Another Covid fact blown out of the water...

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

It is so confusing!!

If the first tests were accurate
If it wasn't another strain
If it was even Covid
If it wasn't a relapse.

But maybe....

So many ifs, so little proof.

Originally Posted by las

If the first tests were accurate
If it wasn't another strain
If it was even Covid
If it wasn't a relapse.

But maybe....

So many ifs, so little proof.

Tell ya one damned thing:
COVID-19 IS NOT THE FLU, especially the Spanish flu....
It's no smallpox either......

If someone can catch the Coivid a second time the means that there will be no vaccine and no immunity after the initial infection..

Not good and it does prove that one cannot hide from it.

A cure is what is needed.. Hydroxychloroquine being a good starting point.

Actually it's not much more than a common cold to those other than the snowflakes.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Greyghost,
I highly recommend you quarantine and don't leave the house........ ever again
Better safe than sorry...

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

How many consecutive negative tests before they returned to duty, and which test?

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Greyghost,
I highly recommend you quarantine and don't leave the house........ ever again
Better safe than sorry...

My thoughts too, way too dangerous out here in the big bad world.

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

How many consecutive negative tests before they returned to duty, and which test?

Don't go analyzing it, just confuses the issue.

Oh well.

All of this discussion sidesteps the central fact: no one defined “victory” when we shut down and because of that many tyrants have over played their hands.

The race has been in existence for millions of years and will continue for millions more. Epidemics and pandemics have come and gone and people have died of them and will continue to do so.

Shutting down our entire economy is and always was a fools errand.

Life causes death; best we can do is be prudent in our measures to stay safe. Safetyism’s nanny state “solution” was nothing of the sort.

No point in staying alive if we’re not allowed to live.

That is very bad news. It wouldn't surprise me if the effects are life long even for mild cases. In your balls, they have the same receptors the virus finds in lungs. They have found it can pass through your bloodstream. There is a possibility that it can mess up your sperm , so it could effect generations. This isn't a problem for us old pharts , we have grand kids.

Originally Posted by downwindtracker2

That is very bad news. It wouldn't surprise me if the effects are life long even for mild cases. In your balls, they have the same receptors the virus finds in lungs. They have found it can pass through your bloodstream. There is a possibility that it can mess up your sperm , so it could effect generations. This isn't a problem for us old pharts , we have grand kids.

Probably a Chinese plot to depopulate their country that went terrible wrong.

What treatment did they receive, especially since this was early on. What was their viral load? Severe? How accurate was the initial test? - some weren't. How accurate were subsequent tests - unknown. Have they had sufficient time to develop antibodies? (probably not). Were they treated and sequestered together?

Let's not get all carried away just yet.

Success with plasma treatment should be a pretty good indicator of immune response.

And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC:

Link

Phil

Sero coversion is not immediate. HIV, for example is up to 12 weeks. Take the Hep B vaccine. It takes three doses. Initial, @ 1 month and @ 6 months. and then checked for sero conversion. So let's not go off the deep on this report alone.

Here's a little help in simplified form:

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Seroconversion
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In immunology, seroconversion is the time period during which a specific antibody develops and becomes detectable in the blood. After seroconversion has occurred, the disease can be detected in blood tests for the antibody. During an infection or immunization, antigens enter the blood, and the immune system begins to produce antibodies in response. Before seroconversion, the antigen itself may or may not be detectable, but the antibody is, by definition, absent. During seroconversion, the antibody is present but not yet detectable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seroconversion

Originally Posted by Greyghost

And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC:

Link

Phil

Much like the MSM you look right past the %'s.
Hint: the %'s matter.

Well, in Tanzania they had a goat and a papaya test positive for COVID19 using those donated Chinese test kits, so there's that...............

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Phils still in his closet wearing his mask and trying to suck his thumb while he whimpers uncontrollably

Originally Posted by Greyghost

And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC:

Link

Phil

A month ago the CDC stated that it was dangerous to wear a mask on their web site and advised not to wear a mask. Goes to\ show you how clueless the politicians at the CDC are.

[quote=las] If the first tests were accurate
If it wasn't another strain
If it was even Covid
If it wasn't a relapse.

But maybe....

So many ifs, so little proof few who tell the truth![ /quote]
Fixed it for you !

Keep running scared Phil, best for you to stay in the house and play on the internet.

Interesting.

From a search I found this posted 2 days ago on NPR

"The U.S. Navy says 13 sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.

In a statement released earlier on Saturday when five sailors were found to have retested positive, the Navy said the sailors had "met rigorous recovery criteria, exceeding CDC guidelines," including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. The statement said the sailors had been monitoring their health and adhered to social-distancing protocols while on board the Roosevelt, which has been docked in Guam following an outbreak infecting hundreds of crew members.

"These five Sailors developed influenza-like illness symptoms and did the right thing reporting to medical for evaluation," the statement said.

The Navy has since confirmed to NPR that an additional eight sailors have retested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total to 13.

The Navy said the sailors were removed from the ship and placed in isolation, and are receiving medical care. A "small number" of sailors who had been in contact with them also were removed, retested and quarantined, officials said.

In an email to NPR, a Navy spokesperson said the sailors with new positive tests are receiving medical support on Naval Base Guam, and none are currently aboard the ship.

Public health experts are trying to learn more about why patients sometimes test positive for the coronavirus after appearing to recover. As NPR has reported, authorities in South Korea have documented a growing number of such cases. Health officials have said they believe the virus may be capable of becoming dormant and later reactivating in some people's immune systems.

Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa, recently told NPR's Nell Greenfieldboyce that patients who recover from the virus may have at least some level of protection from it in the future, but much remains unknown.

"Based on other infections where you get a deep lung infection, you are usually protected against the second infection. If you just have a mild COVID-19 infection that involves your upper airway, maybe it will behave like a common cold coronavirus and maybe you can be reinfected again," Perlman said. "We just really don't know. It's even hard to speculate.""

Originally Posted by Raeford

Originally Posted by Greyghost

And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC:

Link

Phil

Much like the MSM you look right past the %'s.
Hint: the %'s matter.

Now give him a break. He's trying to develop a narrative to why the world needs to stay locked down as long as his dearly beloved California and why the Orange Man is bad. Let's look at his article.

First of all, it's talking about Kawaski's Disease, which is largely a syndrome of unknow causes. There has been reports that we are seeing that in some kids that have been positve for COVID. Why? Well, it's too early to tell. They idea that NO children are getting COVID is perposertorious, but we do have ample date showing the under 21 crowd gets it at a remarkably lower rate than than the older folks. Of course, CNN, doesn't emphasize such things.

Let's take another fact about Kawaski's Syndrome. Cause is unknown. Mostly children under 5 years old, more males than females, triggered by an infection setting up an auto immune response in those genetically predisposed.

So take a look at the article cited an drawen your own conclusion:

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During March and April, cases of COVID-19 rapidly increased in New York City and New York State. In early May 2020, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene received reports of children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome. From April 16 through May 4, 2020, 15 patients aged 2-15 years were hospitalized, many requiring admission to the intensive care unit. As of May 12, 2020, the New York State Department of Health identified 102 patients (including patients from New York City) with similar presentations, many of whom tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 infection by RT-PCR or serologic assay. New York State and New York City continue to receive additional reports of suspected cases.

Additional reports of children presenting with severe inflammatory syndrome with a laboratory-confirmed case of COVID-19 or an epidemiological link to a COVID-19 case have been reported by authorities in other countries.4

It is currently unknown if multisystem inflammatory syndrome is specific to children or if it also occurs in adults.

There is limited information currently available about risk factors, pathogenesis, clinical course, and treatment for MIS-C. CDC is requesting healthcare providers report suspected cases to public health authorities to better characterize this newly recognized condition in the pediatric population.

So sorry, but that post above is a bit misleading or short on info.

What bullshit. One or the other tests threw a false positive. You aren't getting the same virus twice back to back like that. Ever. It’s never happened since the science of epidemiology came to be.

It’s a testing issue

Pre-Covid incidence of Kawasaki’s Disease Rate (per 100,000/year)*

[Linked Image from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6702118/

*Fubarski- Before you go ape-shït about children being expressed as x/10th, these are averages, and therefore aren’t expressed in whole numbers except in select cases, including Israel.

Must have had that COVID stuff ripping through Japan before we knew about it, eh??

Or, how about a legit observation.

Chart above shows an incredibly higher rate in Asia than anywhere else. Anyone want to tell us the ethnic origin of these patients in NY? Are 1/3 of Asian? More? Less?

There are many, many diseases that hit different ethnicities harder than others. Where is that in any of this responsible reporting????

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Phils still in his closet wearing his mask and trying to suck his thumb while he whimpers uncontrollably

Yep. Him and his DemoRat ilk are still hoping to destroy Trump and America. Epic fail as per usual.

Originally Posted by GeoW

If someone can catch the Coivid a second time the means that there will be no vaccine and no immunity after the initial infection..

Not good and it does prove that one cannot hide from it.

A cure is what is needed.. Hydroxychloroquine being a good starting point.

Not enough money to be made by the deep state cabals big pharmaceutical stock holders on Hydroxychloroquine.

I wonder what it costs to get the plasma treatment from those previously affected.

If infected folks dont produce antibodies that fight it, how would plasma treatments be beneficial.

Originally Posted by Greyghost

And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC:

Link

Phil

Which problem will destroy more kids, Capt Clueless, Covid or your pals plans to defeat the US and use your Chinese commie buds to the cut worlds population?

https://theamericanreport.org/2017/...averal-gulftainer-club-k-russia-endgame/

https://theamericanreport.org/2016/...saddam-husseins-nuclear-bomb-mastermind/

Originally Posted by hatari

Must have had that COVID stuff ripping through Japan before we knew about it, eh??

Or, how about a legit observation.

Chart above shows an incredibly higher rate in Asia than anywhere else. Anyone want to tell us the ethnic origin of these patients in NY? Are 1/3 of Asian? More? Less?

There are many, many diseases that hit different ethnicities harder than others. Where is that in any of this responsible reporting????

It's amazing how the most stupid of indoctrinated people can read posts by high IQ types and never get a clue the genius is the least bit smarter than them. Dumb high school kids can take a math test and get an F and then still think they are as smart as and know where it's at as those who make A's.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by GeoW

If someone can catch the Coivid a second time the means that there will be no vaccine and no immunity after the initial infection..

Not good and it does prove that one cannot hide from it.

A cure is what is needed.. Hydroxychloroquine being a good starting point.

Not enough money to be made by the deep state cabals big pharmaceutical stock holders on Hydroxychloroquine.

I wonder what it costs to get the plasma treatment from those previously affected.

If infected folks dont produce antibodies that fight it, how would plasma treatments be beneficial.

Oh, there you go again with logic and real science. That's not fair. You didn't use a model that you created yourself for a predetermined result. What fun is that?

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

I hope you get it so many times it rots your pussy lips slam off. Maybe your meat curtains will resemble swiss cheese.

Originally Posted by hanco

It is so confusing!!

There is very little that we know of this disease; each "discovery" seem to get blown out of the water.

Could it be this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-south-korean-reactivated-cases-not-reinfected-experts-2020-4%3famp

Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin

What bullshit. One or the other tests threw a false positive. You aren't getting the same virus twice back to back like that. Ever. It’s never happened since the science of epidemiology came to be.

It’s a testing issue

Then the far-out claims it has an HIV component and its a bio weapon would be true

Originally Posted by efw

Oh well.

All of this discussion sidesteps the central fact: no one defined “victory” when we shut down and because of that many tyrants have over played their hands.

The race has been in existence for millions of years and will continue for millions more. Epidemics and pandemics have come and gone and people have died of them and will continue to do so.

Shutting down our entire economy is and always was a fools errand.

Life causes death; best we can do is be prudent in our measures to stay safe. Safetyism’s nanny state “solution” was nothing of the sort.

No point in staying alive if we’re not allowed to live.

Well said. I agree.

Latest from the CDC......having your head firmly impacted in your ass is a better preventative than a mask.

Originally Posted by Greyghost

And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC:

Link

Phil

And of course *there’s also knowing simple English grammar.

None of you dumb-[bleep] could read or comprehend a real news story if you were paid to and your life depended on it. You pick and choose to suit your agenda All of the news storys specifically stated the the sailors tested positive again after recovering while quarantined and having multiple negative test. And that they were removed from the ship AFTER having been returned to duty!

Same goes with the CDC report, Specifically stated that the kids had been tested positive with Covid-19 and were showing symptoms similar to Kawasaki’s and many other inflammatory diseases. Didn't say a single damn word about it being Kawasaki's disease or any of the others.

Did any of you get anything other than a first grade education? Read again and stay away from FOX, its eating your brains...

Phil

Originally Posted by Greyghost

None of you dumb-[bleep] could read or comprehend a real news story if you were paid to and your life depended on it. You pick and choose to suit your agenda All of the news storys specifically stated the the sailors tested positive again after recovering while quarantined and having multiple negative test. And that they were removed from the ship AFTER having been returned to duty!

Same goes with the CDC report, Specifically stated that the kids had been tested positive with Covid-19 and were showing symptoms similar to Kawasaki’s and many other inflammatory diseases. Didn't say a single damn word about it being Kawasaki's disease or any of the others.

Did any of you get anything other than a first grade education? Read again and stay away from FOX, its eating your brains...

Phil

You just prove again d what an uneducated idiot you are every time you post you dumb trailer trash KKKalifornia clown .

What COVID-19 Antibody Tests Can and Cannot Tell Us

Recurrent recurrence of positive SARS-CoV-2 RNA in a COVID-19 patient

In South Korea, A Growing Number Of COVID-19 Patients Test Positive After Recovery

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A growing number of recovered COVID-19 patients are relapsing in South Korea, raising new questions and concerns among scientists and health authorities after the country successfully flattened the curve.

By Friday, Korean health authorities had identified 163 patients who tested positive again after a full recovery. The number more than doubled in about a week, up from 74 cases on April 9. Those patients — just over 2% of the country's 7,829 recovered patients — are now back in isolation.

According to Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data on Friday, the age and regional distribution of relapse cases are largely in line with that of the total infections.

To find out reasons for relapse, South Korean health authorities are running a range of tests and vetting various scenarios. The World Health Organization said last week that it is investigating the issue. While a fuller analysis will take at least a few weeks, early findings suggest there can be more than one cause.

Top KCDC officials said in recent briefings that the most likely possibility is reactivation of remaining viruses in patients' systems. If a patient had not developed sufficient immunity against the virus or if a patient's immune system weakens after recovery, the previously undetectable level of virus concentration could rebound. Or the novel coronavirus may be capable of staying dormant before reactivating.

Another possibility is that tests are picking up dead virus particles that are no longer infectious or transmissible. KCDC director-general Jeong Eun-kyeong said Friday that viruses collected from six relapse cases could not be cultivated in isolation, signifying that they are either dead or too small in number.

But some relapsed patients may have living viruses that make them sick. As of Friday, at least 61 developed symptoms, albeit mild.

A live virus is probably also transmissible, according to Jeong, but no secondary transmission by relapsed cases has been reported.

Reinfection through another virus carrier is a less probable scenario, considering that patients are retesting positive not long after they are released from treatment. Jeong said on Friday that relapse cases are detected an average of 13.5 days after recovery. The longest reported interval, however, is 35 days.

KCDC has also mentioned errors in testing or sample collecting as potential causes.

Latest Covid-19 stats for the six county Green River Region here in WKY:

Additional demographic information includes:

Average age: 43

Age range: 7 months old – 93

Male: 55.5 percent

Female: 45.5 percent

GRDHD COVID-19 Cases by Age Group

< 1: 2

1-11: 6

12-19: 24

20-29: 97

30-39: 127

40-49: 123

50-59: 90

60-69: 59

70-79: 25

80+: 19

Total: 572

Originally Posted by Greyghost

None of you dumb-[bleep] could read or comprehend a real news story if you were paid to and your life depended on it. You pick and choose to suit your agenda All of the news storys specifically stated the the sailors tested positive again after recovering while quarantined and having multiple negative test. And that they were removed from the ship AFTER having been returned to duty!

Same goes with the CDC report, Specifically stated that the kids had been tested positive with Covid-19 and were showing symptoms similar to Kawasaki’s and many other inflammatory diseases. Didn't say a single damn word about it being Kawasaki's disease or any of the others.

Did any of you get anything other than a first grade education? Read again and stay away from FOX, its eating your brains...

Phil

So Cowboy, other than just hanging around to argue and stir the pot, what point are you really trying to make? You seem to be the King of cut and paste yourself, cherry picking whatever point you want to make. That's fine. This format lends itself to such.

What is your real point? No, your REAL point?

You are not posting this to tell us that suddenly all the kids will die. We know it affects the under 20 crowd less than the over 40. I don't think anyone contends kids can't get it. Numbers show proportionally it strikes the older population more heavily than the younger. Pretty much indisputable. So where are you going with this? You don't like that I linked pediatric multi system inflammatory syndrome to Kawasaki's, yet that's what experts compare it to. OK, I'll change that to "Kawasaki's like" condition, as that is what it is compared to. So here you go, it's NOT Kawasaki's and we don't know what it is.

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A Pediatric Disease Expert Weighs In On The New Inflammatory Condition Linked To COVID-19
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Wendy Wisner
May 13, 2020, 1:00 AM EDT
As the COVID-19 pandemic has unfolded, one of the slightly more reassuring aspects of it for parents has been that, for the most part, the virus doesn’t affect kids as severely as adults. Yes, kids can catch the virus and spread it to others, but with some exceptions, most children who contract it survive and generally don’t become ill enough to be hospitalized.

But this novel coronavirus is a brand new virus, and the resulting disease of COVID-19 is a brand new disease, and we are still learning the different ways the virus may affect us, including children. And that’s where things get a little more concerning—and downright frightening, if you ask me.

Over the past few weeks, a new condition called “pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome” has emerged. First seen in parts of Europe, there have been about 100 reported cases of it in New York State. 14 other states have reported cases as well. Tragically, three children have died in New York from this syndrome.

This is absolutely awful and extremely worrisome.

The condition, which causes inflammatory symptoms in children—such as fever, rash, swollen lymph nodes, stomach pain, and heart issues—has been linked to COVID-19, because most of children who have it have either tested positive for the virus, or positive for antibodies.

“The majority of patients who have presented with this syndrome have tested positive for SARS-COV-2 or corresponding antibodies,” explains a May 6, 2020 memo from the New York State Department of Health. “Some tested positive on diagnostic, molecular testing for SARS-COV-2, others were positive on serological testing for corresponding antibodies.”

One way that experts are describing “pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome” is that it is similar in ways to Kawasaki disease, another condition that causes inflammatory symptoms, as well as toxic shock syndrome. At the same time, as The New York Times, points out, this new condition isn’t exactly the same as Kawasaki disease, or anything anyone has seen before — and experts are still learning how it affects children, along with the best way to treat it.

You've got 100 reported cases of this. 100. Something medicine and science will work through.

Again, where are you really going with this and other angry posts? Let me guess.

- Trump is President and looks to be easily re-elected
- you're angry about that
- All attempts to rid the country of Trump have failed miserably
- you're angry about that
- The Dem leadership has been a circus instead of a powerful force. Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Hoyer, Schumer have not been effective
- you're angry about that
- HRC blew the greatest opportunity for a continuation of the Liberal/Progressive agenda since the New Deal. Absolutely choked when she had a sure thing.
- you're angry about that
- With HRC defeat, the Left kissed total control of the SCOTUS goodbye for a generation
- you're angry about that
- Trump has moved from success to success, yet you hate his style and loath his personality. The fact that Trump has pushed back against the MSM, Hollywood, Globalization, the Cult of Green Energy, Open Borders only makes your internal strife worse.

Your posts are more a cry of frustration than anything else. Put them through Google translate and they all come out "Orange haired man bad. Anybody who likes him OR the results he's gotten is bad. I'm so frustrated I am compelled to lash out at the world."

News flash - the Left only has itself to blame for Trump. It all started in 1992 with the election of Bill Clinton. "8 for Bill, 8 for Hill". Remember those bumper stickers? The Democrat Party knuckled under to the Clintons as they maneuvered to get Hillary elected. They suppressed any and all Democratic challengers. They let Al Gore run in 2000 to allow Hillary to make some bona fides as Senator by taking Daniel Patrick Moynahan's seat with eyes fully focused on 2008. Once Teddy Kennedy died, the Clintons had no opposition in the Party.

What happened? The Democrats spoke in the Primaries and said they hated her so much they'd prefer an unknown single term Senator from Illinois to "the smartest woman in the world"? Surely America would wake up and come to its senses in 2016 and elect Hillary and then the Liberal/Progressive agenda would rule to 2050 and beyond, right? Nope, it didn't happen. The Democrats hooked their wagon to someone personally more objectionable than Donald Trump. Beyond that, Trump has been effective thwarting the Left's Globalist agenda. He's brought jobs, strengthen the economy, improved trade deals, increased our energy output, calmed down the NORKs and hasn't nuked Iran (as we were warned by Obama). that is, up until the Wuhan Virus shut down the world.

So, this is all "Trump bad. Trump supporters are worse".

OK, I know the score now. Trouble is, I think you've got better arguments. Arguments not concealed behind TDS that you could try to make. I'm waiting for some logical alternatives to Trump and his policies. I don't get them from any of the Dem leaders, or from the Lefties here. All we get is one form or another of "Trump = bad. Resist! Obstruct! Impeach!"

Give me something, some reason to buy the Democrat agenda.

Open Borders? I'm not for it. I see no advantage to having 1/3 of Central America invading our country.

Green Energy? Call me when we get an efficient solar-electric cell. REALLY efficient. It will come, but you can't wish it. Until then, drill and put the Russians and Saudis out of business.

Forgive student loans? Hell no! Too damn many kids use them to go out of state and study nothing of value. A kid from Arizona doesn't need to spend $300,000 to go to Tuft's for a degree in Creative Writing if they need to borrow. The irresponsible way these loans are given and used is mind blowing. How do you begin your career with 6 figures of debt and succeed? Why in God's name should I pay for those loans to be forgiven?

Sanctuary cities? No way! Selective application of the law. Cities only enforcing laws they want to enforce.

So Dude, I'm waiting for a discourse on this sort of thing. Doesn't take cut and paste or name calling. It's not about "gotcha". Not about angry emotions. Try to show me how your way is better. That's what is missing from the Left - no better ideas, just an abject hatred of Trump because he won.

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Thanks Phil, we needed to know, that you wanted us all to know that...

Should CA quarantine the state further, up until the election this fall, to help the democRATs beat Trump...

and if Joe Gets the White House.. then the nation and the economy will be quarantined for the next 4 years...or longer...??

75% of Covid tests give false/inaccurate results.

Originally Posted by hanco

It is so confusing!!

It wouldn't be if the "experts" quit claiming things they don't know and just admitted they didn't know.

Hey don't knock Fox, Murdock is the Hearst of our time, a great genius at making money off media.

Originally Posted by RickyD

Originally Posted by hanco

It is so confusing!!

It wouldn't be if the "experts" quit claiming things they don't know and just admitted they didn't know.

Isn't that the truth!

The only thing we have confirmed, during this entire quagmire is that, as many of us already know, the government isn't the solution to anything.

Just for GayGhost... GFY... Hope you end up the Rona U Fuggin Fugg

Originally Posted by Skankhunt42

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Nope Eyeball er jaguartx now... don't have any buds, especially the likes of your dimwitted ass! I've worked since I was 12, have done many jobs, worked for more than 47 years, quit to take care of ill wife for some 2-1/2 years and have been retired since. I don't hold anything against anyone hunting (but don't believe in sport hunting), probably have more guns than most of you and have done a hell of a lot
In the mean time keep posting your your little old woman attention seeking post, it shows what you're made of.... NOTHING!

Phil

I've worked since before 12 years old but I'm smart enough to know what's going on in the world and to see it for what it is. You're just a dumbfugg from Cali. Indoctrinated to the max, the sooner you leave this world the better off humanity will be. Dipshiet

Remember our friend the bell shaped curve. There are going to be outliers.

Pcr is not serology. Pcr serology is not a serological titer.

It is time to move on and quit spreading fear.

It's going to be ok.

Those scientists are not infallible, they are merely doing the best they can with something nobody has seen before.

Originally Posted by downwindtracker2

Those scientists are not infallible, they are merely doing the best they can with something nobody has seen before.

If you can't see a political agenda you are a fool. You believe the global warming scientist also?

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Your MSM crew has the scoop, Gayghost. Trump didnt have a chance against Hillbiotch. You know, the one N who colluded with Putin and his buds.

You dumbfughk.

Originally Posted by irfubar

Originally Posted by downwindtracker2

Those scientists are not infallible, they are merely doing the best they can with something nobody has seen before.

If you can't see a political agenda you are a fool. You believe the global warming scientist also?

He and Gayghost see it and they like it.

Anyone know of any other viral infections common to man that act in the same manner? Will a small percentage of those who have a common cold or influenza test positive after having “recovered”? It could well be that this is not a new phenomenon.

Originally Posted by Greyghost

Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.

Phil

Here'a a "Fact" you and your buddies at MSNBC and CNN don't want to hear or report on. The States that have re-opened for business, like Florida and Georgia, are doing much better than States that remain in Lock down. Get a life, and stop being a fear monger like the left wants all of us to be. In 1957-58 the US population was about 1/2 of what it is today, and 116,000 people died from the Asian flu. We didn't shut down a single business or school, or ruin a good post war economy. Those are real facts, not the garbage the left is throwing today as "Facts'!

After that world class beatdown of Gheygagger by Hatari, I doubt he'll respond. And he still can't spellforshit..

Originally Posted by hanco

It is so confusing!!

There is a LOT that is not understood, by the scientists, doctors, virologists, etc. Viruses have the ability to change their characteristics which is why the seasonal flu vaccine is modified each year to account for the variations.

At this point, I don't believe much of anything about this virus and nothing from some caliotoe libitard idiot named fil

Only somebody as dumb as GayGhost would still be worrying about the Bolognavirus.

Get fugking real.