Sue them in federal court for the cost of the pandemic they caused, then subtract an enormous judgement from what we owe them.

We just need to get the people off their addiction to buying a bunch of cheap schitt they don't need.

Not an addiction... they're the only game in town. No choice.

Subtract from? Hell no. What we owe them is a small fraction of what the cost will be of this $hit.
Cut them off, erase the debt, zero trade, zero travel. Tell every country to do the same.
They like watching countries collapse so much they might as well study it up close.

From the part of our National Debt they own, Hell Yes.

A class action suit has already been filed.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/class-action-suit-seeks-to-make-china-pay

Lower minimum wage to $2hr?
Bust the unions up?
Manufacture [bleep] at home?

Probably somewhere between the two. If people were only buying what they needed and few wants, then we'd probably be in a lot less debt to them. OTOH, they ARE the only game in town in many cases. We just need to be making a lot more stuff here and realize that essentially, slave labor in other countries ultimately carries a much higher cost than just the cheap goods made on the backs of poor folks that you don't have to look in the eye every day.

Apparently the concept of importation tarriffs eludes you.

That won't wash...but suing them for with-holding vital information would.

And as for a judgement, once governments around the world twig that it would be an excellent way to remove property (ports etc) from chinese stewardship you will see a rush like none before.

Literally a mad dash for chinese assets in each sovereign land.


But first things first, start an organised litigation and freeze assets as quickly as possible before they divest themselves of said assets (jiggle books).

We do not need communist going to our schools. We do not need communist working in our companies. We should not buy items made by any communist country or company. We do not need any communist in our city, local, or federal government. We do not need any communist in our military or military training schools. We just do not need communist anything in America. If communist are here then they need to be ran out of the country.

Fixed it for ya.

Good strategy, IMO.

-Send them hood rats and Meskins,
-bust unions up
Send them democrats.

That would almost guarantee war. China would have nothing to lose. They would have high unemployment, less access to resources, and a huge population of single males due to the one child policy. Add in the loss of face and China would feel forced to act, much like Japan did when we cut off steel and oil exports to them in 1941.

And ultimately they fried.

Look at the Label first. Most of the stuff they sell we don't need. I don't need 6 pairs of sneakers from China, just one pair from the US or a country that is normal would suffice.

Once Cancer takes ahold it has to be destroyed if the Patient is to survive.

The problem with that is, 30 minutes later you want to screw them again.

The 'Country of Origin" labels that have been removed and minimized need to be brought back to prominence. Let the U.S. citizens make the choice, do they want their money going to China.

70% of our economy is based on our overt consumerism. Americans like buying stuff. Cheaper, the better. We would need an entire cultural and economic shift...

so are you the one to determine who needs what?...………..bob

that's what I want...….we are going to try and not buy chink stuff...….gladly pay more for USA products...…….bob

Do not buy from any country that doesn't require decent wages and safety for workers and enforce that strictly. Suddenly American manufacturing would start back up, and things would cost more but we wouldn't be supporting exploitation that leaves workers in slave like lives and actually kills people in third world countries. Are cheap goods worth what we are enabling in poor countries? Worse than slavery is what we are supporting. At least a slave was valued as property.

I've always tried to buy American or products from western countries [tried].

Commented in the backpacking subforum quite a while back about buying an American made top quality bag someone? pm/d me about they could spend their money wherever they wanted .
Commented on Trapperman about the BS of Duke Traps copying the Minnesota Brand MB550/650 then having them made by slaves in chinawan - members there said they LOVE the trap - nothing but greedy cheapskates who care nothing about the welfare of their neighbors .

Good Morning Bruce !!!

Hey do they have China gals for the other thread about "Mail Order Brides"? Some of us could buy one or two of those China Dolls plant a few seeds and send them back home to Mao. That way we could get established from "the inside out" and eventually get Harbor Freight tools for free.

BTW what is that meat in Pork Lomein? I never seen pork that color.

Do what? Linkage? 😆

Sure hope for the sake of agriculture in the USA that they continue to buy millions of tons of grain and other ag products.

That^^^
Been saying virtually the same thing to my wife for years.

What can’t be made here?

We probably can’t grow rubber trees so we’d have to import natural rubber. What else?

I’ve read here that boots are in the category, but I mean really can’t be, not you just can’t find it for $9 at WalMart.

Incentivize companies to move low-skill, low-cost production out of China to Mexico, Central & South America. Would much rather have friendly countries benefit from that trade and building up those economies would also help our illegal immigration problem.

It is unconscionable and an absolute embarrassment that we have, through trade, enriched and empowered a country like China at our own peril. Attribute it to greed of corporate America and short-sighted cronyism on the part of both political parties.

It’s gotta start one step above the consumer.

China holds approximately $1.8T of our debt. We just spent $2.2T in stimulus. Tell China the $1.8T they hold will have to be eaten on their end to recoup the majority of the stimulus. Don't give them an option, simply tell them that is the way it is going to be.

Nice idea but it won't work. They'd just confiscate all the American-owned businesses in China.

If they hold all of our debt, they hold nothing.

Confiscate American owned businesses in China? Don’t confuse me with someone that GAF. Actions have consequences and in this case the blowback will be epic.

I've believed for years that it's US small business that made a choice to source from china, and the pacific rim. This was done in interest of maxing their profits. All well and good I suppose. On the other hand max profits over sourcing from US companies results in US producers going out of business. The displaced workforce will seek .gov benefits to live on. Said US companies pay a price for this through taxation. So either way, there is a cost to US business sourcing outside US. Buy a tee shirt recently from some specialty business? Won't be made is the US. Also, look at the US rifle industry. Sourcing from the Turks. Savage/Stevens comes to mind.

You miss the point. Making them eat the debt means they cannot at a future time try to collect on it. That wipes out that amount in the debt column and just about squares the stimulus. It comes off our bottom line and goes on theirs. Perhaps you didn't understand?

Luv2safari: I like it! Currently we own the china red death inventors over $1,000,000,000,000.00 (one trillion dollars!).
Lets diminish that enormous "debt" owed the chi-coms by doing just what you say.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Actually, China is well on the way to creating a middle class with all of the workers that are in the New Economic Zone.

That’s fact.

THIS!!!!!!!

Couple of nukes= fried rice

You think that they only fly in one direction ?

Hello, you old codger.

It's nearly impossible to buy much that's not made in China, Taiwan, Indonesia, India...and so on. I was just out surveying a worn out trailer jack on my boat trailer to see what size it was. It's a Fulton jack...Made in China. I can't find one that isn't.

Government regulation is one of the things that has driven production to other countries. Until the regulations are relaxed companies will still produce things outside the US.

Which one are you?

If we stopped buying the the goods made by these people, how many would starve to death as a result?

It wasn't the Chinese that sent all of America's manufacturing to China.

Anybody that wants to point their finger at how America got in the condition it's in needs to point it at D.C.

,...and that's why there won't be anything done about it.

That’s funny.

That just increases the flood of illegals from Central America

One trillion and half the real estate on the west coast.

Why we let Chinese nationals buy up property out here is beyond me.

Well, yea:

Or eliminated.The only true way to get rid of a cancer is to kill it.

1.4 Billion people in China.

What's your plan?

That is not my problem.

But starving people get aggressive and violent and tend to kill other people who have food. That could well be our problem

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