Good!

there might be some justice in this world afterall.

Well ..... BYE BYE




Now ..... what about that weasely little prick Lt. Col. Vindman?

He was fired for going directly to the WH and suggesting to Trump that he could intervene. Last I heard Trump is now saying he will stay out of the matter. Of course he will probably change his mind 3 more times in the next 24 hours.



https://www.axios.com/eddie-gallagh...bf2b6a7-dba2-418a-ae8a-78c89a79f441.html

Sayonara douchebag.

MAGA Trump is kicking ass.

Meanwhile, the real douchbag gets to keep his little badge. This is setting a bad precedence for the military. I say this as a retired Army 1SG who earned my Ranger tab. We tend to refer to them as dirtbags and they can make it into all sorts of places. Only experience with the Navy was 12 days spent on the USS Eisenhower steaming down to Haiti. In the Army we have a few values that we try hard to uphold, one being integrity. I know my view is not popular here and I can care less, but we have service members all over the world trying to do the right thing and when dirtbags get away with doing the wrong thing, it sends a message.

I don't see how killing someone who needs killing is doing the wrong thing.
Posing with a corpse might be bad form but war is hell and that seems pretty minor to me

You're ignorant of facts of this story.

But don't allow me to prevent you from continuing to make a fool of yourself.

Sounds like you forgot about what it means to be an American. Sorry to see that.

Please fill me in on the truth.

Seems to me most of the dirtbags are hanging around the Pentagon these days, as Osama fired every officer that had any integrity. There's more values being upheld at a strip club than there is in the Pentagon.

So, the way I read it was that Spencer proposed that they still do the tribunal to consider taking his Trident, but that the fix would be in and he’d keep it.

Seems to me that would create even more of a stain on the Navy than Trump stepping in. Because, in the current climate, you KNOW someone would leak it and it would just be more stupid [bleep] they’d be trying to in on Trump.

This coming from a member of the Demonrat/Commie/homo/pedophile Party.

That's rich.LOL

I don't knoiw the whole story but it has to be more than posing with a corpse. That's nothing

Its sure is funny when the beta males like Leroy and SA Charlie chime about military matters.

Stick to your ez bake oven and Rachel madow milquetoast Leroy lol

We pay these guys to kill the enemy, I damn sure don’t care if they pose for trophy pictures as long as they kill the enemy.

As the father of a young Marine I don’t want him to hesitate because he’s worried about the politically correct assessment of war before he can return fire. I’d join him in pissing on their dead corpses.....

Unfortunately even retired 1st Sgt have been brainwashed by the politically correct training that’s apparently replaced or reduced the time once spent learning how to kill. We’re reaping what has been sown since “Tailhook”.

It was the Obama administration. Disrespecting a Muslim. Might make the Jihadists all angry at us Infidels for not showing proper respect to the dead bastards.

You're conveniently dismissing the Pacific war trophies that the Army 'procured' as they rolled across the Pacific in WWII - skulls, heads stuck on tanks, etc. Right?? Are you going to call those men nasty tree-cat names??

In Vietnam, I read of Green Berets with ear necklaces

Its war, those guys are warriors

This. I'm paying them guys to kill people and break things. A picture confirming that every so often is OK with me.

kwg

I agree. Vindman should return his purple-ish heart. He healed fine from his paper cut.

You kind of lose credibility when you refer to a Seal's trident as a "little badge".

Eight tours, 2 bronze stars, and up for the silver star is setting a bad precedence for the military? I don't think making Navy Seal has much in common with "steaming down to Haiti" on the USS Eisenhower either.

The way I understood it (could be wrong) some of his guys didn't like his tactics for drawing out the worst and most sly ISIS fighters. Very dangerous business dealing with very bad people including the informants they relied on.

It's like a Rambo movie, use them up and then turn on them? Thank God we have brave men like this fighting for our side.

Yep another outs himself,

The word from the CIC:





And the new Navy Secretary will be Ken Braithwaite, the current Ambassador to Norway.

Meanwhile, the outgoing Navy Secretary, Richard Spencer claims that he 'cannot in good conscience' obey the order to stop Gallagher's case going before the review board, because he believes it 'violates the sacred oath' he took, and that he disagrees with Trump on the 'key principle of good order and discipline'.

And the Ghurkas are saying......what????

That’s bush league.

Thought the same thing when i read that comment. Would like to see the 1SG call it that in person to a SEAL! If that clown wouldve read up on the matter, he would have known that he was asked to resign by the Secretary of Defense, not the POTUS due to going behind the SecDefs back without his knowledge and making a proposal directly to the white house that he could basically "fix" the review so Gallagher would be allowed to keep his Trident.

But what if he had gotten an infection from his sinuses?

Ranger tab so easy even females can earn it... when you went through ranger school where did you do desert phase at?

You can say that again!



A captured young fighter was being treated by a medic. According to two SEAL witnesses, Gallagher said over the radio "he's mine" and walked up to the medic and prisoner, and without saying a word killed the prisoner by stabbing him repeatedly with his hunting knife.

Another accusation was that Gallagher's sniper work during his 2017 deployment became indiscriminate, reckless, and bloodthirsty. He allegedly fired his rifle far more frequently than other snipers; according to testimony, the other snipers in the platoon did not consider him a good sniper, and he took "random shots" into buildings. Other snipers said they witnessed Gallagher taking at least two militarily pointless shots, shooting and killing an unarmed old man in a white robe as well as a young girl walking with other girls. Gallagher also was reportedly known for indiscriminately spraying neighborhoods with rockets and machine gun fire with no known enemy force in the region.

Convention with respect to the Laws and Customs of War on Land
This voluminous convention contains the laws to be used in all wars on land between signatories. It specifies the treatment of prisoners of war, includes the provisions of the Geneva Convention of 1864 for the treatment of the wounded, and forbids the use of poisons, the killing of enemy combatants who have surrendered, looting of a town or place, and the attack or bombardment of undefended towns or habitations. Inhabitants of occupied territories may not be forced into military service against their own country and collective punishment is forbidden. The section was ratified by all major powers mentioned above.

I believe President Trump has had plans to fire this POS for some time.



This and the fact that he names a replacement just minutes after Spencer was fired tells me that this was not a sperm of the moment thing.

Vindman doesn't seem the type to EVER have been in combat. REMF.

His superior needs to have a frank discussion with him. It needs to be made clear that his career has deadended and there will be no further promotions. I'm not sure how such a weasely prick made it to LTC in any army, must be an Obama recruit. If he has not filed his retirement papers by year end, his next posting is counting penguin crap in Antartica. For sure his clearances are immediately revoked. I read one report where his superior verbally reprimanded him after the superior confirmed Vindman's subordinate's complaints of Vindman behaving overseas in a fashion that was very unbecoming of an Officer. IMO.

If the Ukraine needs him as Defence Minister, he may as well take it.

I don't believe the Sec Def can 'fire' a service Secretary. He can ask for a resignation, and in most cases the person asked will comply, but only the President can 'fire' a service Secretary.

And yet he was cleared of all this at his trial.

Hit and miss. The hit's will almost exclusively have Trump involved.

"....kind of............"?? I'd say, "totally".. But that's just me..




Exactly..

I guess you failed to understand the point that particular point I was making.

His team reported him, and for a team to report one of their own is very telling. He even threated them after they reported on the crap he was doing. That badge has been revoked from well over 100 seals in the past, and should have been in this case.

Posing with dead enemies is nothing new. It has been done since forever and it is frowned upon but it is not specifically addressed in the UCMJ. In my view it is a discretionary action on a CO's part and at worst handled via NJP, but certainly not at a General Courts Martial. The prosecutors were obviously throwing as much s hit against the bulkead and hoping something would stick, only the President came along and told them to scrape it off. I believe it was a good call on his part after YEARS of over-restrictive Rules Of Engagement (ROE) which were very dangerous for our guys.

What you so conveniently left out of your post was the removal of the Trident pins all occurred during the Obama administration.

The "deep state's" Manchurian/muslim/homosexual /Candidate,who followed the orders of his handlers,did everything possible to destroy our military.

Since 2011, 154 SEAL Tridents or Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman (SWCC) pins have been revoked for various reasons.

This was posted by another member and was originally written in the Military News.
Trump stepped in after more than 50 members of Congress called for urgent attention to the case, and two letters sent by two groups of Congressmen were sent to the U.S. Navy demanding action.

The Gallagher case has ripped off layers of bandages that were covering up a broken system intended for serving justice; this system seemingly does the opposite and is, in fact, set up to crush people.

Eddie Gallagher’s case exposes the politics of the military justice system, and how an accused man who wants nothing more than to clear his name, or at least have a fair opportunity to do so, must now jump through legal and bureaucratic hoops, and fight leaks to the media in order to get a fair shake.

The outcome of his case is expected to unravel the fabric of our nation’s SEAL teams. At the very least, sources have agreed it would expose a massive cultural gap in how young service members are approaching war as something glamorous, sexy and even “easy” rather than what it is: bloody, raw and brutal, requiring real-life decisions that have staggering consequences.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/04/this-is-navy-seal-eddie-gallaghers-story/

Most excellent post, rte...

Thank you sir.I had help from sportingspecialist's original post.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-eddie-gallagher-of-his-tri#Post14300689

I'm sorry but Vindman, as opposed to Chief Gallagher, needs to meet the UCMJ for lying and directly disobeying the orders of those above him. He is nothing but a scumbag and needs to have his retirement taken away. He also needs to spend some time in Leavenworth.

He even admitted to GIVING ADVICE to a foreign national about policies regarding the US. Why he hasn't been charged yet is a fuggin' mystery to me...

This is from my previous post:

A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat "star witness" Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman "really talked up" President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he "verbally reprimanded" Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. "Do not let the uniform fool you," Hickman wrote. "He is a political activist in uniform."

His series of tweets, soon after Vindman offered his anti-Trump impeachment testimony to Rep. Adam Schiff's panel, were confirmed and corroborated. The story Heine put together from the tweets ran like this:

He was apologetic of American culture, laughed about Americans not being educated or worldly, & really talked up Obama & globalism to the point of (sic) uncomfortable.

He would speak w/the Russian Soldiers & laugh as if at the expense of the US personnel. It was so uncomfortable & unprofessional, one of the GS [civil service]employees came & told me everything above. I walked over & sat w/in earshot of Vindman, & sure enough, all was confirmed.

One comment truly struck me as odd, & it was w/respect to American's falsely thinking they're exceptional, when he said, "He [Obama] is working on that now." And he said it w/a snide 'I know a secret' look on his face. I honestly don't know what it meant, it just sounded like an odd thing to say.

Regardless, after hearing him bash America a few times in front of subordinates, Russians, & GS Employees, as well as, hearing an earful about globalization, Obama's plan, etc., I'd had enough. I tapped him on the shoulder & asked him to step outside. At that point I verbally reprimanded him for his actions, & I'll leave it at that, so as not to be unprofessional myself.


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...93054/another-communist-within-the-ranks

Excellent post.

Thank you for raising a son who honors our nation with his service.

Rush has just discussed this incident concerning Gallagher.

The military command has become a cesspool of politically correct people,who climb the ladder on the backs of real warriors.

The first emasculation came under clinton after the Tailhook Witch Hunt. The PC culture really did most of it's damage then, We recovered a bit after 9/11, but the bottom fell out after 09 with obama.

Good Lord! those are facts man!

Facts don't mean anything to a scum sucking Liberal Schit head.

rte nailed it. The Gallagher fiasco is just a symptom of of the rot in the command structure. The colleges that produce the same idiots we rail against on the fire on a daily basis, also produced the officers and civilian employees that run the military. Political Correctness and social engineering are just one more "ticket punch" on the map to promotion. The whole self serving bureaucracy is set up to feed on itself. David Hackworth made it clear long ago,,,,, if we had been listening. Promotion and perks are rewarded to the best system gamers, not brave competent leaders with personal integrity. That Lion of the Mekong Delta, John Kerry and his purple heart for a band aid on his finger boo boo amply demonstrates my point. Makes me wonder if the atrocities of Lt Wm Calley are the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

So you would be proud of your son had he killed someone that was already incapacitated and probably near death? I am not brainwashed, just read some of the things he was accused of. Posing with corpses? I could care less, but the other stuff was pretty troubling. Yes he was cleared of the worse, but the fact that his team reported his behavior is enough for me. I refuse to join in on this "group think" that you all are members of. I would rather stick to my upbringings and convictions than compromise them here for the sake of popularity on the fire.

Did you happen to look any deeper at his 'team'?

He was found NOT GUILTY of those charges.....

You accuse posters here of "group think" while actively advocating the "group think" of Gallagher's team... can you say "two-faced?"

I wonder which one I would rather be in a firefight with, Gallagher or Scoony? That's a tough one. Gallagher who is a killer or Scoony with all his morals? It is a close one but I will choose Gallagher. I want someone that would be willing to kill the enemy, with no hesitation, just as I would. A dead enemy is no longer capable of inflicting injury or death. Period.

Jim

He can only say it out of one face at a time.

Jim

But they make great props for selfies.

WTF happened to the America where people just did their job and got on with it without acting like some ahole dancing in the endzone after a touchdown?

51 years ago I was in a unit that took part in the peaceful hamlet program. I have had pictures taken with dead enemy. I wish I hadn't.

About 5 years after getting back and 1 rainy day I was setting in our deer camp with a WWII vet, after a while he told me about killing German prisoners. He said he wished he hadn't.

It took me several days to write this so no comments please.

There I fixed it for you ass-hole.LOL

Another Soros troll who just recently joined.

How much does Soros pay you to lie about your supposed moral authority?

I think you may be right.

Scoony and Goosey have a similar ring to their names.

One thing i noticed missing in 1SG Ranger scoony post mentioning his military quals was any mention of a Combat Infantry Badge.....that might explain his misguided thoughts on the matter. As far as soneone mentioning regreting killing of enemy combatants, think im in the majority of those who take no joy in it being done or having to do it, its part of doing a job that needed done!

I will also add that when you are dealing with an enemy so savage that they will openly behead or burn CIVILIAN prisoners on camera and then distribute the video on the net, any pussified ROEs need thrown out the window!!

They left out a disgrace to the human race.
Paul B.

BTW Scoony - NOT gulty means NOT GUILTY in the eyes of the law. Translation- in the eyes of the law DIDN'T DO IT! Get over it.

I'm going to ruffle some feathers, so sorry in advance to any Ramgers. I'm a little unsure why the US ARMY considers Rangers special forces. Any Canadian infantryman is trained to roughly the same standards, yet they are not considered SF. Yes the Canadian will take another course to be jump rated, but the other training is on par. We currently have only one SF group which JTF2, roughly equivalent to Delta. I suppose a Canadian Combat Engineer (Sapper) like my cousin could be termed SF. He is jump qualified and dive qualified. All of our military has to do more with less, for instance, JTF2 does not have Little Birds. The twin brother to the Combat Engineer was trained as a sniper. If he was compromised in Afghanistan, he pretty much had to run to safety, no helicopters on standby, more likely Americans would rescue him. That is embarrassing, but no government since at least the 1960s has properly funded the military. We are a small nation (35million) living in the second largest country in the world.

All of that to say that Thank God for the USA. Without them I'd be speaking Russian and waiting in breadlines. I just struggle to think of Rangers as SF. More like well trained infantry. Anything above Ranger is world-class elite.

Send some infantry to Camp Wainwright in Alberta, they'll get trained up.

Ranger REMF wasn't there, nor were any of the other Obama-appointed puzzies who pressured Gallagher's team to turn on him. They need to STFU!

Omit camp and fort wainwright then you might be onto something...

Interesting that you ignore the fact that he was found innocent and focus on what he was accused of. It appears that your "upbringings and convictions" don't include respect for the Constitution or the rights of all Americans. I'm proud to be part of the "group think" that we have a presumption of innocence in this country and are all protected by the Constitution.

Guy did 8 tours in the nastiest places on earth, fighting one of the most vicious enemys on the planet. Maybe his team thought he needed to be pulled back. The mental wear and tear on this guy had to be more than most could even comprehend. He was exonerated of all crimes, he faught like hell for our country. Let the man retire with the honor. He deserves it.

One doesn't have to look no further than this current impeachment inquiry to figure that out.

75th are the US militaries elite Infantry strategic level shock force , but here [photo] we have Ranger sniper working with 160th SOAR Afghanistan
on objectives including AVI...a task they share with Delta.

Whereas Green Berets will be assigned to a CIF Company to undergo the Special Forces Advanced Reconnaissance, Target Analysis,
and Exploitation Techniques Course ,(SFARTAETC). Rangers also do that, but do it in-house.
Rangers train their privates to do the same breaching, room clearing, and sensitive site exploitation techniques that SF reserves
for senior NCOs.

very briefly, SFARTAETC teaches skills including small unit tactics / close quarters combat techniques in urban environments.;
mechanical and explosive breaching, precise target acquisition, high stress tactical shooting methods/techniques, etc.

I don't recall anybody laying into the hides of these men for what they did in the Pacific Theater:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Pacific+war+trophies&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

Eddie Gallagher is what history calls a warrior. 1Sgt Scooby doo is most likely a pencil pusher remf.

In talking with my USMC infantry Nam vet old man about this he brought out a good point i didnt really think about. That is IF Gallagher was doing all the "bad" things mentioned in some stories before the incident, the blame for the incident which he was tried for lays as much on his superiors as much as Gallagher. If they recognized he was gradually going "rogue", they should have pulled him back from front line ops, maybe sent him back stateside for some "cooling off".

Agreed!!!

Going to make a slight correction here.

Any Green Beret who goes to a CIF will have gone to SFAERTAETC and maybe SFSC being in a CIF is not a requirement to attend those courses. The CIF guys did have priority when I was in. I knew a quite few guys with that course under that belt and no time in a CIF.

For those that know what happens when one has a bunch of folks that just want to slide by,they know that they can gang up on one causing their problems.

I would look at their book and see what they have been noted to do or not have done.

My Son has had 9 deployments in places ever since he signed up for Navy SO.

He has known folks that outranked him that were not worth their salt.

A lot were sent to that area from Fleet and did not have the mind set to do anything unconventional in warfare.
In layman's terms they sucked at their jobs.

What Trump did was what was needed to keep the whole team's heart in the game.

It makes one do better to think that they will not be sought out for things that happen in wartime.


Folks that do not understand this make me sick.

Rabid dogs rarely change course............

FIXT

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This and the fact that he names a replacement just minutes after Spencer was fired tells me that this was not a !!! sperm !!!of the moment thing.[/quote]
Uh, Freudian slip?

Well, as if we didnt know what you're focused on, Gooshit.

Hey, it's a mark above an 8 pt buck afaic.

He shoulda stuck a few strips of fried bacon in his mouth and sent a pic to Obama and crew.

Let's hang Gallegher when we hang Biden for fingering Seal Team 6.

Because then they were actually encouraged to win.