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https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-supreme-court-judge-ruth-bader-ginsburg-in-hospital-with-infection/
She needs to die, as sorry as that sounds.
Well, I'm sure praying hard.


'Nuff said.
She needs the best hospital NYC has.
I thought you guys wanted to kill off Roberts?
Originally Posted by nighthawk
I thought you guys wanted to kill off Roberts?


"Kill Off"?

Please post some links where it was suggested that "You guys" wanted to kill off Roberts.
There should be term limits or age limits.
It would help the narrative if she were to die of Covid19.
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. Some people here keep lining up to send flowers. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)
I don't wish ill health on anyone including that vile person.
I hope the corner of the casket doesn’t bump the wall again.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)



Wanting a SC Justice to follow the Constitution he swore to uphold is not "far right ideologue".

Go drool somewhere else.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by nighthawk
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)



Wanting a SC Justice to follow the Constitution [according to MY personal interpretation] he swore to uphold is not "far right ideologue".

Go drool somewhere else.

Yes, there's only one side to a coin and only my position to br considered. For everyone else is wrong. And nothing you say, no point you can make, will change my mind. I think that point of view lead to the demise of the Neanderthals.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by nighthawk
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)



Wanting a SC Justice to follow the Constitution [according to MY personal interpretation] he swore to uphold is not "far right ideologue".

Go drool somewhere else.

Yes, there's only one side to a coin and only my position to consider. For everyone else is wrong. And nothing you say, no point you can make, will change my mind. I think that point of view lead to the demise of the Neanderthals.



No, dumbass.

There IS only ONE thing the entire premise of the Supreme Court was created to function as a branch of gov't. The US Constitution. That's it. That's all. End of story.

Sadly politics has been injected into that, as well as other branches of govt that should not be politically affiliated.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. Some people here keep lining up to send flowers. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)

I don't buy your statement that she is "universally considered a Constitutional scholar". That is just propaganda from the liberal media. The media said the same about Obama, who led a totally corrupt administration and never followed the constitution.
So the cure is to inject the opposite political point of view and abandon reasoned argument? Was that a concept of the Founding Fathers?
Originally Posted by doubletap
I don't buy your statement that she is "universally considered a Constitutional scholar".

What notable legal authority speaks to the contrary? You mean she rose through the judicial system being an ignoramus? They couldn't impress a scholarly liberal?
Posted By: krp Re: Ginsberg back in the hospital - 05/06/20
The concept of the founding fathers was the Constitution, which isn't an opposing political view.

Kent
Originally Posted by krp
The concept of the founding fathers was the Constitution, which isn't an opposing political view.

Kent



Wasting our breath here.

Some people are too stupid to understand that the Constitution doesn't limit freedoms of citizens. It limits infringement of freedom and liberty of citizens by the government.
The concept of the Founding Fathers was a just system of government of which the Constitution forms an outline. Ever look at the old Soviet constitution? More explicit guarantee of rights there, but hardly a more just system of government. One glaring difference is the application of rights to a particular instance by rational discussion considering all points of view rather than a dictat by a particular person or political body (Politburo). One of the great old saws in favor of our adversarial system of justice; "From heat comes light."
Evil never dies. It just rots away..
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by krp
The concept of the founding fathers was the Constitution, which isn't an opposing political view.

Kent



Wasting our breath here.

Some people are too stupid to understand that the Constitution doesn't limit freedoms of citizens. It limits infringement of freedom and liberty of citizens by the government.

It must be wonderful to be you! Absolute certainty in all things, perfect knowledge and a complete absence of need to consider any contrary point of view. Simply dismiss it as wrong because it doesn't fit your personal view of the cosmos.
I wish no one ill health. Of course I do wish the liberal mind set would wake up, and smell the straight truth of things.
She must be in for a string tune up...you know the marionette strings Pelosi pulls. The taxidermist that stuffed her should have pulled her backbone wire tighter.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by krp
The concept of the founding fathers was the Constitution, which isn't an opposing political view.

Kent



Wasting our breath here.

Some people are too stupid to understand that the Constitution doesn't limit freedoms of citizens. It limits infringement of freedom and liberty of citizens by the government.

It must be wonderful to be you! Absolute certainty in all things, perfect knowledge and a complete absence of need to consider any contrary point of view. Simply dismiss it as wrong because it doesn't fit your personal view of the cosmos.


Natural rights, as codified by the US Constitution and particularly the Bill of Rights are an absolute certainty and not subject to contrary views.

Hurry up Ruth......retire today.
Originally Posted by nighthawk

It must be wonderful to be you! Absolute certainty in all things, perfect knowledge and a complete absence of need to consider any contrary point of view. Simply dismiss it as wrong because it doesn't fit your personal view of the cosmos.


Sometimes it's a burden.

But there's always people that believe in something strong enough to carry the water for those that are weak.
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I wish no one ill health. Of course I do wish the liberal mind set would wake up, and smell the straight truth of things.

Yup. And it's perfectly acceptable for liberals to wish that the majority of the Court hear and march to the tune Ruth hears.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by doubletap
I don't buy your statement that she is "universally considered a Constitutional scholar".

What notable legal authority speaks to the contrary? You mean she rose through the judicial system being an ignoramus? They couldn't impress a scholarly liberal?

Universally definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionarywww.collinsdictionary.com › dictionary › english › universally
If something is universally believed or accepted, it is believed or accepted by everyone with no disagreement. ...a universally accepted point of view
I for one don't agree and I know that most, if not all, conservatives don't agree. If you had said that she is considered a Constitutional scholar by left wing radicals, you would be correct.
Hurry up Ruthie. The election is 6 months away. Say Hi to McCain, Cummings and Teddy when you get there.
We all wish RBG leaves the hospital soon. It's just that many of us hope that it's via the loading dock.
I just put another one on ignore.
smile
Originally Posted by nighthawk
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. Some people here keep lining up to send flowers. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)


If this were 10 years ago, or even six, I would pretty much agree with you.

However, she’s carried on too long, and has befouled her reputation by overstaying her physical and mental capacities, and judgment. One only has to point to her forays into political activism, to an extent she was rebuked by Roberts, to see the extent her judgement has suffered. Combined with her physical inabilities to carry the work load she signed up for, she’s now just a shrill, pedantic obstinate seat holder. A shameful end to what was, pretty much universally considered to be an outstanding term on the court.
Ginsberg die, that's up to The Lord. Retire, yes.
I will feel sorry for any conservative judge appointee. Can you imagine the crap the Dems will sling at him/her. I hope the appointee is thick skinned enough to take it.
I would agree that much of Ginsberg's reputed constitutional acumen is part of the narrative spun by the left...they have created this whole "notorious RBG" persona, even sell tee-shirts. It's the same way Obama was built up. Originally he was touted as a "constitutional law professor." What a fugging joke. He was, in fact, a mere "lecturer," a non-tenure track person hired to entertain large numbers of students in a lecture hall, usually in lower division courses. It's a cost effective, but not very educationally effective, way for schools to sell credit hours.

I've always suspected that Ginsberg's appointment was one of the first major sales for profit by the Clinton cartel.

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.
The old bat,s mind is Ja crispy.
Her fuging interns been doing it all for her for years via political instructions from Liberal Socialist Democrats.
All she is, is a talking and voting head per her rehearsed material.
The bytch needs ta fughing die.
She wont retire unless a Liberal Socialist Democrat is elected potus.

Fugg her....
Die you old bat.........
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.

May be different for a Republican Senators and President. Hasbeen
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

That has been granted in every venue I have observed in the nature of our judgement is weighted by our life experiences. Nothing wrong with that. The trick is to form that into convincing, rational argument so your rationale wins the day. I, like Scalia, would enjoy engaging someone like Ruth to explore the soundness of my position if nothing more. Though based on interviews of Ruth and those that know her well I'd be soundly trounced. laugh
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Trump is eligible for a second term.

Obama wasn't.

THAT is the difference.

It's not that hard to figure out. Try it some time.

It keeps the REAL lame duck's from throwing schidt on the walls before they leave. (At least in the SC)
Like Ronald Reagan, , we can hope her doctors are all good Republicans. laugh
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Republicans controlled the Senate, so no, they didnt confirm Obamas liberal pick in his last year. He could have nominated a moderate judge but he decided to play Chicken with Mitch and lost.

Republicans still control the Senate so I would expect them to confirm a Trump nomination in his last year.

Dont like it? Take control of the Senate. Elections have consequences.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was hospitalized Tuesday with an infection caused by a gallstone, the Supreme Court said.

The 87-year-old justice underwent non-surgical treatment for what the court described as acute cholecystitis, a benign gall bladder condition, at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland.

She expects to be in the hospital for a day or two, the court said.

Ginsburg took part in the court’s telephone arguments Monday and Tuesday and plans to do so again Wednesday, the court said.

She has been treated four times for cancer, most recently in August.

She initially sought medical care Monday, when the gallstone was first diagnosed.
Originally Posted by nighthawk
So the cure is to inject the opposite political point of view and abandon reasoned argument? Was that a concept of the Founding Fathers?

It seems that it was an important point to our dearly departed Jusice Scalia as he reportedly held RBG in a position of high regard and much respect.

And while I appreciate Justice Scalia's opinion in this matter. I will be relieved when Ruth has been replaced on SCOTUS with a solid conservative.
Don’t octogenarians go into sepsis anytime you cut on them?

This bitch must be charlie sheen’s granny
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by krp
The concept of the founding fathers was the Constitution, which isn't an opposing political view.

Kent



Wasting our breath here.

Some people are too stupid to understand that the Constitution doesn't limit freedoms of citizens. It limits infringement of freedom and liberty of citizens by the government.

It must be wonderful to be you! Absolute certainty in all things, perfect knowledge and a complete absence of need to consider any contrary point of view. Simply dismiss it as wrong because it doesn't fit your personal view of the cosmos.




You don't always have to run down the bottomless rabbit hole. The truth can be right there in front of you, if you can to see it and choose to act upon it.

As I've been saying for weeks about our corona problem, pragmatism and paralysis of analysis can also kill.

Get'R Done.
Die already.
She probably went in to get another infusion of baby’s blood while they could still blame the dead babies on the virus. Never let a crisis got to waste and all.
Let's hope the old bat is septic, and will be on one of those defective ventilators Cuomo is shipping out by the dozens pretty soon.
jerry
Never wish for anyone’s death, even if you hate them.
Could we get a visit volunteer, someone rona19 positive
Originally Posted by nighthawk
A little hyperbole. Ignored a thread not long ago where everyone was dumping on Roberts for not being a far right ideologue. I think based on Roberts not voting for cert on a Second Amendment case. Like I said I pretty much ignored the thread - no poster revealed any Supreme Court acumen. (Of course the fact that Ruth is universally considered a Constitutional scholar and an exceptional legal analyst is irrelevant. Some people here keep lining up to send flowers. We simply don't like her conclusions. Never mind the argument.)

She's a constitutional scholar all right. The Liberal interpretation of the Constitution, instead of framers' interpretation.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Trump is eligible for a second term.

Obama wasn't.

THAT is the difference.

It's not that hard to figure out. Try it some time.

It keeps the REAL lame duck's from throwing schidt on the walls before they leave. (At least in the SC)

A dem controlled senate would have confirmed a very liberal justice as Obama headed out the door.

Book it!
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Trump is eligible for a second term.

Obama wasn't.

THAT is the difference.

It's not that hard to figure out. Try it some time.

It keeps the REAL lame duck's from throwing schidt on the walls before they leave. (At least in the SC)

A dem controlled senate would have confirmed a very liberal justice as Obama headed out the door.

Book it!

We can only hope the current Senate could get it done in days if need be.
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Trump is eligible for a second term.

Obama wasn't.

THAT is the difference.

It's not that hard to figure out. Try it some time.

It keeps the REAL lame duck's from throwing schidt on the walls before they leave. (At least in the SC)

A dem controlled senate would have confirmed a very liberal justice as Obama headed out the door.

Book it!

We can only hope the current Senate could get it done in days if need be.

Sure, they *could*.

If they don’t accuse her of sexual harassment.
I kept quite for too long, I was ashamed to admit it But now most go public with this horrible truth. RGB sexually assaulted me! Yes she slid her wrinkled up hand over my buttocks as I stopped by her hospital bed on my morning rounds.
Oh the shame! I can never enjoy a kiwi again
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Trump is eligible for a second term.

Obama wasn't.

THAT is the difference.

It's not that hard to figure out. Try it some time.

It keeps the REAL lame duck's from throwing schidt on the walls before they leave. (At least in the SC)


I understand the conditions, still thing the way it went down was WRONG. For the last year of a presidency, he still has constitutional duties to perform. Appointing SC Justices is one. Do it. Senate has the duty to hold a hearing, they refused. Sorry wrong way to play it, hold the hearings, it's their responsibility. Not doing so, for close to a year because he wouldn't be president after that, was wrong. What else do you not let a lame duck in the last year do? How about 2 years?

D's will pull the same crap and R's will look like hypocrites. They played it wrong 4 years ago, they may get bit by it now.

The Senate is what would keep a lame duck from throwing the schidt on the wall. Let the lame duck throw, Senate does it's job and nothing sticks.
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The Senate is what would keep a lame duck from throwing the schidt on the wall. Let the lame duck throw, Senate does it's job and nothing sticks.


That's exactly what happened.

The senate knew Obama was throwing schidt on the walls.

They stopped him.
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH


D's will pull the same crap and R's will look like hypocrites.


Fu^ck the Demons; time the R's played hardball. If they can muster the votes, then just do it.

MM
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH


D's will pull the same crap and R's will look like hypocrites.


Fu^ck the Demons; time the R's played hardball. If they can muster the votes, then just do it.

MM


That's the problem.

Collins, Murkowski and Romney would likely not support a vote.
I don't wish her death.
A long painful incapacitating illness would be sufficient.
One where she would be unable to continue undermining the constitution.
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Collins, Murkowski and Romney would likely not support a vote.


It's way past time to take a page from the dems' playbook and primary those waffling snowflakes- - - -repeatedly if necessary!
Jerry
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Collins, Murkowski and Romney would likely not support a vote.


It's way past time to take a page from the dems' playbook and primary those waffling snowflakes- - - -repeatedly if necessary!
Jerry




If you mean "Primary" as in planting a 9 iron upside their heads I'm in!
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

The reality is to apply the constitution to many of todays issues, you have to use opinion applied to desire. So political leanings come in.

Also, if she passes away, you don't actually expect a Trump appointment until after November do you? Remember Obama trying to appoint one in his lame duck year? R's wouldn't hold hearings until after the election. Same will happen here.


Trump is eligible for a second term.

Obama wasn't.

THAT is the difference.

It's not that hard to figure out. Try it some time.

It keeps the REAL lame duck's from throwing schidt on the walls before they leave. (At least in the SC)


I understand the conditions, still thing the way it went down was WRONG. For the last year of a presidency, he still has constitutional duties to perform. Appointing SC Justices is one. Do it. Senate has the duty to hold a hearing, they refused. Sorry wrong way to play it, hold the hearings, it's their responsibility. Not doing so, for close to a year because he wouldn't be president after that, was wrong. What else do you not let a lame duck in the last year do? How about 2 years?

D's will pull the same crap and R's will look like hypocrites. They played it wrong 4 years ago, they may get bit by it now.

The Senate is what would keep a lame duck from throwing the schidt on the wall. Let the lame duck throw, Senate does it's job and nothing sticks.

Sorry, but the Ds already had done the same, so there is/was no hypocrisy and it was in fact payback.
1] Trump is eligible for reelection;
2] Trump's party holds the Senate.

3] Everyone has long ago learned that NO MATTER the circumstances, the Dems will cry foul. There simply is no avoiding it. Case in point, Kavanaugh. The benefits of Trump and Turtle pushing through another SCOTUS Justice would long endure beyond the poopstorm the Dems will raise.

All that said. It's already May.

To add, I truly hope RBG is off the SCOTUS post haste, and I also truly hope that she lives many more years.
Who wants to be as old as her and still working...to h wit dat !
Anything they need to come up with to keep her from showing up in court and being scrutinized, I'm thinking. She may forget and hold her head up, unlike the original RBG.
Originally Posted by NVhntr
I don't wish her death.
A long painful incapacitating illness would be sufficient.
One where she would be unable to continue undermining the constitution.

You guys are kinder than I. This woman , whose job is to make sure the constitution is followed, disagrees with that document, doing whatever she can to effect legislation that changes the intent. She can die now, and I'll be happy. She is my enemy, and a very dangerous one. She has betrayed the country by using her trusted position to UNDERMINE the Constitution, not defend it.
Originally Posted by NVhntr
I don't wish her death.
A long painful incapacitating illness would be sufficient.
One where she would be unable to continue undermining the constitution.

You guys are kinder than I. This woman , whose job is to make sure the constitution is followed, disagrees with that document, doing whatever she can to effect legislation that changes the intent. She can die now, and I'll be happy. She is my enemy, and a very dangerous one. She has betrayed the country by using her trusted position to UNDERMINE the Constitution, not defend it.
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH


D's will pull the same crap and R's will look like hypocrites.


Fu^ck the Demons; time the R's played hardball. If they can muster the votes, then just do it.

MM

Not hypocritical because if the Dems would have controlled the House and the Senate at the time they would have dang sure put in a liberal Judge.
Just a political reality and consequence of elections. Even if it was I could care less how the republicans might seem or look after the horse crap the Dems have been involved with the last 3 years. There is too much long term concerns on that court to worry in the least about it.
The old bird is out of the hospital.

She must share some common ancestry with Kieth Richards.
Originally Posted by nighthawk


Yes, there's only one side to a coin and only my position to br considered. For everyone else is wrong. And nothing you say, no point you can make, will change my mind. I think that point of view lead to the demise of the Neanderthals.


neanderthals were bred out of existence and absorbed by the species that displaced them.
neanderthals walked the earth for 350,000 years and its difficult to find much in the way of evidence that they existed.
Homo Sapiens has been here roughly 200,000 years and if the condition of the planet counts for anything, have made a complete mess of parts of it.
please consider that your disdain of Neanderthal is undeserved.
She said she'd never retire as long as Eisenhower was president.
I find it interesting how the religion of SCOTUS judges has changed over time. Once they were all Protestants. Then they "gave" a seat to a Catholic... a little later a Jew. Now, with 2% of the US population Jewish 33% of the judges are Jewish.

And there is only a single possibly-Protestant judge. But generally the remaining 66% are Catholics.

We have had no Jewish Presidents and just one Catholic...
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