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"Climate change hoax COLLAPSES as new science finds human activity has virtually zero impact on global temperatures"

Interesting, another nail in the coffin.

https://www.3ccorp.net/2020/01/12/c...ly-zero-impact-on-global-temperatures-2/



911 "Cloud Cover" study-

https://globalnews.ca/news/2934513/...r-an-unlikely-climate-change-experiment/

"The effect during the three days that flights were grounded was strongest in populated regions where air traffic was normally densest. The increase in range came to about two degrees Celsius.

Other studies have tended to back up the research. In 2011, British scientists wrote that an air raid in May 1944 involving over 1,400 aircraft measurably lowered daytime temperatures in England."
The irony of that article is that it relies on least-squares curve fitting, as does the vast majority of the climate alarmist "research".

The truth of the matter is that linear curve fitting is an exceedingly poor method of analysis for questions of thermodynamics. Systems with many variables that interact with each other in non-linear fashion is far better suited for analysis through partial differential equations. These are what real scientists use to predict the weather. And anyone with a modicum of mathematical training will recognize that climate is nothing more or less than the integral of weather.

There are many variables that go into weather forecasting. Notably absent is the concentration of CO2, even though it varies significantly over time and space. The premise that the integral of a function is dominated by a factor not significant in the function itself is laughable from a mathematical point of view.

The best that real scientists can say about the question of whether or not CO2 is the dominant driving factor in long-term climate is "We don't know." The evidence that it the dominant factor is laughable. The evidence that it is insignificant is strong. But in reality we just don't know. It is hard to do experiments on a global scale, which is what the scientific method requires to establish proof.

That said, I applaud all efforts to expose the climate alarmists for the frauds that they are.
The climate change cult will never give up their religion.
Climate change is a scare tactic the democrats have invented as a way to hopefully seize energy. Unlimited finances, and government control are their only concerns.
Originally Posted by TwoEyedJack
And anyone with a modicum of mathematical training will recognize that climate is nothing more or less than the integral of weather.




?????

So, no matter what, the earth is going to get hotter and hotter as time passes, what with that integral evaluating as a greater and greater number as time passes? I am assuming you're evaluating any one aspect of "weather" over time, right?

Otherwise, call 1/1/2020 year 0. Keep temperature (T) constant. The integral of T evaluated at time = x is going to be doubled at 2x. So, the climate integral for temperature for year 1/1/2022 is double that of 1/1/2021?

I'm kinda thinking that your integral needs to be divided by units of time. However my integral math is G-O-N-E gone, I'm not a climate scientist, and I don't have the foggiest when I last stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Stop with these false news conspiracies. Listen to scientists. It's 2020 now. Even Exxon-Mobil admits climate change is real and human-caused.

I bet you denier guys believe in little green men, the hollow earth theory and "chemtrails", too.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/news-articles/solar-minimum-is-coming

https://www.livescience.com/61716-sun-cooling-global-warming.html
"The last grand-minimum event — a disruption of the sun's 11-year cycle of variable sunspot activity — happened in the mid-17th century. Known as the Maunder Minimum, it occurred between 1645 and 1715, during a longer span of time when parts of the world became so cold that the period was called the Little Ice Age, which lasted from about 1300 to 1850."

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/17jan_solcon
"The intensity of the Sun varies along with the 11-year sunspot cycle. When sunspots are numerous the solar constant is high (about 1367 W/m2); when sunspots are scarce the value is low (about 1365 W/m2). Eleven years isn't the only "beat," however. The solar constant can fluctuate by ~0.1% over days and weeks as sunspots grow and dissipate. The solar constant also drifts by 0.2% to 0.6% over many centuries, according to scientists who study tree rings.
These small changes can affect Earth in a big way. For example, between 1645 and 1715 (a period astronomers call the "Maunder Minimum") the sunspot cycle stopped; the face of the Sun was nearly blank for 70 years. At the same time Europe was hit by an extraordinary cold spell: the Thames River in London froze, glaciers advanced in the Alps, and northern sea ice increased. An earlier centuries-long surge in solar activity (inferred from studies of tree rings) had the opposite effect: Vikings were able to settle the thawed-out coast of Greenland in the 980s, and even grow enough wheat there to export the surplus to Scandinavia."

Climate change is real....always has been...always will be.
It's never really been stable (static). Visualize a pendulum and you'll get the idea.
It doesn't make any difference what we do. Global temps and weather will always be in flux. The earth has been both FAR hotter and colder in the past than it is now and will be again in the future.
Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
Originally Posted by TwoEyedJack
And anyone with a modicum of mathematical training will recognize that climate is nothing more or less than the integral of weather.




?????

So, no matter what, the earth is going to get hotter and hotter as time passes, what with that integral evaluating as a greater and greater number as time passes? I am assuming you're evaluating any one aspect of "weather" over time, right?

Otherwise, call 1/1/2020 year 0. Keep temperature (T) constant. The integral of T evaluated at time = x is going to be doubled at 2x. So, the climate integral for temperature for year 1/1/2022 is double that of 1/1/2021?

I'm kinda thinking that your integral needs to be divided by units of time. However my integral math is G-O-N-E gone, I'm not a climate scientist, and I don't have the foggiest when I last stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.



Exactly what the line I was going down... and it gets worse fast.
Of course it's all man made. The climate had been constant up until the last 40 years or so. (Never mind that changes in that short a time span are considered weather).
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Of course it's all man made. The climate had been constant up until the last 40 years or so. (Never mind that changes in that short a time span are considered weather).


???

Not sure what you have for references, but that is not even close to correct...
We really do need a sarcasm icon wink

They're still digging up dino fossils in the state but not around here, the glaciers pushed down too much overburden.
OoooPPPPssss
Perhaps we could all avoid farting and the climate would, once again, become stable.🙄
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Perhaps we could all avoid farting and the climate would, once again, become stable.🙄

My grandmother from the old country would say if you hold it in it will build up and choke your heart.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake


Great video, and great website. Glad he got some additional funding so he could keep up the good work.

Fascinating that in a 2013 poll of the American Meteorological Society, only 37% of professional forecasters agreed that global warning was both happening and "mostly human."
Originally Posted by Goosey
Stop with these false news conspiracies. Listen to scientists. It's 2020 now. Even Exxon-Mobil admits climate change is real and human-caused.

I bet you denier guys believe in little green men, the hollow earth theory and "chemtrails", too.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/


What caused the last ice age to end? Certainly wasn't humans, and given the amount of glacial melting in a relatively short time, it was likely more severe than anything we are seeing now.
The climate change group will never disappear because our young people are being indoctrinated in school. It's being pounded into their heads and becomes as permanent as a sex drive. When they can vote, we're in trouble.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The climate change group will never disappear because our young people are being indoctrinated in school. It's being pounded into their heads and becomes as permanent as a sex drive. When they can vote, we're in trouble.

This is the truth. All this climate change crap is just that, fueled by the elite power brokers pushing for a one world/equal wealth (or lack thereof) for all. Except for those in power, of course. Climate has been changing for 4.3 billion years. We aren't going to change it with our feeble efforts. As to rising sea levels, maybe we, or our great great great great great great grandchildren will see the inland sea cover the great plains again, as it did for many millions of years.
Even that constant "consensus" claim is complete BS. That "97% of scientists" number they keep bandying about is a total lie. It came about this way: About a decade ago, at a climate conference, almost half the people there said that they thought humans affect climate. At another conference five years later, fewer of them still thought that. How many fewer? About 97% OF THE ORIGINAL LESS THAN HALF.

So it isn't 97% of all climate scientists at all. It's well under half of climatologists who think humans affect climate. And even that is only an opinion, not fact.
Louder! LOUDER!

You aren't convincing yourselves. YELL LOUDER and maybe you will finally start to believe yourself...

Not that that will change the facts.

smile
You mean the fact that not a single climate catastrophe prediction over the past four decades has been right?

Or the fact that every rise in global temperature readings over that same period came from "adjusted" instrument readings? And not once were the numbers ever adjusted down?

Those facts?
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Louder! LOUDER!

You aren't convincing yourselves. YELL LOUDER and maybe you will finally start to believe yourself...

Not that that will change the facts.

smile



Hey Leroy, can you or goosey tell us what the high and low temps(instrument read of course) for any day during the month of July, 1776? How about any month during that year? How about high and low temps for any day from 1800 to 2.5 billion years BP?

Could you enlighten us on the ice extant(sq. miles measured) on either pole for any month before 1964?

Could you compare the CO2 levels now vs those from 200 million years ago...the difference in animal and plant life?

Climate change exists. It always has and it always will. The question is whether or not human activity and, in this case, activity related to technology, contributes to the direction of climate change. In all likelyhood, it does not.
One can not be quite so certain with regards to the effects of human activity in general. Human population is growing exponentially and this population has a direct effect on the ecology of specific areas. There can be little doubt that human meddling in ecologies can have a far reaching effect. When people are burning vast tracts of forest to make room for themselves, that affects more than teir little area. When an African tribe overgrazes an area to the point that it turns into desert, that affects more than that little area.
So, when I fire up the old D-4 to plow the driveway (something which will have to happen today if the snow stops falling), I might be contributing some carbon as the exhaust blows black but I'm not actually affecting the global envirment as much as Jose Silva does when he lights a bunch of Brazilian forest on fire.
The thing is, humans do things which are detrimental to the global environment all the time even when they KNOW the effect is detrimental and make excuses for it. Then, rather than address any real issue, politicians come up with stupid crap like carbon credits and their followers gather round them, bleating joyfully, then go right ahead and do whatever stupid thing it is they do, whether it be overgrazing, overbreeding, or building and heating the big house, and pat themselves on the back for supporting a big lie.
The effects of human activity are real enough but they are seldom immediate or quickly catastrophic. Instead, they are insidious and gradual and, by the time they are evident, momentum makes change difficult. In addition, any corrective action, providing cause and effect can be determined, will be equally gradual.
Of one thing I am certain; it is unlikely little Greta Thunberg (sp?) has a freakin' clue. The one positive thing she can do the help the global environment is, she should not reproduce. In fact, we would probably be better off if her parents had embraced birth control as the cornerstone of their relationship. GD
Kind of like the ozone hole. It was only discovered in '82. There's no way of knowing if it existed at any time in history before that or how big it might have been. NASA talks about it 'recovering' when it's shrinking, but recovering to what? It's not a recovery if it used to be LARGER than what it is now.
Not unreasonable to allow that dumping all that fossil carbon into the air is gonna have SOME effect on climate in the short term.

Which is a long way from presuming anthropogenic global warming to be a fact.
Originally Posted by Goosey
Stop with these false news conspiracies. Listen to scientists. It's 2020 now. Even Exxon-Mobil admits climate change is real and human-caused.

I bet you denier guys believe in little green men, the hollow earth theory and "chemtrails", too.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/


If we can't trust the .govs, who can we trust?
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
You mean the fact that not a single climate catastrophe prediction over the past four decades has been right?

Or the fact that every rise in global temperature readings over that same period came from "adjusted" instrument readings? And not once were the numbers ever adjusted down?

Those facts?



It goes back even further. Sixty years ago, in my elementary school Weekly Reader, climate scientists were predicting a new ice age. That scared me to death, now, not so much.

What scares me now is the very predictable people who are promoting it, and their redistributionist solutions.


Greta Thunberg is a prime example of leftist child abuse, no different than ISIS fighters hiding amongst the kids.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Kind of like the ozone hole. It was only discovered in '82. There's no way of knowing if it existed at any time in history before that or how big it might have been. NASA talks about it 'recovering' when it's shrinking, but recovering to what? It's not a recovery if it used to be LARGER than what it is now.


Kind of a poor analogy to climate change.

We kjow what caused the ozone depletion. CFCs caused it. When we stopped making CFCs, the ozone hole recovered.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Not unreasonable to allow that dumping all that fossil carbon into the air is gonna have SOME effect on climate in the short term.

Which is a long way from presuming anthropogenic global warming to be a fact.


Prezactly. The lab science tells us there will be effects of CO2, methane and other gases on the atmosphere. The applied scientists and their models have not been able to quantify those effects.

Yes, they have predictions, no, those predictions have not been consistently correct. The system is still too complex to model. That's not to say there is no effect of human activity, but it's also not to say the effect of human activity is significant compared to other variables in the system.

Once you accept that human activity is just one variable, the whole "scientific consensus" thing is a house of cards.
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Kind of like the ozone hole. It was only discovered in '82. There's no way of knowing if it existed at any time in history before that or how big it might have been. NASA talks about it 'recovering' when it's shrinking, but recovering to what? It's not a recovery if it used to be LARGER than what it is now.


Kind of a poor analogy to climate change.

We kjow what caused the ozone depletion. CFCs caused it. When we stopped making CFCs, the ozone hole recovered.



Actually, it's a GREAT analogy. Science found a problem, Science figured out what caused it. Politics and .gov fixed it. Pretty damn simple actually.

It is an interesting problem solving model to follow.
Climate change is real. Been going on since life evolved on our planet.

Anthropomorphic climate change is nothing but social engineering writ large. Politicians trying to use government muscle to take your money and give it to others.
Most of the commentariat poses the question incorrectly. A better, and unusual formulation of the question is this: Is the amount of change that we currently see large enough that it can be distinguished from random variation?

The rule of interpretation is that it is futile to seek an identifiable cause for some change, if the change can easily be explained by normal random variation.

Or, if you prefer: Once we account for changes in the sun's activity, eccentricity in Earth's orbit, and such, is the variation that is left over enough to be distinguishable from normal random variation? I've never seen anything that satisfies me that it is.

There was a time that I was doing a lot of digging and historical analysis of temperature data, since I don't trust other people's analysis very much. But now, I can't even do that since the data is being systematically distorted to suit an agenda.
I wonder if the Australian Fires or Taal Volcano erupts are incorporated in the man-made emissions issue?

The fires alone have freed up 400 megatons from the earth to the atmosphere and the volcano has sent steam and ash up to 55,000 feet.

The fires alone will account for 3/4 of Australia's greenhouse gas emissions for 2019 and the fire season has a couple months to go.
Originally Posted by reivertom
The climate change cult will never give up their grants and donations.



There, fixed it for you
Originally Posted by nighthawk
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They're still digging up dino fossils in the state but not around here, the glaciers pushed down too much overburden.

Excellent...can I borrow this?
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