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Posted By: kenjs1 Steel commander options - 01/03/22
My son wants my Sig Tu-Tone 1911 I have customized. If he gets it I'd like to replace it with an all steel commander sized bobtail if possible. What are my my least expensive options?
Originally Posted by kenjs1
My son wants my Sig Tu-Tone 1911 I have customized. If he gets it I'd like to replace it with an all steel commander sized bobtail if possible. What are my my least expensive options?

I hear only good things about Dan Wesson's offerings. https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/commander-classic/

Ed Brown was the originator of this pattern, but you said you were interested in a less expensive offering. Ed Brown charges about $3,200.00 for his nowadays, while the Dan Wesson is only about $1,800.00.
Kimber makes a bobtailed version like that that’s reasonably priced. Custom Shop Pro or something like that.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
There are no cheap all steel round butt or bobtail versions that I know of.

And most of the options available are lightweight frame; the only steel version that I can recall is a DW V-Bob, but Kimber may make one...... & likely would be as cheap as anything.

MM
Posted By: hookeye Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
How much to bob a reg frame?
Posted By: efw Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
At only $1800 you could buy me one also Ken! 🤣
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
There are no cheap all steel round butt or bobtail versions that I know of.

And most of the options available are lightweight frame; the only steel version that I can recall is a DW V-Bob, but Kimber may make one...... & likely would be as cheap as anything.

MM


AEGIS ELITE PRO
4” barrel
Empty weight 39 oz
Bobtail steel frame
1000 +
IIRC, after thinking about it, the Kimber Model was their Super Carry Pro.

I carried one for a couple of years before I went back to carrying my Glock 32 in 357 Sig caliber.

It was a great carry gun, never had a problem one with it. Accurate too. Just decided I wanted more rounds while carrying, as I was traveling to the big cities quite a bit at that time.
Here's a Bobtail 1911 that's only around $1,000.00, but I think it has a lightweight frame.

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Here's a Bobtail 1911 that's only around $1,000.00, but I think it has a lightweight frame.



Isn’t that the same outfit that builds the Tisa 1911’s ?
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Here's a Bobtail 1911 that's only around $1,000.00, but I think it has a lightweight frame.



Isn’t that the same outfit that builds the Tisa 1911’s ?

Yeah, the Tisas 1911A1 WWII GI replicas.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Here's a Bobtail 1911 that's only around $1,000.00, but I think it has a lightweight frame.



Isn’t that the same outfit that builds the Tisa 1911’s ?

Yeah, the Tisas 1911A1 WWII GI replicas.


Cool. Bet it’s well made.
Everyone likes to save money. On some things it’s better to buy once and cry once. Hasbeen
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
There are lots of good 1911's these days; however not many with a bobtail & a steel frame. Not very many cheap 1911's though.

The bobtail is mainly an aid for not printing when carrying, & IMO, really doesn't do much for ergonomics or shooting...............& I have 3 bobtail versions.

So if the OP is buying a steel gun, then it's likely more for range use that carrying much & if that's the case, the bobtail loses a lot of appeal, at least to me.

I have an S&W, a Dan Wesson & Christensen Custom...............all are really great pistols, with the intangible feel factor going to the DW Guardian by a hair.

Yes, it's a lightweight alloy frame to go with the bobtail for better carry use, but if the OP wants to spend the money, maybe find a used one, it's an impeccable choice. The S&W Scandium frame gun for about the same money is equally good, just a slightly different feel but still great, feel.

The DW is a very clean gun with an absolute minimum of markings on the slide & frame.

None of these guns have a FPS either, if that matters to you.

MM

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Colt Combat Commander is a steel frame gun, but not bobtailed.
Posted By: RickBin Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
If I could have a Dan Wesson V-Bob in Kali, I would.

That said, I have been very happy with the Dan Wesson Classic Commander.

Not the least expensive, but Wesson is very hard to beat for the money ...
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
I would look for a good used Colt Series 70 Combat Commander, and go from there
Posted By: Gibby Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I would look for a good used Colt Series 70 Combat Commander, and go from there



Yea, forget about the bob. It's only in the head. Good holsters work.
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
Hi and thanks guys, ERic- if I do buy two- you will be getting one...........don't go holding your breath thought buddy!

These are pretty much all the ones I have seen although the SDS is new to me. Can someone fill me in. I loved my old Kimber Carry but thought it too similar in size and weight to my CZ P40 so I swapped it for a full size Sig. A friend bought the Kimber Super Pro and that thing felt remarkable - thought I felt the scalloping on it a bit much for my tastes, I have small hands - maybe that plays into my liking the bobtail for whatever reason. Sig makes a bobtail called a Nightmare but one thing Imiss is how crisp the Kimber trigger was. Just perfect.and like a well tuned rifle trigger. The Sig's is very light just not 'crisp'. If I had never had the Pro Carry I wouldn't notice it.

A lot more options from me going non bob. Of course the Dan Wesson was one of the first I thought of but a little more than I can swing and stay married. Heck the Ruger surprised me when I saw it. Thought it was pretty dang nice. Want a completed forged steel - if possible, May have to tell my son to go find his own !
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
I bought an older Kimber Pro HD of GB awhile ago. When GB was 1/2 azz affordable. The only bobtail I have, never really carried it. Maybe once or twice? It’s a little on the heavy side for every day carry, at least for me. It is a nice shooter though. I did add the wood.
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Posted By: ldholton Re: Steel commander options - 01/04/22
Be checking out Bul Armory ..
I really like my Fusion Cco.
Posted By: gzig5 Re: Steel commander options - 01/06/22
I was going to go with the Fusion but they've been out of stock for a while. Ran across a new Springfield Armory 4.25" Ronin and snatched it up. It's aluminum frame but that is even better for my use. Shoots great and has a nice trigger. It's not a bobtail yet, but will be as soon as I get time to get the Jig and part from Brownell's. I called SA and they won't do it in their custom shop so I'll do it myself. It isn't critical to bob it, but I did like the feel of the bobbed Kimber I held a while back.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Steel commander options - 01/07/22
Man i've got a Fusion Arms all steel bobtail Commander 45 ACP, only thing i can think of that feels better in hand is a woman's boobie! it points like a finger and is more accurate than my no pistol shooting ass will ever hope to be.
Posted By: hookeye Re: Steel commander options - 01/07/22
Got my Colt Commander in mid 90s.
Very good trigger, stock
Wilson rod and Pachmayr arched MS housing the mods.
Still got it.

Longest kept rig.
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Steel commander options - 01/09/22
Gunner- I saw Fusion, and SDS. Tell me about them.
I am looking at a Springer Ronin model - which it had front stippling. I thought they made it in steel too? Or is that a different model... I would guess so. A Springfield is high on my list though.
Looking at Ruger commander- seen one and it was nice. Wish it had front stippling.
Sig makes an all steel bob or two. might go that route but would be another model 80 I guess. Always something isn't it?
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Steel commander options - 01/10/22
Not sure what's happened to this world.
Yes I am.

I wanted Dad's Ithaca 37 20 gauge.
Mowed lawns, skipped school lunches, bought one.
Wanted his 308 Finnwolf. After I got a good job, i bought one.

People today wonder "what's wrong with the younger generation"?

Look in a phuggin mirror.
That's what's wrong.
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Steel commander options - 01/10/22
Dillonbuck, , let me clarify, - son wants to BUY my SIg - or get one like it. He trusts the old man enough to buy what I have or recommend.

He isn't expecting me to give it to him. Never was. In fact, he is a type that would love to gift me such a present. He has major work ethic he thanks me for having.

He started two successful companies and travels. It was maybe ten-eleven years ago he was buying water in bottles from Costco and driving around on a bicycle selling them at parks trying to make a buck. Wasn't asking me for a handout.
He came up from Christmas and first thing he did was replace all our cannister lights - I helped but he paid for all of them. We tackled replacing pull down stairs in the garage but he hated my cordless drill and insisted on running out and buying me a new Dewalt. At this point if he wants my Sig.....I may just damn well give it to him He isn't asking me for it though.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Steel commander options - 01/10/22
kenjs1, my Fusion Arms bobtail Commander has the Fusion Arms lower, the slide, barrel and all the guts are Ed Brown, mine must have been yanked straight out of the Fusion Arms foundry bowels as i had to use the zip code for serial number to give to the insurance man LOL, it has a Binghamton NY address, great custom build, that said, i cant see why a new all steel Fusion Arms bobtail Commander would feel any different in hand, mines a two tone with Ion Boron? something or other finish on the slide and wears the pretties set of wood grips i've ever seen.

Be glad to text you some pics to give you something to add to your search bank, just PM if you have interest.
Posted By: gunchamp Re: Steel commander options - 01/11/22
Originally Posted by RickBin
If I could have a Dan Wesson V-Bob in Kali, I would.

That said, I have been very happy with the Dan Wesson Classic Commander.

Not the least expensive, but Wesson is very hard to beat for the money ...

Wessons are extremely hard to beat for the money. Owned a couple valors and they stood their ground with the baers, nh, browns ect
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Steel commander options - 01/11/22
My approval don't mean squat. And I really should have kept the pie hole shut.

But kudos to the both of you.
You all are examples of what happens when things are done right.
And work out the way they should. (Bit of luck in that)
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