fire this morning destroyed nearly all my camping gear. I spend about 35 nights a year in my sleeping bag, so my stuff gets used!! For years I have used a +20 cabelas boundary waters down sleeping bag. it was very large yet compressed down to a pretty small size, I can't find anything else like it. after looking around at what the sleeping bag market has out there I wonder does anyone actually sleep in those things? I HATE MUMMY BAGS!!!!! all the large rectangular bags are massive car camping type bags,


large, lightweight, packable and down. it looks like the industry has totally moved away from this, even LL bean quit making their comparable bag. any ideas? I do have a cabelas instinct zero bag that I have been also using for cold weather as in below 25 degrees. that is easy to replace. I just want to get a replacement for that warmer bag.

Feathered Friends Condor. Available in 10 20 and 30 degree versions. 900 fill power down, pertex outer, made in USA. It doesn't get much better than FF.


mike r

Sorry to hear about the fire, CC.

Budget? Look into a down quilt from UGQ or EE, or a semi-rectangular bag like the Western Mountaineering Ponderosa.

you guys are great keep the options coming. never seen feathered friends. I just emailed them with a question on that condor. pretty expensive!!! but if its what I like I don't care. wiggys is the other I have been looking at. I keep my stuff in a giant cabelas dry bag, I call it the body bag. its fully ready at all times to just grab and go, in fact I was using it friday and saturday, loaded with all my kuiu stuff, sleeping pad, and often times even a dome tent for boat trips. all I need to add is food and drink, and I am ready for pretty much what ever. most everything is replaceable. that large down sleeping bag and I have spent upteen nights in, I was sick about losing.

my wife was like, umm the car got burnt, the motorcycles burnt and you're worried about a sleeping bag?!?! I was like umm yeah!

If you are straying from down the Wiggy's is a good choice. I have used his Hunter bag for >than 25 years. You can store it compressed and wash it at home when needed. Get their compression stuff sack, you can store it compressed w/out damage.


mike r

Sorry about the loses at your home. We had a fire before that took out a couple of rooms. Lost some hunting gear along with household items.

Upside....Homeowners insurance rewarded us financially, as it should.

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I have a few, and they make them big/wide, but, even compressed they're big, and they're heavy.

I love them for some things, but they are not my go to for backpacking.

I can't sleep in a mummy bag either. I've been able to compromise with a semi-rectangular bag .. not rectangular but still has a much larger foot area and a bit more hip room. Check out western mountaineering. I have 3 of their bags ... 40, 25, and 5 degree. Another option would be a down blanket. I have one by thermarest. It tucks in around your feet well, drapes nicely, but you can also stick out body parts to cool if it is too warm and you can get out of it in a hurry if there's a need.

Sorry to hear 'bout the fire.

I'm a side sleeper and very much like the pad pocket on the Big Agnes bags. They offer more than just mummy bags, with good prices if you can find them on their outlet page.

Which bag are you running. I looked at feathered friends and I don’t think their largest bag is going to be big enough. It’s 64 inches inside and if I put my arms and elbows down on my side. 64 inches is barely enough to go around. Leaning toward wiggy unless something else comes up

Sorry to hear that Cummins, hope you had good insurance and good luck with the new gear selection.

I use the Lost Ranger - Long, but it's no longer listed on their site. The one I have, and I've had 2 over the past 20yrs, have been down and I have been very happy with them. I went with the long for the extra girth as I'm fat. Thier Echo (synthetic) and/or Diamond (down) Park series is 80" at the shoulder.

so is your lost ranger the same setup as the diamond? I have been using a exped outfitter LXW pad, is that diamond really setup for big agnes pads only. I think my pad is bigger. although I may be replacing that pad. I can't tell if its damaged beyond cleaning just yet. should know tomorrow. big agnes pads?

I’m another big fan of the Western Mountaineering semi-rectangular bag. I also hate mummy bags, and mine gives me all the room I need (a Sequoia with microfiber shell). I use a Sea to Summit air mattress that is terrific as well.

You might want to look at Enlightened Equipment's Convert. Great bag and be a bag, a quilt or even a blanket. They run just over $420 for a 20 degree, 850 fill.

Sorry to hear about the fire.
I think a down quilt with a good sleeping mat is a great option for someone that doesn’t like being restricted by a bag. I use a UGQ quilt and Exped Downmat and like the combination a lot.

i concur with a quilt/blanket. about the only time i use a bag is extreme cold

Kifaru Slick "wide" bag will do it all.

Dave

I really like a quilt combined with a good mat, but I think you’re right on this for some people.
I always wanted to try a Slick bag for winter weather and picked up a good deal on a 0 deg, regular length, wide bag. I knew it would be longer than I need, all regular bags are for me. And I also knew it would be too wide, but I thought for cold weather and possibly going to bed with clothes and coat on, it might be fine. I way underestimated the size. Longer than any regular length bag I have, and the width is obviously made for giants. I got my 6’ 2” / 225 lb friend to try it and it was too big for him as well. Even a regular/regular would be way too much waisted bag for me.
So I can’t see any reasonably sized human ever feeling constricted in a Slick bag lol.

The pad sleeve will work for any pad that will fit. The different bags list the size of pads that will work. I have both an insulated and uninsulated BA pad and have been very pleased with them. The Lost Ranger would be similar to the 20º Diamond Park bag.

No need to make excuses.

You just like the extra girth.


Me too. I get it.

I ended up getting a big agnes diamond park 15 degree sleeping bag. it arrived this afternoon!!!! So far I think I am really going to like it. a couple features I think I will really like. as mentioned it looks like it handles a bunch of different pads. I ended up getting the insulated big agnes bad with it just to make sure I give it a try with a pad that is specifically designed for it. still waiting on the pad. I had been using an exped outfitter pad that is 4" thick, with my other setup. it looks like this sleeping bag should also accept that pad as well. so I am going to try and have that pad fixed or replaced and try both the exped and the big agnes pad to see which setup I like the best. The exped is probably quite a bit more durable.

the biggest problem I was having is my pillow would slide off the end of my pad, as you can imagine if the pad is 4" off the ground the pillow would easily slide off. I had addressed this by using a pillow case and tarp clamps to my pad. however this big agnes setup has a pocket the pillow fits in and with the sleeping bag attaching to the pad. This looks like the setup that will end up just fixing the problem!!!

so far there is plenty of shoulder room, the only difference I had, is the cabelas has more foot room, which in reality is probably a downside. still nothing that appears to even remotely annoy me. AND I can open the foot box at the bottom and vet it that way. and fully unzip both sides and can use the top as a quilt. The down looks quite a bit more dense than my 20 degree cabelas bag, so this will probably sleep warmer. maybe this bag does both for me. I can't wait to try it out. probably in 2 weeks.

You know me all too well.

Be sure to post a pic of a hunting trip you use it on...

You might at least try out a western mountaineering badger or a sequoia, they aren’t rectangular but both are cut much wider and are not restrictive at all. I’ve probably put 100 nights in my badger over the past 2 seasons of hunting and I absolutely love it.

Anyone have any experience with the nemo riff or disco bags.Looks like there cut larger for side sleepers,and they come in a long length.

my pad for the big agnes came today, check out the diamond park, plenty of room. I think a sleep system that works together has alot of appeal. I set it up this afternoon in my living room. I didn't want to get up after laying down in it. the big agnes pad has the valves on top and very handy to adjust the firmness. I also bought an exped widget which pumps up the pads quickly and I will use it to stoke the coals on my hybotchie grill

You might look into the Montbell Super Stretch bags...... I hate constricting mummy bags (I'm a side sleeper and need to keep rotating from side to side and I throw a small pillow between legs or under side of belly).... I've have a couple montbell UL stretch bags and they are great... stretch out when you need to move yet softly cuddle you to keep you comfy and warm with the soft down. And they are ultralight and pack small. Not constricting at all.... best of both worlds. Check em out. (i'm 6'2 250(ugh) and use a long)...

Montbell has several of their 800 fill Spiral Stretch bags on 20% Closeout.

I saw my post at the top after coming in this forum. so far I have spent 4 nights with my big agnes diamond park sleeping bag. HOLY SH!!!!T I freaking love it!! I have the big agnes q core in 30x78 to match it. This sleeping bag solves every issue I had and even some I didn't even know. the bag is attached to the pad. no moving, no sliding. wake up to piss. the bag is where its supposed to be. There is a pocket for the pillow. This keeps the pillow from sliding off the end of the pad. this was a huge issue when using my 4" xped. It keeps the pillow from sliding off the bag. I don't like the q core pillow that big agnes makes, however a klymit luxe works prefectly and fits just right. There are zippers on both sides. That way you can enter or exit whatever direction it doesn't matter. you can unzip both for extra air flow, or just making it easier to sit up or whatever.

The most unique thing about this setup is you don't even feel like you are in a sleeping bag!! The way the top fits over you its like a natural blanket at home. it can unzip all the way and do just that if you want it to. I bought the 15 degree version, the coldest its gotten so far was down to about 27 degrees. If I am wearing my kuiu long johns, wool socks, and my kuiu merino 200 shirt to bed, I see no problem with it down to its rated temp. I am going to buy an echo park, same bag with synthetic insulation in 0 degrees to take when I know its going to be really cold out and down in the single digits. I have used the bag both on the ground and on a camp time roll a cot. its fits perfectly on that cot and its a tad more comfortable on the cot overall. either way. I sleep better in it, than at home.