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Posted By: RHClark Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/19/23
Thinking of getting one and wondered if anybody here had one and if it was reliable and reasonably accurate.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/19/23
A tiny pistol with double stack magazine for rimmed cartridges? Can there be anything inherently less reliable? I would ask on Ruger forums, but getting one reliable right out of the box will probably take a miracle.
Originally Posted by RHClark
Thinking of getting one and wondered if anybody here had one and if it was reliable and reasonably accurate.

Mine works great. Been reliable with everything Ive tried in it. Works just as well as my original Ruger LCP 380 and my LCP Max 380

CDNN had some on clearance the other day for like $199 or less if I recall correctly.
Originally Posted by Slavek
A tiny pistol with double stack magazine for rimmed cartridges? Can there be anything inherently less reliable? I would ask on Ruger forums, but getting one reliable right out of the box will probably take a miracle.

Maser. Just STFU. Your an IDIOT that wouldn’t know schitt from shinola when it comes to any REAL Firearms.
And it has a single stack magazine DUMBASS.

Maybe you should stick with Airsoft “guns” and dirty diapers, since that’s more your speed.
Schitt For Brains POS.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/19/23
Yes, $199 deal at CDNN there is no need to go further then that. Now, why a new KelTec P32 at $300+ is almost always out of stock anywhere one looks?
off topic, but Palmetto State Armory has Beretta Tomcats .32acp on sale for $399. Beretta is offering $150 rebate back, net $249. I got mine yesterday in FDE color. Really cool pistol and all METAL also, except the grips. FWIW
Posted By: Slavek Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/19/23
Originally Posted by desertoakie
off topic, but Palmetto State Armory has Beretta Tomcats .32acp on sale for $399. Beretta is offering $150 rebate back, net $249. I got mine yesterday in FDE color. Really cool pistol and all METAL also, except the grips. FWIW

There is no going wrong with that deal. PPU FMJ ammo can be found for $20 per box. It has low recoil and almost no muzzle flash. For defense use there are Fiocchi and S&B loads.
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/20/23
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by RHClark
Thinking of getting one and wondered if anybody here had one and if it was reliable and reasonably accurate.
Mine works great. Been reliable with everything Ive tried in it.
That’s been my experience, as well. The only exception is that it fractured CCI shot capsules when cycled from the magazine, spilling the tiny shot down into the mag, mag well and action (so, cross those off the list of options, unless one in the chamber is enough). However, both standard and high velocity LR solids and hollow points work just fine in my Elsie Pitu. It originally shot extremely high, so I had to file down the rear sight until I got the hits to pretty much match the point of aim:

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Posted By: RHClark Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/20/23
Appreciate it guys.
Apparently some of the early LCP-22's had issues with misfiring, and the one I got was badly afflicted with that malady. It would fail to fire at least 6 rounds of a 10-round magazine every time. I returned it to Ruger, and when I got it back it was just as bad, misfiring more than half the time. Cute little gun, but it just wouldn't work.

In desperation I ordered a performance spring kit from Galloway, and after installation the LCP-22 has been 100% reliable so far. All of a sudden, I like the little pistol.

Feeding, extraction and ejection have never been a problem. It just wouldn't go "Bang" until I put the spring kit in, even after a trip back to Ruger.
Get the Taurus TX 22 Compact and thank me later
Originally Posted by kk alaska
Get the Taurus TX 22 Compact and thank me later
There good reviews on them. So it's true then? Might have to, I'm a 22lr fan.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/20/23
The TX 22 got very good reviews. One does not need tiny .22 pistol, something larger is ok. One has to be extremely limited in options to settle for .22lr as defensive weapon. Strike one smaller pistols tend to be less reliable. Strike two ammo failure rate is much higher than with center ignition cartridges, therefore, cartridge selection is extremely important. Most reliable are highest quality match loads. Strike three match grade ammo may not function in all semi-autos. The one shining ray of hope when it comes to semi-auto compatible ammo are CCI Minimags. Some years ago when I shot lot of .22 Kings of Duds were inexpensive Remington and Aguila loads.
This is were small light 8 or 9 shot .22 revolvers shine. It is far preferable to clear the dud by pressing trigger again then clearing a jam in semi-auto.
Depending on what the intended use is, there's quite a size/weight difference between the LCPII and the TX22 Compact.

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/ruger-lcp-ii-22lr-vs-taurus-tx22-compact
Posted By: Slavek Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/20/23
From what people report online about new Ruger firearms it appears they now rely on customers to be the final QC person.
My grown daughter wanted one since she does not like recoil in small handgun . With her small hands she has trouble holding on . I liked hers so much I ended up getting one. They both serve the purpose of being small and concealable and easy to operate and control. Both have been reliable with CCI mini mags. Weather or not a 22lr is a defense weapon is another discussion. I feel it is a lot better than nothing. Kills small animals easily up close- 20 yards is a long shot , but have hit the occasional armadillo though not at a high percentage... Joe
I've not handled or shot one, can't say anything about them.

In classic campfire fashion, I'll recommend something different. I love the little LCR 22. Not really an argument against the LCP....just my love of the LCR.
For those of you carrying a .22, consider the CCI Segmented rounds. My experience with the subsonic on the trapline have been impressive compared to any RN or HP round I've tried. If your gun cycles them (my SR22 does), you may really like it.
Have carried one daily for the last couple of years. Goes bang every time I pull the trigger. And tends to hit anything I aim at within 7 yards.
Posted By: RHClark Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/21/23
Originally Posted by travelingman1
Have carried one daily for the last couple of years. Goes bang every time I pull the trigger. And tends to hit anything I aim at within 7 yards.
That would be all I would expect.
Posted By: JD45 Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 09/21/23
Originally Posted by wildhobbybobby
Apparently some of the early LCP-22's had issues with misfiring, and the one I got was badly afflicted with that malady. It would fail to fire at least 6 rounds of a 10-round magazine every time. I returned it to Ruger, and when I got it back it was just as bad, misfiring more than half the time. Cute little gun, but it just wouldn't work.

In desperation I ordered a performance spring kit from Galloway, and after installation the LCP-22 has been 100% reliable so far. All of a sudden, I like the little pistol.

Feeding, extraction and ejection have never been a problem. It just wouldn't go "Bang" until I put the spring kit in, even after a trip back to Ruger.

Same issue with mine. I had the LCP II.

Dealer swapped it for a new one. Misfire on the first mag. Seven more in 50 rds. Got a refund.

It grouped 1.5" at 7yds. and never jammed with 3 types of ammo. If only it could go bang 100 percent of the time
Mine, just bought it last month, so far is only reliable out of the box with CCI 40 gr. Mini Mags. It won't reliably fire any other type of ammo I've tried in it including CCI Mini Mag 36 gr. HPs. I tried the Galloway Precision firing pin spring and it made no difference. So far I haven't had the guts to try to install the Galloway hammer spring. Based on their installation video you better have some strong mechanical aptitude and there's a lot of parts involved. Galloway will do it for you for $50 plus freight but won't guarantee it due to ammo differences.

I'm not knocking Galloway. I got fast shipping on the spring kit and very good, fast communication from them on my questions. They seem to be a realistic first class company.

For now I'm going to shoot the 40 gr. Mini Mags since they work and I've got a lot of them. I've put two hundred through it with no malfunctions, it's as concealable as it gets, no recoil and accurate enough for it's purpose. Not that much fun to shoot but ok for what it is. I kind of like the pistol but not enough to put more money into it and wouldn't buy another one. IMO Ruger should have tested these more thoroughly before putting them on the market.
Both the SR22 and the TX22 have a lot more grip real-estate. Makes for more accurate shooting for me.
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Mine, just bought it last month, so far is only reliable out of the box with CCI 40 gr. Mini Mags. It won't reliably fire any other type of ammo I've tried in it including CCI Mini Mag 36 gr. HPs. I tried the Galloway Precision firing pin spring and it made no difference. So far I haven't had the guts to try to install the Galloway hammer spring. Based on their installation video you better have some strong mechanical aptitude and there's a lot of parts involved. Galloway will do it for you for $50 plus freight but won't guarantee it due to ammo differences.

I'm not knocking Galloway. I got fast shipping on the spring kit and very good, fast communication from them on my questions. They seem to be a realistic first class company.

For now I'm going to shoot the 40 gr. Mini Mags since they work and I've got a lot of them. I've put two hundred through it with no malfunctions, it's as concealable as it gets, no recoil and accurate enough for it's purpose. Not that much fun to shoot but ok for what it is. I kind of like the pistol but not enough to put more money into it and wouldn't buy another one. IMO Ruger should have tested these more thoroughly before putting them on the market.

I fully believe that the Galloway hammer spring made all the difference on mine. I also was a bit intimidated about installing it and had a gunsmith do it. I chickened out. But it solved my misfire problem.
Originally Posted by desertoakie
off topic, but Palmetto State Armory has Beretta Tomcats .32acp on sale for $399. Beretta is offering $150 rebate back, net $249. I got mine yesterday in FDE color. Really cool pistol and all METAL also, except the grips. FWIW

Looks like a similar deal available on the .22LR 21A Bobcat.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-model-21-bobcat-inox-22-lr-pistol-j212500.html

I was shooting one of these at the range not long ago. Thirty years ago I had bought one for my then wife but when I looked up the velocity and ME out of that stubby barrel (true of the LCP also) I traded up for an Airweight.

I had forgotten what a cool all-steel design those little Beretta’s are, 12oz. It fed and functioned with cheap .22 ammo surprisingly well. “Crunchenticker” (as Jeff Cooper would put it) first shot double-action design but with the thumb safety you could also carry it cocked and locked Condition 1 grin Just fun to shoot.

Must be Boomer bias but I can’t warm up to Ruger’s little polymer .380s even though I know they work. I’druther have a 21A (without the new threaded muzzle version) than an LCP.
Posted By: jimmyp Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 12/03/23
it seems like based on various experiences that you would be buying it walking into it eyes wide open that you may or may not get a good copy. Again for the money it probably would be fun to work on it for a while, but out of the box not sure I would carry it until I shot a bunch of rounds through it. Seems like a neat little pistol though. I had the berretta bobcat once, that thing while not that accurate was reliable with most anything.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by desertoakie
off topic, but Palmetto State Armory has Beretta Tomcats .32acp on sale for $399. Beretta is offering $150 rebate back, net $249. I got mine yesterday in FDE color. Really cool pistol and all METAL also, except the grips. FWIW

Looks like a similar deal available on the .22LR 21A Bobcat.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-model-21-bobcat-inox-22-lr-pistol-j212500.html

I was shooting one of these at the range not long ago. Thirty years ago I had bought one for my then wife but when I looked up the velocity and ME out of that stubby barrel (true of the LCP also) I traded up for an Airweight.

I had forgotten what a cool all-steel design those little Beretta’s are, 12oz. It fed and functioned with cheap .22 ammo surprisingly well. “Crunchenticker” (as Jeff Cooper would put it) first shot double-action design but with the thumb safety you could also carry it cocked and locked Condition 1 grin Just fun to shoot.

Must be Boomer bias but I can’t warm up to Ruger’s little polymer .380s even though I know they work. I’druther have a 21A (without the new threaded muzzle version) than an LCP.


With the current sales price and Beretta rebate the Tomcat was an easy purchase decision.
Posted By: memtb Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 12/03/23
I’m a little late to the conversation, but thought that I’d throw in my 2 cents.

We bought a pair of them several years ago. We’ve shot them some…..not a tremendous amount!

We had a few misfeeds, though quite rare, in the early shoots. I heard, at the time, that there were some magazine related feed issues…..which Ruger would correct. As a note, we don’t feed them anything special. We use typical copper plated Federal, Winchester, Remington bulk box HP’s of which we have an abundance. We’ve never tried any high dollar ammo in them.

Overall, I think that for what they are, they’re a good, accurate, reliable little 22 semi-auto! Enough so, it’s my ankle carry, when I’m in long pants 😁. I hope that it never gets to the point of needing it as a back-up, but it’s somewhat comforting to know it’s there if needed! JMO. memtb


Addendum: I had a bit of trouble with the sights in poor light…..probably made worse with my old eyes! I used model airplane epoxy paint, fluorescent yellow on the front and outlined the rear with white. It seemed to help a great deal….and cost near nothing. memtb
The thing that throws me off the LCP 22 is the manual states that when you have a dud you should drop the magazine first, then pull the slide back to clear the chamber-i.e. no tap, rack, bang with this one. With the sorry .22 ammunition available these days I will stick to my older style LCP .380. It isn't a lot of fun to shoot, but it works every time and has 1500+ rds through it so far. I do have a SR22 that goes with me when I think I need a pocketable .22. It is a great gun and runs like a sewing machine.
Posted By: jstert Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 01/20/24
i briefly had a ruger lcp22. it wasn’t reliable and its mags were a pain to reload. i happily sold it and bought a second ruger sr22. skip the lcp22 and go straight to a sr22.
FWIW, I've carried one daily for a few years and love the little thing.

The first time I shot it was at a buddy's private range. We were using our steel challenge pistols on an 8-plate, plate rack he'd put together.

After several runs with my Volquartsen Black Mamba with a C-More RTS-2 on it, I was feeling pretty froggy...

I told the guys shooting with me that I wanted to reset the plates and try it with the LCP II.

They were laughing at me and honestly, I had no expectations...I'd never even fired the thing.

It had a magazine full of mini-mags and when the timer went off, I went 8 for 8 with a faster time than any I'd shot with my Black Mamba.

I couldn't do it every time, but I can't remember a time I've left the house since then, that the Ruger wasn't with me...
Will a bullet from an LCP22 penetrate a 55 gallon drum?
Posted By: RHClark Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 01/21/24
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Will a bullet from an LCP22 penetrate a 55 gallon drum?

Do you think it wouldn't? A short barreled 22 may be anemic comparably but you still wouldn't want to get shot with one.
Originally Posted by RHClark
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Will a bullet from an LCP22 penetrate a 55 gallon drum?

Do you think it wouldn't? A short barreled 22 may be anemic comparably but you still wouldn't want to get shot with one.
I've had other 22 lr semis where the bullets would bounce off the side of an empty 55 gallon drum.
Posted By: Sixpack Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 01/22/24
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Originally Posted by RHClark
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Will a bullet from an LCP22 penetrate a 55 gallon drum?

Do you think it wouldn't? A short barreled 22 may be anemic comparably but you still wouldn't want to get shot with one.
I've had other 22 lr semis where the bullets would bounce off the side of an empty 55 gallon drum.

I’d like to hear more about this personally.
Originally Posted by Sixpack
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Originally Posted by RHClark
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Will a bullet from an LCP22 penetrate a 55 gallon drum?

Do you think it wouldn't? A short barreled 22 may be anemic comparably but you still wouldn't want to get shot with one.
I've had other 22 lr semis where the bullets would bounce off the side of an empty 55 gallon drum.

I’d like to hear more about this personally.

40 years ago. Sterling & Jennings pistols. Remington and Federal $10 brick ammo. Distance around 50 feet.
On 12=2 I said the only ammo mine was reliable with was CCI 40 gr. Mini Mags. Not any more. Last time out got two fail to fire out of the same 100 round box from the same lot that had worked flawlessly up till then.

I'm not buying the argument that 22 ammo is known to be undependable. If it was that bad there wouldn't have been millions of 22s firearms sold. I cant recall ever having problems like this in my other 22s, rifles or handguns. From what I've read and seen there's a good chance anyone buying a 22 LCP will get a bad one.

To it's credit it's always functioned as it should if it has good primer strikes. It'll crank out 10 shots as fast as I can pull the trigger. feeds and ejects perfect.
It's my wife's carry gun, and she shoots it really well.

It likes Remington 40gr HP and is very reliable.

She had quite a few FTF using Winchester Super_X Power Points, but I think we got a bad batch of them. The ones that would not fire in the LCP would not fire in a Walther P-22 either, even with rotating the cartridge a few times in each gun. Lot's of firing pin dents, but no 'bang'.

The LCP even shoots the CCI Stingers reliably.
Posted By: RHClark Re: Ruger LCP 2 22lr opinions? - 01/26/24
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Originally Posted by Sixpack
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Originally Posted by RHClark
Originally Posted by Epishemore
Will a bullet from an LCP22 penetrate a 55 gallon drum?

Do you think it wouldn't? A short barreled 22 may be anemic comparably but you still wouldn't want to get shot with one.
I've had other 22 lr semis where the bullets would bounce off the side of an empty 55 gallon drum.

I’d like to hear more about this personally.

40 years ago. Sterling & Jennings pistols. Remington and Federal $10 brick ammo. Distance around 50 feet.

There was either something wrong with the gun, ammo, or it was a glancing shot.

I've owned some of those POS pistols in the past. With a couple I couldn't hit a can even from a couple feet away. That has to tell you something.
I have one . out of the box it wasn't reliable enough for me. I called Ruger, they sent me a magazine to try first didn't fix the problems . They had it picked up repaired it and was back in ten days. Ruger tells you up front the have issues with Winchester ammo. Once returned it seems to shoot any high velocity ammo reliably
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