There is an interesting video by BH Spring Solutions about it. Evidently, the milled slide serations protrude into the milled extractor slot, restricting extractor movement and function. The extractor spring hole needed tl be reamed smooth to allow smooth spring function to apply the needed force to the extractor. Also, the SA 35 extractor width is also about 5% thinner than the Browning HP extractor, further contributing to extraction issues ( less rim grab).
They also discuss an issue with the safety and " operating system" ( safety/sear/hammer"). It can be moved up into the slide to unintentionally lock the slide, preventing racking the slide ( "condition 3" , empty chamber, then trying to load the chamber).
check out he BHSS sa35 evaluation vids.
Hopefully Springfield Armory can correct those issues.
They have some extraction and safety drift issues.
There is an excellent video by BH Spring Solutions about it. Evidently, the milled slide serations protrude into the milled extractor slot, restricting extractor movement and function. The extractor spring hole needed tl be reamed smooth to allow smooth spring function to apply the needed force to the extractor. Also, the SA 35 extractor width is also about 5% thinner than the Browning HP extractor, further contributing to extraction issues ( less rim grab).
There was also an issue with the safety and " operating system" ( safety/sear/hammer"). It can be moved up into the slide to unintentionally lock the slide, preventing racking the slide ( "condition 3" , empty chamber, then trying to load the chamber).
check out he BHSS sa35 evaluation vids.
Hopefully Springfield Armory can correct those issues.
SA should have just used the original blueprint and specs.
They have some extraction and safety drift issues.
There is an excellent video by BH Spring Solutions about it. Evidently, the milled slide serations protrude into the milled extractor slot, restricting extractor movement and function. The extractor spring hole needed tl be reamed smooth to allow smooth spring function to apply the needed force to the extractor. Also, the SA 35 extractor width is also about 5% thinner than the Browning HP extractor, further contributing to extraction issues ( less rim grab).
There was also an issue with the safety and " operating system" ( safety/sear/hammer"). It can be moved up into the slide to unintentionally lock the slide, preventing racking the slide ( "condition 3" , empty chamber, then trying to load the chamber).
check out he BHSS sa35 evaluation vids.
Hopefully Springfield Armory can correct those issues.
SA should have just used the original blueprint and specs.
Then it would've been another pos hi-power clone with all the same stupid problems. The hi-power has always been a moron design. Springfield did it right.
They have some extraction and safety drift issues.
There is an excellent video by BH Spring Solutions about it. Evidently, the milled slide serations protrude into the milled extractor slot, restricting extractor movement and function. The extractor spring hole needed tl be reamed smooth to allow smooth spring function to apply the needed force to the extractor. Also, the SA 35 extractor width is also about 5% thinner than the Browning HP extractor, further contributing to extraction issues ( less rim grab).
There was also an issue with the safety and " operating system" ( safety/sear/hammer"). It can be moved up into the slide to unintentionally lock the slide, preventing racking the slide ( "condition 3" , empty chamber, then trying to load the chamber).
check out he BHSS sa35 evaluation vids.
Hopefully Springfield Armory can correct those issues.
As much as I want to believe that BHSS knows their stuff, I think you should take their issue with the safety with a grain of salt, since they seem to want to sell us on putting the SFS in every HiPower....which I am not interested in the least.
If all they did was make an exact Hi Power copy, but with a modified hammer to prevent hammer bite, an improved thumb safety, and leave out the magazine disconnect, that would have been a worthy gun.
If all they did was make an exact Hi Power copy, but with a modified hammer to prevent hammer bite, an improved thumb safety, and leave out the magazine disconnect, that would have been a worthy gun.
You still pisssing and moaning about a gun that is super popular because it fixes all the retardo problems if the Hi-power? Must be how you got a high post count...
If all they did was make an exact Hi Power copy, but with a modified hammer to prevent hammer bite, an improved thumb safety, and leave out the magazine disconnect, that would have been a worthy gun.
You still pisssing and moaning about a gun that is super popular because it fixes all the retardo problems if the Hi-power? Must be how you got a high post count...
If all they did was make an exact Hi Power copy, but with a modified hammer to prevent hammer bite, an improved thumb safety, and leave out the magazine disconnect, that would have been a worthy gun.
They also rated it for +P ammo that is a big selling point for me.
“Then it would've been another pos hi-power clone with all the same stupid problems. The hi-power has always been a moron design. Springfield did it right.“
“Then it would've been another pos hi-power clone with all the same stupid problems. The hi-power has always been a moron design. Springfield did it right.“
Saw one of these Springfield SA-35's in the flesh at a local gunstore today.
I was looking for something else so didn't give it a real thorough examination, just held it a bit and tried the trigger pull - which was outstanding. Maybe it's because I've been trying striker fired pistols so much lately, but I was completely surprised at how good this one was. Very short take up and a clean break I'd estimate at about 3 1/2 pounds. No grit, no creep; some overtravel but really just enough for reliability. I'd compare it very favorably to some of the better factory 1911 triggers,(note I said "factory", not custom) and lighter than many of those.
Plus, one forgets just how good those things feel in the hand. Sits nice and low, points well. My only complaint with this one is the U notch rear, it looked funny when you're so used to a square notch. But that's about the only nit I could find to pick.
That's a good price for one, MSRP was $699 IIRC and now Springfield is showing $799 MSRP. Store where I looked wanted $899.99 for theirs.
Probably not much help to those out of state and are looking for one Jim but I just got back from out running errands and the store (Atwoods) where I purchased mine just got in three more.....$649.99+ tax.
I don't need a Springfield SA-35...but I want one bad!!!
I like the fact it is made with the most current metallurgy and is rated for +P
I have 5 BHP's at the moment, one of them is a dog. It's an Argentine FM. The others are pretty awesome Inglis No1 Mk1*, Inglis No2 Mk1*, Israeli Police marked Belgian MkIII and a Belgian made British military FTR-63.
Adding a Springfield SA35 to the collection would be the cats meow
I don't need a Springfield SA-35...but I want one bad!!!
I like the fact it is made with the most current metallurgy and is rated for +P
I have 5 BHP's at the moment, one of them is a dog. It's an Argentine FM. The others are pretty awesome Inglis No1 Mk1*, Inglis No2 Mk1*, Israeli Police marked Belgian MkIII and a Belgian made British military FTR-63.
Adding a Springfield SA35 to the collection would be the cats meow
I am jealous! I have a 1995 production BHP in chrome and a Tisas clone. I had a MK2 that I loved, but not enough to trade it away (idiot!). Love the BHP's
Has anyone had any experience with the Girsan clone? I've seen and handled a few and really like the feel and fit (but they left the damn magazine disconnect in there GRRRRRR.....:)
Has anyone had any experience with the Girsan clone? I've seen and handled a few and really like the feel and fit (but they left the damn magazine disconnect in there GRRRRRR.....:)
Get one like EdM has pictured, the magazine safety was deleted altogether, and the one I looked at yesterday had a pretty decent trigger out-of-the-box. If I hadn't just bought a big old revolver last week, I'd have brought it home, but I abstained, until at least Thursday. I surely don't need another handgun right now. It was damned nice, though, and maybe by Thursday I'll man up and go buy the thing.
Three of my four Hi Powers were Browning marked, FN made, P-35s, one was a Hungarian copy (FEG PJK-9HP) which my gunsmith said had better metal than FN's pistols. FN parts worked just fine in the FEG, though, when I replaced a safety with an extended one, and an extractor that broke when I was fooling with the .41AE cartridge.
That does NOT include the newest FN pistol they call the Hi Power, it's a distinctly different pistol. Closer in size to a 1911, it sure doesn't have the slim lines of the older design.
After owning it for almost a month I finally took my new SA-35 to the range a couple of days ago with 100 rounds of 115 gr. Winch. white box so this is sort of a first 100 round review.
I didn't mess around with shooting it off bags for groups, as soon as I got out of the truck I started right in shooting at the 12" 25 yd. steel gongs and when I did my part I was hitting them consistently.....holding center gong it was hitting a little low and left but that was more than likely me but if not I can adjust the windage on my next range trip.
No malfunctions whatsoever and so far I like the gun.
I ended up buying one like EdM's Girsan HP, and it works like a champ, zero issues with no jams. The only "issue" is one that other users have noted already, the fiber optic light tube works itself out, after a couple hundred rounds. I knew about that, and was watching for it, and it never escaped it's cage.
My pistol seemed to shoot better the more I shot it, but it's been 20+ years since I last owned a HP, so it might be me. However, once I got warmed up, it seemed to shoot 115s better than heavier bullets. I had some 124s I couldn't get shooting to my own satisfaction, but then, I shot some 147s and it liked them almost as well as the 115s.
I guess I'm going to have to wait until warmer weather to really figure it out, but no hiccups of any kind, and the long beavertail is REALLY nice, absolutely no way you can get hammer-bitten by this one. It's one heckuva little pistol.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Whaddya think I was typing about in my post? MC-P35 Match, the only thing "bad" about the basic models, (besides the mag safety) is the shallow front sight, which can reflect the sun badly in some conditions. They can also be biters without the nice beavertail on the Match and Match OPS guns. Other than that, they are decent pistols, with probably better steel than FN ever used in theirs. I've heard exactly the same thing about the FEG (Hungarian clones), when I had one fitted with better sights. Since the smith that told me that was a metallurgist, I have no reason not to believe him.
I have a MkIII with no disconnect and a no-bite hammer. I bought an SA35 and I like my MkIII better. The SA35 hammer still bites. The trigger on the SA35 kind of sucked. The finish did not appear to be very durable.
About 30 years ago I had a Belgium made assembled in Portugal Hi Power tricked out by a Arizona gun smith Don Williams. Novak sights, stippling on front and rear of grip, beaver tail tang welded on, trigger job after disconnecting the wretched magazine safety, Cylinder & Slide mag release and a beautiful set of cocobolo grips from Craig Spegal.
It is a good shooting pistol that goes bang every time I pull the trigger.