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Posted By: SU35 School me on the S&W model 58 - 03/30/24
The model 58 intrigues me for its potential and simplicity.

Curious if anyone shoots one.
I have 2 M-57s the M-58 is the fixed sight model, very good serviceable revolver
Also have 2 57's. No 58. Curious how they shoot with the notced frame sighting.
I just had my third custom model 58 done a few months ago. I love them as base guns for custom projects. This last one received Bowen’s fixed combat sights, a round butt grip frame and a rebored model 520 barrel.
I have a 4 inch 58, my first 41 mag. Shooting 200 gr Speer jhp or 210 jsp, getting great groups at same point of aim. Aim point is center hold or combat hold. Shooting Colorado Cast 210 gr a 6 o'clock hold is on the money. I didn't get a 57 for several years, so the 58 gets used more. It's like my old Smith model 10 hb on steroids.
Originally Posted by SU35
The model 58 intrigues me for its potential and simplicity.

Curious if anyone shoots one.
It's the Model 10 on steroids.
Originally Posted by Robb10238
I just had my third custom model 58 done a few months ago. I love them as base guns for custom projects. This last one received Bowen’s fixed combat sights, a round butt grip frame and a rebored model 520 barrel.
That's a sin.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by SU35
The model 58 intrigues me for its potential and simplicity.

Curious if anyone shoots one.
It's the Model 10 on steroids.


No, that title belongs to Model 520.
Introduced in 1964. A 4” barreled K frame.41 magnum with fixed sights designed to replace the 4 and 5” .38 special revolvers carried by 90% of the nations Law Enforcement. Remington released a 210 grain all lead flat point round that was supposed to give 1000 fps from the 58. A Sgt. at Columbus Ohio P. D. Wrote a proposal to replace CPD’s model 10 .38s with the 58. It made it all the way up the chain of command until the then city council saw the word “Magnum”. They shot it down. I wish I had one. They are pretty pricey if you can find one these days.

Ron
As far as I know all Model 58s are N Frame guns rather than K frame sized. As far as customizing them goes I guess each is entitled to their own opinion on who they want to use their money🤣
Posted By: RJM Re: School me on the S&W model 58 - 03/30/24
"A 4” barreled K frame.41 magnum with fixed sights".....N-frame...

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Original POLICE load by Remington and Winchester with a 210 LSWC bullet runs 950 fps... The 210 Remington SP 1250...
Originally Posted by Robb10238
As far as I know all Model 58s are N Frame guns rather than K frame sized. As far as customizing them goes I guess each is entitled to their own opinion on who they want to use their money🤣

You are correct sir. N Frame.

Ron
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
Introduced in 1964. A 4” barreled K frame.41 magnum with fixed sights designed to replace the 4 and 5” .38 special revolvers carried by 90% of the nations Law Enforcement. Remington released a 210 grain all lead flat point round that was supposed to give 1000 fps from the 58. A Sgt. at Columbus Ohio P. D. Wrote a proposal to replace CPD’s model 10 .38s with the 58. It made it all the way up the chain of command until the then city council saw the word “Magnum”. They shot it down. I wish I had one. They are pretty pricey if you can find one these days.

Ron
It has an N-Frame, not a K-Frame.
Lucky me, I finally found mine about 3 weeks ago. It's an early S-model that shipped in Jan. '66. Just about as good as it gets for a combat revolver, IMO.


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I’ve got a 57. Great gun. I wish they’d make a 41 Mag version of the Model 69.
Originally Posted by RJM
"A 4” barreled K frame.41 magnum with fixed sights".....N-frame...

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Original POLICE load by Remington and Winchester with a 210 LSWC bullet runs 950 fps... The 210 Remington SP 1250...

GREAT to see you posting here!
Originally Posted by Jcon72
Lucky me, I finally found mine about 3 weeks ago. It's an early S-model that shipped in Jan. '66. Just about as good as it gets for a combat revolver, IMO.


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Very nice, indeed. I've had only two opportunities to acquire one in the last 30 years or so. Both times I just couldn't justify the expense, as cool as they are.

For cops, the intention was a special downloaded .41 Magnum round, which is generally not available on the commercial market. It would have been like a .41 Special, and likely would have had recoil about like a .44 Special from a revolver of the same weight.
Originally Posted by Jcon72
Lucky me, I finally found mine about 3 weeks ago. It's an early S-model that shipped in Jan. '66. Just about as good as it gets for a combat revolver, IMO.


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Perfection!
I have an S prefix Model 57 in nickel, but I like your 58 much better.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
[quote=Jcon72]Lucky me, I finally found mine about 3 weeks ago. It's an early S-model that shipped in Jan. '66. Just about as good as it gets for a combat revolver, IMO.

Very nice, indeed. I've had only two opportunities to acquire one in the last 30 years or so. Both times I just couldn't justify the expense, as cool as they are.

Same here; they've always been a rare find and out of my price range. This one was owned by a local retired cop, and while it wasn't exactly "cheap" it was much cheaper than you'll normally find one, especially an S-serial. I'm on the hunt for a pair of diamond PC Magnas, now.


Originally Posted by gregintenn
[quote=Jcon72]Lucky me, I finally found mine about 3 weeks ago. It's an early S-model that shipped in Jan. '66. Just about as good as it gets for a combat revolver, IMO.

Perfection!
I have an S prefix Model 57 in nickel, but I like your 58 much better.

Thank you. While I own exactly one nickel gun and really enjoy it (a model 57-0), it's a finish that I normally shy away from.
Posted By: SU35 Re: School me on the S&W model 58 - 04/03/24
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I wish they’d make a 41 Mag version of the Model 69.

I'm with you there.
Never shot any of the Remington police loads but the WW 210 gr lswc leaded like a sob. Mb
Originally Posted by SU35
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I wish they’d make a 41 Mag version of the Model 69.

I'm with you there.

Me too!
Originally Posted by Robb10238
As far as I know all Model 58s are N Frame guns rather than K frame sized. As far as customizing them goes I guess each is entitled to their own opinion on who they want to use their money🤣

Definitely a N frame. Not enough meat on the cylinder and there would be no lower portion of the barrel forcing cone if it were a K frame. The barrel is already cut flat to accommodate the yoke on a K frame in .38 caliber.
My Dad has a Model 58 that he bought new when they came out. I don't love shooting it with full power loads, sharp recoil for me. I have since switched him over to an ACME 210 coated bullet and some Trail Boss about 800 FPS. Much more fun.

While the 41 is a bit redundant to the 44 special/magnum, it is a cool cartridge and the more the merrier!
I think of them as a grown up Model 13. Had one I got in 1970 but active military with multiple assignments around the world made owning firearms a real hassle. It's a "wish it never got away".
Originally Posted by batch
I think of them as a grown up Model 13. Had one I got in 1970 but active military with multiple assignments around the world made owning firearms a real hassle. It's a "wish it never got away".
I've got about a dozen on my list of those. Wish I could time travel back and tell myself how pissed I'm going to be that I sold them. It will require about a dozen stops.
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