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Posted By: Redneck WI shutting down... - 03/23/20
It seems Evers is joining the crowd:

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MADISON, Wis. (WBAY) - Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers says he will be issuing an order that ceases "all non-essential business statewide" to help stop the spread of coronavirus.

In a tweet, the governor states he will issue a #SaferAtHome order Tuesday.

We have been working hard to ensure the health and safety of the people of our state as we have responded to COVID-19. We’ve taken important steps, but folks, time is of the essence. So today I’m announcing we'll be issuing a #SaferAtHome order tomorrow. Here’s what this means ⬇️

— Governor Tony Evers (@GovEvers) March 23, 2020
No specifics were given in the tweets, but the governor says more details will be released soon.

"Over the past few days, I’ve talked with public health experts and with business leaders and local elected officials around the state. Overwhelmingly the response I heard is that we need an all-hands-on-deck approach to stopping the spread of COVID-19 in Wisconsin," says Gov. Evers. "In fact, business leaders have suggested that it is imperative to slow the growth of the disease and that the state cease all non-essential business statewide."

Over the weekend, Wisconsin saw its largest one-day increase in cases. The state had 100 more confirmed cases from Saturday to Sunday.

There have been four deaths reported in Wisconsin.

CLICK HERE to track the outbreak in the state.

"People across our state are still out and about unnecessarily that are putting our friends, our neighbors, and our communities at risk. Please #StayHome and help us save lives," Gov. Evers tweeted. "We also need folks to limit their interactions to the same people, not different small groups. Shrinking your circle of interactions will help prevent the spread of COVID-19. Unfortunately that means no sleepovers, no play dates, and no dinner parties with friends and neighbors."

There will be additional details soon about what this order means for you, but I wanted to give everyone the opportunity to prepare and plan ahead so you can help do your part to keep our friends, neighbors, and communities safe.

— Governor Tony Evers (@GovEvers) March 23, 2020
"Workers providing essential care or services in our communities will be allowed to continue to travel to and from work. That includes folks like healthcare professionals, grocers, family caregivers, among other people whose work is critical for folks across our state," says Gov. Evers.

Action 2 News will updated this developing story. VISIT wbay.com/coronavirus for local, national and international coverage.

We’re all in this together, and each and every one of us has to do our part to help slow the spread of COVID-19 so we can #FlattenTheCurve to ensure our doctors, nurses, and healthcare workers have the opportunity to do their important work.

— Governor Tony Evers (@GovEvers) March 23, 2020
On Action 2 News This Morning, Prevea Health President and CEO Dr. Ashok Rai urged the governor to shut down the state.

"We need to shut the state down. Other states have done it and they'll tell you they did it too late. We have an opportunity to learn from New York. If you look at a picture of Manhattan in Times Square today it's empty. That should be the streets of Green Bay two weeks ago. A short term pain here will get us back to our normal lives sooner," says Dr. Rai.

The Wisconsin Department of Health Services says COVID-19 is spread via coughs and sneezes.

"This is similar to how influenza is spread. The virus is found in droplets from the throat and nose. When someone coughs or sneezes, other people near them can breathe in those droplets. The virus can also spread when someone touches an object with the virus on it. If that person touches their mouth, face, or eyes, the virus can make them sick," says DHS.

CLICK HERE for Wisconsin's guide to COVID-19.

Here's how you can prevent the spread (INFORMATION FROM DHS)

* Avoid close contact with people who are sick.

* Stay at home as much as possible. Cancel events and avoid groups, gatherings, play dates, and nonessential appointments.

* Stay home when you are sick, except to get medical care.

* Wash your hands regularly for at least 20 seconds. If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol.

* Cover your mouth and nose with a tissue when you cough or sneeze or use the inside of your elbow.

* Stay at least six feet away from other people.

* Clean frequently touched surfaces and objects daily (e.g., tables, countertops, light switches, doorknobs, and cabinet handles).

CLICK HERE for a guide on how to properly disinfect your surfaces.
Posted By: New_2_99s Re: WI shutting down... - 03/23/20
Yep, Doug Ford just announced the same here in Ontario.

Waiting on the official list of essential businesses, will be available at lunch time tomorrow.

Those not on the list must close as of midnight Tuesday/Wednesday.
Posted By: Kyhilljack Re: WI shutting down... - 03/23/20
Now the phkng cheese aisle will be empty. This has to end.
Posted By: lapua6547 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/23/20
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Now the phkng cheese aisle will be empty. This has to end.



Hahaha
Posted By: prplbkrr Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20


Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Now the phkng cheese aisle will be empty. This has to end.


Cheese? Pffft

BEER. Must.....have.....beer.

If you think nobody's happy if Mom's not happy, wait 'til Dad runs out of beer.
Posted By: jaydub in wi Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
No safer at home for me. I'm in the paper industry so I've been labeled an essential employee. At least the roads will be empty...
Posted By: Teal Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by jaydub in wi
No safer at home for me. I'm in the paper industry so I've been labeled an essential employee. At least the roads will be empty...


Drove into GB on Sunday, 41 was dead.

I need to go to the dentist tomorrow- another ride into De Pere from Kewaunee. Suspect it will be dead. Wonder if a cop will stop me?

Its legit, cracked a tooth, massive pain since Sat but I don't feel like dorkin around with a county mountie on the side of the road.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by jaydub in wi
No safer at home for me. I'm in the paper industry so I've been labeled an essential employee. At least the roads will be empty...


Drove into GB on Sunday, 41 was dead.

I need to go to the dentist tomorrow- another ride into De Pere from Kewaunee. Suspect it will be dead. Wonder if a cop will stop me?

Its legit, cracked a tooth, massive pain since Sat but I don't feel like dorkin around with a county mountie on the side of the road.

Lucky you can go to the dentist.

Mine is shut down til April 24, open for emergencies only.
Posted By: Teal Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by jaydub in wi
No safer at home for me. I'm in the paper industry so I've been labeled an essential employee. At least the roads will be empty...


Drove into GB on Sunday, 41 was dead.

I need to go to the dentist tomorrow- another ride into De Pere from Kewaunee. Suspect it will be dead. Wonder if a cop will stop me?

Its legit, cracked a tooth, massive pain since Sat but I don't feel like dorkin around with a county mountie on the side of the road.

Lucky you can go to the dentist.

Mine is shut down til April 24, open for emergencies only.





We determined this was an emergency. 30% of my molar is now down the toilet.
Posted By: Redneck Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Now the phkng cheese aisle will be empty. This has to end.
LMAO... That's very good...
Posted By: New_2_99s Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Well, apparently, Automotive repair shops are essential !
Posted By: Windfall Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
What does that mean exactly for someone trying to get back home? I'm all for self isolating, but I'd darn sure rather be doing it in a cold state with decent medical care instead of a hot spot state that has people pouring in when they were told to isolate where they lived. The airport in Orlando lets in 190 flights a day out of New York where they have 20 times the number of Covid-19 cases more than we have here. Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky don't seem to have the restrictions that Illinois and Wisconsin do now.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by jaydub in wi
No safer at home for me. I'm in the paper industry so I've been labeled an essential employee. At least the roads will be empty...


Drove into GB on Sunday, 41 was dead.

I need to go to the dentist tomorrow- another ride into De Pere from Kewaunee. Suspect it will be dead. Wonder if a cop will stop me?

Its legit, cracked a tooth, massive pain since Sat but I don't feel like dorkin around with a county mountie on the side of the road.

Lucky you can go to the dentist.

Mine is shut down til April 24, open for emergencies only.





We determined this was an emergency. 30% of my molar is now down the toilet.

Sounds like a whiskey and needle nose type operation.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
Well, apparently, Automotive repair shops are essential !

In our county and surrounding counties dry cleaners are essential businesses!
Posted By: Huntz Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Yay ,no FIBs. grin
Posted By: sse Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by teal
Originally Posted by jaydub in wi
No safer at home for me. I'm in the paper industry so I've been labeled an essential employee. At least the roads will be empty...


Drove into GB on Sunday, 41 was dead.

I need to go to the dentist tomorrow- another ride into De Pere from Kewaunee. Suspect it will be dead. Wonder if a cop will stop me?

Its legit, cracked a tooth, massive pain since Sat but I don't feel like dorkin around with a county mountie on the side of the road.

Lucky you can go to the dentist.

Mine is shut down til April 24, open for emergencies only.





We determined this was an emergency. 30% of my molar is now down the toilet.

ouch
Posted By: Teal Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Managed to save the tooth with some dremel and resin work.

As far as WI being closed, basically a declaration without change. Bars still closed everything else open and I had a bit of traffic in town.

GB may be different given all the transportation and paper work we do. Just about everyone is essential.
Posted By: Redneck Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Yep - no published list of any kind yet...
Posted By: widrahthaar Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by Redneck
Yep - no published list of any kind yet...


The list is out. Mostly stuff that was already closed.

Except now it’s illegal to go to my Dad’s house for supper.
Posted By: badger Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
Well, apparently, Automotive repair shops are essential !


Wish someone would tell the locals around here so they'd bring their cars in. It's like a ghost town in my shop, dealers and other indy's are all crying the blues. Local Porsche dealer normally turns 45-55 cars a day through their Service Dept. 14 cars in today, 11 of them for warranty work.
Posted By: Windfall Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
The local repair and dealership shops are out two-three weeks just doing oil changes for all the snowbirds that want to get out of town.
Posted By: Redneck Re: WI shutting down... - 03/24/20
Originally Posted by widrahthaar
Originally Posted by Redneck
Yep - no published list of any kind yet...


The list is out. Mostly stuff that was already closed.

Except now it’s illegal to go to my Dad’s house for supper.
Thanks for your post - I just found the list and printed it out... Essentially (PUN!) I can stay open - but I will only do business via shipping/receiving and will prohibit walk-in customers for now.. Not because of me - but my wife is very susceptible to this stuff and if she gets it she may very well not make it... Trouble is, she's an RN and has to work at a cancer clinic although her job now is 99% computer-oriented.. Still - people come and go; can't avoid it..

But I can avoid people here pretty easily..
Posted By: jaydub in wi Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Originally Posted by teal
Managed to save the tooth with some dremel and resin work.

As far as WI being closed, basically a declaration without change. Bars still closed everything else open and I had a bit of traffic in town.

GB may be different given all the transportation and paper work we do. Just about everyone is essential.

I'm glad your tooth is repaired. Appleton area still has some traffic. I live on a 2 lane state highway east of Appleton. Guessing traffic is 20% of the volume before all of this.
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Well they left an exemption so I have to take my daughter back to her mother. Taking her back doesn't make any sense to me, can't convince her mom that keeping her in rural Richland county makes a lot more sense than driving her back to Madison...then my ex never did give a [bleep] about anyone but herself anyway.

On the plus side, had another 70 pounds of barley delivered today, so I should be good on beer for the foreseeable future.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Apparently Union construction projects are considered "essential".
Posted By: MarkFed Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Originally Posted by steve4102
Apparently Union construction projects are considered "essential".


I can see how some construction projects would be essential to life sustaining businesses or industries.

What is your point?
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Originally Posted by MarkFed
Originally Posted by steve4102
Apparently Union construction projects are considered "essential".


I can see how some construction projects would be essential to life sustaining businesses or industries.

What is your point?

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.

What's wrong with that picture.
Posted By: Redneck Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.
Posted By: Jerryv Re: WI shutting down... - 03/25/20
Originally Posted by prplbkrr


Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Now the phkng cheese aisle will be empty. This has to end.


Cheese? Pffft

BEER. Must.....have.....beer.

If you think nobody's happy if Mom's not happy, wait 'til Dad runs out of beer.


I haven't seen the list, but I heard liquor stores are considered "essential". It is Wisconsin after all! smile


Jerry
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Pssst, “Housing” construction is NOT new single family Home Construction.
It is housing for elderly, low income, high income town homes, Apartment complexes, etc, at that is all a Union.
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Pssst, “Housing” construction is NOT new single family Home Construction.
It is housing for elderly, low income, high income town homes, Apartment complexes, etc, at that is all a Union.



Go ahead and tell that to the guys still working here. As someone who has worked in the trades here for years, I can tell you with absolute certainty, either, you have been misinformed or you're just a troll.

And that's all I have to say about that.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Pssst, “Housing” construction is NOT new single family Home Construction.
It is housing for elderly, low income, high income town homes, Apartment complexes, etc, at that is all a Union.



Go ahead and tell that to the guys still working here. As someone who has worked in the trades here for years, I can tell you with absolute certainty, either, you have been misinformed or you're just a troll.

And that's all I have to say about that.

LOL
Not only have I “worked” in the trades for over 40 years, I have been a Project Manager for almost 20 of that 40. If fact I thought I was retired, but they keep calling me back now and then to manage current projects that need some assistance.

In fact I just checked on a couple permits I submitted several weeks ago, was told they will not be issuing any non- commercial ( Union) permits till further notice.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Oh and BTW Kraemer is a member of both the ABC and AGC of Wisconsin .
Posted By: CowboyTim Re: WI shutting down... - 03/26/20
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
[quote=steve4102]
Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.[/quote

Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Oh and BTW Kraemer is a member of both the ABC and AGC of Wisconsin .


There are 3 "Kraemer" companies 2 are Union, (rock quarry company, and bridge construction. USED to be the same company but split about 20 years ago). KRAEMER BROTHERS is a "commercial" construction company, NON-UNION(the original companies were started by different members of the same family and were 2 separate businesses...both in Plain WI, just down the road from each other. One is and always has been Union(they do mostly quarry and bridge work), the other isn't.

I worked for Kraemer Brothers in the 90s, they got slow I found a different job...they were and still are NON union.

It is nice to know that working for years in a different state makes you such an expert on how things are in Wisconsin...you are aware that the Unions are stronger in MN than they are here right?

"Kraemer is a member of both the ABC and AGC of Wisconsin ." They sure are, after 40 years in the trades you should know that neither of those has anything to do with whether a company is union or not.
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