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Posted By: m_stevenson Smith M&P Metal - 09/18/22
Has anyone seen one of the new M&P Metal pistols yet?
Posted By: MOGC Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/18/22
Nope... a local shop has their order in but no idea when they'll get one.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/18/22
I kinda really want one.
Posted By: RufusG Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/18/22
Saw one at an LGS yesterday, didn't handle it as I was afraid I might then buy it. I'm a big fan of M&Ps, and Smith semiautos in general, but the asking price above the plastic version is pretty steep. I'll wait and see what happens with the prices and follow-on versions for sure, can't say I'm a fan of the introductory color though.
Posted By: m_stevenson Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by RufusG
Saw one at an LGS yesterday, didn't handle it as I was afraid I might then buy it. I'm a big fan of M&Ps, and Smith semiautos in general, but the asking price above the plastic version is pretty steep. I'll wait and see what happens with the prices and follow-on versions for sure, can't say I'm a fan of the introductory color though.
What were the prices on both plastic and metal pistols if you don’t mind?
Posted By: deflave Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Interesting move by Smith.

Definitely room for success there.
Posted By: RufusG Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by RufusG
Saw one at an LGS yesterday, didn't handle it as I was afraid I might then buy it. I'm a big fan of M&Ps, and Smith semiautos in general, but the asking price above the plastic version is pretty steep. I'll wait and see what happens with the prices and follow-on versions for sure, can't say I'm a fan of the introductory color though.
What were the prices on both plastic and metal pistols if you don’t mind?

I believe the metal was between $820 and $850 and a regular 2.0 was mid to high $500s, so maybe $250 difference, give or take.
Posted By: Mathsr Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
I handled one Friday. It feels great. It is a little heavier feeling than my old M&P 40, but I like to think it feels solid! I'm going back to the store tomorrow to take another look...This could cost me some money....
Posted By: K1500 Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Interesting for sure. It probably won’t last as many rounds as the polymer frame before a frame failure but the difference will be inconsequential to the average user. I bet it feels solid.
Posted By: m_stevenson Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by RufusG
Saw one at an LGS yesterday, didn't handle it as I was afraid I might then buy it. I'm a big fan of M&Ps, and Smith semiautos in general, but the asking price above the plastic version is pretty steep. I'll wait and see what happens with the prices and follow-on versions for sure, can't say I'm a fan of the introductory color though.
What were the prices on both plastic and metal pistols if you don’t mind?

I believe the metal was between $820 and $850 and a regular 2.0 was mid to high $500s, so maybe $250 difference, give or take.
Thank you sir.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Apparently, it has a low bore axis to reduce muzzle flip. grin

Posted By: Mathsr Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by Mathsr
I handled one Friday. It feels great. It is a little heavier feeling than my old M&P 40, but I like to think it feels solid! I'm going back to the store tomorrow to take another look...This could cost me some money....

I went back and took another look at the metal M&P. After comparing it side by side to a polymer frame M&P 9mm that was also in stock, I decided to pass on the metal frame. There just wasn't enough difference in the way the pistols felt for me to want to pay the extra money. The metal frame was cut for an optical sight, but I don't really want one on this pistol, so, to me, that wasn't an advantage worth paying for. Still it is a nice firearm and I bet it will do well.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
What am I missing here?
We've had metal frame handguns forever,
plastic came along and shut that stuff down! (Largely)


Now, we've got on of the most successful plastic pistols,
with a (revolutionary?) metal frame?

See it in Glock knockoffs too.
Gamer pistols mostly, makes sense there.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Tupperware is awesome, but it doesn't exactly stir the senses.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
What am I missing here?
We've had metal frame handguns forever,
plastic came along and shut that stuff down! (Largely)


Now, we've got on of the most successful plastic pistols,
with a (revolutionary?) metal frame?

See it in Glock knockoffs too.
Gamer pistols mostly, makes sense there.
It’s a trend (seen the same thing in the motorcycle market), the market is correcting. When ALL modern pistols are polymer, there are going to be those who want a little something different, or just nicer. Notice the new Hi Power’s from Turkey, FN, and Springfield are selling like hotcakes, that’s an indication that not all metal pistols have to be a 1911. Diversification, why not have a more premium version of your standard pistol? If people will buy, why not?
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Sales makes perfect sense.
Gun companies aren't in the sensible gun business, they are in the
"Make Money Business".

Just trying to understand the draw.
Posted By: deflave Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Just trying to understand the draw.

The Carry Optics Division is huge in USPSA right now. There isn't a whole helluva lot differentiating Open from Carry Optics. Metal framed striker fired guns would (in theory) allow guys shooting Carry Optics to continue using an existing platform while eeking a little more accuracy out of the gun. I'd wager anybody that shoots an M&P in matches will soon be shooting the M&P 2.0 Metal.

Or, if you're just entering the fray it gives you a platform that should be (in theory) more inherently accurate.

Outside of the bling factor it's not something anyone would pay much attention to if they don't compete.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/19/22
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Apparently, it has a low bore axis to reduce muzzle flip. grin

I’d like to study bore axis with her.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/20/22
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Just trying to understand the draw.

The Carry Optics Division is huge in USPSA right now. There isn't a whole helluva lot differentiating Open from Carry Optics. Metal framed striker fired guns would (in theory) allow guys shooting Carry Optics to continue using an existing platform while eeking a little more accuracy out of the gun. I'd wager anybody that shoots an M&P in matches will soon be shooting the M&P 2.0 Metal.

Or, if you're just entering the fray it gives you a platform that should be (in theory) more inherently accurate.

Outside of the bling factor it's not something anyone would pay much attention to if they don't compete.


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Posted By: Fubarski Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/20/22
Metal frames out there for the P365 also.

I'll be on that, ever I find one in stock somewhere.
Posted By: m_stevenson Re: Smith M&P Metal - 09/21/22
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Just trying to understand the draw.

The Carry Optics Division is huge in USPSA right now. There isn't a whole helluva lot differentiating Open from Carry Optics. Metal framed striker fired guns would (in theory) allow guys shooting Carry Optics to continue using an existing platform while eeking a little more accuracy out of the gun. I'd wager anybody that shoots an M&P in matches will soon be shooting the M&P 2.0 Metal.

Or, if you're just entering the fray it gives you a platform that should be (in theory) more inherently accurate.

Outside of the bling factor it's not something anyone would pay much attention to if they don't compete.
Thanks. Good information.
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