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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
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According to Google:

"What is the average BMI for a woman?
"The BMI of the average woman in the U.S. is 29.6, which falls into the category of “overweight.”

Not saying what''s good or bad in the case of Corona virus, but we are an overweight nation.

Yeah. Thank McDonalds .😆😂
And dimocraps getting welfare to cover donuts and such.


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Originally Posted by hanco
I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!


Well, invite the neighbor's wife over.

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
BMI is a horrible metric.



No, its not a great metric. It doesn't calculate lean body mass in those that exercise and/or do restensce training and have more LBM than the average. The point is that obese people are really suffering severely if stricken with the virus. A man with a waist bigger than chest and a double/triple chin and pre-diabetic or with diabetes is going to have a rough time according this guy.


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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
BMI is a horrible metric.



No, its not a great metric. It doesn't calculate lean body mass in those that exercise and/or do restensce training and have more LBM than the average. The point is that obese people are really suffering severely if stricken with the virus. A man with a waist bigger than chest and a double/triple chin and pre-diabetic or with diabetes is going to have a rough time according this guy.


That same guy is going to have a rough time in any other situation. Life choices!!!!!!!


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Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.

I was thinking about this today. What are the demographics or any related info for the US deceased population( from covid 19)?

Using numbers from the NYC Dept of Health website:

22% of the known Covid 19 cases are in those 65 and over. That same age group accounts for 69% of the deaths (if I did the math right). Still pretty early on.

+1 to whoever said the stats won't matter much if you or one of your family happens to be killed by it. Over or under 65.

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once i lost 35 lbs went to the doc, later checked my record and i'm still obese WTH


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I don't know the exact number, but my doctor friend said all of their patients had been given the same medication as soon as or even before they were diagnosed. Some have died.

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I was told by a doctor at age 35 I was over weight. I was 6 feet tall and weighed 220. When I was playing sports I was 6 feet tall and weighed 210. I just told the Doc hey man I'm good with it.


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Originally Posted by antlers
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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.
It's not a virus that affects only the old and otherwise compromised...
Clearly.
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What are the numbers?
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.


The numbers are always relevant, regardless of your personal feelings. I'd say at this point if you are old and frail and you have young healthy family members or friends, perhaps they should be the ones to go out and do any essential tasks that require leaving the home. You have to assess your risk factors and make decisions based on that. If you are old,fat and sick but live in an area with large numbers of infection, you will probably want to take extra precautions compared to someone who is young and healthy living in an area with zero of very few cases.

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I recall taking a health test as part of our company medical insurance package. I was given a BMI measurement by a gal who could hardly fit through a 30" door. I found it rich she informed me I needed to lose weight because my BMI was over 30.


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Originally Posted by xxclaro
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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Quite a few on the campfire want to believe every covid patient is old, sickly, fat, and of poor hygiene - not like “us.” The reality is that while those descriptors apply to many, there are enough people getting sick who have NONE of those preexisting conditions that it’s worth being moderately concerned about - and doing what you can do to prevent transmission.
Yep. The harsh reality of Covid-19: No one is immune from this disease, and even young, healthy people are being killed by it. And they are going down hard.
It's not a virus that affects only the old and otherwise compromised...
Clearly.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.


The numbers are always relevant, regardless of your personal feelings. I'd say at this point if you are old and frail and you have young healthy family members or friends, perhaps they should be the ones to go out and do any essential tasks that require leaving the home. You have to assess your risk factors and make decisions based on that. If you are old,fat and sick but live in an area with large numbers of infection, you will probably want to take extra precautions compared to someone who is young and healthy living in an area with zero of very few cases.

Agreed.

I was going to add that the numbers are not about who is right and who is wrong. They are about everyone being able to assess their own personal risk in a situation like this. Each person should form their own opinion after that. You can spin the numbers anyway you want.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
BMI is bullshit, IMO.


Agreed. At 5-8 and 165 lbs I’m overweight with a BMI of 25.1


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Originally Posted by hanco
I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!


Never watch porn and eat Cheetos at the same time. It’s a dead giveaway.

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I pray it’s true! I can’t watch porno on the big screen with wifey at home 24 hours a day!


Never watch porn and eat Cheetos at the same time. It’s a dead giveaway.

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About 6ft and 195 soaking wet.
Need to lose 10
Creeping up on 60.

The ol lady is 5' 4" and 62, Used to be 95#
Is 115 now.
Fuggin cow.

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Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
The numbers are always relevant...
If you had a perfectly healthy 25 year old son or daughter and they died an awful death from Covid-19, I doubt very much that the numbers would be “relevant” to you at that point; despite your assertion.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by xxclaro
What are the numbers?
Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by xxclaro
The numbers are always relevant...
If you had a perfectly healthy 25 year old son or daughter and they died an awful death from Covid-19, I doubt very much that the numbers would be “relevant” to you at that point; despite your assertion.

That sounds terrible.


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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
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Severely ill patients' average BMI 30.7


Wow.

Average BMI of US adult population hovers just under 30. 30.7 isn’t what many of us think of when we think *fat*.
5’10” and 215 pds is a BMI of 30.8 for reference.

I know if I hit 215 I'd be fat. When I hit 190 I'm fat. At 5/10. I prefer 180 and under... 175 is about ideal.


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175 is where I should be but I just love being at 220...


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Originally Posted by antlers
If you or one of your loved ones is one of the young, healthy people killed by it, then “what are the numbers” is irrelevant.


Was this taken from a Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence brochure? The wording is eerily similar. If only one life can be saved, then any measure to do so should be taken.

This is a ridiculous statement, it is so broad that it can be applied to anything. One could even use it to justify refusing any sort of vaccine which would be as problematic as the disease being fought. Sure, it can be devestating to lose a loved one but there is no guarantee that any one of use will see the next minute let alone tomorrow. In 33+ years in the EMS field, I've seen more "unfair" deaths than many here and long ago came to the conclusion life ain't fair and death is fickle.

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