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Dear Lord please this man be correct. This would answer so many of our prayers.


Watch the last two minutes

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6146455701001#sp=show-clips
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Severely ill patients' average BMI 30.7


Wow.
With weight comes a host of other issues...it’s not the weight it’s the heart and lung problems. Many of which contributed to the weight in the first place...sometimes the other way around
This could be some news that many people so desperately need to keep hope and a positive attitude!
I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!
Originally Posted by Stickfight
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Severely ill patients' average BMI 30.7


Wow.

Average BMI of US adult population hovers just under 30. 30.7 isn’t what many of us think of when we think *fat*.
5’10” and 215 pds is a BMI of 30.8 for reference.
Exactly my point. Every unhealthy in any way person on the planet has a BMI over 30
I think this is why Trump said in 2 weeks we should see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Humm, darkness to light, now where have I heard that. Sounds familiar. whistle

I think it's why Trump said the economy would soon be roaring back.

Originally Posted by Quak
Exactly my point. Every unhealthy in any way person on the planet has a BMI over 30



Conversely, there are a lot of very healthy people with a BMI over 30 as well.

MM
Originally Posted by Quak
Exactly my point. Every unhealthy in any way person on the planet has a BMI over 30



Where did you come up with that BS?
Let’s just say it’s an observation lol. Wasn’t trying to state scientific fact


I for one have a BMI over 30 and I’m healthy as a horse.
30.5 BMI , here. In pretty good shape. 5' 3.5", 175 pounds. No gut.
Originally Posted by Quak
Let’s just say it’s an observation lol. Wasn’t trying to state scientific fact


I for one have a BMI over 30 and I’m healthy as a horse.



Quak, be aware there’s an outbreak of “Strangles” (equine distemper) happening! grin memtb
According to Google:

"What is the average BMI for a woman?
"The BMI of the average woman in the U.S. is 29.6, which falls into the category of “overweight.”

Not saying what''s good or bad in the case of Corona virus, but we are an overweight nation.
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Quak
Exactly my point. Every unhealthy in any way person on the planet has a BMI over 30



Conversely, there are a lot of very healthy people with a BMI over 30 as well.

MM



My BMI was 26 or so I think. Over 25 years ago. in the military and I maxed every PT test I took. In fact I maxed 2 iPYT tests in a row back to back but worked out 2 hours a day then. I was considered overweight but had a 32 inch waist and 18 inch neck. I remember they used to measure my neck, wrists, waist to determine if overweight because at 6 feet 205lbs was 30 lbs over ideal weight.

BMI ok as general indicator for those who don't work out much
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Beginning of the end of the pandemic???

A check of the Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map (note trend-line in lower right corner) doesn't seem to indicate this.

see: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.
Originally Posted by Quak
Exactly my point. Every unhealthy in any way person on the planet has a BMI over 30

Tell that to Karen Carpenter.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Quak
Exactly my point. Every unhealthy in any way person on the planet has a BMI over 30



Conversely, there are a lot of very healthy people with a BMI over 30 as well.

MM



My BMI was 26 or so I think. Over 25 years ago. in the military and I maxed every PT test I took. In fact I maxed 2 iPYT tests in a row back to back but worked out 2 hours a day then. I was considered overweight but had a 32 inch waist and 18 inch neck. I remember they used to measure my neck, wrists, waist to determine if overweight because at 6 feet 205lbs was 30 lbs over ideal weight.

BMI ok as general indicator for those who don't work out much


BTDT. Got obnoxious after a while. Crush PT tests, ruck march like a man on fire. "You're overweight" F*** you, you lifer careerist POS.
Originally Posted by djs
Beginning of the end of the pandemic???

A check of the Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map (note trend-line in lower right corner) doesn't seem to indicate this.

see: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


Finding a medication that can treat it successfully should definitely be considered the beginning of the end. It may take a couple or few weeks to produce enough of it and get it distributed to clinics and pharmacies.
BMI is bullshit, IMO.
Originally Posted by ironbender
BMI is bullshit, IMO.


+1
Originally Posted by djs
Beginning of the end of the pandemic???

A check of the Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map (note trend-line in lower right corner) doesn't seem to indicate this.

see: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


I know you are a mental midget and slow as f uck, but the reason this is an alarming pandemic is because there, up to this point has not been a sufficient treatment to battle the illness. If said treatment is developed, the severity of the illness would be reduced such that we could resume our daily lives. Try to keep up.
Originally Posted by heavywalker
Originally Posted by djs
Beginning of the end of the pandemic???

A check of the Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map (note trend-line in lower right corner) doesn't seem to indicate this.

see: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


I know you are a mental midget and slow as f uck, but the reason this is an alarming pandemic is because there, up to this point has not been a sufficient treatment to battle the illness. If said treatment is developed, the severity of the illness would be reduced such that we could resume our daily lives. Try to keep up.


He could learn some things from your schiett, HW, because he's dumber than it.
Originally Posted by ironbender
BMI is bullshit, IMO.


Exactly
I had to look up my BMI after reading this thread. From my last physical from August, my BMI was 30.6. 2018 it was 30.2 and 30.1 in 2016. These reports say normal should be between 18.5 to 25. My doctor always tells me to lose weight, but he always says that. He wants me to be around 175 pounds, which is what I weighed in high school. I'd like to think that I'm in pretty good shape for a 59 year old, but I do have a beer gut. I've been 6 ft. and 215 pounds for the past 25 years, but my BMI keeps going up. The muscle is going down and the fat is going up. That means my 6 pack is turning into a keg. Probably wouldn't hurt to lose a few pounds.
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
That means my 6 pack is turning into a keg.
laffin’
At 6'5'' I'm at 26.2 BMI.

I saw this interview last night and posted on it.
Count me among the convinced.

Facts don't lie. He's lost no patients within BMI parameters when using Hydroxi.
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.


What are the numbers? Seems pretty hard to find anything reliable, but from what I've seen it appears that deaths in the age groups from 20-50 years old make up only a few percent of deaths. Also, comorbidities probably account for a fair share of those. It's not a virus that affects only the old and otherwise compromised, but that is certainly the vast majority of deaths, so far as I can tell.
I read last week the Israel gave the malaria drug to their entire population sent the US 6 million doses.
If you are going to play with numbers better learn how. You can run from BMI, but for how long?
Lets all pray he's right and we can put this thing to an early end.
Originally Posted by ironbender
BMI is bullshit, IMO.

Well, forget BMI then. Remove it from the equation and just run with the success that's being shown in the test.
I'm not fat, I've just overachieved my BMI number. smile
Originally Posted by djs
According to Google:

"What is the average BMI for a woman?
"The BMI of the average woman in the U.S. is 29.6, which falls into the category of “overweight.”

Not saying what''s good or bad in the case of Corona virus, but we are an overweight nation.

Yeah. Thank McDonalds .😆😂
BMI is a horrible metric.
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.

I was thinking about this today. What are the demographics or any related info for the US deceased population( from covid 19)?
Its dangerous for everyone...Honestly I don't know if anything else matters. Lets hope this gets under control fast
Originally Posted by xxclaro
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.
It's not a virus that affects only the old and otherwise compromised...
Clearly.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by djs
According to Google:

"What is the average BMI for a woman?
"The BMI of the average woman in the U.S. is 29.6, which falls into the category of “overweight.”

Not saying what''s good or bad in the case of Corona virus, but we are an overweight nation.

Yeah. Thank McDonalds .😆😂
And dimocraps getting welfare to cover donuts and such.
Originally Posted by hanco
I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!


Well, invite the neighbor's wife over.
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
BMI is a horrible metric.



No, its not a great metric. It doesn't calculate lean body mass in those that exercise and/or do restensce training and have more LBM than the average. The point is that obese people are really suffering severely if stricken with the virus. A man with a waist bigger than chest and a double/triple chin and pre-diabetic or with diabetes is going to have a rough time according this guy.
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
BMI is a horrible metric.



No, its not a great metric. It doesn't calculate lean body mass in those that exercise and/or do restensce training and have more LBM than the average. The point is that obese people are really suffering severely if stricken with the virus. A man with a waist bigger than chest and a double/triple chin and pre-diabetic or with diabetes is going to have a rough time according this guy.


That same guy is going to have a rough time in any other situation. Life choices!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.

I was thinking about this today. What are the demographics or any related info for the US deceased population( from covid 19)?

Using numbers from the NYC Dept of Health website:

22% of the known Covid 19 cases are in those 65 and over. That same age group accounts for 69% of the deaths (if I did the math right). Still pretty early on.

+1 to whoever said the stats won't matter much if you or one of your family happens to be killed by it. Over or under 65.
once i lost 35 lbs went to the doc, later checked my record and i'm still obese WTH
I don't know the exact number, but my doctor friend said all of their patients had been given the same medication as soon as or even before they were diagnosed. Some have died.
I was told by a doctor at age 35 I was over weight. I was 6 feet tall and weighed 220. When I was playing sports I was 6 feet tall and weighed 210. I just told the Doc hey man I'm good with it.
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by xxclaro
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.
It's not a virus that affects only the old and otherwise compromised...
Clearly.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.


The numbers are always relevant, regardless of your personal feelings. I'd say at this point if you are old and frail and you have young healthy family members or friends, perhaps they should be the ones to go out and do any essential tasks that require leaving the home. You have to assess your risk factors and make decisions based on that. If you are old,fat and sick but live in an area with large numbers of infection, you will probably want to take extra precautions compared to someone who is young and healthy living in an area with zero of very few cases.
I recall taking a health test as part of our company medical insurance package. I was given a BMI measurement by a gal who could hardly fit through a 30" door. I found it rich she informed me I needed to lose weight because my BMI was over 30.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by xxclaro
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.
It's not a virus that affects only the old and otherwise compromised...
Clearly.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.


The numbers are always relevant, regardless of your personal feelings. I'd say at this point if you are old and frail and you have young healthy family members or friends, perhaps they should be the ones to go out and do any essential tasks that require leaving the home. You have to assess your risk factors and make decisions based on that. If you are old,fat and sick but live in an area with large numbers of infection, you will probably want to take extra precautions compared to someone who is young and healthy living in an area with zero of very few cases.

Agreed.

I was going to add that the numbers are not about who is right and who is wrong. They are about everyone being able to assess their own personal risk in a situation like this. Each person should form their own opinion after that. You can spin the numbers anyway you want.
Originally Posted by ironbender
BMI is bullshit, IMO.


Agreed. At 5-8 and 165 lbs I’m overweight with a BMI of 25.1
Originally Posted by hanco
I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!


Never watch porn and eat Cheetos at the same time. It’s a dead giveaway.
Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Originally Posted by hanco
I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!


Never watch porn and eat Cheetos at the same time. It’s a dead giveaway.

😂🤣
About 6ft and 195 soaking wet.
Need to lose 10
Creeping up on 60.

The ol lady is 5' 4" and 62, Used to be 95#
Is 115 now.
Fuggin cow.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
The numbers are always relevant...
If you had a perfectly healthy 25 year old son or daughter and they died an awful death from Covid-19, I doubt very much that the numbers would be “relevant” to you at that point; despite your assertion.
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
The numbers are always relevant...
If you had a perfectly healthy 25 year old son or daughter and they died an awful death from Covid-19, I doubt very much that the numbers would be “relevant” to you at that point; despite your assertion.

That sounds terrible.
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by Stickfight
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Severely ill patients' average BMI 30.7


Wow.

Average BMI of US adult population hovers just under 30. 30.7 isn’t what many of us think of when we think *fat*.
5’10” and 215 pds is a BMI of 30.8 for reference.

I know if I hit 215 I'd be fat. When I hit 190 I'm fat. At 5/10. I prefer 180 and under... 175 is about ideal.
175 is where I should be but I just love being at 220...
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.


Was this taken from a Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence brochure? The wording is eerily similar. If only one life can be saved, then any measure to do so should be taken.

This is a ridiculous statement, it is so broad that it can be applied to anything. One could even use it to justify refusing any sort of vaccine which would be as problematic as the disease being fought. Sure, it can be devestating to lose a loved one but there is no guarantee that any one of use will see the next minute let alone tomorrow. In 33+ years in the EMS field, I've seen more "unfair" deaths than many here and long ago came to the conclusion life ain't fair and death is fickle.
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
The numbers are always relevant...
If you had a perfectly healthy 25 year old son or daughter and they died an awful death from Covid-19, I doubt very much that the numbers would be “relevant” to you at that point; despite your assertion.


If your son or daughter got killed in a car accident, would you wan't cars banned?
BMI is way off. At one point my BMI was 30ish and my percent bodyfat was around 16%.
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by woodmaster81
Was this taken from a Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence brochure? The wording is eerily similar. If only one life can be saved, then any measure to do so should be taken.
Originally Posted by antlers
That’s a very far reach; about as far as I’ve seen in a long time.
Originally Posted by woodmaster81
This is a ridiculous statement, it is so broad that it can be applied to anything.
Originally Posted by antlers
Except that it was a response to a ‘specific’ question made by a specific poster. More reaching.
Originally Posted by woodmaster81
Sure, it can be devestating to lose a loved one but there is no guarantee that any one of use will see the next minute let alone tomorrow.
Originally Posted by antlers
That’s likely well known by any adult with adequate cognition. Thanks for pointing out the obvious though.
Originally Posted by woodmaster81
In 33+ years in the EMS field, I've seen more "unfair" deaths than many here and long ago came to the conclusion life ain't fair and death is fickle.
Originally Posted by antlers
Awesome. 33 years myself as an ER nurse, flight nurse, and supervisor in a regional trauma and emergency center.

Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by Stickfight
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Severely ill patients' average BMI 30.7


Wow.

Average BMI of US adult population hovers just under 30. 30.7 isn’t what many of us think of when we think *fat*.
5’10” and 215 pds is a BMI of 30.8 for reference.

I know if I hit 215 I'd be fat. When I hit 190 I'm fat. At 5/10. I prefer 180 and under... 175 is about ideal.


At 5'11" I like to be between 170 and 175. I came in at 178 after dinner tonight. I need to pedal more and burn some fat.
Originally Posted by hookeye
About 6ft and 195 soaking wet.
Need to lose 10
Creeping up on 60.

The ol lady is 5' 4" and 62, Used to be 95#
Is 115 now.
Fuggin cow.


WTF, weren't you on here last year bitching about your "ol lady" cheating on you and you two were done? I'm pretty sure you posed a pic of her too and she is very pretty.

My gf is 61 and 5' 115 lbs and not fat at all, in fact she's pretty hot.

Maybe you should be a little nicer to her?
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
The numbers are always relevant...
If you had a perfectly healthy 25 year old son or daughter and they died an awful death from Covid-19, I doubt very much that the numbers would be “relevant” to you at that point; despite your assertion.


It doesn't matter how relevant the numbers are to me. I'm saying that the numbers matter,and should be paid attention to. Despite everything going on, life must be lived and you have to decide what risks you are/are not willing to take. Its not useful to say "the virus is dangerous to everyone". That may well be true, but its the same as saying "falling down is dangerous to everyone". Young healthy people may be injured from falling down, but is it the same risk as an 80 year old woman with osteoporosis falling down? Clearly not. So, if a ladder must be climbed, who should climb it? Ladders are inherently dangerous, maybe we just shouldn't let anyone use them? After all, if my healthy 25 year old child falls and is killed or paralyzed, the statistics regarding who is most likely to be injured in a fall would be irrelevant to me.
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