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April 2, 2020

China Is Preparing to Start a War with America
By William L. Gensert

Sometime in June 2001, while browsing the Wall Street Journal, I stumbled upon an item on an inside page all the way at the
bottom. It was no more than 75 words in a box. It covered a CIA security announcement concerning an increase in internet and
cell phone traffic among suspected terrorists from suspect areas in the Arab world. I canceled a Fourth of July trip downtown
because of it.

I assumed that if an attack was coming, it would be on America's premium self-celebratory holiday, the Fourth of July.
When nothing happened, I took off my tinfoil hat, ascribing my worries to my suspicion of Islam — suspicions I had carefully
curated from prior events such as the first World Trade Center attack, the Cole, the embassy bombings, and the killing of Americans
soldiers in the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut.
It has become accepted knowledge that America's intelligence agencies missed 9/11 warning signs — but that's not entirely
true. Signs were seen, but they impelled no action. We were so convinced that the fall of the Soviet Union as the end of history

precluded any need for urgency. Yet, even if there had been, no one, at that point, knew how to react.
I don't think I need to remind everyone of what happened on 09/11/2001.
I share this vignette as a means of showing that there are always signs. We, for whatever reason, miss them, or we ignore them for
political purposes, or we refuse to believe them because they contradict the core tenets of our belief system.
I believe that China's actions today may be telegraphing an intent we are choosing to ignore. They show all the signs of a nation
preparing to attack America. China seeks a bespoke world run by China with "Chinese characteristics" — a dream that under
Trump was drifting away.
China appears to be laying the groundwork for a "justified" attack on the United States, perhaps in the South China Sea or perhaps
elsewhere. It will be a military attack, not an act of terrorism, and the excuse will be America's deliberate transmission of COVID19 in Wuhan.
When the Chinese became accusatory, it's telling that they didn't blame the CIA, always the usual suspect. No, they blamed it on
American soldiers.

American military deliberately infecting China is an act of war worthy of a military response.
In October, the 2019 World Military Games were held in Wuhan. Chinese media triumphantly trumpeted the Americans winning
just eight medals, while China won 239. It was then that we supposedly infected Wuhan citizens with the "American virus."
China is now defenestrating foreign media, sending home reporters from the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and Washington
Post at just the opportune moment. No nation wants journalists around when it is planning a sneak attack.
And with its economy ravaged by Trump's trade war and the virus shutdown, and now back at full production, while America's
economy is in total shutdown and in the grip of an active pandemic, there will never be a better time to attack.
Here in America, the Democrats along with corporate media eagerly buy China's lies surrounding the nascence of the worldwide
pandemic, the propaganda blaming America, the stories of Chinese benevolence, and the efficiency of Chinese methods in getting
control of the virus at home. They are actively supporting China's version of the truth. China has every reason to believe they will
continue to do so.
When or if China attacks, the left (the Dems, Antifa, and BLM) will flood the streets with anti-war protesters designed to stop
America from responding to China's attacks. After all, don't we deserve it? We elected Trump, didn't we?
China claims there are no new infections when there is ample evidence that that claim is a lie. But the Chinese know that by the
time people understand, it will be too late. They will have struck, and any new cases will be used to bolster their casus belli. Those

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Chinese who perish in the interim of silence will have died for the fatherland.
Conservative media have been neither as naïve nor as malicious as their mainstream brethren, often writing that China's behavior,
with the denials and accusations, is merely a clumsy and foolish attempt to convince the world.
I don't see it this way. I think China is doing this to convince its own citizens more than anyone else. The Chinese communists can
survive the world's condemnations, especially if they defeat America, but they live and die by controlling their own
population. When they attack an American naval ship in the South China Sea, they won't need to worry about the support of their
own nation because they will have convinced the people that America started the war and a peaceful and beneficent China was
reluctantly, and only as a last resort, defending itself.
China is facing a demographic time bomb and has ten years to rewrite the facts on the ground. It is facing a quandary of epic
proportions. It won't be long before it has the oldest population on the planet. Those people will be old before they are rich.
China's business model is existentially flawed. It has extraordinary debt that is multiples of its GDP, having grown exponentially
through government funding of empty cities, military buildup, high-speed rail to nowhere, a Belt and Road initiative that's
becoming obvious to partner countries as a means of colonialist extortion, and various other nonproductive government lending to
CCP members. Its vaunted reserves will soon disappear.
China is also a nation, thanks to the "one child" initiative, that has hundreds of millions of young men with no prospect of
marriage. Hundreds of millions of "incel" men make for either an angry and expendable fighting force or a bane upon society.
China is on the clock. Today, it is formidable, with a sophisticated and capable military. The Chinese may be able to win a
confrontation, even a war, with the United States. Under Obama's policy of surrender, China had a chance of overtaking us
economically while growing its military until its primacy was a fait accompli. But Trump killed that dream with his trade war,
exposing the inherent weaknesses of the Chinese economy. And should the aftermath of the pandemic play out without
interference, China's position in the world will be irreparably damaged.
What does China have to lose?
Time is not on China's side. Unless the Chinese destroy us on the field of battle soon, the clock will run out, and the dream of the
coming "Chinese century" will be just that: a dream.
Everything they are doing points to them preparing to do so.
For China, there will never be a better time to start a war with America.
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They have already "attacked" us, with their plague....!!!!
I read an opinion that Trump spooling up the military for an "assault on drug cartels" was more of a cover to be ready to counter an attack by Communist China... but then again you can read anything on the Internet???
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?


For once, you are right.
Yes...because they think they can.
Antelope sniper, I'm glad you seem mellow about the threat level..... but, well... they are Communists and Trump has been raining on their parade..... Communism has a long especially ugly history of being willing to do anything to hold onto/expand power... just saying...
Yes.
China’s goal is to enslave us, just like they have their own people.

While I can’t help but see our present play out on a movie screen, I’m not seeing how any of those scenarios get China closer to enslaving us.
Originally Posted by kingston
China’s goal is to enslave us, just like they have their own people.

While I can’t help but see our present play out on a movie screen, I’m not seeing how any of those scenarios get China closer to enslaving us.




Unless of course the current virus is just the vanguard.
Originally Posted by kingston
China’s goal is to enslave us, just like they have their own people.

While I can’t help but see our present play out on a movie screen, I’m not seeing how any of those scenarios get China closer to enslaving us.


Enslave the world. Can’t have 2 roosters in the same hen house.

Give them this; they’ve long had a China First Policy wheras we, here in the USA, only recently politically adopted that policy so long overdue. That’s rubbing a lot of asses plum raw in the international arena.
I think about how full on crazy the American Left went after Hillary's "Resist!" screech after things didn't go according to their plan.... they seem OK with a scorched earth operation somehow believing that their power will rise up out of the ashes...

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
I think about how full on crazy the American Left went after Hillary's "Resist!" screech after things didn't go according to their plan.... they seem OK with a scorched earth operation somehow believing that their power will rise up out of the ashes...


Maybe because they’ve been around for 3500 years or so.
I think its pretty obvious to most anyone this chit started in their back yard.... has been documented in 2007, maybe as early as 2003. They are keeping a lid on it now, well because they can and because they are terrified what will happen to them when the civilized world comes to their senses and quits buying goods from a communist country
I hope so, the whole world would join up and pound them back to the stone age.
Well, the good news is that I’m pretty sure canned sunshine is effective in killing the corona virus.
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
I read an opinion that Trump spooling up the military for an "assault on drug cartels" was more of a cover to be ready to counter an attack by Communist China... but then again you can read anything on the Internet???


..and to lock down Venezuela’s oil resources.
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.


Unless you want his house.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Yes...because they think they can.


I agree, and would add they likely think they can win.

Geno
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by kingston
China’s goal is to enslave us, just like they have their own people.

While I can’t help but see our present play out on a movie screen, I’m not seeing how any of those scenarios get China closer to enslaving us.




Unless of course the current virus is just the vanguard.


Exactly, in my metaphor the virus is act 1. Seeing us rush around to muster planes full of Chinese made medical supplies. Scuttling them back in a matter of hours, instead of weeks, while bypassing customs, would be act 2.

Who makes Hydroxychloroquine?

Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.


Unless you want his house.


I was referring to a parasite.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.


Unless you want his house.


I was referring to a parasite.




If you lot remember the Japanese felt they had to commit to war when they felt shit upon...this may be the Chinese turn.
Right now, I'm more concerned with democrats than the Chinese.
How difficult is it to learn to speak Chinese?

Europe and then the US didn’t like the idea of speaking German either...

😎
Originally Posted by Beaver10
How difficult is it to learn to speak Chinese?

Europe and then the US didn’t like the idea of speaking German either...

😎


Dude, did you know "Ma" can be pronounced with like three different inflections and mean three different things?

Americans can't even agree on the pronunciation of "Caribbean"

Chinese............NFW.

Geno
Yep, toss 'em some offsetting tariffs, call them out for stealing technology and yes, maybe that's their idea of being [bleep] on.

There's a lot of other countries that dont appreciate the pox going on right now. Im sure they all hate our guts, but biological warfare fans end at the third world regime level.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.


Unless you want his house.


I was referring to a parasite.


Not to be too picky, but just to be a pain in your side.


For some parasites with multiple hosts, it is sometimes necessary to kill a host or two in order to get into the definitive host.

Geno

PS..........I'm not a parasitologist, I just spent the night home, not in a Holiday Inn.

PPS.....well, I kinda used to be a sort of parasitologist. But not any more, I'm retired and that was a long time ago.
They wrote about their ideas 20 years ago in this book:

https://www.oodaloop.com/documents/unrestricted.pdf
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.


Unless you want his house.


I was referring to a parasite.


Not to be too picky, but just to be a pain in your side.


For some parasites with multiple hosts, it is sometimes necessary to kill a host or two in order to get into the definitive host.

Geno

PS..........I'm not a parasitologist, I just spent the night home, not in a Holiday Inn.

PPS.....well, I kinda used to be a sort of parasitologist. But not any more, I'm retired and that was a long time ago.


Creepy...The things you know...😬😎
It’s never a good idea to kill the definitive host.
Wish they try. It's an old score time to settle...
Originally Posted by g5m
They wrote about their ideas 20 years ago in this book:

https://www.oodaloop.com/documents/unrestricted.pdf


Cool

I give it a read.
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Wish they try. It's an old score time to settle...



I would prefer they did not as I kind of like the people I know and would rather they stay alive and well.

Now if China suddenly decided to take over North Korea or Zimbabwe I wouldn't lose a single moments sleep.
It’
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s never a good plan to kill the host
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Some interest or domination of half the planet. Yeah; tough choice
Originally Posted by kingston
It’s never a good idea to kill the definitive host.




Better grasshopper, much better.

Geno
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.


Unless you want his house.


I was referring to a parasite.


Not to be too picky, but just to be a pain in your side.


For some parasites with multiple hosts, it is sometimes necessary to kill a host or two in order to get into the definitive host.

Geno

PS..........I'm not a parasitologist, I just spent the night home, not in a Holiday Inn.

PPS.....well, I kinda used to be a sort of parasitologist. But not any more, I'm retired and that was a long time ago.


Creepy...The things you know...😬😎


What's even creepier is the things I will eat............with gusto!

Geno
When’s the last time China was at war? The US has been at war for almost two decades.
Originally Posted by Valsdad


What's even creepier is the things I will eat............with gusto!

Geno


This, from Mr. Riunite.
Originally Posted by kingston
When’s the last time China was at war? The US have been at war for almost two decades.


It is not about how effective they are, it is about whether they are stupidly going to start things off.

Hopefully not...but I would not put it past them as they do get their collective nose out of joint very easily.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Valsdad


What's even creepier is the things I will eat............with gusto!

Geno


This, from Mr. Riunite.


Nothing like raw shellfish, regular fish, or meat served with a really tasty red!

Geno
Originally Posted by JSTUART

If you lot remember the Japanese felt they had to commit to war when they felt shit upon...this may be the Chinese turn.


Do the Chinese suffer narcissistic injury in the same way as the Japanese?
Originally Posted by kingston
It’s never a good idea to kill the definitive host.



Bleeding us out from a thousand cuts has been their agenda. War? Unlikely, unless we decided to break from China like we did England.

But the damage isn’t scalable for either one. Politics is the game or pandemic as a means of population reduction and financial ruin of an economy...

But, the world is the loser should China and US tank each other....Dark times.

😎
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JSTUART

If you lot remember the Japanese felt they had to commit to war when they felt shit upon...this may be the Chinese turn.


Do the Chinese suffer narcissistic injury in the same way as the Japanese?



Pretty sure they are arrogant enough to take offence at any perceived slight...hang about near Chinese for a bit and you will work out very quickly that they view everyone else as being beneath them.

And face has particular relevance for Easterners.
Originally Posted by kingston
When’s the last time China was at war? The US have been at war for almost two decades.



What does that have to do with the price of rice? I guess theyre building a massive military to pass the time of day?
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by kingston
When’s the last time China was at war? The US have been at war for almost two decades.


It is not about how effective they are, it is about whether they are stupidly going to start things off.

Hopefully not...but I would not put it past them as they do get their collective nose out of joint very easily.



That certainly seems the case. It’s like there’s a persistence in large numbers.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Originally Posted by kingston
When’s the last time China was at war? The US have been at war for almost two decades.



What does that have to do with the price of rice? I guess theyre building a massive military to pass the time of day?


Engrish peas.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JSTUART

If you lot remember the Japanese felt they had to commit to war when they felt shit upon...this may be the Chinese turn.


Do the Chinese suffer narcissistic injury in the same way as the Japanese?



Pretty sure they are arrogant enough to take offence at any perceived slight...hang about near Chinese for a bit and you will work out very quickly that they view everyone else as being beneath them.

And face has particular relevance for Easterners.


I guess I always chalked it up to a Napoleonic Complex.
Originally Posted by kingston
It’s never a good idea to kill the definitive host.



I wasn’t talking about a symbiotic relationship, either.
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Engrish peas.




Epstein didn't kill himself
Add "overtly" to "covertly" and maybe "inadvertently" ??
China is known for their use of "soft power" They buy influence (American politicians, universities, media, Hollywood...) and then manipulate toward their long term goals.... there has been a serious loss of pigs over there (think another strain of virus?) so if you can't get local pork and you are having second thoughts about eating bats.... you have hungry people.... a lot of them...

Factor in long term Communist mismanagement of resources big demographic changes hungry people and the ruling powers might start to rethink that whole patient plan to grab power and resources....
If they're really smart they'll realize the whole fuggin world ain't feeling too fond of chinks right about now and lay as low as they can.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
If they're really smart they'll realize the whole fuggin world ain't feeling too fond of chinks right about now and lay as low as they can.


Thinking many nations have their own immediate problems to deal with and we don’t have too many dependable allies. We never did.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Blackheart
If they're really smart they'll realize the whole fuggin world ain't feeling too fond of chinks right about now and lay as low as they can.


Thinking many nations have their own immediate problems to deal with and we don’t have too many dependable allies. We never did.


The French, once...Then never again. 😎
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Blackheart
If they're really smart they'll realize the whole fuggin world ain't feeling too fond of chinks right about now and lay as low as they can.


Thinking many nations have their own immediate problems to deal with and we don’t have too many dependable allies. We never did.


The French, once...Then never again. 😎


That’s about it. Maybe Taiwan out sheer desperation.

Israel is a toss up.
The chinese communist party needs to do something to maintain their tyrannical power and control. Many of their own are upset about how they handled the virus. Their economy and domination plans were set back when trump called them on their crap. They have a PR problem with much of the world right now too for the way they lied and tried to withhold information.

They need a way to save face and much like our own democrats wouldn't care less about killing millions of their own if it furthers their political agenda and gives them more power.

The communist party has starved to death millions of their own and murdered millions more through forced abortion. They think much more of their ethnic own than they do us.

I believe satan is a communist and is actively inspiring his communist minions around the world to perpetuate pain and and suffering in any way they can. He uses greed and a lust for power to drive people to tyranny and oppression. He's all about the collective never about individuals. They get their inspiration from him so never underestimate the evil they're capable of.

Bb
Originally Posted by johnn
I think its pretty obvious to most anyone this chit started in their back yard.... has been documented in 2007, maybe as early as 2003. They are keeping a lid on it now, well because they can and because they are terrified what will happen to them when the civilized world comes to their senses and quits buying goods from a communist country

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This needs to happen immediately!!!!
We've been so worried about the sand crab muzzies that are over here while those folks have been inconspicuously swarming the entire country with unfettered travel back and forth.
What does Bristoe say about it 😆
Well one should never ever forget that they view anyone who is not chinese as a subhuman barbarian. Yeah they do. MB
Originally Posted by vapodog
Right now, I'm more concerned with democrats than the Chinese.



Yep. That's the immediate enemy threat right now.




Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Wish they try. It's an old score time to settle...



I would prefer they did not as I kind of like the people I know and would rather they stay alive and well.

Now if China suddenly decided to take over North Korea or Zimbabwe I wouldn't lose a single moments sleep.



I agree. I like the Chinese people too. It's the communists of any stripe that I hate.

China is actually quietly colonizing a few African nations. Which is going to be an improvement down the road for the countries they take over, but I'm pretty sure they are there for the resources and lands.


Migration Policy.Org

QZ.com

China Daily.Com



Originally Posted by Burleyboy
The chinese communist party needs to do something to maintain their tyrannical power and control. Many of their own are upset about how they handled the virus. Their economy and domination plans were set back when trump called them on their crap. They have a PR problem with much of the world right now too for the way they lied and tried to withhold information.

They need a way to save face and much like our own democrats wouldn't care less about killing millions of their own if it furthers their political agenda and gives them more power.

The communist party has starved to death millions of their own and murdered millions more through forced abortion. They think much more of their ethnic own than they do us.

I believe satan is a communist and is actively inspiring his communist minions around the world to perpetuate pain and and suffering in any way they can. He uses greed and a lust for power to drive people to tyranny and oppression. He's all about the collective never about individuals. They get their inspiration from him so never underestimate the evil they're capable of.

Bb



Don't forget the recent happenings in Hong Kong that have been drowned out by the Wuhan Plague.

I agree with the satan and communist comment. Communism and socialism are true evils that must be killed.
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
Antelope sniper, I'm glad you seem mellow about the threat level..... but, well... they are Communists and Trump has been raining on their parade..... Communism has a long especially ugly history of being willing to do anything to hold onto/expand power... just saying...



^^^^THIS^^^^
My uncle was in the military during the Vietnam era, active duty. He said it was common knowledge in that time that we didn't have enough bullets to kill all the Chinese soldiers. So what's that leave us with? Nukes? God help us if that ever starts.

Russia would be a game changer in any conflict with China. They hate the Chinese but they are communist too. The only way they'd side with us is if they thought they could cut China up the same way they did Europe after WWII. If it were up to me I would not count on anyone other than Israel for help.

There was a saying when I was growing up in the 60s and to some extent the 70s. I'd rather be dead than red. I feel the same way. We're an armed nation as God and our great founding fathers intended. Ronald Reagan said that the USA was the last great hope for mankind on the face of the earth. We may have our differences of opinion on here but I bet if we get attacked as a nation we'll come together and fight with as much vigor as those brave souls of our past.

Also never forget history, my friends. The Japanese were prepping for war with us even before WWI. Back then they were buying all the scrap metal they could to build a military. Remember the Chinese buying it all up recently? The Japanese spied on us in so many ways preparing and studying us. They thought we were weak and cowardly. Do you think China might feel the same as they did then? History repeats itself. This virus is akin the the Trojan Horse!
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?
No
In my opinion, I think this virus was being developed in China to use against its enemies. It prematurely escaped the lab and created havoc. Doing so, it awakened the United States that being dependent on China for critical national defense items is a mistake.

Companies of all sorts are now shifting production. The Chinese now have lost the element of surprise in this part of the war. Much of the US media is complicit in its support for the communists and their narrative.

Time will tell when more facts emerge from sources within Communist China regarding actual death and infection rates. In the meantime, stay safe and well everyone.
Well, they've got massive anti-body resistance and we don't, so...
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the whole world would join up

i don 't believe that for a second
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by watch4bear

Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?




What would you want ; interest payments, or the richest country on earth?


It’s never a good plan to kill the host.



Well, the plan is to destroy the means of production and then..........uuuhhhhhh............yep
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
Antelope sniper, I'm glad you seem mellow about the threat level..... but, well... they are Communists and Trump has been raining on their parade..... Communism has a long especially ugly history of being willing to do anything to hold onto/expand power... just saying...



Something like the current crop of House democrats ? They will do anything to hold onto power and control. How do we know they are not in cahoots with China ? Just speculating.

kwg
As stated on here earlier I’m more afraid of the Dems than China. We can kill the Chinese but it’s still illegal to kill the Dems. Ed k
The dems are in cahoots with china. They get payoffs campaign money. The are an arm of the commies. I heard this about china going to try an attack on an American ship ,over a month ago. This virus is a way to crash our economy and it is working. Trump has put the hurt on Chi-coms bad. They want him gone bad . I do think they are prepared for a conflict.
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?


Free milk and a cow.
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


A silly question.
Good grief. China won't attack us. They will be much better off owning us economically. Just look at how Germany "owns" Europe now. Hitler's approach was not necessary and ended up hurting Germany.

I've been preaching for DECADES that we should not allow our manufacturing infrastructure to be owned by China, including buying anything more strategic than Nike sneakers there, and allowing them to steal our secrets. Trump "gets" it. If he did nothing else, that would be a geat contribution to Ameria.
Originally Posted by 2ndwind

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April 2, 2020

China Is Preparing to Start a War with America
By William L. Gensert

Sometime in June 2001, while browsing the Wall Street Journal, I stumbled upon an item on an inside page all the way at the
bottom. It was no more than 75 words in a box. It covered a CIA security announcement concerning an increase in internet and
cell phone traffic among suspected terrorists from suspect areas in the Arab world. I canceled a Fourth of July trip downtown
because of it.

I assumed that if an attack was coming, it would be on America's premium self-celebratory holiday, the Fourth of July.
When nothing happened, I took off my tinfoil hat, ascribing my worries to my suspicion of Islam — suspicions I had carefully
curated from prior events such as the first World Trade Center attack, the Cole, the embassy bombings, and the killing of Americans
soldiers in the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut.
It has become accepted knowledge that America's intelligence agencies missed 9/11 warning signs — but that's not entirely
true. Signs were seen, but they impelled no action. We were so convinced that the fall of the Soviet Union as the end of history

precluded any need for urgency. Yet, even if there had been, no one, at that point, knew how to react.
I don't think I need to remind everyone of what happened on 09/11/2001.
I share this vignette as a means of showing that there are always signs. We, for whatever reason, miss them, or we ignore them for
political purposes, or we refuse to believe them because they contradict the core tenets of our belief system.
I believe that China's actions today may be telegraphing an intent we are choosing to ignore. They show all the signs of a nation
preparing to attack America. China seeks a bespoke world run by China with "Chinese characteristics" — a dream that under
Trump was drifting away.
China appears to be laying the groundwork for a "justified" attack on the United States, perhaps in the South China Sea or perhaps
elsewhere. It will be a military attack, not an act of terrorism, and the excuse will be America's deliberate transmission of COVID19 in Wuhan.
When the Chinese became accusatory, it's telling that they didn't blame the CIA, always the usual suspect. No, they blamed it on
American soldiers.

American military deliberately infecting China is an act of war worthy of a military response.
In October, the 2019 World Military Games were held in Wuhan. Chinese media triumphantly trumpeted the Americans winning
just eight medals, while China won 239. It was then that we supposedly infected Wuhan citizens with the "American virus."
China is now defenestrating foreign media, sending home reporters from the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and Washington
Post at just the opportune moment. No nation wants journalists around when it is planning a sneak attack.
And with its economy ravaged by Trump's trade war and the virus shutdown, and now back at full production, while America's
economy is in total shutdown and in the grip of an active pandemic, there will never be a better time to attack.
Here in America, the Democrats along with corporate media eagerly buy China's lies surrounding the nascence of the worldwide
pandemic, the propaganda blaming America, the stories of Chinese benevolence, and the efficiency of Chinese methods in getting
control of the virus at home. They are actively supporting China's version of the truth. China has every reason to believe they will
continue to do so.
When or if China attacks, the left (the Dems, Antifa, and BLM) will flood the streets with anti-war protesters designed to stop
America from responding to China's attacks. After all, don't we deserve it? We elected Trump, didn't we?
China claims there are no new infections when there is ample evidence that that claim is a lie. But the Chinese know that by the
time people understand, it will be too late. They will have struck, and any new cases will be used to bolster their casus belli. Those

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Chinese who perish in the interim of silence will have died for the fatherland.
Conservative media have been neither as naïve nor as malicious as their mainstream brethren, often writing that China's behavior,
with the denials and accusations, is merely a clumsy and foolish attempt to convince the world.
I don't see it this way. I think China is doing this to convince its own citizens more than anyone else. The Chinese communists can
survive the world's condemnations, especially if they defeat America, but they live and die by controlling their own
population. When they attack an American naval ship in the South China Sea, they won't need to worry about the support of their
own nation because they will have convinced the people that America started the war and a peaceful and beneficent China was
reluctantly, and only as a last resort, defending itself.
China is facing a demographic time bomb and has ten years to rewrite the facts on the ground. It is facing a quandary of epic
proportions. It won't be long before it has the oldest population on the planet. Those people will be old before they are rich.
China's business model is existentially flawed. It has extraordinary debt that is multiples of its GDP, having grown exponentially
through government funding of empty cities, military buildup, high-speed rail to nowhere, a Belt and Road initiative that's
becoming obvious to partner countries as a means of colonialist extortion, and various other nonproductive government lending to
CCP members. Its vaunted reserves will soon disappear.
China is also a nation, thanks to the "one child" initiative, that has hundreds of millions of young men with no prospect of
marriage. Hundreds of millions of "incel" men make for either an angry and expendable fighting force or a bane upon society.
China is on the clock. Today, it is formidable, with a sophisticated and capable military. The Chinese may be able to win a
confrontation, even a war, with the United States. Under Obama's policy of surrender, China had a chance of overtaking us
economically while growing its military until its primacy was a fait accompli. But Trump killed that dream with his trade war,
exposing the inherent weaknesses of the Chinese economy. And should the aftermath of the pandemic play out without
interference, China's position in the world will be irreparably damaged.
What does China have to lose?
Time is not on China's side. Unless the Chinese destroy us on the field of battle soon, the clock will run out, and the dream of the
coming "Chinese century" will be just that: a dream.
Everything they are doing points to them preparing to do so.
For China, there will never be a better time to start a war with America.
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No, but they are scoring major victories on the PR front. For example sending medical supplies to the EU and other countries that need them. Due to steps they have taken they will also recover sooner then Western Democratic countries.
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.
Originally Posted by Dess
In my opinion, I think this virus was being developed in China to use against its enemies. It prematurely escaped the lab and created havoc. Doing so, it awakened the United States that being dependent on China for critical national defense items is a mistake.

Companies of all sorts are now shifting production. The Chinese now have lost the element of surprise in this part of the war. Much of the US media is complicit in its support for the communists and their narrative.

Time will tell when more facts emerge from sources within Communist China regarding actual death and infection rates. In the meantime, stay safe and well everyone.

Think bats & anteaters, i know they had a biolab in wuhan, but this dates back and was predicted in 2007, possibly earlier.
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?


Certainly agree with this statement. Trade and economic prosperity has pretty much eliminated the threat of European wars and historically warring nations have become more and more dependent on each other.
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?


Certainly agree with this statement. Trade and economic prosperity has pretty much eliminated the threat of European wars and historically warring nations have become more and more dependent on each other.


Didnt you agree with Bro Zero on fundamentally changing what he called the greatest country on earth?
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?


Certainly agree with this statement. Trade and economic prosperity has pretty much eliminated the threat of European wars and historically warring nations have become more and more dependent on each other.


Do you know what "fundamentally change" means, dumb Jack Schiett?

Do you know what the fundamentals of this country are?
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
no because we keep china's economy running. They own lots of our debt. why would they mess with the hand that feeds them?


Free milk and a cow.


China owns about $2 trillion of our debt. AFAIC, for sticking us with this crap they are in debt to us by the tune of about $2 trillion after they write our debt to them off.
Originally Posted by Slavek

No, but they [China] are scoring major victories on the PR front. For example sending medical supplies to the EU and other countries that need them. Due to steps they have taken they will also recover sooner then Western Democratic countries.


First China sends the disease, then they send the cure?

That’s one helluva PR campaign.

If you’ll remember, in the case of the US, they turned their ships around back in early March. Those supplies would have been arriving right about now.

Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.



I didn’t say anything about them being against us or on our side. I simply asked what they would be able to bring to the table in a confrontation between China and the US. If your answer is peace of mind because having them as an ally fulfils what you believe, fair enough. I was more interested in what they would contribute militarily, financially, or with intelligence.
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


A silly question.



Jim1611 was saying that Israel would be the only ally we could count on in a major war with China. Asking him what he thought their contribution to the war effort would entail seems like a valid question to me.
So three 2 term presidents could not see the damage of continuing relations with China but a lowly businessman did? Clinton Armed them, Bush Played Dumb and Obongo almost had us sign the TPP. What does that say about those 3 clowns?

Something is up , don't know quite it is but the outcome will not be good for this "trading partner".
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Wish they try. It's an old score time to settle...



I would prefer they did not as I kind of like the people I know and would rather they stay alive and well.

Now if China suddenly decided to take over North Korea or Zimbabwe I wouldn't lose a single moments sleep.


NK is an extension of China, they are working on the Zimbabwe part as I type.
They covertly have been waging economic war on us it since Nixon.
The plan started before and during the much publicized visit.
The chinese think long term 10 25 50 100 yrs in advance.
Our policies change every 4 to 8 yrs....
They overtly do it with Liberal Socialist Democrats in power even more so.
This virus was created and released in response to a strong President to show the world how dependant we are on them in a
"Covert" way.
They had previous flu strain work to expand on.....
The chinese casualties long ago and during this have been their petri dish.
A drop in the bucket to them population wise.
They probably gave the vacine for it to their military and party types long ago.


My continuing kook of the day theory I have been posting for awhile.
If it were not for an artificially devalued currency,greed from US corporations egged on by Politicians,Lobbyists China would be still in the dark ages with their MAO inspired economy. We created their economy we can take it away.
Even a missle operator with the flu can push the lauch button. Nuke their sorry asses and kill the next virus at the same time.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Even a missle operator with the flu can push the lauch button. Nuke their sorry asses and kill the next virus at the same time.

That'll work great here too.

Especially since their nukes will hit NYC, All the Eastern seaboard, every port on the west coast, and anywhere in flyover country with a military base.

perfect, all the hotspots for The Corona will get wiped here, and any reservoir of new viruses too.

Geno
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


A silly question.



Jim1611 was saying that Israel would be the only ally we could count on in a major war with China. Asking him what he thought their contribution to the war effort would entail seems like a valid question to me.


If we look at them historically they have had some great military success against many nations that are larger than they are. So how do they do that? That leads me to believe they are doing something right. Being where they are might be a help too. But I go back to what matters most to me and that's what God has done for them and promised to do. So it boils down to this, for me, do I want an ally that is known to be God's chosen people or not. Easy answer for me.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
If we look at them historically they have had some great military success against many nations that are larger than they are. So how do they do that? That leads me to believe they are doing something right. Being where they are might be a help too. But I go back to what matters most to me and that's what God has done for them and promised to do. So it boils down to this, for me, do I want an ally that is known to be God's chosen people or not. Easy answer for me.


With God's chosen people and an angry Leprechaun on our side we would be invincible.
There is not one thing that is going to stop the bastards from generating a new virus next year. Whether in their labs or by eating rotten vulture livers.
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.



I didn’t say anything about them being against us or on our side. I simply asked what they would be able to bring to the table in a confrontation between China and the US. If your answer is peace of mind because having them as an ally fulfils what you believe, fair enough. I was more interested in what they would contribute militarily, financially, or with intelligence.


Nukes and Intelligence.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.



I didn’t say anything about them being against us or on our side. I simply asked what they would be able to bring to the table in a confrontation between China and the US. If your answer is peace of mind because having them as an ally fulfils what you believe, fair enough. I was more interested in what they would contribute militarily, financially, or with intelligence.


Nukes and Intelligence.


...and hutzpah.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
If it were not for an artificially devalued currency,greed from US corporations egged on by Politicians,Lobbyists China would be still in the dark ages with their MAO inspired economy. We created their economy we can take it away.


We can dent it badly but their tendons are very worldwide and entrenched deeply all over the world.

Economically cripple them? Yes.
Sink them? No.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.



I didn’t say anything about them being against us or on our side. I simply asked what they would be able to bring to the table in a confrontation between China and the US. If your answer is peace of mind because having them as an ally fulfils what you believe, fair enough. I was more interested in what they would contribute militarily, financially, or with intelligence.


Nukes and Intelligence.


...and hutzpah.



Yessir, lots of that. Beau coup in fact.
...and hutzpah.

Is that troll talk or something new?
Originally Posted by Jim1611
...and hutzpah.

Is that troll talk or something new?


Troll ?

And how many posts do you have ?
Originally Posted by billhilly
Jim1611 was saying that Israel would be the only ally we could count on in a major war with China. Asking him what he thought their contribution to the war effort would entail seems like a valid question to me.
Australia has been on our side. Every time.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by billhilly
Jim1611 was saying that Israel would be the only ally we could count on in a major war with China. Asking him what he thought their contribution to the war effort would entail seems like a valid question to me.
Australia has been on our side. Every time.


So has Canada and New Zealand.

Remind me again of how large their standing armies and navys are ?

Throw in the United Kingdom, too.
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So has Canada and New Zealand.

Remind me again of how large their standing armies and navys are ?

Throw in the United Kingdom, too.




lend-lease?
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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So has Canada and New Zealand.

Remind me again of how large their standing armies and navys are ?

Throw in the United Kingdom, too.




lend-lease?


Yessir, Mr. Bear but moral support counts for something, I guess.
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Which Israel are you talking about? The Israel that sells our military technology to China??
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.


That was a promise made specifically to Abraham before he moved from and not Israel.

The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.
Who said that?
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.


That was a promise made specifically to Abraham before he moved from and not Israel.

The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.



Fair question.

Is “Palestine “ specifically mentioned in any version of the Bible ?
China may seem formidable but from their point of view they may feel surrounded. Russia, India, Japan, South Korea, Australia, U.S., Taiwan, the Philippines, even Vietnam wouldn't lift a finger to help them and might actually go against them. They all hate and fear China. China is in a demographic bind with a bunch of old people and not enough young women. We owe China a bunch of money I guess but they know all we have to do is create dollars and pay them off. Our nationalism is scaring them because we might finally be waking up to the fact that we better build our own stuff. Yes they are a nuclear power, but do you reckon they would try that with us and Russia looking down their throat. Their only friend is the super power North Korea.
Originally Posted by KenMi
There is not one thing that is going to stop the bastards from generating a new virus next year. Whether in their labs or by eating rotten vulture livers.





And this right here is the core of the problem.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.


That was a promise made specifically to Abraham before he moved from and not Israel.

The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.



Fair question.

Is “Palestine “ specifically mentioned in any version of the Bible ?



Palestine is/was a backwater Roman province. It doesn't need to be mentioned in the Bible. It's existence in antiquity is well established. By the time that St. Paul wrote his epistles, Israel as a nation hadn't existed for over 750 years.

Israel was created by God as a separate people who were supposed to be a light to the rest of that world and to establish a bloodline for the eventual incarnation of Christ. The Israel of the Bible is about the Kingdom of God. It was never about a place or political entity of Earth.

That said, the modern nation-state of Israel is a recognized country like any other in the world. But they ain't nuthin' special. The idea of modern day Israel being the same as the Israel of the Bible is a modern construct.



Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Which Israel are you talking about? The Israel that sells our military technology to China??



They've been known to do that in addition to spying on us.
Originally Posted by Hastings
China may seem formidable but from their point of view they may feel surrounded. Russia, India, Japan, South Korea, Australia, U.S., Taiwan, the Philippines, even Vietnam wouldn't lift a finger to help them and might actually go against them. They all hate and fear China. China is in a demographic bind with a bunch of old people and not enough young women. We owe China a bunch of money I guess but they know all we have to do is create dollars and pay them off. Our nationalism is scaring them because we might finally be waking up to the fact that we better build our own stuff. Yes they are a nuclear power, but do you reckon they would try that with us and Russia looking down their throat. Their only friend is the super power North Korea.


Good analogy but any nation with nukes and the capability to accurately deliver them is formidable. The last thing we’d want is a zero sum game of sorts.

We’re not exactly overflowing with capable friends and allies either.

Russia would seem to be a wild card.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.


That was a promise made specifically to Abraham before he moved from and not Israel.

The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.



Fair question.

Is “Palestine “ specifically mentioned in any version of the Bible ?



Palestine is/was a backwater Roman province. It doesn't need to be mentioned in the Bible. It's existence in antiquity is well established.

Israel was created by God as a separate people who were supposed to be a light to the rest of that world and to establish a bloodline for the eventual incarnation of Christ. The Israel of the Bible is about the Kingdom of God. It was never about a place or political entity of Earth.

That said, the modern nation-state of Israel is a recognized country like any other in the world. But they ain't nuthin' special.



Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Which Israel are you talking about? The Israel that sells our military technology to China??



They've been known to do that in addition to spying on us.


I did say ‘fair question ‘. I wasn’t asking you to defend any statement.

I’ve never seen Palestine mentioned in any Bible version that I can recall.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.


That was a promise made specifically to Abraham before he moved from and not Israel.

The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.



Fair question.

Is “Palestine “ specifically mentioned in any version of the Bible ?



Palestine is/was a backwater Roman province. It doesn't need to be mentioned in the Bible. It's existence in antiquity is well established.

Israel was created by God as a separate people who were supposed to be a light to the rest of that world and to establish a bloodline for the eventual incarnation of Christ. The Israel of the Bible is about the Kingdom of God. It was never about a place or political entity of Earth.

That said, the modern nation-state of Israel is a recognized country like any other in the world. But they ain't nuthin' special.



Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Which Israel are you talking about? The Israel that sells our military technology to China??



They've been known to do that in addition to spying on us.


I did say ‘fair question ‘. I wasn’t asking you to defend any statement.

I’ve never seen Palestine mentioned in any Bible version that I can recall.



I've always thought a fair question deserved a fair answer to the best of my knowledge.

Given the makeup of the New Testament and what it focuses upon, it wouldn't have been necessary to specifically mention Palestine unless that information in of of itself was pertinent to the subject matter. Remember that the books that comprise the NT was written to specific audiences of the time. They knew who and where they were.
Philistine = Palestine
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Would you rather they be against us? My thinking is based off how the Bible teaches that any nation that turns it's back on Israel will suffer the wrath of God. With that in mind I want them to be an ally.


That was a promise made specifically to Abraham before he moved from and not Israel.

The Israel of the Bible is the Church. Not the modern day nation-state of the same name in ancient Palestine.



Fair question.

Is “Palestine “ specifically mentioned in any version of the Bible ?



Palestine is/was a backwater Roman province. It doesn't need to be mentioned in the Bible. It's existence in antiquity is well established.

Israel was created by God as a separate people who were supposed to be a light to the rest of that world and to establish a bloodline for the eventual incarnation of Christ. The Israel of the Bible is about the Kingdom of God. It was never about a place or political entity of Earth.

That said, the modern nation-state of Israel is a recognized country like any other in the world. But they ain't nuthin' special.



Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by billhilly
What do you think Israel will be able to do to help us against the Chinese?


Which Israel are you talking about? The Israel that sells our military technology to China??



They've been known to do that in addition to spying on us.


I did say ‘fair question ‘. I wasn’t asking you to defend any statement.

I’ve never seen Palestine mentioned in any Bible version that I can recall.



I've always thought a fair question deserved a fair answer to the best of my knowledge.

Given the makeup of the New Testament and what it focuses upon, it wouldn't have been necessary to specifically mention Palestine unless that information in of of itself was pertinent to the subject matter. Remember that the books that comprise the NT was written to specific audiences of the time. They knew who and where they were.




Epistles to Ephesians, Corinthians, etc. but none to Palestinians.
Originally Posted by bowfisher
Philistine = Palestine


Okay. if you wish to continue believing that.
The miracle of the physical nation of Israel being resurrected in 1948 did not happen for no reason. New Testament interpretations not withstanding.
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NO!

They will not flash forth from the Heavens until they are in an unassailable position.

They will continue to attack us in the same manner that they have been for the past few years. They will steal technology. they will use Cyber attacks and theft. They will agitate in the South China Sea. They will keep up an insidious trade war. They will try to control critical resources globally. They will build their military. They will continue to buy our Prostitutes/Politicians. They will continue to buy our means of production. They will either go very broke (and they are close), or they will own us.

A shooting war with us is not the current strategy.
Originally Posted by WildWest
The dems are in cahoots with china. They get payoffs campaign money. The are an arm of the commies. I heard this about china going to try an attack on an American ship ,over a month ago. This virus is a way to crash our economy and it is working. Trump has put the hurt on Chi-coms bad. They want him gone bad . I do think they are prepared for a conflict.

More conspiracy BS, just what we need.
Originally Posted by g5m
They wrote about their ideas 20 years ago in this book:

https://www.oodaloop.com/documents/unrestricted.pdf


I don’t know if it’s the translation or what, but so far this book is borderline incoherent. The run on sentences are endless.
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