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https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?

Finally seeing the light are ya.

Bar is the Corruption Monitor, not the prosecutor in chief you think he is.
I had a discussion with a friend today and he claimed there are several possible scenarios.

One might be,Barr is investigating Obama but doesn't want to alert him and his cronies.

I continue to hope for the best for our nation.
I’m beginning to believe Barr is part of the Deep State.

The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.

He needs to be, investigated, charged, prosecuted, convicted, and Hung. 😡
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
I’m beginning to believe Barr is part of the Deep State.

The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.

He needs to be, investigated, charged, prosecuted, convicted, and Hung. 😡

Ditto
Didn't I read that Obama/Holder's "Fast & Furious" was going to be investigated?
Originally Posted by DMc
Didn't I read that Obama/Holder's "Fast & Furious" was going to be investigated?


Yep. Fuggers should be charged and convicted of murder of a US Border Patrol Agent. 😡
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
I had a discussion with a friend today and he claimed there are several possible scenarios.

One might be,Barr is investigating Obama but doesn't want to alert him and his cronies.

I continue to hope for the best for our nation.



Hope this is true!!!
They’ve all sold their soul.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?



Barr is doing what a good prosecutor should do: being careful about the use of his awesome power. The Dems could learn something from him.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?



Barr is doing what a good prosecutor should do: being careful about the use of his awesome power. The Dems could learn something from him.
If the president has absolute immunity like Trump says, how can Obama be guilty of "crimes" committed as president?
Trump called Obama ‘grossly incompetent’.

That was good.....but likely the extent of damage done to Obama.
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-investigation-of-either-obama-or-biden/

Notice how the corruption monitor attempts to spank President Trump for his defensive punches at Obama, calling what the President is doing, "political Tit-for-Tate " .

First the Corruption Monitor blames President Trump's tweets for his inability to clean up his own house, now he blames President Trump's campaign for his refusal to investigate and prosecute Real Criminals.

He needs to be fired, ASAP.
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist


One might be,Barr is investigating Obama but doesn't want to alert him and his cronies.



While that's a possibility, I don't think it's likely.

Overall, I think Barr was a bad hire, right along with Wray.

Maybe Trump has wised up if he get another term & his appointments will be considerably better as his track record so far ain't real good.

We need several more Ric Grennell's..............................

MM
We don't go after former Presidents like they do in Banana Republics. Fear of reprisal makes dictators for life. Our founders understood that and set the precedence that once out of office you keep a low profile and shut your mouth.

Clinton had a problem with that until Daddy Bush had a word with him. Say what you want about GHWB, but Clinton listened and backed off GWB. GWB had very little criticism for BHO, but Barry suddenly is compelled to run his trap. I think Barry is going to be made to sweat a little until he gets the message.
The only justice we'll ever see is what we take ourselves.
As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton has more or less stayed off Trump's case thus far. We can speculate as to why (Clinton Foundation has crumbled) but more than likely he no longer runs the Dem Party and has no power. No need to draw the spotlight. He's 20 years out of office.

Bathhouse Barry still thinks he needs to be relevant.

Could be Bathhouse Barry tried some Banana Republic type stuff with the FBI and Intel community on Trump and is getting nervous now that the jig is up. (Pun intended)
Trump needs to tell Ozero that his researchers have found a way to cross Covid-19 with Sickle Cell Anemia, and he's going to be the first test case unless he keeps his pie hole shut!
Jerry
I heard today that Barr and DOJ wouldn't be involved in the more serious crimes, treason is a military justice procedure.
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
I had a discussion with a friend today and he claimed there are several possible scenarios.

One might be,Barr is investigating Obama but doesn't want to alert him and his cronies.

I continue to hope for the best for our nation.



We know Zero was complicit in the Trump illegal surveillance program.

That, of course, doesn't compare to the criminality of subversion. I'm hoping the plan is for prosecuting under the RICO statute or for more serious traitorus acts.

Iirc, and may need correcting, Durham is only investigating the FISA Court situation. I dont see there though, the need for Durham to need investigators with serious violent crime experience.

Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?
Barr is worthless and has been from day one, just like his buddy Sessions.
Originally Posted by Ole_270
I heard today that Barr and DOJ wouldn't be involved in the more serious crimes, treason is a military justice procedure.

All right. Thanks for that. That could be coming under acts prosecuted in military tribunals.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?
Barr is worthless and has been from day one, just like his buddy Sessions.


Dayom, but i hate to hear you say that.
Originally Posted by BooBear
If the president has absolute immunity like Trump says, how can Obama be guilty of "crimes" committed as president?
If that is so then why does Biden say he won't pardon Trump? Trump won't need pardoning. And if there is such a thing as absolute immunity, then the whole Impeachment thing was a bigger scam than we think. The bottom line is there is no such thing as absolute immunity. Barr just won't prosecute Zero or anybody of consequence unless they've fallen from favor with the Deep State or the whole thing is a scam.
Barr is not obligated to do what I think he should do, or what you think he should do - the role is well-defined, confidentiality and discretion are of high importance, and we have no idea what he is questioning/reviewing/getting ready to prosecute, etc. No doubt he also is monitoring/staying abreast of other big investigations and - if he is doing his job well - trying to insure that folks are not messing up each others work - including his own. The wheel of justice never move quickly at that level, so impatience down here does nothing except irritate the impatient. I'm not a fan of Barr or lots of others up there, but he seems a bunch better than what we have suffered in the remembered past, so I'm going to watch carefully and patiently for the results before I start damning him or throwing rocks his way..
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?
Barr is worthless and has been from day one, just like his buddy Sessions.


Dayom, but i hate to hear you say that.
I love you Jag, but I've thought that all along. I always hope I'm wrong though.

Doesn't matter. I'm not taking any vaccine with the possibility of a microchip in it whether it's the Mark or not.
Originally Posted by CCCC
Barr is not obligated to do what I think he should do, or what you think he should do - the role is well-defined, confidentiality and discretion are of high importance, and we have no idea what he is questioning/reviewing/getting ready to prosecute, etc. No doubt he also is monitoring/staying abreast of other big investigations and - if he is doing his job well - trying to insure that folks are not messing up each others work - including his own. The wheel of justice never move quickly at that level, so impatience down here does nothing except irritate the impatient. I'm not a fan of Barr or lots of others up there, but he seems a bunch better than what we have suffered in the remembered past, so I'm going to watch carefully and patiently for the results before I start damning him or throwing rocks his way..
No offense to you intended, but that's all just fancy talk to justify doing nothing.
Originally Posted by hatari
As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton has more or less stayed off Trump's case thus far. We can speculate as to why (Clinton Foundation has crumbled) but more than likely he no longer runs the Dem Party and has no power. No need to draw the spotlight. He's 20 years out of office.

Bathhouse Barry still thinks he needs to be relevant.

Could be Bathhouse Barry tried some Banana Republic type stuff with the FBI and Intel community on Trump and is getting nervous now that the jig is up. (Pun intended)


Or he was colluding with rogue Anti Trump CIA acting in concert for the Deep State Cabal? whistle

Amazing isnt it, how we were almost at war with NK with no perceivable way out when Trump met with Kim in Singapore. No more long range missiles fired and 2 weeks later Kim meets with Moon of SK and then 1 week later Moon flies to DC and meets with Trump, handing him the envelope Trump took a malevolent looking pic with.

That evening, Trump tweeted that he had recieved a very interesting letter. Sometime later Eric Schmidt of Alphabet Corp stepped down. Wasnt his group who Zero sent over to NK to set up the gmail system? And Trump had held that envelop from Moon with the flap forward and pointed down, forming an M, as in, you got mail?

whistle
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?





Apparently, not Zero.
Originally Posted by CCCC
Barr is not obligated to do what I think he should do, or what you think he should do - the role is well-defined, confidentiality and discretion are of high importance, and we have no idea what he is questioning/reviewing/getting ready to prosecute, etc. No doubt he also is monitoring/staying abreast of other big investigations and - if he is doing his job well - trying to insure that folks are not messing up each others work - including his own. The wheel of justice never move quickly at that level, so impatience down here does nothing except irritate the impatient. I'm not a fan of Barr or lots of others up there, but he seems a bunch better than what we have suffered in the remembered past, so I'm going to watch carefully and patiently for the results before I start damning him or throwing rocks his way..


Independent thinking is never welcomed, but let me be the first to congratulate you.

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Barr says... Well, this doesnt make sense.


And the real question is: "doesn't make sense" to who?
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
I’m beginning to believe Barr is part of the Deep State.

The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.

He needs to be, investigated, charged, prosecuted, convicted, and Hung. 😡



I don't believe that's the case pard. Here is the major problem. Never has a president been prosecuted (as far as I know). Going after obongo, and prosecuting him would result in the demoraps going after Trump when he get's done. That leads to a tit for tat, one president after another. Not withstanding Trump is the best that's happened for America in years, in general, it's extremely difficult to get good candidates for many political positions but particularly for president. Can you imagine the problem we would have getting good candidates if they all know that when they get out of office they will be prosecuted for.....something, regardless. Just like the kind of thing Trump is going through right now. Democrats make up their own rules and definitions as they go along.
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
I’m beginning to believe Barr is part of the Deep State.

The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.

He needs to be, investigated, charged, prosecuted, convicted, and Hung. 😡



I don't believe that's the case pard. Here is the major problem. Never has a president been prosecuted (as far as I know). Going after obongo, and prosecuting him would result in the demoraps going after Trump when he get's done. That leads to a tit for tat, one president after another. Not withstanding Trump is the best that's happened for America in years, in general, it's extremely difficult to get good candidates for many political positions but particularly for president. Can you imagine the problem we would have getting good candidates if they all know that when they get out of office they will be prosecuted for.....something, regardless. Just like the kind of thing Trump is going through right now. Democrats make up their own rules and definitions as they go along.




With one big difference, CaribouJack. Trump was investigated and prosecuted while he was i
IN office.

So, what is the tit-for-tat of that?
Originally Posted by hatari
As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton has more or less stayed off Trump's case thus far. We can speculate as to why (Clinton Foundation has crumbled) but more than likely he no longer runs the Dem Party and has no power. No need to draw the spotlight. He's 20 years out of office.

Bathhouse Barry still thinks he needs to be relevant.

Could be Bathhouse Barry tried some Banana Republic type stuff with the FBI and Intel community on Trump and is getting nervous now that the jig is up. (Pun intended)


LOL !
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
I’m beginning to believe Barr is part of the Deep State.

The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.

He needs to be, investigated, charged, prosecuted, convicted, and Hung. 😡



I don't believe that's the case pard. Here is the major problem. Never has a president been prosecuted (as far as I know). Going after obongo, and prosecuting him would result in the demoraps going after Trump when he get's done. That leads to a tit for tat, one president after another. Not withstanding Trump is the best that's happened for America in years, in general, it's extremely difficult to get good candidates for many political positions but particularly for president. Can you imagine the problem we would have getting good candidates if they all know that when they get out of office they will be prosecuted for.....something, regardless. Just like the kind of thing Trump is going through right now. Democrats make up their own rules and definitions as they go along.




With one big difference, CaribouJack. Trump was investigated and prosecuted while he was i
IN office.

So, what is the tit-for-tat of that?


PREZACTLY!!!
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Ole_270
I heard today that Barr and DOJ wouldn't be involved in the more serious crimes, treason is a military justice procedure.

All right. Thanks for that. That could be coming under acts prosecuted in military tribunals.


Then charge the Halfican with Treason. We all know he’s guilty as sin!
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Ole_270
I heard today that Barr and DOJ wouldn't be involved in the more serious crimes, treason is a military justice procedure.

All right. Thanks for that. That could be coming under acts prosecuted in military tribunals.


Then charge the Halfican with Treason. We all know he’s guilty as sin!


O'buckwheat can't be charged with treason.

Nobody can prove he's an American.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Ole_270
I heard today that Barr and DOJ wouldn't be involved in the more serious crimes, treason is a military justice procedure.

All right. Thanks for that. That could be coming under acts prosecuted in military tribunals.


Then charge the Halfican with Treason. We all know he’s guilty as sin!


O'buckwheat can't be charged with treason.

Nobody can prove he's an American.


Well there is THAT.
I want the Mandarins who did the work of this attempted coup d'etat to stand trial. An ex-president in court, that's like looking at the sun, you can't see anything beyond it and nothing else would have any meaning and the rats in the trash heap of the District of Columbia would just continue their dirty business.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Ole_270
I heard today that Barr and DOJ wouldn't be involved in the more serious crimes, treason is a military justice procedure.

All right. Thanks for that. That could be coming under acts prosecuted in military tribunals.


Then charge the Halfican with Treason. We all know he’s guilty as sin!


O'buckwheat can't be charged with treason.

Nobody can prove he's an American.


Well there is THAT.


AFAIC, it should be strung up for that.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor


The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.
. 😡

To be traitorous, he would have to be an actual American to start with. Sleeper Agent, or Manchurian Candidate is a more accurate description.

Any of the three: deserving of Capitol Punishment.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
I’m beginning to believe Barr is part of the Deep State.

The Halfican is a Traitorous POS.

He needs to be, investigated, charged, prosecuted, convicted, and Hung. 😡



I don't believe that's the case pard. Here is the major problem. Never has a president been prosecuted (as far as I know). Going after obongo, and prosecuting him would result in the demoraps going after Trump when he get's done. That leads to a tit for tat, one president after another. Not withstanding Trump is the best that's happened for America in years, in general, it's extremely difficult to get good candidates for many political positions but particularly for president. Can you imagine the problem we would have getting good candidates if they all know that when they get out of office they will be prosecuted for.....something, regardless. Just like the kind of thing Trump is going through right now. Democrats make up their own rules and definitions as they go along.




With one big difference, CaribouJack. Trump was investigated and prosecuted while he was i
IN office.

So, what is the tit-for-tat of that?


And I agree, but they will have to prosecute half of the Congress and many of the Senate and put them in prison, to hopefully bring this to an end. Probably 40% of the population think Trump is getting his due. I'm certainly not one of them, I'm thrilled he's willing to keep doing it. Probably 75 to 100 people would have to be prosecuted to turn the corner on this crap. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see that, but it's a risk. I don't want to see prosecuting one president after another starting. I think Trump is as honest a politician we've had in years. But no good deed goes unpunished.
To kill the snake......
Your pretty spot on Cariboujack. The aftermath of arresting and prosecuting a former Pres. for BS FISA charges would be petty, especially when much larger crimes and charges are looming. You have to bring the Queen down before the King.
Go back and reread or re-listen to what Barr said and try to understanding his meaning.

You really should give Trump more credit, he is really not that stupid.
obama just does what he is told, not big on thinking.
Originally Posted by poboy
obama just does what he is told, not big on thinking.
Yeah, can you imagine a president Stacey Abrams and who her advisers would be and what they would have her do. If Biden is elected we could face that.
To think that the a Democrats will not prosecute President Trump after he leaves office because he was kind enough not to prosecute Obama, or that “it’s just not done here in America, is naive at best.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...en-criminal-probe-unlikely/#26d3f74716b0

He says any criminality will be investigated but doesnt expect any criminal investigation of Zero.

Who does he think directed the surveillance of Trump?
"EXPECT" is the operative word... I.e., (and IMHO) he's inferring they're safe - maybe to let them drop their guard before the hammer drops down..

Hope, hope, hope, hope, hope,........................
Originally Posted by viking
They’ve all sold their soul.


Those who have tasted the fruits of this system cannot possibly be relied upon to make it right.


Originally Posted by stevelyn
The only justice we'll ever see is what we take ourselves.


The reason we have the rights enumerated such as we do isn’t so that a father and son can plink on a sunny Saturday morning.
The Deep State doesn't work logically.

You have to affiliate with one of he parties. When your party's in power, you get a cushy government job. Through contacts and lobbyists you get offered "investments" and entertainment that greatly raise your salary. When your party's out of power, you get a cushy job with some think tank or as a lobbyist. All that works unless you upset the applecart too much.

I don't think Barr wants Clapper, Brennan etc. to go to jail, let alone Obama or Biden, because that would upset the applecart. Barr seems to be slow walking this, the same as the Republican Congessmen and Senators did.

The reason Comey and Stroczk etc. stepped so far out of line is they were convinced there would be another 8 years of a Democrat presidency and there would be no consequences.

Trump, of course, is the first prominent politician who did not pay his dues in the Deep State. So if fhey can get him, it doesn't upset the applecart. In fact, it protects the Deep State.

The people don't rule. They serve the Deep State. So fuggedaboudit and go out shooting or fishing.
I would remind you gentlemen again, just who Bill Barr is.... He was DOJ's "clean up the mess" guy after Ruby Ridge. He set up the scenario wherein Louis Freeh who actually gave the order, "shoot any armed occupants on sight"....was not charged when the smoke cleared. Do not expect any justice from William Barr, unless it coincides with his career goals.
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I would remind you gentlemen again, just who Bill Barr is.... He was DOJ's "clean up the mess" guy after Ruby Ridge. He set up the scenario wherein Louis Freeh who actually gave the order, "shoot any armed occupants on sight"....was not charged when the smoke cleared. Do not expect any justice from William Barr, unless it coincides with his career goals.

BINGO!,

This begs the question, it’s obvious who Barr was and what he is, so why did President Trump hire him?

More important, why keep him after he publicly admits that his DOJ will not seek True Justice.
Steve, Sad to think, but are there ANY good men, tried and true to the oath of office and the constitution within the DC anthill?
Originally Posted by 5thShock
I want the Mandarins who did the work of this attempted coup d'etat to stand trial. An ex-president in court, that's like looking at the sun, you can't see anything beyond it and nothing else would have any meaning and the rats in the trash heap of the District of Columbia would just continue their dirty business.





Not if they saw heads on poles and treasonous basturds in trees.
How fast would Democrat’s charge Trump and put him in the gas chamber if charging ex-POTUS’s becomes the norm?

Or W Bush put to death for perceived crimes against humanity?
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Steve, Sad to think, but are there ANY good men, tried and true to the oath of office and the constitution within the DC anthill?


Sidney Powell
Originally Posted by sportingspecialist
I had a discussion with a friend today and he claimed there are several possible scenarios.

One might be,Barr is investigating Obama but doesn't want to alert him and his cronies.

I continue to hope for the best for our nation.



This seemed like an incredibly obvious possibility. Also from a PR standpoint, easier to investigate him later when "the evidence led us there". As opposed to how the Dems operate, target someone first and then see what kind of 'evidence' they can dig up.
Here is a different perspective on Barr's comment.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/707...m_campaign=snapshot&utm_content=body

Barr Plays It Cool
The AG said that Durham's investigation is unlikely to include Obama and Biden.

Those with an abiding respect for Rule of Law may have been discouraged by news yesterday that U.S. Attorney John Durham’s investigation of the investigators of the Russia-collusion hoax is unlikely to end in the cuffing and stuffing of Barack Obama and Joe Biden — despite Obama’s fingerprints being all over the coup crime scene.

Sometimes, though, a few choice words can do more lasting damage than a frog march: “This cannot be, and it will not be, a tit-for-tat exercise,” said Attorney General William Barr. “We are not going to lower the standards just to achieve a result.”

Let’s think about those two sentences for a moment. Both imply wrongdoing, and both imply an unwillingness by Barr to stoop to the level of those wrongdoers. But neither signals any sort of capitulation. Far from it. Barr, as is his penchant, is playing it cool, refusing to get out over his skis. Instead, he’s allowing a seasoned and highly regarded U.S. attorney to quietly gather the facts and do his job. And if doing his job requires that he first focus a few levels down from Obama and Biden, where bad actors like Peter Strzok and Kevin Clinesmith were operating, then so be it.

“I’m a little surprised by that statement,” said President Donald Trump yesterday. But this, too, is a good thing. If our nation’s attorney general is seen as little more than the president’s toadie, then his credibility will be greatly diminished — and so will be the findings of the investigation he launched. Here, the contrast between Barr, a by-the-book lawyer who first served as attorney general under George H.W. Bush, and Obama’s first attorney general, Eric Holder, couldn’t be starker. “I’m still the president’s wing-man,” said Holder in 2013, “so I’m there with my boy.”

The moment a nation’s attorney general claims to be “there with my boy” the president is the moment a Department of Justice has lost its way.

But there is something on which AG Barr and President Trump agree wholeheartedly, and it should give encouragement to every citizen who respects the law and wants to see justice done in this case. The mainstream media ignored it, of course, but former DOJ attorney Andrew McCarthy captured it in National Review:

What happened to the president in the 2016 election, and throughout the first two years of his administration, was … a grave injustice and it was unprecedented in American history. … We saw two different standards of justice emerge, one that applied to President Trump and his associates, and the other that applied to everybody else. We can’t allow this ever to happen again [emphasis added].
If that last sentence sounds familiar, it’s because President Trump has been saying the exact same thing for months now. And if our mercurial president and his cool-as-the-other-side-of-the-pillow attorney general can agree on only one thing, let it be this.
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
The Deep State doesn't work logically.

You have to affiliate with one of he parties. When your party's in power, you get a cushy government job. Through contacts and lobbyists you get offered "investments" and entertainment that greatly raise your salary. When your party's out of power, you get a cushy job with some think tank or as a lobbyist. All that works unless you upset the applecart too much.

I don't think Barr wants Clapper, Brennan etc. to go to jail, let alone Obama or Biden, because that would upset the applecart. Barr seems to be slow walking this, the same as the Republican Congessmen and Senators did.

The reason Comey and Stroczk etc. stepped so far out of line is they were convinced there would be another 8 years of a Democrat presidency and there would be no consequences.

Trump, of course, is the first prominent politician who did not pay his dues in the Deep State. So if fhey can get him, it doesn't upset the applecart. In fact, it protects the Deep State.

The people don't rule. They serve the Deep State. So fuggedaboudit and go out shooting or fishing.


I think this is an accurate summary of the situation. I don't expect anyone to actually be prosecuted. Barr will say this is what happened but no charges are being brought. The comments above are also the reason I don't agree with those who say we have the government we deserve. Come election time we are given a choice of candidates. That choice is pre-determined by the Parties.
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Here is a different perspective on Barr's comment.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/707...m_campaign=snapshot&utm_content=body

Barr Plays It Cool
The AG said that Durham's investigation is unlikely to include Obama and Biden.

Those with an abiding respect for Rule of Law may have been discouraged by news yesterday that U.S. Attorney John Durham’s investigation of the investigators of the Russia-collusion hoax is unlikely to end in the cuffing and stuffing of Barack Obama and Joe Biden — despite Obama’s fingerprints being all over the coup crime scene.

Sometimes, though, a few choice words can do more lasting damage than a frog march: “This cannot be, and it will not be, a tit-for-tat exercise,” said Attorney General William Barr. “We are not going to lower the standards just to achieve a result.”

Let’s think about those two sentences for a moment. Both imply wrongdoing, and both imply an unwillingness by Barr to stoop to the level of those wrongdoers. But neither signals any sort of capitulation. Far from it. Barr, as is his penchant, is playing it cool, refusing to get out over his skis. Instead, he’s allowing a seasoned and highly regarded U.S. attorney to quietly gather the facts and do his job. And if doing his job requires that he first focus a few levels down from Obama and Biden, where bad actors like Peter Strzok and Kevin Clinesmith were operating, then so be it.

“I’m a little surprised by that statement,” said President Donald Trump yesterday. But this, too, is a good thing. If our nation’s attorney general is seen as little more than the president’s toadie, then his credibility will be greatly diminished — and so will be the findings of the investigation he launched. Here, the contrast between Barr, a by-the-book lawyer who first served as attorney general under George H.W. Bush, and Obama’s first attorney general, Eric Holder, couldn’t be starker. “I’m still the president’s wing-man,” said Holder in 2013, “so I’m there with my boy.”

The moment a nation’s attorney general claims to be “there with my boy” the president is the moment a Department of Justice has lost its way.

But there is something on which AG Barr and President Trump agree wholeheartedly, and it should give encouragement to every citizen who respects the law and wants to see justice done in this case. The mainstream media ignored it, of course, but former DOJ attorney Andrew McCarthy captured it in National Review:

What happened to the president in the 2016 election, and throughout the first two years of his administration, was … a grave injustice and it was unprecedented in American history. … We saw two different standards of justice emerge, one that applied to President Trump and his associates, and the other that applied to everybody else. We can’t allow this ever to happen again [emphasis added].
If that last sentence sounds familiar, it’s because President Trump has been saying the exact same thing for months now. And if our mercurial president and his cool-as-the-other-side-of-the-pillow attorney general can agree on only one thing, let it be this.



OSU Sig has a good grasp of how the game is being played. Game Theory is what we are seeing being applied but because many don't understand the Game they revert back to what they understood years back. We are no longer in the "years back" scenario any more and you cannot reason it out with those past tactics. Thinking with our emotions is what has gotten into this mess in the first place.
Here's an explanation of Game Theory. Understand this, Game Theory is what the Military uses.


Within Game Theory, there are also two components that vastly change the optics and potential outcomes of an operation, utilizing a "repeating" game theory.
These outcomes are defined by whether each player is playing on an Infinite or Finite scale.

Many times, players will be utilizing different strategies, where one is playing an 'infinite game', while the other a 'finite game'.
There is an exponential difference between these strategies.

Finite game: known players, fixed rules, finite objective (to win). Example: a football game.

Infinite game: known and unknown players, the rules are changeable, and the only objective is to perpetuate the game.
When you put a finite vs. finite player, the system is stable.

Football is stable, and so is conventional war.
When you have an Infinite vs. Infinite player, the system is also stable.

In an Infinite game, there are no winners or losers, and you cannot lose the game; so you work to keep the game going.
In an Infinite game, because there are no winners or losers, the only thing a player can do is drop out of the game, once they have run out of resources, or the will to continue playing.
Problems arise though, when you put a finite player vs. infinite player.

The finite player gets caught in a predicament. The finite player wants only to win, while the infinite player knows winning is done in the long term vision, the Infinite game.
This frustrates finite players, causing them to expend resources or lose the will to continue, thus solidifying the win to the Infinite player regardless.

Infinite games require devising tactical strategies that are flexible, can be changed at any time, all while maintaining a socially optimal equilibrium.
During the Cold War, the US made arguably one of the biggest strategical errors in Game Theory, when they announced they had won.

They believed they had 'won the Cold War'. But they hadn't. The other player dropped out, because they had run out of will or the resources to play.
The problem was, because the US thought they had won the war, they started acting like victors!

And so, as what will happen within all infinite games, new players began to emerge.
We've seen this currently as well. We've heard President Trump say numerous times, he "didn't realize the swamp was this deep!"

New players emerged, as others ran out of resources or the will to keep playing.
The easiest way to understand the game you're in, is when you have an opposing force; where you can easily see whether you're playing by the same set of rules or not.
For example, we can easily look to the tactics of the DS and mainstream media and clearly see, that they are playing by a different set of rules than we are. We are 'not them', and they 'are not us'.
It comes down to: how do we make decisions, and what actions will we take from those decisions.

"For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction."
When we make decisions based on our values: freedom, life, liberty, justice; we are using an Infinite mindset and strategy.

But on the flip side, when we make decisions based solely on our interests: wanting to win or be 'right'; we are using a finite mindset and strategy.
For example: Think about all the decisions you make in your daily life, that don't necessarily serve your 'interests' at the moment, but is based on the VALUES, and ethics you hold.

We use Game Theory everywhere, in all of our decision making.
Problems that arise within Game Theory become especially meaningful when people utilize finite strategies, not realizing they're playing an Infinite game.
When this happens, not only does it confuse our allies because they don't have any idea of what we stand for anymore, but it also comes across as 'unpredictable', making our allies trust us less. It also allows the enemy to exploit our strategy.
Ideally, we want to run all of our decisions through our value system first. While it may not always go our way, and it may not always be in our immediate interests, it makes us predictable.
It makes our allies trust us, where they will either stand with us or against us, and together we will go through the Infinite game, for as long as it takes.
We cannot help to contribute to stabilize this until we begin to play the game we're actually in, rather than utilizing strategies of a game we're not in.

We must realize, we are in an Infinite game!
What we have witnessed play out, are players within Game Theory utilizing differing strategies.

The Deep State is playing a finite game, where there is an END. They want to win, regardless of the cost or lives lost, and they are making decisions based on their interests only.
President Trump and the Patriots are playing an Infinite game.

One in which, the game (world) keeps going! One where justice can be served, while saving the most lives possible, and maintaining social equilibrium.
Patriots are executing an Infinite strategy, where we gain allies and build trust, through predictable value systems. An Infinite game of mass future proportions and possibilities.




But the end won't be for everyone.

"The greatest victory is that which requires no battle" - Sun Tzu
Originally Posted by steve4102
To think that the a Democrats will not prosecute President Trump after he leaves office because he was kind enough not to prosecute Obama, or that “it’s just not done here in America, is naive at best.


Yep. They hate Trump so badly they’ll do everything in their power to prosecute him after he leaves office! 😡
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by CCCC
Barr is not obligated to do what I think he should do, or what you think he should do - the role is well-defined, confidentiality and discretion are of high importance, and we have no idea what he is questioning/reviewing/getting ready to prosecute, etc. No doubt he also is monitoring/staying abreast of other big investigations and - if he is doing his job well - trying to insure that folks are not messing up each others work - including his own. The wheels of justice never move quickly at that level, so impatience down here does nothing except irritate the impatient. I'm not a fan of Barr or lots of others up there, but he seems a bunch better than what we have suffered in the remembered past, so I'm going to watch carefully and patiently for the results before I start damning him or throwing rocks his way..
No offense to you intended, but that's all just fancy talk to justify doing nothing.
No offense taken, but am more than a bit amazed by your assumption that you can read my mind and motive - and apparently your compulsions caused you to miss by a wide mile. I have no intent and made zero effort to "justify" anything he is not doing - or doing. You can not point up one word from me toward such justification.. And, that was not "fancy talk" talk. It was forthright every day language as used among thoughtful folks who do their best to express themselves clearly. Absence of abject bias does not indicate fanciful. Please take no offense.
Originally Posted by Barkoff
How fast would Democrat’s charge Trump and put him in the gas chamber if charging ex-POTUS’s becomes the norm?

Or W Bush put to death for perceived crimes against humanity?

PDQ. Remember the Kennedy Curse. 3 have died in the past year for JFKs attempts on them and for RFK Jr spilling thr beans on the deadly Gates vaccines injected in so many unfortunate Afreakin kids.
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