Schools around here shut down on March 17th, It looks like they could be reopened between May 1st and May 15th. The thing is the teachers still got paid, and the kids lost 1-1/2 to 2 months of class time. That money came from my property taxes. I didn't see them reduce those during this time. So I paid for services not rendered.

I want my moneys worth. Keep that school open and make up those classes, if they loose the summer vacation so be it.

Very kindly....gfy.

My youngest is studying here at home with online instruction, exams and his design project. He will graduate in two weeks so nothing lost here.

As my wife (Kindergarten teacher) sits here in the kitchen doing video conferencing and math lessons with her kids. Not all schools are completely shut down...teachers are still preparing work, making plans, etc even though you can't see it. I can't speak for your district but ours is way ahead of the curve in that each kid has an iPad that they can perform work on...those with no internet are given physical paper work to do.

Kids spend too much time in the classroom anyway.

So there is no online instruction happening?

The administrators were explaining to teachers a couple weeks ago that the actual instruction time for kids is supposed to be pretty low. I can't recall but less than a couple hours per day and age dependent. Parents were getting pissed that they actually had to parent and couldn't have their kids on the computer all day doing school work. It's sad how many view public schools as free day care and don't know what to do when they have to raise their own kids themselves.

Gotta love a guy calling himself armed and free dying to send his kids back to a socialist indoctrination center....

My SIL is a 6th grade teacher and they are now doing all online instruction since in-class instruction was cancelled. She is a very dedicated, creative, and hard working teacher that gets nothing but respect from the community she teaches in. Right now, she is spending more hours per day doing the online instruction than when she was in the classroom. Rest assured, her students and school are getting their moneys worth out of her.

You know what this could mean? NO NEED for school buildings any longer, other than a small area for lab work.. I.e., get rid of the buildings and save a TON of taxpayer bux...

But you know THAT will never happen.. Oh no, not that - it's where all the indoctrination is spouted with no parent(s) around to say, "ah, that's not right - here's the truth"..

A Dem nirvana...

Teachers are still working and the kids are still having class here. It’s just all been moved online

Look at the bright side
You have been given a chance to undo some of the teacher liberal programming that has become so prevalent in early education...

I don't have any. If I did I'd probably be a grandfather by now.

I’m wondering if there will be a significant percentage of folks deciding to homeschool after schools are reopened?


We homeschooled our oldest for 3 years & enjoyed it, even though she wasn’t academically inclined at the time.


But I’ll always feel I missed a great opportunity w our boys, we considered me & the boys living at the cabin, me homeschooling them, plus cutting wood, running steel & some carpentry projects (we’d all be learning that as we go ) momma running our biz & spending weekends w us, us boys spending a week at a time in town w her every so often

Alas we opened up another biz that’s done well for us financially, but our boys are men now & an opportunity was missed.


Have always loved my kids being home for summer. I guess we’re weird, always preferred company of our kids. Still do & they spend way more time w us as adults than most kids their age

We’ve been blessed, but still that missed opportunity haunts me a bit. It would have been a blast !

Will be curious to see if re-enrollment numbers are impacted by folks finding out how good it is to have the crumb snatchers w you

Same here. Mrs. FC is spending WAY more time teaching than normal, and doesn't get to "go home" at 3:00 pm. Her phone rings regularly past 10:00 pm, and she'll seldom say, "no" to a kid who's putting in effort.

One major problem is that when a teacher answers a kid's question with a detailed explanation, it will normally take care of that question for the other (up to 29) kids in that classroom at the same time. When they're at home, each kid will contact the teacher separately, with more or less that same question. Now, start again with ALL of the questions that the OTHER kids have. E-learning can be inefficient as fkuc.

No doubt there are some schidtbird teachers who are completely coasting at this time, but they're likely the ones who already spent most of their class time surfing the web or shopping online while their students did meaningless worksheets. The teachers who give a [excrement] are giving at least as much effort as they always have, and very likely even much more.

Just my observation.

FC

Maybe they are shut down in Ohio, but not here. Sure, there's no one at the buildings, but my kids are already sign on online. They have meeting in Microsoft team, conduct breakout session for work in small groups, and teachers are recording lessons at night for the next day.

I'm having the HS Junior watch plenty of Prager U videos.


FC

My son and daughter-in-law are doing the same thing. They prepare and send out lessons and monitor each student's participation. If students are not checking in, they make contact with their parents, by email and then phone if they do not reach them. They are also available at all hours for students or parents to contact them with questions about or help with the work assigned.

I teach HS here in TX. The school building has been closed since Spring Break but that doesn't mean school itself has been closed. We have moved all our classes online and are giving assignments, issuing grades and giving exams. And yes, we are still being paid. My bet is that wherever the OP lives is pretty much doing the same thing. Seems as though he has an issue with teachers like me still being paid. We are still working so we get paid. The OP still has his property so he still has to pay his taxes. That's the system.

I appreciate your statements and perspectives gentlemen. I would hope some parents would look over the kids shoulder and do a B.S. check.

Praise the Lord! The Darwin effect at work!

GFY

Public schools are in large part daycare centers. A place to watch schools so both parents can work so they can pay more taxes, so they can buy more schools, so they can work more, so they can pay more taxes. So they can buy more schools.

That being said it's a pretty impressive job our local teachers do. I'm fighting with our 8 year old right now trying to get him to do his school work and wondering how they got him this far. The kid will give a million pounds of fight to keep from doing an ounce of work.

Feeling way more respect for our teachers right now. Plus, many of our teachers here in Idaho are decent people. Most aren't marxist revolutionaries like in some states and they must live what they do because they sure don't do it for the money here in Idaho.

Bb

My son is a middle school math teacher in NH, they are open, teaching, assignments, grading, tests etc.

As for more home schooling? I htink it will go the other way, more parents gaining a bit of respect for teachers, parents are now seeing the work, trying to help etc.

I'm sure most of the high schoolers are logged into Pornhub.

Same here in rural NC. You have to love what you do because to go to college and work for 25 years to top out at $52,000 is insane. No way I would do it and what other profession tops out so low? Sure they have summers "off" but during the school year any of them that care spend way more than 8 hours per day and night doing their duties. Given the importance of what they do and how it affects our future, they are drastically underpaid. Teachers pay raises are currently on hold here due to legislators not being able to get anything passed. The Dem Gov wants to tie Medicaid expansion to the bill and the Repubs, thankfully will not cave to his demands.

UNCCGrad: Good post. I don't know why it is that teachers so often are singled out by the "I'm the Only One Who Deserves What I Earn" crowd. Teaching, like many other occupations, provides an important service. Like other occupations, it requires a certain skill set, aptitude, and training. Also like other occupations, there are those who are better at it than others, as well as those who put more into it than others.

Good teachers can't be paid enough, the bad ones, should--------------, well not be teaching.

In case you haven't noticed it by now, but the OP constantly has to complain about something. Just another unhappy person who is afraid to look inward to figure out why he's so unhappy and why his life didn't turn out like he dreamed it would.

Yea, I noticed that too.

I thought maybe people will see how easy it was. That we wouldn't have to send the kids to be indoctrinated .





Take care, Willie

You must be some proud of yourself. The teachers are probably working harder now trying to get education across to the kids at home but you want a refund that was paid for by your government job. What a piece of work.

Since when did anything paid for by taxes give the guy providing the funds his "money's worth"? I want some of whatever he's smoking! I retired from the public education system in 2011 after over 30 years of turning young folks into taxpaying citizens by teaching them trade skills. Some of my students from back then still call me up for advice on occasion.
LOL!
Jerry

Yes.

I don't disagree with that - half day in class for evaluation of previous work/ new instruction, then go home and do assigned work/study - another group comes in for the second half day for evaluation of previous work/new instruction, goes home and has the next morning for assigned work/study. Class sizes halved, better ratio achieved. In either case, the non-academic half of the day could be filled with extra-curricular activities and the evenings spent on assigned work/study if so desired.

In this part of Iowa the spend more time riding bus than in class. Perhaps they need a rolling version of the old country schools.

Teachers teaching on the buses?

Based on some of the spelling in your post, the taxpayers paid for some school services that were not rendered (at least not very well) back when you were in English class. Do they get a refund?

I thought it, but you said it!

If on-line education was as good as classroom education, they'd have gone on-line 20 years ago.

It isn't.

Ok y’all what is the average in school days your teachers are contracted for? Here the average pay is 44,000 per school year contract of 178 days classroom instruction, 188 days total work time. 44K for 6 mos. work.

No school until next fall in Texas.

Wrong. Most people work 5 days a week so that's 9 months. Seeing as you have to have at least a bachelor's degree and have to keep getting CEC's, that's not a lot. How would you like to be stuck in a room with 30+ kids for several hours a day and get them to behave and try to teach kids of all intellect levels?

188 days of work time is actually nearly 38 work weeks.

Wrong my ass

$41k starting salary
UPDATED 10/15/2019
$67k max salary
UPDATED 10/15/2019
3 years to tenure
UPDATED 10/14/2019
173 days in student school year
UPDATED 04/16/2019
188 days in teacher school year
UPDATED 10/14/2019

https://www.nctq.org/contract-database/district/Omaha-Public-Schools

I hear frequently about kids getting indoctrinated at school. No doubt lib, unionized teachers and progressive curriculums have that intention and bad parents allow it.

I was taught by my parents to questions authority. Every night I was interrogated about my school work and the subject matter was discussed and illuminated. My wife and I did the same w/ our 4 kids. Critical and creative thinking begins at home and kids have the values that they are taught. Leaving your kid's future up to others is not good parenting.

As a kid I hated school but did learn to appreciate the value of knowledge.


mike r

My teaching contract is for 260 days a year. Perhaps you don't understand that different states and different types of teaching have different contracts? I teach NJROTC at a high school in Amarillo TX and we are on a 12 month contract because of summer leadership camps, orientation visits, mandatory training with the USN etc... 5 days a week for 52 weeks equals 260 days. So I work every bit as many days as you do.

What was your point again?

Do you work seven days a week? 188/5=38 weeks = 9 months.
You sound like one of those "everyone else makes too much money and I don't make enough" crybabies. Do you have a college degree? $41-67K isn't a lot for someone with a 4 year degree.

Youse jackwagons should try teaching.


I made it about 5 mins once we started the home school for the Corony Virus.


Lost my schit.

This was my initial reaction to the OP as well.

At least in my locale, kids are doing some form of work from home. Mostly over the internet, paper for the few who don’t have access to WiFi. Is it as “rigorous” or time consuming as normal classroom teaching? No, but the schools are trying to make the most of a bad situation.

Find something else to complain about..

It is kind of funny just how much time a kid spends in school..........and how much time they spend actually learning.


You can pretty well cover all the subjects in about 2 to 3 hours.


This is with out lunch break and three recesses. Oh, and "brain breaks".



Lotta day care happening there.....

Well said. If most of our kids’ learning is coming from a state run school, then we’re in for some green-haired, blue-voting yellow bellies.

Truth

The taxpayers of Ohio should get a refund from the OP because he's not doing his job. Part of the job of a corrections officer is to rehabilitate prisoners. With the recidivism rate of felons, he's obviously not doing his job...(only somewhat sarcastic).

LMAO my employer use to kick 4 year degree idiots out the door. Had too many so called educated do nuffins with a sheepskin. Retired from a very well paying job, above and beyond your stats.
But man my boss would have just loved it if I said “ Hey man I only work 8-3 for 188 days. No weekends, no holidays. 10 days off with pay at Christmas, ohhh and I don’t work during the summer.
Work ends in May starts up in mid August no matter how many customers machines need fixed or new machinery, PLC installs you got on the books. Reason is because it’s no telling how many damn idiots I have to be around to teach this sh*t too as I install it, or fix their idiot fugg ups that happened because their 4 year degree said they knew what the f*ck was going on.

Not my experience but my youngest (twenty one) of three sons is about to graduate a mechanical engineer so maybe grade school today is different... That said, my wife ended a very good career when our second son was born, now twenty eight, to raise he and his twenty month older brother at the time. All three are pretty good men.

My wife is a teacher. They aren't thrilled either with the doing everything from home. On the other hand, it's a no brainer right now. A few Covid cases in an elementary school would spread like a wildfire. A bunch of parents wouldn't even send their kids to school even if they reopened. Theres only about a month left now anyway

At least here Ed, they get three recesses right up until the 6th grade.


They dont have the same schedule I did.



They seem to like school though. I hated every minute.......right through college.



Maybe thats the difference.

Could be Jim. My youngest son did grades 1 - 5 in Calgary and my middle son did and graduated high school in Calgary (same school our DocRocket graduated from). I was running around with work and my dear wife was sturdy and led the gang in my absence.