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Posted By: Old Ornery Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
For those in states whose governor decides to use contact tracing via cell phone signals, either leave the phone at home when going out, or get a faraday “bag”,

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Posted By: slumlord Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
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Posted By: Paul_M Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
It's really not a tinfoil conspiracy. They do plan on tracking down people via cell phone. Right now it appears voluntary, but for how long?
How long before they do this to people who were in the supermarket at the same time as someone who tested positive, but never even came close to them?
Doubt it? Read this.
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/n...d-19-contact-tracing-technology-2020-04/
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Apple, Google partner on Covid-19 contact tracing Bluetooth technology

Apple and Google are throwing their joint weight behind the use of Bluetooth technology to help governments and health agencies reduce the spread of Covid-19. And the focus is on contact tracing.
The aim is that Contact Tracing makes it possible to limit the spread of the virus by alerting participants of recent possible exposure to someone who has subsequently tested positive. And the companies say user privacy and security are central to the design of their proposed approach.

The image above envisages scenarios around privacy-safe contact tracing using Bluetooth Low Energy.

In countries where the impact of Covid-19 has been minimised – for example Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore – contract tracing has been a major element of a national strategy.

APIs for Android and iOS

The companies write:


A number of leading public health authorities, universities, and NGOs around the world have been doing important work to develop opt-in contact tracing technology. To further this cause, Apple and Google will be launching a comprehensive solution that includes application programming interfaces (APIs) and operating system-level technology to assist in enabling contact tracing. Given the urgent need, the plan is to implement this solution in two steps while maintaining strong protections around user privacy.

The APIs will be released in May.

Both companies will release APIs that enable interoperability between Android and iOS devices using apps from public health authorities. These official apps will be available for users to download via their respective app stores.

And in “coming months”, Apple and Google will work to enable a broader Bluetooth-based contact tracing platform by building this functionality into their underlying platforms.

This is a more robust solution than an API and would allow more individuals to participate, if they choose to opt in, as well as enable interaction with a broader ecosystem of apps and government health authorities.

Privacy, transparency, and consent are of utmost importance in this effort, and we look forward to building this functionality in consultation with interested stakeholders. We will openly publish information about our work for others to analyze.

Bluetooth Low Energy

Their proposal for privacy-safe contact tracing using Bluetooth Low Energy, for example, would require explicit user consent. While it doesn’t collect personally identifiable information or user location data, a list of people you’ve been in contact with never leaves your phone (detected via Bluetooth LE).

People who test positive are not identified to other users, Google or Apple – the information would only be used for contact tracing by public health authorities for Covid-19 pandemic management. The system would work equally well across Android phones and iPhones.
Contact tracing cryptography

The companies have also provided a technical specification for cryptographic key scheduling for a new
privacy-preserving Bluetooth protocol to support Contact Tracing.

It complements, they say, the existing Bluetooth specification, and is involved with the scheduling of the Bluetooth protocol elements called ‘advertisements‘ and the higher-level lifecycle of the protocol.
Resources

The companies highlight these links:

Privacy-safe contact tracing using Bluetooth Low Energy
Contact Tracing Bluetooth Specification
Contact Tracing Cryptography Specification
Android Contact Tracing API

They also salute the work of software developers, who will play their part in the fight against the current global pandemic:

Across the world, governments and health authorities are working together to find solutions to the Covid-19 pandemic, to protect people and get society back up and running. Software developers are contributing by crafting technical tools to help combat the virus and save lives. In this spirit of collaboration, Google and Apple are announcing a joint effort to enable the use of Bluetooth technology to help governments and health agencies reduce the spread of the virus, with user privacy and security central to the design.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Just one more reason why I'll never get a smart phone... I can remove the battery in my flipper in about 15 seconds.. Let 'em track THAT, the dickheads...
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Already have a blocking bag. Also, you can just shut off the Bluetooth . A few wraps of aluminum foil work as well as a commercial bag.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
They'll be tracing mine to the end table where it lives.
Posted By: FatCity67 Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Just turn off bluetooth and geo location services on your phone. Most Android as well you can disable the apps that run those services as well.

Understand though if you have your phone on automatic updates you'll need to disable them repeatedly as they will usually be turned on and or enabled as part of the update process.

Same with Apple devices.

Phone can still be tracked thru cell towers though but not to the same degree for contact tracing.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Mine lives atop the microwave and I've likely been declared dead. I'm not packing a phone even if the government gives me one.
Posted By: 16bore Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Data = $

If I know where 4 people have been in the past 2 weeks, it’s useless. If I know where 200M have been, it’s priceless.

CV-19 or no CV-19.
Posted By: Stickfight Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?
Posted By: sse Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?

screw that
Posted By: 284LUVR Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
1984 to a degree that's soooo scary. Unibomber was insane but spot on.Big brother gonna be your shadow
Posted By: MD521 Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Samsung has a new phone that you can take the battery out of it. It comes with 2 batteries when bought new. It's a Galaxy X Cover-Pro, and they're not to expensive. I'm going to check them out when we get loose.
Posted By: Stickfight Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Unibomber was insane


You take that back!
Posted By: Traveler52 Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?

My Name is Jose $##%^
I live on one A$$ hole way
Posted By: 16bore Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?


Not a phuqqin chance. Won’t matter anyway, bank card receipts take care off all that. Your bank knows everywhere you go, I’m sure Uncle Sam can have a look whenever he wants.
Posted By: 3584ELK Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
My name is SCREW U INSLEE...my address is 100 NUNYA BIZNESS AVE....and my phone number is 1-888-PISS OFF
Posted By: reivertom Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Don't phones have a way to turn them off? If it's in a bag that blocks signals anyway, it might as well be off and save the battery.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?



I'd tell 'em "Mickey Mouse, Disneyland" Where's my table?
Originally Posted by 16bore
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?


Not a phuqqin chance. Won’t matter anyway, bank card receipts take care off all that. Your bank knows everywhere you go, I’m sure Uncle Sam can have a look whenever he wants.
Not if ya pay with cash... Eff 'em...
Posted By: WTF Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by Redneck
Just one more reason why I'll never get a smart phone... I can remove the battery in my flipper in about 15 seconds.. Let 'em track THAT, the dickheads...


Yep, same here. Dont need no fu cking pocket computer to make a phone call.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
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bank card receipts take care off all that.


Pretty much use cash when traveling. Bank card might cue them about my online buys from home though.

Like the best tracker for me are the traffic cams one sees at major intersections.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Restaurants in Washington state will be required to gather some of your info if you dine in.

https://archive.is/zgXPR

I wonder if other retail will follow suit?


I will not patronize those restaurants...................no matter where they are.

This fu^ckin' Big Brother Control schitt has about gone far enough.

MM
Posted By: Stickfight Re: Contact Tracing - 05/14/20
Looks like other retailers won't have to follow suit.....the State of Washington will "help" people who refuse to prove they are COVID-free or self isolate by not allowing them to leave home:

https://www.activistpost.com/2020/0...owed-to-leave-home-to-get-groceries.html

Ouch.Who needs a "family support person"?
Posted By: slumlord Re: Contact Tracing - 05/15/20
For God sakes don’t go to Walmart, the popo cruise the parking lots with license plate scanners.
Posted By: Squidge Re: Contact Tracing - 05/15/20
U.S Senate votes to extend government surveillance tools

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As it considered amendments on Wednesday, the Senate blocked by one vote an amendment that would have prevented law enforcement from collecting information on Americans’ internet habits without a warrant.
Posted By: sse Re: Contact Tracing - 05/21/20

Apple releases iOS 13.5 with COVID-19 contact tracing feature,...

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Apple also included a new COVID Exposure Notification feature in iOS 13.5 on the iPhone. The feature is part of Apple and Google's previously announced partnership that enables a contact tracing API for health officials to build apps and use to fight the spread of COVID-19.

It provides an anonymous way to alert others you've come in contact with over the last 14 days should you contract COVID-19 and test positive, as well as a means for you to be alerted if someone you've been in contact with has tested positive. We have a complete breakdown of how the feature works and attempts to maintain anonymity.

The feature is found in Settings > Privacy > Health > COVID-19 Exposure Logging. Until you install an approved app from a public health authority the feature will remain turned off. We're unaware of any apps that work with the API at the moment, but now that the update is out, we expect that to change.


oh, really
Posted By: Redneck Re: Contact Tracing - 05/21/20
Eff these 'smart phones'....
Posted By: StoneCutter Re: Contact Tracing - 05/21/20
Originally Posted by reivertom
Don't phones have a way to turn them off? If it's in a bag that blocks signals anyway, it might as well be off and save the battery.


This was my first thought. You can turn off the Bluetooth and GPS, but they might still be able to track you somehow. Not sure. If you turn the phone off, they probably can't track it.
Posted By: bbassi Re: Contact Tracing - 05/21/20
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
Originally Posted by reivertom
Don't phones have a way to turn them off? If it's in a bag that blocks signals anyway, it might as well be off and save the battery.


This was my first thought. You can turn off the Bluetooth and GPS, but they might still be able to track you somehow. Not sure. If you turn the phone off, they probably can't track it.


Yes they can.

They give you the ability to "turn it off" as a feel good for you, but they absolutely can find that phone if they want to bad enough.
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