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Sorta related; when Richard III made his ill-starred grab at the Monarchy that famously ended at Bosworth in 1485, a prime motivator had been the fact that his older brother King Edward IV had almost certainly been fathered as a result of their mom’s affair with a Welsh archer. Hence Edward was a bastard and his sons in the tower were continuations of that line, a fact certain to cause chaos in those already chaotic times.

I don’t believe Harry is gonna do 23 and Me anytime soon, I do know he reportedly aquitted himself quite well in Afghanistan which is a form of Nobility that actually means something.

So now he’s cut himself adrift and paid back public funds

https://pagesix.com/2020/01/18/harry-and-meghan-abdicate-royal-titles-public-funds/

I have no idea if he married poorly or not, if he did he won’t be the first. He did get a son out of the deal, which changes everything.





As far as I can see - although the doings of the Brit royals is way out of my field of vision - Harry was courageous in battle and now is courageous in life. He married a woman who seems to be lovely in all respects, and just as brave. The couple has caught no end of grief by bigots everywhere. They've told the world to bugger off, to use a Brit expression, and I say more power to them. Fare thee well, H&M.
I wish everyone well.
Good Post....its his life, his choice and he did 'serve Queen and Country." The problem comes in IF the tax payers feel he is still on the Dole...after Brexit, they could easily do a Monarchyexit. smile
On one of these Royalty threads I post the picture of Washington crossing the Delaware.
Good luck!
Good luck to them. But Megan, irrespective of background, is a SJW. That rarely ends well for the husband.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
On one of these Royalty threads I post the picture of Washington crossing the Delaware.


It is commonly accepted that George Washington owed his life at Brandywine to the merciful forebearance of the son of one Lord Pitfour, also nephew of the 5th Lord Elibank, said son and nephew AKA Major Patrick Ferguson.

All a bunch of fuggin’ Brits I know and no friend to us Irish, but I gotta give credit where credit is due 😎
They are getting a big dose of the real world not some PC liberal lala land..Harry as royalty is an idiot to have married her
Originally Posted by 700LH
They are getting a big dose of the real world not some PC liberal lala land..
I don't believe that for a minute! I'm sure The Zero and The Oprah are planning ways to launder all kinds of Govt and non-profit money for them. Probably book deals too.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
But Megan ... is a SJW. .


That's the only thing I have against her.
No idea what SJW stands for, but assume it's some kind of racist bigot term. If so, you betray yourself by using it.

And do NOT spell it out for us.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
No idea what SJW stands for, but assume it's some kind of racist bigot term. If so, you betray yourself by using it.

And do NOT spell it out for us.


Not at all Rocky,

SJW stand for "Social Justice Warrior". They are the lefties out to destroy your and my way of life by branding anyone who happens to be white, male, conservative etc. as evil.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
No idea what SJW stands for, but assume it's some kind of racist bigot term. If so, you betray yourself by using it.

And do NOT spell it out for us.
Damn, Rocky!

Social
Justice
Warrior

Hopefully someday you'll come around to loving white people!
SJW = Social Justice Warrior

A term to describe young naïve liberal idiots who feel they have a right and even a duty to interfere with normal people doing normal things, because they don’t like it.
ANTIFA is an extreme example of Social Justice Warriors
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
No idea what SJW stands for, but assume it's some kind of racist bigot term. If so, you betray yourself by using it.

And do NOT spell it out for us.


Too funny.
In the very least, you should find out what it means before forming and stating your opinion on it.
Just could be you agree with what was said.... or not
Social Justice Warrior

Didn’t know it racial connotations, but I learn new stuff every day......
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Too funny.
In the very least, you should find out what it means before forming and stating your opinion on it.
Just could be you agree with what was said.... or not


?? How long have you been on the ‘Fire? Ignorance is a valued commodity around here.

Anyhoo... if Harry earned Nobility status then Rocky Raab is surely a King 😎

And not a Brit either......
Everyone is blaming the girl.

Its my contention this was Harry's plan all along and marrying Megan was a part of that plan.

Those in family's with two highly competitive brothers know exactly where I'm coming from.

Harry is more like his Mum and William his Dad.

I cant abide by his politics or his wife's especially their Obama/Oprah/Hollywood connections however if I were in his shoes I might do the same.

And those giving Rocky chit over his views on this are way off base and out of line on their comments.

His mums ostracizing was earned too
I always thought SJW was "Single Jewish Woman"
Originally Posted by Potsy
Social Justice Warrior

Didn’t know it racial connotations, but I learn new stuff every day......


Good luck to them both and bravo to Harry for spreading the blessing of his royal genetics and having the decency to break from his "in" with the corrupt, decadent NWO Deep State Cabal.
My wife, having been born and raised in Canada, doesn't understand how little Americans care about all of that royalty nonsense. She keeps reading about it and telling me the latest developments.

I think the entire concept of "Kings, Queens, Dukes", etc. is foolish for western culture in this day and age.

Actually, it's foolish regardless of what culture it exists in,...but particularly foolish for western culture.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
As far as I can see - although the doings of the Brit royals is way out of my field of vision - Harry was courageous in battle and now is courageous in life. He married a woman who seems to be lovely in all respects, and just as brave. The couple has caught no end of grief by bigots everywhere. They've told the world to bugger off, to use a Brit expression, and I say more power to them. Fare thee well, H&M.
.

Perfectly aligned with my thoughts. Gotta be tough living in a fish bowl.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
As far as I can see - although the doings of the Brit royals is way out of my field of vision - Harry was courageous in battle and now is courageous in life. He married a woman who seems to be lovely in all respects, and just as brave. The couple has caught no end of grief by bigots everywhere. They've told the world to bugger off, to use a Brit expression, and I say more power to them. Fare thee well, H&M.
.

Perfectly aligned with my thoughts. Gotta be tough living in a fish bowl.
You can say that again!
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
No idea what SJW stands for, but assume it's some kind of racist bigot term. If so, you betray yourself by using it.

And do NOT spell it out for us.


Not at all Rocky,

SJW stand for "Social Justice Warrior". They are the lefties out to destroy your and my way of life by branding anyone who happens to be white, male, conservative etc. as evil.


PREZACTLY !
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
I do know he reportedly aquitted himself quite well in Afghanistan which is a form of Nobility that actually means something.


No doubt William and Harry regained some of the respect lost by their shallow and frivolous relatives. They were advocates in corners of the world that needed them. Now Harry has quit because, apparently, somebody said something mean in the newspaper. I'm disappointed.
Harry needs flogged.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Harry needs flogged.


LOL
As a young lad, 5, I was treated to something different at an event in the old Memorial all in Wabigoon, Ontario when all present jumped to their feet when they put up a picture of Queen Elizabeth.
Originally Posted by kid0917
I always thought SJW was "Single Jewish Woman"


There’s probably a lot of overlap....
Originally Posted by FatCity67
Everyone is blaming the girl.

Its my contention this was Harry's plan all along and marrying Megan was a part of that plan.

Those in family's with two highly competitive brothers know exactly where I'm coming from.

Harry is more like his Mum and William his Dad.

I cant abide by his politics or his wife's especially their Obama/Oprah/Hollywood connections however if I were in his shoes I might do the same.

And those giving Rocky chit over his views on this are way off base and out of line on their comments.



Good analysis.

kwg
Harry may still have a less than positive attitude toward the Palace and how the situation with his mom was handled.

So, marrying this woman and thumbing his nose at the Palace may be a reflection, to some degree, of those long held feelings.

DF
Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
As far as I can see - although the doings of the Brit royals is way out of my field of vision - Harry was courageous in battle and now is courageous in life. He married a woman who seems to be lovely in all respects, and just as brave. The couple has caught no end of grief by bigots everywhere. They've told the world to bugger off, to use a Brit expression, and I say more power to them. Fare thee well, H&M.
.

Perfectly aligned with my thoughts. Gotta be tough living in a fish bowl.


Maybe not as tough as being divorced or single with a few mixed race kids, however. Thank God for our bucks going for welfare.
Harry does not tell me how to live. laugh
frankly, I don't give a rat's azz about the english royalty. Screw 'em all. Useless baggage, the lot of 'em.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
As far as I can see - although the doings of the Brit royals is way out of my field of vision - Harry was courageous in battle and now is courageous in life. He married a woman who seems to be lovely in all respects, and just as brave. The couple has caught no end of grief by bigots everywhere. They've told the world to bugger off, to use a Brit expression, and I say more power to them. Fare thee well, H&M.
.

Perfectly aligned with my thoughts. Gotta be tough living in a fish bowl.


Maybe not as tough as being divorced or single with a few mixed race kids, however. Thank God for our bucks going for welfare.


I've heard tell it's often pretty hard for baby mommas to get their baby daddy's to step up and pay for the fruits of their play. Of course, I figure that's just pure BS. whistle
Originally Posted by 700LH
They are getting a big dose of the real world not some PC liberal lala land..Harry as royalty is an idiot to have married her


And vice-versa....why put yourself through all that BS?!?!
Originally Posted by Bristoe
My wife, having been born and raised in Canada, doesn't understand how little Americans care about all of that royalty nonsense.


Not all Canadians are interested. In fact most 35yrs and younger couldn't care less, esp those here from other shores.
I figured the same thing happened to Harry that happened to Kaepernick. Hasbeen
I wish H&M well, but I'm betting against it. Of course, with opra and obamie coaching them, they will do good on the leftist market.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I wish everyone well.

That is commendable. I haven’t been able to do that.
Originally Posted by Nebraska
Originally Posted by 700LH
They are getting a big dose of the real world not some PC liberal lala land..Harry as royalty is an idiot to have married her


And vice-versa....why put yourself through all that BS?!?!


Noookie. I mean, true love.
Originally Posted by Nebraska
Originally Posted by 700LH
They are getting a big dose of the real world not some PC liberal lala land..Harry as royalty is an idiot to have married her


And vice-versa....why put yourself through all that BS?!?!

Now she is famous and was nothing before
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Harry may still have a less than positive attitude toward the Palace and how the situation with his mom was handled.

So, marrying this woman and thumbing his nose at the Palace may be a reflection, to some degree, of those long held feelings.


When their plans dont come to fruition
Harry will come crawling back with his tail
between his legs.

Currently they stand to lose substantial income
and privileges like HRH and SY-RPS... And thats
just the beginning.

Originally Posted by 700LH
.. Harry as royalty is an idiot to have married her


Makes one wonder if boy blunder had MOD overlook
his short comings in RCB and subsequent training
at Sandhurst to become a commissioned officer.
If I had to live in England, I'd denounce my lineage too.

Obviously they're just inching their way to the only country that's worth a fugk.
Anyone thinking the couple will be assuming anything like normal existence are mistaken. Harry will be a modern day remittance man and he will be well paid for being who he is; just like any other who is where he is due to an inheritance. He can't unring the bell. Meghan will be along for the ride. I don't have a lot of sympathy for their suffering from being rich and entitled but there are thousands of rich, entitled pricks who are worse people. There are some concerns about what they might expect from Canadian taxpayers (security etc.) and just how they might make a meaningful contribution to society. We shall see. GD
Vegan anti hunter...............he chose poorly.
But even so, maybe it will work out.
Its his wife/ family so wish him well.

As long as he doesn't get political here.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by wabigoon
On one of these Royalty threads I post the picture of Washington crossing the Delaware.


It is commonly accepted that George Washington owed his life at Brandywine to the merciful forebearance of the son of one Lord Pitfour, also nephew of the 5th Lord Elibank, said son and nephew AKA Major Patrick Ferguson.

All a bunch of fuggin’ Brits I know and no friend to us Irish, but I gotta give credit where credit is due 😎


Nice to hear others speak of our revolutionary times in my home area. I live just up the road from Brandywine battlefield and not so far at all from many other historic places. Most A-holes here just drive on by and have no idea.
You know what? Before any woman gets a chance to marry into the Royal Family - especially at the highest levels - they are thoroughly schooled on what their life will be and what will be expected of them. It isn't all dress up and fairy tale weddings. It is no privacy, no more freedom in public, no more doing as you please. You do as you are told or more importantly, you do your job as expected and demanded by your title 24/7/365.

Marrying a high level Royal gives you a job, obligations, as well as a spouse. There are expectations and neither gold digging or self promotion are part of it. Those are not in the job description.

Look, the Royals have been making bad choices on mates for centuries. Did any of Queen Liz's kids get it right? To my view, only William has gotten it right so far. Diana was so naive and so sheltered and young she had no idea what see was getting into, and that didn't end well long before that night in Paris.

On one hand, I can see Harry rejecting that lifestyle, his job, thus making him turn in his title. On the other hand, Ms. Markle there has been an attention whore of extraordinary proportions, even for that family. Now she's cutting a deal with Disney? Estranged from her family and HIS family? That takes some doing to have both your family and your in-laws pissed off at you.
I could not care less about the "Royals". What makes their stuff smell better than any other's fertilizer???? Their family historically and systematically raped and pillaged all peoples involved in any land they "discovered", for centuries. They are rich as a result of it. Thievery! America is the only place I know of that effectively told them to go home. Or we shot them. Sounds like the school playground bully. You kicked his backside and he left you alone. He even came back later in life and thought he was going to be your friend. Why is this even a subject to discuss? We have Virginia to keep in prayers right now, that and freedom of the US. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
Originally Posted by hanco
Good luck!


Good luck?

Divorced, B-list, soft porn Hollywood actress...


She won the lottery.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
.. Lord Pitfour, also nephew of the 5th Lord Elibank, said son and nephew AKA Major Patrick Ferguson.

All a bunch of fuggin’ Brits I know and no friend to us Irish, but I gotta give credit where credit is due 😎


Those three Brits were actually Scots
though they were British subjects due
to the 1707 union..and what you refer
to as the Irish became the same, due
to the 1801 union.


Here's what I know about the British, in general.

They fugged with the Germans so much in the early part of the 20th century that all of the quality British DNA got depleted due to war.
Basically,...they went from warriors to John Lennon in a generation.
the day they hooked up, got married, that was the end of their 'royal' attachment. from the standpoint of the Royals the marriage made no sense at all. I'm sure she has no appreciation for the UK or the royal legacy, don't know, but i wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't even Christian. There union was totally antithetical to the monarchy, which i'm sure brought them resentment. Harry already seems to have distanced himself, perfect match it seems. it'll be interesting to see whether he spits out the silver spoon
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Here's what I know about the British, in general.

They fugged with the Germans so much in the early part of the 20th century that all of the quality British DNA got depleted due to war.


German dna took a huge hit too.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Basically,...they went from warriors to John Lennon in a generation.


British Isles have a long history of being
Invaded, conquered, occupied and subjugated.

What constitutes British warrior DNA
can be attributed to Celt mixed with Romans,
Saxons, Norse, Normans, etc.

Its said by some that the Scots were the only
ones the Romans could not defeat, but that
is not strictly true... Romans did kick their ass
in the Scottish or more correctly 'Caledonian'
lowlands [battle of Mons Graupius] but they
didnt push on cause they had other far
more important priorities for the Empire.

Romans built two walls to manage/consolidate
their gains in Britannia.. Antonine and Hadrians
...also diverted Britannia stationed legions to Gaul
as priority.
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Basically,...they went from warriors to John Lennon in a generation.


British Isles have a long history of being
Invaded, conquered, occupied and subjugated.


Not having access to your info, the poor deluded Brits think the last time they were successfully invaded was a bit over 953 years ago, which seems a rather long time. I was there for the 900 year anniversary.

Originally Posted by Starman
[Those three Brits were actually Scots
though they were British subjects due
to the 1707 union.


Some people might ponder upon the fact that if I was citing the titles of his immediate kin I probably knew where he was born and where that lies on the island I grew up on.


Quote
to as the Irish became the same, due
to the 1801 union.


Strange, nobody I know voted for that, or were even asked.
Queen told em to get the fugg out.
Little mulatto toddler running around breaking antique schitt.
While momma updating facebook and instagram schitt not paying attention to the kid tearing schitt up.

Old bag had enough..

LOL!!!
Originally Posted by renegade50
Queen told em to get the fugg out.
Little mulatto toddler running around breaking antique schitt.
While momma updating facebook and instagram schitt not paying attention to the kid tearing schitt up.

Old bag had enough..

LOL!!!


Wait for it...

Birdie is going to tell you how it it really went down.
Who gives a f u c k?
He was born there, in England after all.

But that boy, can spot an un-American Nationalist toot sweet!
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by renegade50
Queen told em to get the fugg out.
Little mulatto toddler running around breaking antique schitt.
While momma updating facebook and instagram schitt not paying attention to the kid tearing schitt up.

Old bag had enough..

LOL!!!


Wait for it...

Birdie is going to tell you how it it really went down.

Yep....
Birdy and his english , irish , scottish, Welsh whatthefuggever heritage kick he has been on for the last couple months.
Island racial hatred and violence tales.
Tales of island daring do and tree of woe schit....
How fughing great they are this and that...

Never heard any of this " I was born and raised in england or where the fugg ever stuff" before

Been on here since 2012

Never heard him ever mention this before.
And I got a precise sharp memory.
Cause i sure as fugg would remember that little factoid about him.....


Hey Birdy......

Schitt a copy of your BC
Put a peice of tape over your dads and yours last name.
Dont worry about moms maiden name.

BC help show what you been saying about being born and raised overseas to be true.
Place of Birth
Mom and dads occupation.
Moms birthplace
Dads birthplace
You know
All the basic stuff on a citizen born overseas BC of US parents or parent.

Please prove this aint all some world of Commander Mcbragg stuff you are making up just for post ho center of attention schitt.



Pic or it never happened.
No piss poor excuse for no BC either.

Pic or it never happened.



Make me eat humble pie.....
IDGAF...

LMFAO!!!

Frantically looking for or photo shopping schit together from the internet......

Like "his cat" pics he finally took to the vet last year....



LMFAO!!!!!

IDGAF......
Guy was a prince and threw it all away.

Of course, he's never had to eat boiled eggs and crackers until payday but I wish him well.

His wife strikes me as a gold-digger.
What, you wanna know about my love life too?

My Dad was Sixth Marines 22nd Batallion, got shot at on Okinawa but was then sent to China for a year. My mom was born in Manchester UK but on account of England was in a shambles after the war was put on a boat to visit her cousin in Canada and then visited Brooklyn to stay with another cousin.

So it happened she was 15 in ‘46 when my dad finally got
back to the States, he was 22. First day he met her he told her he was gonna marry her. When she went back to England my Irish grandma who was then taking care of German POW’s at Camp Shanks ( they would come to her house for supper and they called her whatever “mother” is in German) told my Dad he would never be happy unless he followed her.

So, much to the horror of my mom’s parents my Dad up and moved to England, no money, a place he had never been and married her when she turned 19, brung her back to the States.

She missed her family and folks just didn’t hop on a flight back thenso, five years later, right after I was born, they took a ship back to England where I, an American Citizen, grew up, in my mom’s old neighborhood. So when I say I never set foot in America until my teenage years, that’s how it happened. The economy in England still sucked at that time, moving back here was a no-brainer.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Here's what I know about the British, in general.

They fugged with the Germans so much in the early part of the 20th century that all of the quality British DNA got depleted due to war.


German dna took a huge hit too.


That's a fact.
No BC huh??????
Go figure.....
laugh laugh laugh
Before your time, and since, Birdie has posted about being raised in England. You just haven't been paying attention.
Renegade, I’ve heard Birdy talk about growing up in England several times over the years, I don’t hold it against him.. I like his stories and respect his tolerance for self-abuse. 👍

This place does have some undesirables but Birdy ain’t one of them.imho
Yeah, he is a bit weird, but in an interesting way.
Rene is still bitter that his Ancestry.com results came back “78% Ugly” 🙂

Fortunately his children do not resemble him.
While the Duchess seems like a woke twit, she may well be a fine gal in the ways that matter to Harry. Don't blame either of them for wanting out of that cluster f*ck situation.
My Irish grandpa on my dad’s side despised the Brits, he died before I was born, his second wife, my Irish grandma, was far too Christian to hate anybody . My dad grew up hunting and trapping in what was then a rural area of NY State and didn’t much give a flip about the Brits one way or another.

My mom’s Irish mom MARRIED a Brit, albeit a half-Irish one, and he was at least a Catholic. My mom is still Pro-British all the way, was shocked when my DNA results showed she hadda be at least 60% Irish 🙂 But to put that in context she is Greatest Generation, still recalls the sound of German bombers and falling bombs, back then being English really MEANT something.

Sad part is, after Okinawa my dad never willingly picked up a gun again, didn’t mind if I got one, just never wanted to shoot it.
Originally Posted by deflave
If I had to live in England, I'd denounce my lineage too.

Obviously they're just inching their way to the only country that's worth a fugk.



I agree! Worst yet is they want to be here and there isn't anything we can do to stop them from coming. At least it won't be until after Trump's next four years.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
No idea what SJW stands for, but assume it's some kind of racist bigot term. If so, you betray yourself by using it.

And do NOT spell it out for us.



What's a matter Rocky? You run those letters through your list of aerospace acronyms and not find a fit? laugh
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Rene is still bitter that his Ancestry.com results came back “78% Ugly” 🙂

Fortunately his children do not resemble him.

You got me real good again!!!!
My humble pie I'm eating right now taste good though.

Dgaf about ancestory crap.
100% American.

smirk wink


Originally Posted by Kellywk
Originally Posted by kid0917
I always thought SJW was "Single Jewish Woman"


There’s probably a lot of overlap....

lol yes, I think you are right.
Funny how things work out; my Dad’s dad hated the Brits but his own brother (my Dad’s Uncle) enlisted in the British Army (Royal Munster Fusilliers) well BEFORE WWI and ended up getting killed at Gallipoli.

My moms’s contempt for the Irish prob’ly came from her own mom. My mom’s mom came over to England from Ireland as a little girl. One day her Irish dad just didn’t come home, eventually presumed dead leaving his family destitute.

Some time later during WWI the guy was spotted, in uniform, on the street in London. Turns out he had abandoned his young family, hopped on a ship to New Zealand, married again and enlisted in the ANZACs when war broke out. He was wounded at Beersheba and sent to London to convalesce.

My mom’s Grandma had him sued for bigamy just to clear her name, but refused to accept even a hapenny in compensation.

So my mom’s mom married a Brit, or half Brit anyway. Her father in law had been a prosperous merchant in Manchester, but then became an alcoholic and drank his fortune away.

So the world turns.
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