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Chinese researchers had previously suggested asymptomatic people might transmit the virus but had not presented clear-cut evidence. “There’s no doubt after reading [the NEJM] paper that asymptomatic transmission is occurring,” Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told journalists. “This study lays the question to rest.”

But now, it turns out that information was wrong. The Robert Koch Institute (RKI), the German government’s public health agency, has written a letter to NEJM to set the record straight, even though it was not involved in the paper.

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So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Stick that piece of s.hit Fauci in a janitor closet for the rest of his “career”
Not aware of a single individual that's been correct 100% of the time.
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.
So, does that mean you can/can't get it from someone who
does not yet show symptoms?

Or, that someone can be an indefinite carrier, spreading it
over time, never getting sick?

CBS Sunday showed a guy from the cruise ship. He was over it
for weeks, but still showing positive on the DNA test. They didn't
know why, and were going to culture his specimens to see if
it was active, or dead. I haven't heard a thing about that since,
And it's been 3+ weeks.
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

That would be preferable,rather than listening to your former boyfriend Bathhouse Barry........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Why would anyone believe Fauci? He came up with the theory that AIDS didn't have any behavior connections.
Gee...

This all sounds so familiar.
Originally Posted by 1minute
Not aware of a single individual that's been correct 100% of the time.

I agree but Fauci hasn't been right yet.
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

The butthurt is strong with this one.
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.


Cause he is a Soros puppet. These bastards should all be deported to some schitthole that they can destroy at their leisure
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.

Fouci isn't the president. Just an advisor. The decision to do that lies with the president.
Referenced article is 3.5 months old. Any other documented empirical data for or against asymptomatic transmission since then ?

Fauci is nothing more than an apparatchik.
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.


We know it was the wrong move. I knew it was the wrong move back when it was just being contemplated. The numbers of dead bodies NOT being stacked like cordwood agree with me. Just roughly the same number of dead as would be expected during cold/flu season. (By the way, the USA and other nations all the sudden became nigh immune to pneumonia and seasonal flu this year, according to the gov't numbers. Funny, that.)

SHOW ME THE BODIES if you want to convince me otherwise. Stories of megadeath WITHOUT bodies are just fables and propaganda propagated by the ignorant, gullible and malevolent.
Can anyone name anything Fauci has been right about?
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


.... and drink a quart of Clorox tomorrow - it'll kill the virus.
Originally Posted by slowmover12
Can anyone name anything Fauci has been right about?


Fauci must be a Democrat. see: https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12...ic-health-official-warns-of-catastrophe/
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


.... and drink a quart of Clorox tomorrow - it'll kill the virus.



Once again you prove what an idiot you truly are!!! You’re a dumbass!
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.

well some states did nothing and were no worse off if not better. Not a one size fits all but damnit, if masks are good enough now, then they were back then. Even though masks do almost nothing and common sense is the best thing to use but I'm afraid common sense isnt even in the dictionary for most now.
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.



NO he isnt . Thats like saying my crazy neighbor is repsonible. She's been calling for a shutdown since like 2014.

Fauci recommended. Trump and the Governors are responsible.

And FYI, I am voting for turmp this november, so dont count me as some anti trumper.

But Fauci has no power. none. He can merely suggest and advise. He can 'do' nothing.
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.



NO he isnt . Thats like saying my crazy neighbor is repsonible. She's been calling for a shutdown since like 2014.

Fauci recommended. Trump and the Governors are responsible.

And FYI, I am voting for turmp this november, so dont count me as some anti trumper.

But Fauci has no power. none. He can merely suggest and advise. He can 'do' nothing.



The shut downs were at the town, county, and state level. Trump can take some credit too.
Originally Posted by Springcove
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


.... and drink a quart of Clorox tomorrow - it'll kill the virus.



Once again you prove what an idiot you truly are!!! You’re a dumbass!
........................oldguns and djs,,,,,,,,Two more Trump hating clowns.

oldguns....Fauci has been wrong in every instance and prediction.....He even said and was documented ON VIDEO TAPE during Jan, Feb and even in early March, that there was nothing to worry about in America from the Corona virus.....So your "lets all listen to Trump" comment is probably very correct...We should have...NONE of the virus projection model #s were correct.

djs....Trump never said drink a quart of clorox. But you as a Trump hater and as all Trump haters, you find ways of taking ones remarks totally and completely out of context. And btw. Experiments are going on right now and have been going on, where very small dose sprays of certain disinfectants into or onto the lung tissue are curing people of many forms of viruses including Corona....So Trump was not off base. But you damned Trump haters as usual were.
Originally Posted by 1minute
Not aware of a single individual that's been correct 100% of the time.


How about wrong 100% of the time?
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.

well some states did nothing and were no worse off if not better. Not a one size fits all but damnit, if masks are good enough now, then they were back then. Even though masks do almost nothing and common sense is the best thing to use but I'm afraid common sense isnt even in the dictionary for most now.


Mask stop the "covid" as well as a chain link fence stops a mosquito......... smile
You pass the common sense test rost495
Killer virus escapes from a level 4 virology lab but I'm sure your mask made from an old t-shirt is gonna help....

If the masks ready did chit, everyone would have simply worn them and gone on with life, weeks ago.
Those mask are like wearing a petri dish on your face......
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How about wrong 100% of the time


Can't claim that one either. Even our weatherman hits it once in a while.
Fauci is proving to be just another power-drunk, piece of schitt govt bureaucrat who just happens to have M.D. after his name.
Falsie is a liberal from way back.

And 'fire members are confused because every recommendation he's made has been aimed at destroying the country.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Falsie is a liberal from way back.

And 'fire members are confused because every recommendation he's made has been aimed at destroying the country.


Yep. Just another Deep State Hillary loving POS out to destroy America!
After this is over, and Trump exposes it for the Illegal Coup that it was, he should be taken out and hanged. 😡
Dr. FALSELY.....

His "Apex".
Just go the fugg away old man...
Fugging Liberal Socialist Democrats......
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.


And yet, so far, he hasn't even been close to right about anything........................

He should just go away.

MM
Nobody really knows cshit.
Hate to rain on your parade but this is what's known as an anecdote. It doesn't prove anything one way or the other and even your article acknowledges that:

"The fact that the paper got it wrong doesn’t mean transmission from asymptomatic people doesn’t occur."

The coronavirus has become the mother of all political footballs. Send it to DocRocket and let's see what he says.

Fauci's words have an incredible amount of influence now and he is the MSN Trump card..Look what his remarks did to the stock market and airline stocks last week.


Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Fauci is 100% responsible for shutting down the U.S. economy and keeping it shut down.



NO he isnt . Thats like saying my crazy neighbor is repsonible. She's been calling for a shutdown since like 2014.

Fauci recommended. Trump and the Governors are responsible.

And FYI, I am voting for turmp this november, so dont count me as some anti trumper.

But Fauci has no power. none. He can merely suggest and advise. He can 'do' nothing.
The article linked by the OP was published February 3, 2020.
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


You might try reading the article.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Hate to rain on your parade but this is what's known as an anecdote. It doesn't prove anything one way or the other and even your article acknowledges that:

"The fact that the paper got it wrong doesn’t mean transmission from asymptomatic people doesn’t occur."

The coronavirus has become the mother of all political footballs. Send it to DocRocket and let's see what he says.


Do what you want, but I rely on Deflave for all matters medical and public health related.
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


.... and drink a quart of Clorox tomorrow - it'll kill the virus.


I think a cup would fix you right up. Gee, what president said Hydroxychloroquine seemed to work well but was attacked for that by your commie buds on the left. He will be proven right, again.

You, OTOH, will be proven to be a Dumb Jack Schiett, again.
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Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.


We know it was the wrong move. I knew it was the wrong move back when it was just being contemplated. The numbers of dead bodies NOT being stacked like cordwood agree with me. Just roughly the same number of dead as would be expected during cold/flu season. (By the way, the USA and other nations all the sudden became nigh immune to pneumonia and seasonal flu this year, according to the gov't numbers. Funny, that.)

SHOW ME THE BODIES if you want to convince me otherwise. Stories of megadeath WITHOUT bodies are just fables and propaganda propagated by the ignorant, gullible and malevolent.


OK, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. No offence, but your argument doesn't make sense.

We shut down the whole freakin' country so that we could "flatten the curve", not overwhelm the hospitals, and not have bodies stacked like cord wood. People would argue that because we shut everything down that we "flattened the curve", the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, and we don't have bodies stacked up like cord wood. They would say that we didn't experience the megadeath because of the shut down. So there's no bodies to show you because instead of having a million of them, we only have 85000. Personally, I think their original estimates were total BS to begin with.

Here's my argument. Now that the curve has been flattened, the hospitals aren't overwhelmed, and bodies aren't stacked up like cord wood, it's time to open things back up. They accomplished what they wanted, along with destroying the economy, so we need to turn this ship around now.

We'll never know whether or not the shut down prevented the spread of the Kung Flu. I'd be inclined to think it probably did to a degree. However, I'm not sure if it was worth it. Fauci has been wrong around every corner. He's an advisor, so he needs to stick to advising and stop commenting about it on every MSM show he can find.
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.


We know it was the wrong move. I knew it was the wrong move back when it was just being contemplated. The numbers of dead bodies NOT being stacked like cordwood agree with me. Just roughly the same number of dead as would be expected during cold/flu season. (By the way, the USA and other nations all the sudden became nigh immune to pneumonia and seasonal flu this year, according to the gov't numbers. Funny, that.)

SHOW ME THE BODIES if you want to convince me otherwise. Stories of megadeath WITHOUT bodies are just fables and propaganda propagated by the ignorant, gullible and malevolent.


OK, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. No offence, but your argument doesn't make sense.

We shut down the whole freakin' country so that we could "flatten the curve", not overwhelm the hospitals, and not have bodies stacked like cord wood. People would argue that because we shut everything down that we "flattened the curve", the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, and we don't have bodies stacked up like cord wood. So there's no bodies to show you because instead of having a million of them, we only have 85000.

Here's my argument. Now that the curve has been flattened, the hospitals aren't overwhelmed, and bodies aren't stacked up like cord wood, it's time to open things back up. They accomplished what they wanted, along with destroying the economy, so we need to turn this ship around now.

We'll never know whether or not the shut down prevented the spread of the Kung Flu. I'd be inclined to think it probably did to a degree. However, I'm not sure if it was worth it. Fauci has been wrong around every corner. He's an advisor, so he needs to stick to advising and stop commenting about it on every MSM show he can find.


Well said.
I think Fauci likes being in front of the camera to get the word out
Originally Posted by hookeye
I think Fauci likes being in front of the camera to get the word out


I think you're right.
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by oldguns
So...lets all listen to Trump.........lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


.... and drink a quart of Clorox tomorrow - it'll kill the virus.


Did he give $3.7 million to Wuhan Labs, like your hero the Zero?

$150 billion to Iran. Oh, you never thought about questioning that.

Remember Zero saying Hydroxychloroquine looked very promising? I didnt think so.
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Problem is, we will never know the truth about any of this, nor will we know if the shelter in place was the right move or the wrong move. To many invested in their opinions to get at the truth.


We know it was the wrong move. I knew it was the wrong move back when it was just being contemplated. The numbers of dead bodies NOT being stacked like cordwood agree with me. Just roughly the same number of dead as would be expected during cold/flu season. (By the way, the USA and other nations all the sudden became nigh immune to pneumonia and seasonal flu this year, according to the gov't numbers. Funny, that.)

SHOW ME THE BODIES if you want to convince me otherwise. Stories of megadeath WITHOUT bodies are just fables and propaganda propagated by the ignorant, gullible and malevolent.


OK, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. No offence, but your argument doesn't make sense.

We shut down the whole freakin' country so that we could "flatten the curve", not overwhelm the hospitals, and not have bodies stacked like cord wood. People would argue that because we shut everything down that we "flattened the curve", the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, and we don't have bodies stacked up like cord wood. They would say that we didn't experience the megadeath because of the shut down. So there's no bodies to show you because instead of having a million of them, we only have 85000. Personally, I think their original estimates were total BS to begin with.

Here's my argument. Now that the curve has been flattened, the hospitals aren't overwhelmed, and bodies aren't stacked up like cord wood, it's time to open things back up. They accomplished what they wanted, along with destroying the economy, so we need to turn this ship around now.

We'll never know whether or not the shut down prevented the spread of the Kung Flu. I'd be inclined to think it probably did to a degree. However, I'm not sure if it was worth it. Fauci has been wrong around every corner. He's an advisor, so he needs to stick to advising and stop commenting about it on every MSM show he can find.


Give credit where credit is due.

My valiant garden gnomes--installed soon after Kung Flu became a thing--were responsible for averting Kung Flu Megadeath(1). Not any shut down social-distance mask-wearing mumbojumbo. My garden gnomes demand recognition as heroes. Please go out on your porch and bang pots in their honor like the Brits do for nurses and doctors.

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Post hoc ergo proctor hoc is no way to reason, stonecutter. Your argument is the one lacking in reason and requires one of the logical fallacies so ancient it has its own name. OTOH, my argument relies on easily counted dead bodies. Of which there are no more than we expect in the usual cold/flu season. To get even that many, CDC and insurance companies have directed that any death that looks kind-sorta like Kung Flu be counted as Kung Flu. Even if in previous non-social-panic(2) years they would have been counted as dying from pneumonia or flu.



(1) They have also fought off the invisible miniature rhinos that threatened to eat up my azaleas. My proof being that my azaleas are perfectly healthy and not collected in a mound of invisible mini rhino poop. Post hoc ergo proctor hoc FTW!

(2) This might help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_panic
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A social panic is a state where a social or community group reacts negatively and in an extreme or irrational manner to unexpected or unforeseen changes in their expected social status quo...

The Elite-Engineered Model explains that social panics are exaggerated or invented problems created by elites or people who are considered higher among others in society. These type of people produce fear among the other classes over an issue that is not considered dangerous to the society. The reason for these actions is to redirect the attention away from the problems that impact the elite or those in power...

The media plays a crucial part in delivering social reaction. According to Stanley Cohen, there are three processes that the media expresses: Exaggeration and distortion, prediction, and symbolization...

In this process, the media can "over-report" with their choice of words...Furthermore, the headlines used by the media might cause society to act irrationally to a story about minor issues...

This is where the media speculates that an incident might occur again. The media can report that an event will occur in the future, which is not always the case...

This involves stereotypes, words and images that possess symbolic powers that can cause different emotions...
jfruser, don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I think they over reacted with the shut down. Now, they continue to over react by keeping the shut down going. I'm just saying that the proponents of the shut down, along with the MSM, would argue that because we shut the country down that millions of people didn't die. Thus there are no dead bodies to show you because they believe that the shut down worked. Now that their plan worked (in their eyes), I think that it's time to re-open the economy.

I need to get some of those garden gnomes because those damned miniature rhinos have been tearing up my azaleas. grin
Stonecutter,

My sarcasmometer has been off of late. Apologies.

Will speak with the local garden gnome commander about an air drop, though his boys have been mighty busy with an infestation of ethereal diminuative gnus down the street. As everyone knows, the enmity between gnomes and gnus is severe owing to the claim, by the gnomes, to the exclusive use of the silent G. Prying gnomes away from that conflict may be difficult.
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
So, does that mean you can/can't get it from someone who
does not yet show symptoms?


It's all a lie from the Democratic leftists making every last attempt to destroy our rights, our Constitution, our economy & our nation.
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