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When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.
Would be interesting indeed. I have refused the flu shots since the one in '76 made me sicker than a dog. If and when it comes, I'll be playing it by ear.
If it has that tracking device in it, I will pass for sure, if not I will probably pass then also.... we'll see
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.

Gates also said that he wants nanotechnology incorporated into the vaccine, permitting the medical establishment to remote monitor everyone who's had it, under the pretext of evaluating its effectiveness.

I think I'll be a free rider.
Far to early in development to even rationally and intelligently make a decision.

Maybe that’s just me.
Not I.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Far to early in development to even rationally and intelligently make a decision.

Maybe that’s just me.


Multiple vaccines in development. We still don't know which one(s) will be first to market.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Far to early in development to even rationally and intelligently make a decision.

Maybe that’s just me.

that is DEFIANTLY you!
smile
1) create problem (or capitalize on existing one)

2) offer solution (with desired string attached)

*agenda advanced
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.

Gates also said that he wants nanotechnology incorporated into the vaccine, permitting the medical establishment to remote monitor everyone who's had it, under the pretext of evaluating its effectiveness.

I think I'll be a free rider.


Not to mention additives that may enhance suseptability to mind control and reduced testosterone.

Strangely he predicted a pandemic a few years ago, owns a patent on a Corona virus and a huge stake in Pharma companies. whistle
Most of congress has stock in Pharma companies.
If liberals or government want it, I don't.
When i know they have a vaccine, I will make the decision then! As far as Bill Gates goes, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire! Socialist piece of schitt!!!
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Most of congress has stock in Pharma companies.



I have stock in Pharma. This is a non-issue.

I'll take a vaccine but not necessarily the first one tried. I remember smallpox and polio, and how measles messed people up.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



It might be required for school children, like smallpox and polio were and the newest required shots are now.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Most of congress has stock in Pharma companies.


Most workers with a 401k own stock in pharma companies.
Can we slip permanent birth control in any welfare recipients vaccine?
It's foolish to pass on safe and effective vaccination product.
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.
Originally Posted by jaguartx

Strangely he predicted a pandemic a few years ago, owns a patent on a Corona virus and a huge stake in Pharma companies. whistle

Gates is clearly hurting for cash. I’m certain he was behind this pandemic. The 15% decline in Microsoft is PENUTS compared to all that cash his foundation gonna make ...
Jackmountain: I am with you on the having never had a "flu shot" - but in this instance I am rather certain I will partake of it.
Main reason is age and this diseases ability to "knock off" older folks. I am 72. And, of course< I don't want to contract the disease let it incubate in me and then my "spreading it around to others".
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.


Nothing new.

Small pox, Polio ring a bell?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.


Only to buy or sell goods or services. frown
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.



They did that very thing with smallpox. It worked.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.

Gates also said that he wants nanotechnology incorporated into the vaccine, permitting the medical establishment to remote monitor everyone who's had it, under the pretext of evaluating its effectiveness.

I think I'll be a free rider.



I think we should chip Gates. See what he is up to all day.
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Only to buy or sell goods or services.



this
Originally Posted by Slavek
It's foolish to pass on safe and effective vaccination product.


"safe and effective". It seems to me that neither our government (or any other one) nor big pharma have the best track record when it comes to the well being of the general public.
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.



They did that very thing with smallpox. It worked.


How long was the country shut down then?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.


Some who swallow the Govt BS cant figure our they can inject you with more than it takes to prevent polio or smallpox.

The new TV that listens to me and talks back is not the same as my Grandads TV. Neither is my phone. whistle
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



Why would everyone on Earth have to take a vaccine? If one doesn’t take a Polio vaccine then gets Polio, how would that effect those who do take the vaccine?
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Slavek
It's foolish to pass on safe and effective vaccination product.


"safe and effective". It seems to me that neither our government (or any other one) nor big pharma have the best track record when it comes to the well being of the general public.



As a kid I had several friends who contracted polio before we all became vaccinated. There a lot of successes. Might consider getting over the paranoia. wink
Posted By: cfran Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Bill Gates should stay in his lane, last time he checked he wasn’t qualified to give medical advice.
Jacobson v Massachusetts
Originally Posted by cfran
Bill Gates should stay in his lane, last time he checked he wasn’t qualified to give medical advice.


Then you might want to check again and see what exactly he's been up to for the last 20 years.
"For the first time in human history, technology and global willpower have made the factors of Revelation 13:6-7 feasible." http://harbingersdaily.com/id-2020/

And strangely...this is not considered earth-shattering news. Even on a largely conservative site like this, when Revelation becomes present tense, folks will just shine it on and go about their daily lives. Mind boggling...
This whole affair is a leftist/communist/democRAT's biggest wet dream....

said it before and I'll say it again..

.Never let a tragedy go to waste... rural number one for those that worship at the alter of Saul Alinsky...
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.

It’s also worrisome that millions of Americans go along with whatever concoction the MSM is pushing this week or month.
Originally Posted by Waders
"For the first time in human history, technology and global willpower have made the factors of Revelation 13:6-7 feasible." http://harbingersdaily.com/id-2020/

And strangely...this is not considered earth-shattering news. Even on a largely conservative site like this, when Revelation becomes present tense, folks will just shine it on and go about their daily lives. Mind boggling...



scary schitt

Coming out of Rice University, there is new technology labelled the “Quantum dot” tattoo. This tag consists of tiny microneedles that deliver a vaccine, dissolves the sugar-based needles and leaves behind a mark or barcode-like tattoo. This mark leaves a record of the vaccine that had been received through an infrared-like dye pattern that can be read by a customized smartphone.
Posted By: Dutch Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Backroads
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.



They did that very thing with smallpox. It worked.


How long was the country shut down then?



Check with the medicine man or the chief. Oh, wait, they all ded.... I guess they never restarted.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.

It’s also worrisome that millions of Americans go along with whatever concoction the MSM is pushing this week or month.


50% of the members here included. Minimum
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



Why would everyone on Earth have to take a vaccine? If one doesn’t take a Polio vaccine then gets Polio, how would that effect those who do take the vaccine?

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.

It’s also worrisome that millions of Americans go along with whatever concoction the MSM is pushing this week or month.


50% of the members here included. Minimum

I’ve noticed.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by jackmountain
The paranoid side of me thinks it's a little worrisome that they finally have a reason to inject every person on Earth, possibly against their will, in the name of saving humanity.

It’s also worrisome that millions of Americans go along with whatever concoction the MSM is pushing this week or month.


Thinking outside the box is unnerving to some suckers, even on the Fire. Makes one wonder if they dont get some .Gov checks on the side. whistle
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



Why would everyone on Earth have to take a vaccine? If one doesn’t take a Polio vaccine then gets Polio, how would that effect those who do take the vaccine?

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “


Uh, control of the lemmings is necessary for the well being of the state- controllers. Something the Doc here explains quite well.

I had polio and smallpox vaccines. I had flu, shingles and pneumonia vaccines. My IQ is higher than my hat size and I figure if jag and firebalz are against it then logic would say it is probably a good thing.

I am however phugging terrified of the accompanying nano tags and testosterone inhibiting elements!!!!

LMFAO


mike r
Lots of paranoid people here.
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This'll be mine, Ha
Originally Posted by Waders
"For the first time in human history, technology and global willpower have made the factors of Revelation 13:6-7 feasible." http://harbingersdaily.com/id-2020/

And strangely...this is not considered earth-shattering news. Even on a largely conservative site like this, when Revelation becomes present tense, folks will just shine it on and go about their daily lives. Mind boggling...


No Insult intended, but the biblical angle doesn't concern me.
The link to ID2020, and the partners in it do though.
Microsoft (Gates) the Rockefeller foundation, GAVI (the vaccine alliance funded to the tune of billions by Bill Gates.
https://id2020.org/alliance
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAVI#History

A quick search will give you all you need to know about Rockefeller's views toward humanity, depopulation, centralized global power etc....

No way I'm taking any Vaccine. This whole scenario reeks.
I just don't see how there's not something nefarious behind this pandemic.
Originally Posted by heavywalker
Lots of paranoid people here.



The MSM and .Gov says C-19 was made by a bat.
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Jackmountain: I am with you on the having never had a "flu shot" - but in this instance I am rather certain I will partake of it.
Main reason is age and this diseases ability to "knock off" older folks. I am 72. And, of course< I don't want to contract the disease let it incubate in me and then my "spreading it around to others".
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


It’s never too late to get microchipped
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Jackmountain: I am with you on the having never had a "flu shot" - but in this instance I am rather certain I will partake of it.
Main reason is age and this diseases ability to "knock off" older folks. I am 72. And, of course< I don't want to contract the disease let it incubate in me and then my "spreading it around to others".
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


It’s never too late to get microchipped



Or to get your neighbors spayed or neutered.


Bob Barker is still alive and among us.....
Posted By: 700LH Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
ITEOTWAWKI
I guess it's just me but...Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates says that, Bill Gates says... Jeff Bezos too...I get really tired of these egomaniac multi billionaires being experts on every goddam subject from interplanetary colonization, global warming, contagious diseases...just because they dominate the hi tech money world, people in the news and media world worship them and every word they utter. Jackass wants every goddam peasant like me in the world to get immunized so we can survive the free flow of trade from the cradle of disease, China, where he gets his electronic schidt built for slave labor prices.
Originally Posted by heavywalker
Lots of paranoid people here.


You'd have to admit that the virus "originating" 3 blocks from a lab where this type of virus was being studied, deserves at minimum, a second look.
That's the tip of the iceberg of the coincidences surrounding this event.
Posted By: ribka Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.


Have you had the polio, small pox and measles vaccines?
Originally Posted by lvmiker
I had polio and smallpox vaccines. I had flu, shingles and pneumonia vaccines. My IQ is higher than my hat size and I figure if jag and firebalz are against it then logic would say it is probably a good thing.

I am however phugging terrified of the accompanying nano tags and testosterone inhibiting elements!!!!

LMFAO


mike r



How are those nano tags going to send powerful enough signals for the Mother Ship to receive them?

Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.


Have you had the polio, small pox and measles vaccines?

Big difference in the technology that exists now that didn't then. Big difference on the information we have now compared to then.
I take the free Flu shot at work each year, I rarely get sick BUT there is a down side. Since several members of my team refuse it I often have to cover for them while they are out sick.
Originally Posted by heavywalker
Lots of paranoid people here.




They're not after your gun rights; they already have em grin grin grin
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Thinking outside the box is unnerving to some suckers, even on the Fire. Makes one wonder if they dont get some .Gov checks on the side. whistle
If SS checks get threatened a lot these never going to get vaccinated folks would be lining up to get their vaccinations and would take a tracking collar to go with it.
Originally Posted by old_willys
I take the free Flu shot at work each year, I rarely get sick BUT there is a down side. Since several members of my team refuse it I often have to cover for them while they are out sick.


OW, you had somebody goin through Covid, didn't you?

How's that goin, if you don't mind postin about it?
[quote=jaguartx][q

"Not to mention additives that may enhance suseptability to mind control and reduced testosterone".

Jag....you certainly have become weirder and more paranoid as time rolls on.
Posted By: 700LH Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Where is this available?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Most of congress has stock in Pharma companies.



I have about 60% of my retirement account in Pharma and Med industry.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.

That's because the flu vaccine isn't fully effective for 10-14 days after it is given. The antibodies have to build up in your system. You got the flu. It wasn't the shot.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by lvmiker
I had polio and smallpox vaccines. I had flu, shingles and pneumonia vaccines. My IQ is higher than my hat size and I figure if jag and firebalz are against it then logic would say it is probably a good thing.

I am however phugging terrified of the accompanying nano tags and testosterone inhibiting elements!!!!

LMFAO


mike r



How are those nano tags going to send powerful enough signals for the Mother Ship to receive them?



When activated by methane they transform to drones and exit the host on a fart. DUH


mike r
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Borealis Bob
[quote=jaguartx][q

"Not to mention additives that may enhance suseptability to mind control and reduced testosterone".

Jag....you certainly have become weirder and more paranoid as time rolls on.




not so far fetched, correct term is estrogen toxicity. chemicals that are structurally related to estrogen that cause the same pharmacological effects, used in plastics and their formulas and releasing agents,


change additives to read psychotropic drugs that are given for relief from bipolar disorders, mood swings, on prescription.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “

It appears that 30% of those who get the COVID 19 illness require hospitalization, and a significant percentage of those hospitalized for it require critical care, with a high death rate after hospitalization.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.

That's because the flu vaccine isn't fully effective for 10-14 days after it is given. The antibodies have to build up in your system. You got the flu. It wasn't the shot.



Yep...


I got a flu shot, and I picked up my kids at nursery school, and I went to Walmart, and I got tacos off the roach-coach on the way home.

That damned flu shot gave me the flu! smirk
Posted By: hanco Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
I’d take it, flu shots don’t bother me.
Depends on whether or not I’m still alive after all this is over.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

How are those nano tags going to send powerful enough signals for the Mother Ship to receive them?

They just need to install readers at key choke points of travel.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Bill Gates is not the one saying what you are hearing,

Its his dads Law Firm K&L Gates largest law firm in the world. Check it out.
Posted By: Prwlr Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Slavek
It's foolish to pass on safe and effective vaccination product.



+1

I'll take it.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
I think everybody should get the vaccine. Then after a year or so, after seeing how it works it, may I'll get it.
Posted By: rabst Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
As a requirement of my [former] profession, I had to get [and prove that I got] the influenza vaccination every year. It's no big deal (cheap, and practically painless), and I'll definitely get one for next year.

It is possible to get the flu even if you've had the vaccine. There are many different viruses that cause the flu, and the viruses themselves tend to change a bit ("antigenic drift"). Plus, the CDC attempts to guess which three or four strains are most likely to be problematic in a given year. Sometimes, they guess wrong.

But, the flu shot does not cause the flu.

On the other hand, it also doesn't confer immediate immunity (takes a couple of weeks for your body to build up antibodies to levels that would help prevent infection), so it's possible to get sick after a flu shot [because you were already exposed to the virus prior to actually getting the vaccine].

So, there is almost no downside to getting the flu shot (unless you are allergic to some component, or have some other rare contraindication), and, potentially, a lot of upside (less likely to get the flu; likely to become less sick, or for fewer days, even if you do; and less likely to spread the flu to others). Every responsible adult should get one.

That said, if they offered a COVID-19 vaccine today [that was determined to be safe and relatively effective], I'd already be standing in line.

Originally Posted by Etoh
I think everybody should get the vaccine. Then after a year or so, after seeing how it works it, may I'll get it.



The vaccine is salt water, but it comes with a chip for combatting the virus.
Bill Gates wants to depopulate the earth and he is the major mover of the vaccine business. He also is a big player in the U.N. agenda 2030 which a lot of you need to read before making up your mind. They want earth's population to be no more than 500 million. They are going to have to murder several billion people. Can you guess how they are going to do it ? There is no way my family will be vaccinated. Anything Gates supports is enough reason to be against it. He has been a eugenic all his life.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.

That's because the flu vaccine isn't fully effective for 10-14 days after it is given. The antibodies have to build up in your system. You got the flu. It wasn't the shot.


is it me or has the ratio of infectious disease doctors suddenly increased at "the fire" ?


covid incubation
We have a vaccine for this:




“The overall cumulative hospitalization rate was 67.9 per 100,000 population, which is higher than all recent seasons at this time of year except for the 2017-18 season. Rates in children 0-4 years old and adults 18-49 years old are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing the rate reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children are higher than any recent regular season but lower than rates during the pandemic.”

-CDC (Flu data)
Originally Posted by Etoh
I think everybody should get the vaccine. Then after a year or so, after seeing how it works it, may I'll get it.


this
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.


I've never taken any type of vaccine in my life. Not even when I was in school
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.

That's because the flu vaccine isn't fully effective for 10-14 days after it is given. The antibodies have to build up in your system. You got the flu. It wasn't the shot.


is it me or has the ratio of infectious disease doctors suddenly increased at "the fire" ?


covid incubation

I didn't mention anything about COVID19. I also didn't mention anything about incubation periods. I wrote about how long for the flu vaccine to have an effect on your body.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.

That's because the flu vaccine isn't fully effective for 10-14 days after it is given. The antibodies have to build up in your system. You got the flu. It wasn't the shot.


is it me or has the ratio of infectious disease doctors suddenly increased at "the fire" ?


covid incubation

I didn't mention anything about COVID19. I also didn't mention anything about incubation periods. I wrote about how long for the flu vaccine to have an effect on your body.


oh, sorry, when you typed "you got the flu" I assumed you were a doctor, my mistake
Originally Posted by jwp475



I've never taken any type of vaccine in my life. Not even when I was in school

You never got vaccinated for smallpox or polio? I find that hard to believe.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
[quote=sambubba]Bill Gates wants to depopulate the earth and he is the major mover of the vaccine business. He also is a big player in the U.N. agenda 2030 which a lot of you need to read before making up your mind. They want earth's population to be no more than 500 million. They are going to have to murder several billion people. Can you guess how they are going to do it ? There is no way my family will be vaccinated. Anything Gates supports is enough reason to be against it. He has been a eugenic all his life.
/quote]


Couldnt agree more.

K&L Gates Law firm has an office in every major country in the world, and is the "mechanism" for implementing the plan.
Originally Posted by Etoh
[quote=sambubba]Bill Gates wants to depopulate the earth and he is the major mover of the vaccine business. He also is a big player in the U.N. agenda 2030 which a lot of you need to read before making up your mind. They want earth's population to be no more than 500 million. They are going to have to murder several billion people. Can you guess how they are going to do it ? There is no way my family will be vaccinated. Anything Gates supports is enough reason to be against it. He has been a eugenic all his life.
/quote]


Couldnt agree more.

K&L Gates Law firm has an office in every major country in the world, and is the "mechanism" for implementing the plan.


BS, Etoh, the campfire brainiacs have already determined the doc on this video is FOS, even without listening to him. Pure geniuses on the Fire. Folks are more "comfortable" believing their preconceived notions, fed to them by the MSM (which they say they dont trust). whistle

Truth: When Etoh speaks, I listen.

Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Most of congress has stock in Pharma companies.



I have about 60% of my retirement account in Pharma and Med industry.



Depends on how much market movement you want.

Swings in Pharma stocks aren't what they used to be, as drugs become more specialized its pretty easy to "calculate" the size of the market and the yearly sales, thus the stock dividends. The stocks are priced accordingly and show "stability" as compared to something like the tech industry. But are priced at too high of a price to see large 'growth"

That is why they are liked for retirement funds, (less speculation") and meet the requirements for such groups as pensions.
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I guess it's just me but...Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates says that, Bill Gates says... Jeff Bezos too...I get really tired of these egomaniac multi billionaires being experts on every goddam subject from interplanetary colonization, global warming, contagious diseases...just because they dominate the hi tech money world, people in the news and media world worship them and every word they utter. Jackass wants every goddam peasant like me in the world to get immunized so we can survive the free flow of trade from the cradle of disease, China, where he gets his electronic schidt built for slave labor prices.



"I know more than the generals"
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I guess it's just me but...Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates says that, Bill Gates says... Jeff Bezos too...I get really tired of these egomaniac multi billionaires being experts on every goddam subject from interplanetary colonization, global warming, contagious diseases...just because they dominate the hi tech money world, people in the news and media world worship them and every word they utter. Jackass wants every goddam peasant like me in the world to get immunized so we can survive the free flow of trade from the cradle of disease, China, where he gets his electronic schidt built for slave labor prices.



"I know more than the generals"



you think Bill Gates is *the general* ?
Posted By: MM879 Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
I'll be first in line. I've worked international for the last 40 years. Vaccines for different countries are nothing new. I have actually had many of the home remedies in China. What doesn't kill you will help you.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I guess it's just me but...Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates says that, Bill Gates says... Jeff Bezos too...I get really tired of these egomaniac multi billionaires being experts on every goddam subject from interplanetary colonization, global warming, contagious diseases...just because they dominate the hi tech money world, people in the news and media world worship them and every word they utter. Jackass wants every goddam peasant like me in the world to get immunized so we can survive the free flow of trade from the cradle of disease, China, where he gets his electronic schidt built for slave labor prices.



"I know more than the generals"



saying can go both ways. "beware of Greeks bearing gifts"
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I guess it's just me but...Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates says that, Bill Gates says... Jeff Bezos too...I get really tired of these egomaniac multi billionaires being experts on every goddam subject from interplanetary colonization, global warming, contagious diseases...just because they dominate the hi tech money world, people in the news and media world worship them and every word they utter. Jackass wants every goddam peasant like me in the world to get immunized so we can survive the free flow of trade from the cradle of disease, China, where he gets his electronic schidt built for slave labor prices.



"I know more than the generals"



you think Bill Gates is *the general* ?



Bill is just a little "geek" supposed computer boy, a "store front" for a legal corporation that has stole more "computer" technology than they ever developed.

Not sure who the "flip" side is in the Chinese world

oh well, guess its our gang agains theirs.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Revise that:

"Beware of Geeks bearing Gifts."
I have been vaccinated with the things my state required for school. I suffere no ill effects. I have taken the flu shot twice and both times within 5 days was very sick for a couple of weeks. I will take a covid19 vaccination when a proven safe one is available.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
The plural of anecdotal is not data
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “

It appears that 30% of those who get the COVID 19 illness require hospitalization, and a significant percentage of those hospitalized for it require critical care, with a high death rate after hospitalization.


To be fair, maybe 30% of those who actually get tested and are confirmed to have it are hospitalized. Seems there's still lots of places where tests are only being administered to those who get really sick. Numbers right now don't seem to be too trustworthy, and I wonder if we'll ever really know how many people actually had it.
Not me
Haven't had a flu shot since leaving the Navy in 1980

Won't take any other!
I've never had a flu shot and intend to keep it that way.
Posted By: sse Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Etoh
I think everybody should get the vaccine. Then after a year or so, after seeing how it works it, may I'll get it.

if yer not dead
Originally Posted by Etoh
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Most of congress has stock in Pharma companies.



I have about 60% of my retirement account in Pharma and Med industry.



Depends on how much market movement you want.

Swings in Pharma stocks aren't what they used to be, as drugs become more specialized its pretty easy to "calculate" the size of the market and the yearly sales, thus the stock dividends. The stocks are priced accordingly and show "stability" as compared to something like the tech industry. But are priced at too high of a price to see large 'growth"

That is why they are liked for retirement funds, (less speculation") and meet the requirements for such groups as pensions.


It's hard for Pharma to make money with todays lowyer elites, concerning normal drugs and meds.

OTOH, Sen Kennedy fixed things years ago so vaccines arent so financially liable as meds.

Most people have trouble accepting than a consortium of the top 15 or 20 wealthiest of people on this earth may be able to control more than what the masses believe, which is why Rush finally admitted that Trump is fighting the most powerful people on earth, who have people like the Clinton's and Zeros as their foot soldiers. He finally admitted that Trump has one shot only at taking the real elites down and better make it good.

Yes, if Trump misses it seems their plan is to reduce the Earths population by 80%. Yep, if Trump fails in his and Mil Intels plan, folks will take whatever shots they say, whether it be lead or poison.

Afaic, even the atheists best pray for Trump.
Originally Posted by Etoh
Revise that:

"Beware of Geeks bearing Gifts."



Nope...

Beware of Geeks bearing Trojans.
Originally Posted by longarm
I've never had a flu shot and intend to keep it that way.



Me either but decided that I don't want to be responsible for killing off some senior or immune compromised person, so I'll do it. Sometimes, it isn't just "all about me."
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by longarm
I've never had a flu shot and intend to keep it that way.



Me either but decided that I don't want to be responsible for killing off some senior or immune compromised person, so I'll do it. Sometimes, it isn't just "all about me."


sanctimonious twat
I don’t think it’s early enough to know that answer but

If it is only dangerous for the old and the compromised why not take the chance and build up natural immunity if you’re not in that group?

Is smallpox and polio really a fair comparison when they cause serious issues for everyone including children?

Did the Spanish flu end because of a vaccine?

I’d want answers to those questions first.
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I guess it's just me but...Bill Gates says this, Bill Gates says that, Bill Gates says... Jeff Bezos too...I get really tired of these egomaniac multi billionaires being experts on every goddam subject from interplanetary colonization, global warming, contagious diseases...just because they dominate the hi tech money world, people in the news and media world worship them and every word they utter. Jackass wants every goddam peasant like me in the world to get immunized so we can survive the free flow of trade from the cradle of disease, China, where he gets his electronic schidt built for slave labor prices.



"I know more than the generals"



you think Bill Gates is *the general* ?


I think he meant to type genitals?
Originally Posted by widrahthaar


If it is only dangerous for the old and the compromised why not take the chance and build up natural immunity if you’re not in that group?

Not true.
Quote
I don't want to be responsible for killing off some senior or immune compromised person, so I'll do it. Sometimes, it isn't just "all about me."



phuggin demonrats sick



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Straight from the CDC :


“This first preliminary description of outcomes among patients with COVID-19 in the United States indicates that fatality was highest in persons aged ≥85, ranging from 10% to 27%, followed by 3% to 11% among persons aged 65–84 years, 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, <1% among persons aged 20–54 years, and no fatalities among persons aged ≤19 years.”
Posted By: Etoh Re: Who's not taking the vaccine - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by sse
Originally Posted by Etoh
I think everybody should get the vaccine. Then after a year or so, after seeing how it works it, may I'll get it.

if yer not dead



Nobody gets out alive.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
I had a flue shot last fall and 5 days later I was more sick than I'd been in years. Lasted 6 weeks.
Never getting any other preventative shot (excepting tetanus) as long as I live, period.

I’m with you the war department bitched enough I got one in 2005. I got so sick a couple of months later if they give me another it’ll be to a corpse
Never had a flu shot and never intend on getting one. To each there own.
Originally Posted by UPhiker
Originally Posted by jwp475



I've never taken any type of vaccine in my life. Not even when I was in school

You never got vaccinated for smallpox or polio? I find that hard to believe.


Fact never ever have I taken s vaccination
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by longarm
I've never had a flu shot and intend to keep it that way.



Me either but decided that I don't want to be responsible for killing off some senior or immune compromised person, so I'll do it. Sometimes, it isn't just "all about me."


sanctimonious twat


TWAT! TWAT! TWAT!

I says!

Exactly!
It's a virus and I suspect it'll mutate by next year as the flu virus does, every year and a slightly different vaccine will be needed..

I'll be curious to see how things go with our, new Normal.
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Can we slip permanent birth control in any welfare recipients vaccine?


That’s sound forward thinking...😎
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by longarm
I've never had a flu shot and intend to keep it that way.



Me either but decided that I don't want to be responsible for killing off some senior or immune compromised person, so I'll do it. Sometimes, it isn't just "all about me."


If you are genuinely concerned re others you'd suck start a .45
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Can we slip permanent birth control in any welfare recipients vaccine?


That’s sound forward thinking...😎


The WHO has done it before with vaccines in third world countries.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
.. Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “


cause the miserable types like the comradery.
Originally Posted by longarm
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by longarm
I've never had a flu shot and intend to keep it that way.



Me either but decided that I don't want to be responsible for killing off some senior or immune compromised person, so I'll do it. Sometimes, it isn't just "all about me."


If you are genuinely concerned re others you'd suck start a .45



Oh so witty. But what's to be expected from someone only interested in himself?
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



Why would everyone on Earth have to take a vaccine? If one doesn’t take a Polio vaccine then gets Polio, how would that effect those who do take the vaccine?

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “


You mean something like vaccine? You are mighty fearful, apparently.
With 2 pages of immunizations since being in the military, I've probably already got the nanotech in me (j/k...that stuff isn't real)


So...why not?
Lots and lots of assumptions here. The biggest is that there will be a vaccine. None was ever found for the other two coronaviruses, SARs and MERs .
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Lots and lots of assumptions here. The biggest is that there will be a vaccine. None was ever found for the other two coronaviruses, SARs and MERs .

The explanation given for that is that they disappeared from the scene before development of the vaccine was complete. Hopefully we will see the same with SARs II.
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



Why would everyone on Earth have to take a vaccine? If one doesn’t take a Polio vaccine then gets Polio, how would that effect those who do take the vaccine?

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “


You mean something like vaccine? You are mighty fearful, apparently.

I didn’t say vaccine ,c.ocksucker
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Originally Posted by jackmountain
When (not saying if, because I think it's a surety) the vaccine hits the market, who's passing? Ive never had a flu shot that I can recall. Doubt I would get one for this either.
Bill Gates said it has to be given to every person on Earth. Be interesting to see if they try to force you by penalty of law.



Why would everyone on Earth have to take a vaccine? If one doesn’t take a Polio vaccine then gets Polio, how would that effect those who do take the vaccine?

Another good question could be” Why does every American have to be significantly affected by fear of something that’s rarely fatal? “


You mean something like vaccine? You are mighty fearful, apparently.

I didn’t say vaccine ,c.ocksucker


But it certainly does sound like you are fearful of it. I feel sorry for you.
Why Leroy? why do you come here ? Do you enjoy being made a fool off?

I don't think gee, I am going to go on the Democratic underground and be a turd in the punch bowl.....

What kind of self loathing dipshit does these things?
Liberals are cancer to the US of A. We need a vaccine that will eliminate liberals and that should do away with the queers also.
Originally Posted by irfubar
Why Leroy? why do you come here ? Do you enjoy being made a fool off?

I don't think gee, I am going to go on the Democratic underground and be a turd in the punch bowl.....

What kind of self loathing dipshit does these things?


I enjoy watching the train wrecks here and I like representing a group of folks that also like to hunt and shoot and maybe don't suck the fruitjuice that you've been squeezing.

I've never been on Democratic Underground, but several here, quite a few in fact, have bragged about going on DU for fun.

No self loathing here. Just marching to a different drum. Does that really bother you all that much? I see it bothers ol' TrueGrit, so I'll just hang out here a while longer if you don't mind.
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Lots and lots of assumptions here. The biggest is that there will be a vaccine. None was ever found for the other two coronaviruses, SARs and MERs .
I've noticed that an HIV/AIDS vaccine hasn't been forthcoming. There's said to be 38 million unquarantined cases out there with no identification or restrictions on its carriers. Not every disease can be vaccinated against.
Originally Posted by heavywalker
Lots of paranoid people here.
Which ones? The ones that are afraid they'll die of C19 if everyone isn't vaccinated or the ones who don't feel a vaccine is necessary for a treatable disease?
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