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North America is changing. Many conservative leaning people are polarizing farther right. Some farther left. The left are going farther left. The center are polarizing

Governments are stressed. Help the economy, help business, help people, help high density cities....help the weaker members of society.

Nothing is free tho.Someone pays in the end. The wealthy and middle class WILL pay for this. The poor, homeless, sick, needy and vulnerable will benefit and need more and more and more.

Canada just announced many many millions more for charities and non profits helping the young and the old. High density cities need and want more. Both sides of the border do not want to use armed forces to contain cities, contain States and Provinces.

Who will pay for all this when it's over? Governments only control collective finances. Spend now...collect later, figure it out later.

High density populations are forcing all government leaders to move left.

Which way will you go?
The die is cast, the chasms are too wide and deep and never the twain shall meet.
Jmo
We are all headed for the undertaker.
So live your life.
Don't worry about the masses.
Enjoy your family and friends. Life is short.
Originally Posted by WTM45
We are all headed for the undertaker.
So live your life.
Don't worry about the masses.
Enjoy your family and friends. Life is short.


This is what I should have said.
Balkanization.

Coming soon.
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress


Which way will you go?



If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious of a brand new poster who seems to be fanning the flames, encouraging people to widen the gap.
Originally Posted by WTM45
We are all headed for the undertaker.
So live your life.
Don't worry about the masses.
Enjoy your family and friends. Life is short.


Some of us would like to leave the world a better place for our children and grandchildren than what it was when we came into it. Best as I can tell, they will all be tax slaves when they come of age due to all this spending.
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress

North America is changing. Many conservative leaning people are polarizing farther right. Some farther left. The left are going farther left. The center are polarizing

Governments are stressed. Help the economy, help business, help people, help high density cities....help the weaker members of society.

Nothing is free tho.Someone pays in the end. The wealthy and middle class WILL pay for this. The poor, homeless, sick, needy and vulnerable will benefit and need more and more and more.

Canada just announced many many millions more for charities and non profits helping the young and the old. High density cities need and want more. Both sides of the border do not want to use armed forces to contain cities, contain States and Provinces.

Who will pay for all this when it's over? Governments only control collective finances. Spend now...collect later, figure it out later.

High density populations are forcing all government leaders to move left.

Which way will you go?

Another disgruntled Bernie voter!


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That is an astute post, I would add one little thing, maybe it's just semantics, but in my view, the split transcends political boundaries. It's more sociological than political, it's in our very dna...it's urban vs rural that defines the split, so many people do not participate in the political process that political numbers (only 56% in 2016) are meaningless. Maybe it comes down to those who want to be taken care of, and those who want to take care of themselves. Like Toot said, the die is cast. Balkanization may be the end result. I don't think the flyover people will ever consign themselves to being responsible for the care and feeding and well being of the urban elites who have heaped scorn and derision on the deplorables for the last 100 years.
I lean toward the side with all the guns and the ability to use them. Call me ultra conservative.
It's demographics, the end.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Balkanization.

Coming soon.


It can’t get here soon enough!
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress


Which way will you go?



If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious of a brand new poster who seems to be fanning the flames, encouraging people to widen the gap.


winner winner,chicken dinner
I’m already there and not going anywhere.
Trolling is increasing with all the self quarantine!
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress


Which way will you go?



If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious of a brand new poster who seems to be fanning the flames, encouraging people to widen the gap.



Go to 2:45
IMO this is the legacy of the magic negroe. Divide the country as it has never been divided before along any lines you can find. Political, racial, urban vs. rural, gun owners vs. anti-gunners, rich vs. poor and middle class, blue collar vs. white collar, military vs. civilian. Get my drift?

I think current events are changing the minds of a lot of people who are undecided and are have yet to take a position. Those who have already decide are polarizing to the right or left.

I don't think true leaders are forced to take a side. True leaders lead based on their position on the issues, whether that be for the good of the people or to consolidate wealth and power unto themselves. Difficult times reveal the true character of people.

Am neither a troll or a liberal. Just concerned where my current funds and future wealth will go. Not happy about libjuts spending and allowing the economy to nose dive.

I am working and watching it all go out the window before my very eyes.

conservative becoming ultra conservative very quickly

would rather see NY and other hot spot places with armed forces surrounding them forcing them to stop the spread. What good is an armed force in a 'war' if you don"t use it?
Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
Originally Posted by WTM45
We are all headed for the undertaker.
So live your life.
Don't worry about the masses.
Enjoy your family and friends. Life is short.


Some of us would like to leave the world a better place for our children and grandchildren than what it was when we came into it. Best as I can tell, they will all be tax slaves when they come of age due to all this spending.


No amount of taxes can repay what is owed. Maybe, just maybe they’ll be able to service the debt. Maybe.
Originally Posted by rong
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress


Which way will you go?



If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious of a brand new poster who seems to be fanning the flames, encouraging people to widen the gap.


winner winner,chicken dinner



Too soon to tell, I’d say.
Polarization = The Divide and Conquer strategy.
Good, I don't want to "meet in the middle" with Marxists. There is no middle with radical Leftists. No amount of Left is too far Left , but any amount of Conservatism is lunatic fringe to a Leftists. How do I compromise with people that want to destroy America and make it a Socialist Hell Hole?
Originally Posted by reivertom
Good, I don't want to "meet in the middle" with Marxists. There is no middle with radical Leftists. No amount of Left is too far Left , but any amount of Conservatism is lunatic fringe to a Leftists. How do I compromise with people that want to destroy America and make it a Socialist Hell Hole?


Yessir.
We might win a few converts with these first time gun buyers. We’ll know come November.
I agree with Reivertom,I do not want to meet in the middle. To socialist the middle is their side, plus the true middle is no good for America.
Playing nice with back-stabbing democrats is how we got here today.
"Build the Wall"- - - - - -around Noo Yawk, Noo Joisey, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Austin, Portland, Denver, etc. Once they finish their cage match, go in and shoot the survivors!
Jerry
F. Chuck Todd just stated liberal city dwellers think Trump is not doing enough, while rural Republicans think he is currently doing fine.

F. Chuck said that will all change when rural counties become more affected by the virus, because they are ill-equipped to handle it.

Almost seemed a call to the city dwellers......go forth and spread it in Trump-voting/supporting rural counties.
In the end, the liberals will win. We'll have a global government, all of our money will be controlled by the government, guns will be gone, sin will be rampant (much worse than even now), churches will preach government dictated beliefs or be illegal, and Satan will be in charge...for a short time. Is this the time for it to happen? Nobody knows but the signs are pointing that way.
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
F. Chuck Todd just stated liberal city dwellers think Trump is not doing enough, while rural Republicans think he is currently doing fine.

F. Chuck said that will all change when rural counties become more affected by the virus, because they are ill-equipped to handle it.

Almost seemed a call to the city dwellers......go forth and spread it in Trump-voting/supporting rural counties.


Chuck Todd is a friggen moron and a devoted commie.
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress

North America is changing. Many conservative leaning people are polarizing farther right. Some farther left. The left are going farther left. The center are polarizing

Governments are stressed. Help the economy, help business, help people, help high density cities....help the weaker members of society.

Nothing is free tho.Someone pays in the end. The wealthy and middle class WILL pay for this. The poor, homeless, sick, needy and vulnerable will benefit and need more and more and more.

Canada just announced many many millions more for charities and non profits helping the young and the old. High density cities need and want more. Both sides of the border do not want to use armed forces to contain cities, contain States and Provinces.

Who will pay for all this when it's over? Governments only control collective finances. Spend now...collect later, figure it out later.

High density populations are forcing all government leaders to move left.

Which way will you go?


Americans and Australians are far more similar than dissimilar as people, but a major difference exists in politics and political viewpoints.
Whereas Americans are divided into 2 camps, Aussies are singular in their disrespect of all things politics. The culture is to "Throw the bastards out" at every election. Nothing much changes because they are both left of center political parties. That is why you always need to check to see who the current Prime Minister is because the way the Westminster System works, the PM is still a member of parliament who has to meet with and support his constituents, so is always accountable to both the people, his electorate and his party which elects him as their leader.
You can make an appointment to meet with the Prime Minister as your local member, if you live within his electorate and he is obliged to spend so much time doing so.
Aussies a less shy and don't usually need motivation to express themselves. A spade is still a shovel and PC language is considered a lie and the user untrustworthy.

So called "ultra conservative" isn't ultra conservative. It's just traditional conservatism.

What is called conservatism today is just a mishmash of leftism expressed at various levels of intensity.
2008 was the largest theft scheme in world history. This will be at least five times larger. Trillions in wealth redistributed again to the ruling class and they own all the media and propaganda.
The Taking Coalition vs the Leave Us Alone Coalition.

It’s as simple as that, Atlas is about to shrug.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress


Which way will you go?



If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious of a brand new poster who seems to be fanning the flames, encouraging people to widen the gap.


Good call.
Originally Posted by Nebraska
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by BD_Huntress


Which way will you go?



If I didn't know better, I'd be suspicious of a brand new poster who seems to be fanning the flames, encouraging people to widen the gap.


Good call.


Premature.
I find it interesting talking to independents that say they vote either way depending on which particular candidate they like. I usually say they just bite fir the one that looks best on TV. When the divide is so wide how do you not pick a side already.

I'm also confused by professed conservatives who say they're voting for Biden because Trump tweets mean things sometimes. They are the ones that drive me crazy. How can you have a single conservative hair on your body and vote for Biden?

Like democrats that go to church and own guns. I just don't understand them.

Bb
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I find it interesting talking to independents that say they vote either way depending on which particular candidate they like. I usually say they just bite fir the one that looks best on TV. When the divide is so wide how do you not pick a side already.

I'm also confused by professed conservatives who say they're voting for Biden because Trump tweets mean things sometimes. They are the ones that drive me crazy. How can you have a single conservative hair on your body and vote for Biden?

Like democrats that go to church and own guns. I just don't understand them.

Bb



You raise some good points. I’ve seen the same and it’s baffling.
No place in America for any democrat any more. The left, democrats, liberals, communist, socialist, hollywood, snowflakes, the media, and islamites they want power and control of the people. They hate Americans, the Constitution, and the USA. They are voting to destroy jobs, health care and health care jobs, they for communism, destroying the unborn and the just born, they are destroying prisons, they want to destroy the stock market, and they want to destroy all the energy sector jobs. They want to band all weapons. They are for open borders. They want very high 90% taxes to give free education, free food, free health care, and free housing to illegals or anyone too lazy to work. They wish to destroy the constitution and replace it.
This is an interesting conversation. There are 2 sides in everything and only one is good or right. That side belongs to God, the right side the good side. By the way did we hear a thing today about the 3000 plus Americans that died every day since 1973? We have a cure for this and it's called stop abortion. In case you're keeping score those that approve of this carnage are NOT on God's side. They usually side with letting criminals go unpunished too.

That day at the bridge on Concord when many good men showed up to defend the right to keep and bear arms...those folks were on God's side. We may have to make that choice ourselves. Trump kicked the hornets nest when he invoked tariffs on China. He upset the globalism apple cart that Bush 41 started. Since then the push to make America bow to others such as the UN have widened the gap between the left and right. We that adhere to the Constitution and the Founding of this nation hate the idea of being part of the global community. The liberals love it and seek it. Their master is the devil himself.

What we're seeing here is Biblical prophesy unfold. The Bible tells us about these times we are seeing if we'll read about it and look for it. I hope our great nation has many more years left and that those that are young can enjoy the freedom our Founders signed away their lives, fortunes and sacred honor for. For that to happen we need the blessing of God !!
A house divided against itself cannot stand. We are becoming as divided as in 1860. The destruction of our economy due to irrational panicking about the Chinese flu will not help.
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
A house divided against itself cannot stand. We are becoming as divided as in 1860. The destruction of our economy due to irrational panicking about the Chinese flu will not help.


The Globalists understand this all too well. Just waiting on the sidelines with baited breath.

I made my decision before I was old enough to vote....and my position is more firmly planted now! memtb
Originally Posted by memtb

I made my decision before I was old enough to vote....and my position is more firmly planted now! memtb


Mine evolved into the unmovable.

Ask no quarter and give none.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by memtb

I made my decision before I was old enough to vote....and my position is more firmly planted now! memtb


Mine evolved into the unmovable.

Ask no quarter and give none.


Well said! memtb
Originally Posted by LeonHitchcox
I lean toward the side with all the guns and the ability to use them. Call me ultra conservative.


Over a billion Chinese residents would love to be in our situation. They have to resort to pitchforks if those are even legal there to get rid of the garbage running the country.
“Which way will you go?”

I’ve been where I want to be for a long time 😊
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by LeonHitchcox
I lean toward the side with all the guns and the ability to use them. Call me ultra conservative.


Over a billion Chinese residents would love to be in our situation. They have to resort to pitchforks if those are even legal there to get rid of the garbage running the country.


There’s a reason for their large standing military and it ain’t to invade another country.
I've been a bit caught up in this generational bagging on the millennials thing the last year or two. Now I realize that that's just another way we are being divided.

I typically try really hard to only discriminate based on psychographics not demographics. Meaning I try to make my judgments based on how a person thinks not age, race or otherwise.

If you think like a commie leftist I may judge you. They hate it too and love to tell people they're judgmental if you don't approve of everything they do. Meanwhile they always judge us because we go to church, own guns, drive a truck, or any number of a thousand other reasons but they think they're so accepting.

Bb
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