Hello calguns,

First post here, first of many to come.

Recently purchased a Glock 27 as an impulse buy. Can honestly say I didn't like shooting it as much as my brothers G17. I feel like it is likely due to my grip.

Was wondering, how many of you have a G27 and like it? Did it take time to learn to control the muzzle flip? I am a smaller guy so I was hoping to hear what others had to say. I saw hickok45 shooting the G27 and his recoil control was unreal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tet1vNkIlCE @ 16:10)

With regards to grip:
I was taught to shoot using the isosceles stance with a 2-thumbs-forward grip. Is it true that my right hand should be mostly relaxed and my left hand (off-hand) have most of the grip strength applied to the gun? To control the recoil better, with my left hand, should I be pulling my index and middle finger towards my body to counter act the recoil?

/edit: after watching the hickok video, it looks like his left arm is using a lot of grip from the way his tendons bulging out. I'm going to try the grip at the range tomorrow

I appreciate all the advice!

Wow. Poor choice for a first handgun. You should have gone with the Model 19 or the 26. Even experienced handgunners have trouble handling the recoil of the 27, proper grip or no. You won't have any trouble selling it in the current climate. That's my best advice to you. Come back for grip technique recommendations after you've acquired yourself a Glock 19 or 26. No need to start with such a huge handicap.

Put a pinky extension or +1 mag extension I on the grip. 27 does snap a bit more than the 26 but its not bad. Practice a bit. 27 is a great gun

Grip extensions help a lot. Try using 180 grain ammunition, less snap IMO. When it’s possible, buy a 9mm conversion barrel.

Would he also need a 9mm extractor?

I'd recommend putting the 27 away for later, and getting a .22 with similar feel/characteristics to learn to shoot a handgun with. The 27 will likely not get cheaper anytime soon. Trigger time with light recoil is your friend when practicing basics.

Very good advice, don't fugg yourself up from the start.

Did you buy it for carry? If not, sell it and buy a 17 or 19 or 48.

I never did.... but does need 9mm mags

The Glock27 is not the easiest pistol to shoot well, IME. That's due largely, IME, to the recoil.

You can do some things to manage the recoil, but it's never going to be soft in that gun. And never, ever like a G17.

Everybody's gonna argue about how to hold a gun. I'll offer this advice and let everyone else disagree. For newer shooters, in fact for everyone who's not really, really good, it's generally best to just hold the gun as tight as you can with both hands. There are some nuances to make that better, but most people just parrot them and can't replicate them under stress or when they're not actually thinking about them. But they can hold the gun as tight as they can, without conscious thought and under stress, and it's a grip that might not be perfect--but is good enough to start focusing on other aspects of your shooting.

There are two signs you should look for that you're holding the gun too tight.
1-The gun starts shaking. This is the one that people most often look for, but isn't really a grip issue, is the gun shaking. Try this--Hold the gun as tight as you can until it starts shaking. Then consciously relax your back, shoulders, and biceps. The shake goes away 99% of the time. Shake is a product of arm / shoulder tension NOT grip tension. Which is good for us because we should be holding the gun with our hands NOT our whole body.

2-You get trigger freeze. The human hand was not designed to grip tightly with three fingers and move the fourth independently. So when you grip very tightly it can be hard to move your trigger finger. If that happens, relax your firing hand grip VERY slightly.

john39;

My advice would be to buy yourself a Glock 44-22LR to go with your Glock 27

And, shoot,shoot, shoot it, to learn trigger control and hand eye coordination.

Besides that, they are just lots of FUN to shoot!'' ( I own one myself! )

After you have mastered the 22LR, THEN you'll be ready for the 27

Virgil B.

Man, you guys are all slipping......

G27 is a great firearm, but poor choice for a new shooter. You will need to do a lot of shooting using basic fundamentals. I like "firm" handshake tight grip for shooting. Thumbs forward grip is all i use for semi autos.

Re Hickock's recoil control; He probably shoots more with all kinds of handguns than 95% of all handgun shooters, looks like he's got some good sized hands. I'd bet most of us can't shoot as well as him.

Good Heavens I am sure glad I didn't get the memo about the horrendous recoil of the Glock M27. I wouldn't have bought one. Glad I didn't see that horrendous recoil exerted on Hickok Too. I would have swooned and fainted away.
Maybe I need to sell my Glock M27 and just keep my 44 Mags for the mild recoil.
It takes all kinds for sure.

Stay with it. slow down and concentrate on the basics of marksmanship until you can call each shot. Start close, maybe 7 yards on a 3" target. When you can put a magazine in it, speed up a little. Repeat and move back. 6" plates at 25 yards are no problem after a while.

If you can find some Tula 180 grain FMJ, it is the softest shooting 40 S&W ammo I've tried.

Get a .22 of your choice and start there. Master it. When you can put 5 rounds in 2" circle at 10 yards you're off to a great start. The G27, as others have said, is a handful. There's no honor being lost by starting with and forever practicing with a .22.

When it comes to new guns the Gen 5 Glock 27 is one of the best impulse buys one can make. I had to use neoprene diver gloves (something I had handy and suitable at that time) to shoot old Walther PPS. It was the original slim single stack 9x19 striker fired pistol with plastic frame. The thing would hit base of my thumb every time I pressed the trigger. Funny thing, the only pistol I have consistently shot better was Soviet Makarov with toyish red bakelite grips. I got rid of the Makarov to get a Glock because it was more advanced pistol in a better caliber. I sold the Walther after I discovered that removal of back strap rendered pistol useless. I do not shoot the Glock as well as I shot the Makarov or the Walther PPS, but I still have the Glock. Man, all you need with legendary G27 is right gloves more practice and patience.

Even if you did buy it for carry, trade if for a 19 or 48.

What expectations do you have?

Are you starting at 3 yards or 15 yards?

Like I said before, try 180’s. Lighter stuff is violent IMO.

Other than installing a conversion barrel and a 9 mm mag that’s all you need.

Is this calguns?

He probably posted the question there first, then cut and paste it here, forgetting to change calguns to Campfire.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

I was helping you out.

Finally, someone looked up.

A few posts down in this very forum, there is an explanation. Following the links gives more credence. And this OP just confirms the charge. If this poster offers anything for sale, hang on to your wallet.

Glock 27, and my journey of futility. I bought it used from my LGS because the price was good, and I hated every other Glock I had owned (grip flare never fir my hand) and thought "Hey, this isn't bad, and some Pierce grip extensions would be even better."

They helped, but didn't solve the issues, so I bought some Talon grips for it. Better, but still not right. Traded it back to my LGS for a different gun (S&W Model 19, blued, Detroit Police special edition).

Two years later I saw it sitting on the shelf at the LGS, with a coating of dust. Felt sorry for the little bastard so I bought it back, and put in a .357 Sig barrel. Much better, but still not right. I gave up on the little beast and gave it to an old and dear friend who worships at the alter of Gaston for his birthday.

He loves it and carries it everyday, so in the end I guess it was worth it (insert frustrated laugh).

I like mine.

It's easy to carry, accurate, and not difficult to shoot well.

That said, it wasn't my first handgun, and it wouldn't be my last one sold.

Glocks almost invariably work and in my opinion, their magazines are top notch. But to be perfectly honest, the 'large caliber subcompact' is something S&W does eminently better than Glock. I think if you shoot a M&P40C, or 40/45 Shield, your 27 will go on the block.

I'd do that anyway.

Just in case you, john39, are not out at the gettin' place buying all the guns talked about here, you could unload the weapon, unload it again and aim it at something not alive and press the trigger.
Did you see the sights move? If you did, change something, your finger placement on the trigger, your grip, something else and try again. Keep at it until you can pull the trigger without moving the gun,

True. There are good number of striker-fired, plastic framed pistols with better ergonomics: SR Ruger, S&W, Canik, Heckler & Koch,...... Glock guys will not accept a substitute. Look at magazine problems with G44. They keep making videos about: loading ammo certain way, pusing last round down before inserting mag into pistol, hitting back of mag against their skulls,......using select ammo like CCI MiniMags. Easier, cheaper solution would be to buy similar gun from Taurus.

Agreed. Based on the reviews of each, I'd go with the Taurus.

My wife is 5 ft tall and 120 lbs and she shoots her Glock 27 very accurately..... She has never complained about recoil....But she is from West Virginia....LOL

Say, you guys notice who is not in the conversation?