .so we need President Trump for another 4 great years, not what the Union wants workers to vote demorats !

I dont understand the question.

However... we have folks from south of the border working the big ranches and farms up here. Aipiaries too.

Universally good guys and hard workers.

Ok, another go at your premise considering unions. The South has historically embraced individuality. The Revolutionary War did not have much support on either side south of Virginia- until the Brits committed war crimes at Waxhaws. This enraged locals and led to the Patriot victory at King’s Mountain and the successive battles that led to independence. The Civil War was also in response to an overreaching Federal government. Unions are sen as an extension of outside interference. The majority want to represent themselves and view unions as corrupt and/or socialistic.

Folks in the South have always done their own work.
Folks from the North come down here to escape the winters, high taxes, etc., and find work here.
Unions aren't despised, we just know they aren't needed.

5sdad,
Don't be reluctant to visit the South.
The people that make the most noise are in the minority.
As a truck driver, I covered the lower 48 and part of Canada.
I found most people in most places to be decent, and they
treated me well. Respect is usually returned.

That said, there are obviously small areas to be avoided
for safety same. No matter if you are in Des Moines, or Dallas.

News flash,
Unions are disliked by employers most everywhere, & especially the north. So that question should be removed from the original query.

Blacks & Mexicans are another subject,,,,, possibly 2 other subjects.

We need to put the white trash and blacks to work. Cut off the welfare cshit. Make it illegal to hire Meskins. Then they won’t come here!

economic growth is a magnet. it attracts people wanting to "better" themselves.

look anywhere that you see growth, and look at the "diversity" present.

and who can blame them? young, old, with families needing food.

Actually damyankees (yes, that's one word) are welcome in the south- - - - - -visit often, spend lots of money, keep your opinions to yourself, go home. If you're planning on staying forever, keep moving until you find that long, skinny piece of land sticking out into the ocean- - - -it's called the damyankee reservation. Stay forever, spend lots of money, then die. Nobody in the real south really cares what "Florida People" say or do.
Jerry

Around here, it's dairy workers. We have nearly a half million holsteins within 75 miles of here. I have no idea how many of the Mexicans are legal but without them the dairies would be in serious trouble. There's no way they could find nearly enough whites who would do that kind of work and work those hours.

If you need a roof done, I'll recommend a crew of Mexicans.

once the farm workers discover the possibilities in and near the big cities, it's difficult to keep them down on the farm.

and therein lies the problem. people migrate to america for farm jobs, and then get lured away to the big cities for service jobs.

and their wives and children often qualify for gov't subsistence benefits. and that costs the taxpayers real money.

so, who is subsidizing who? i don't know the answer, and that's why i'm asking.

The vast majority of southerners I live and work around generally despise socialism. Free markets and socialism don't jive period. Unions and illegal labor derail free markets. The old argument that white folks won't pick (insert your favorite veggie here) is a farce. Supply and demand works. We have all the labor we need in this country without unions or illegal labor. Everything has a price.

Southerners understand and love what freedom means. They don't hate the groups you mentioned. They hate the institutions that subsidize them, since it leads to the detriment of the white, god fearing, southern conservative.

Interesting sig line btw...

There isn’t a group more tied to “home” than southerners. Call it old ways, call it culture. Lee fought for the south because Virgina succeeded. He loved Virginia. I’d argue the love runs deeper down here because an attack on the culture is taken personally.

Move a Yankee into the neighborhood and they’ll try to take it over. That’s why I-95 has plenty of north bound lanes.

I do all my own work, so do all the men in my extended family, and all my closest friends, who are almost all military vets.
There were two murders in my high school and a lot of unrest drugs and violence due to blacks.
My dad taught me states rights and Robert E Lee from age 5
Foreigners took over the town I grew up in.

Should I go on?

Old grudges die hard, try praising Cromwell in a Dublin pub.

Roofing job. Hiring a mexican. But he was born here in my hometown, friend of the fam, has great references too.

And he aint the cheapest.

Good work. Good guy

Good enough.

I agree. If we as a section of "our" country stood up and started getting rid of carpet baggers we could become great again. Screw the damned Yankees that think that can teach us