anybody either buy one of these yet, or have a chance to fire one?

I would if there was one available to buy! I've had one ordered since August last year.

Been trying to order them from half a dozen distributors for months...might as well be looking for the goose that lays golden eggs...

Just a guess mind you, but no one had had much successs making a .22 mag semi-auto run...Im guessing Kel-Tec is going through the same "issues".....

A guy bought one locally and shot the snot out of it.

Word of mouth says it's front rail bent a bit downward, but I've got no confirmation.

Another gun shop in Lousiana told me the quietly recalled them, but either way the rest of them haven't been shipped yet.

Spot

Saw them at the SHOT Show this week... Very light and well balanced. They now have a carbine also that will be released in the fall.

The guns are out there... The first one to make it GunBroker sold for over $600.00....

Bob

Check out www.KTOG.org

Dang! Looks like they are blowing up everwhere. May have to cancel my standing order.

Allen, THANKS for that link! I have one of these in transit now from a trade with another member. I will use only WW 40gr ammo, (Which I have TONS of anyway....) Wally fart sells them for about $9.00 a box and they work well in all of my 22 MAgnums) And when I have opportunity and Kel Tech has an upgrade slide procedure I will then send it back for the new slide. Especially since when they get these back it seems as though they polish things up a tad at the same time. The purpose in life for mine will be a lightweight companion while bird hunting to take care of the occasional Coyote or other varmint that may show up while afield. Unloading a SBE and Re Loading with a Coyote load and then firing is slow and noisy enough that I have missed a number of opportunites. This ought to be the perfect gun for such! Looking forward to getting it and trying it out.

That's Fair_Chases link to which we are grateful.
I've never been a big lover of 22 Mags anyway, cause I enjoy reloading. My dream pistol would be one in a 22 Hornet or FN 5.67. I would have one of those FN 5.67 pistols if they weren't so butt ugly, expensive and proprietary.

Interesting, and I love 22 MAgnums because I now find relaoding to be too time consuming when shooting hundreds of rounds a day at rodents. Love loading for my big game guns and do load a lot of 222 and 223, but it is nice - in my world anyway - to shoot a big pile of squirrels and not have a bunch of loading to do.

I once owned a .22 Magnum Automag II.Made of steel.Nice looking and accurate as all get out.Another one of those "why did I sell that one?" deals.All I have heard of the Kel Tec ones is how they fly apart.

Stan in SC

+1! I have an Auto Mag in 45 Win Mag, and it is one of the most accurate pistol (other than the target pistols) I own. I've shot a friends .22 Mag Automag II and it was a great gun and thinned the jackrabbit and coyote population a good bit! Can you imagaine what a great gun that would be in the FN 5.7!

I suggest you try shooting a 5.7 FN. They shoot better than anything else I've tried in that weight range. And they hit alot harder than you'd think. I do understand that they are a touchy to reload round.
I may give that a try one day. I'd like some 45 gr. SP ammo for mine. E

I just want to know how well that hi-cap rimfire magazine works. I'd like to see that magazine design in a 22 LR from someone like Ruger or Browning. I love the 22 Mag in a lightweight rifle but prefer the 22 LR in a handgun.

A friend had one of those. Never saw any problems with it but he ever shot it much. Always heard the rimmed .22 mag case caused problems. Why more so than a .22lr? I dunno.

Never was a Kel Tec fan as they seem to specialize in 'being afordable'. However, I hope some one buys one and posts about it. There is always hope Kel Tec gets it right.

O

I have a keltec & its the best pocket pistol iv ever seen.It has never ftf,never jams.The gun you have with you is better than all your full size guns in your toy box.They are a micro glock.my 32 auto ways 5 oz.

I have had three Automag 22 MAgnums and sold them all. Terrible triggers and failure to feed and especially eject often. I have had several Kel Tech handguns and they have all been totally reliable. My sub compact 9mm is absolutely bullet proof.

BACK on topic, I just got my KelTech PMR30 and my first reaction is WOW! This thing is LIGHT! So far I love it, will shoot it a bit this weekend, and report back.

justy,

My son-in-law is a huge Kel Tek fan and carries one everywhere in an ankle holster. He's had no probs with his. I carry a larger gun in a larger caliber and haven't had any probs either. I just feel safer my way.

We agree: guns in a toy box are about useless for anything as they are too light for even a boat anchor.

O

Owned one for about two weeks. It was a POS.
Couldn't load mags. to full capacity would only take 21 rds. With 21 rds. in the mag. the slide would not go into battery.
With 15rds. or less slide would go into battery.
Of the number of rds. fired, I had a 23% success rate.
Weapon failed to fire, eject, extract, and at 20 yds. I was lucky if I could keep 30% in a 3" circle.
The place where I bought it said they took all of their mags. from display to check on the mag. capacity problem. They couldn't get more than 21 rds. in the mags. either.
Factory said "Oh you have an early model weapon. We had lots of problems with those. Send it back to us."
Yeah, right!!!!
If you don't believe me, Call the store: 804-642-9763 Ask for the "head dick or dick head" that's my term of endearment for the owner. Ask them about the weapon that "WEIRD" bought from them. They're fun people with which to deal.

Wow, that was pretty vitriolic. I just shot mine and like it a lot. The owner of Kel Tech has put out lots of excellent guns like the PM9 that is in my pocket most of the time so your post mostly makes YOU look like an idiot. Owner has been posting on the Kel Tech owners website mentioned above about how they are correcting and fixing some of the early gun problems, Might want to actually mail your gun to them and give them a freakin CHANCE to give good customer support and service. A lemon or two will go out from any manufacturing company, even Mercedes Benz and such. What separates the good from the back is the frequency of such (Kel Tech stuff is usually fantastic) and how they handle problem items which, so far as I have seen and heard they have been doing quite well with. If you don't want to send it to them, I will buy it from you for a fair used gun price, or trade you something you want for it. Everyone who has seen mine wants one.

BTW, I was able to fill the magazines on mine just fine, maybe some fingers are not up to the job.....

Well then Kel Tec should advertise, "weapon made for knuckle draggers."

Wow, you are really good at making yourself look like a nitwit, in sales are you?

Dot..,

Well, it's stories like your that cause me to shy away from 'affordable' handguns. You are not the only person who has related simular tales. A friend of mine had one go 'crunch' when it should have gone 'bang'.

I shall continue to stick with names like Colt,Smith,Kimber and Glock.

O

I have those brands too, So long as well made and reliable, they all have a place.

They're developing a carbine, folding stock, version, and looking into the possibility of a sixty round mag for it. Their new tactical shotgun looks awesome, too.

Those Kel Tech folks seem to have a knack for building really cool stuff that people want and will buy. While never magazine gun cover porn looks, always it seems with good quality, reliability and amazing price points. To have stuff like this coming out designed and MADE right here in the good 'ol USA is a good thing, methinks. I can see more Kel Tech stuff in my near future.

I haven't priced it lately, but 22 mag used to be very pricey.

And not being re-loadable.
It's a cost that never lowers.

At the ammount I shoot, it would be a deal breaker for me.

Discount stores and gun shows have it for under $10.00 per box. Even WW 40gr HP'S are less than that if you look and shop a little. The time of having to reload all that ammo is my deal breaker, but we all hve differing value's of time vs hard cash.

Thanks for the info.
I used 22 mag for years on backyard woodchucks.
My place was 150 yards and it was the perfect round for those rodents trying to see their shadows.

Your correct, time vs cost changes through out our lives. And incomes.

Bill Gates can't stop to pick up a $100 bill. He'd be loosing money!

I enjoy using my single stage press , puttering away , one round at a time in my basement.

A bud of mine has an AMT Automag II in .22 mag and it shoots/functions VERY well indeed. Accuracy is great, I was able to hit clay pigeons laying against my backstop at 150 yards with significant regularity. It never failed to function on me, but I din't put too many rounds through it. Trigger certainly could have been better, but it wasn't horrendous.

If Kel-Tec can sort out the issues, that could be one REALLY fun pistol.

I'd hazard to guess that I've owned and shot more Kel-Tec products than most on this site, and I've yet to find, fire, or have in my presence a "bad one".

Most that bring up the flaws are citing an "example of one", at best (assuming veracity).

And when a "bad one" is found, Kel-Tec's customer service is second to none.

Yep. They'll happily fix any problem.

Yep; which normally gives away the "well, it was a turd and they wouldn't even fix it..." crowd, FAST, to any with first-hand knowledge.

My first K-T .380 had a barrel that was not to my satisfaction (shot fine). Called them, explained the situation... the NEXT day, I had a UPS pick-up slip for that barrel AND a new barrel.