Can anyone compare use of this ammo to CCI SV?

Application: killing ground squirrels at a farm, shots within 50 yards. Bolt rifle with 22" barrel, Marlin 880 SQ.
I see that the Quiet ammo is available both in HP and RN.

As accurate as SV?

Thank you

Velocity is only 710 fps so it drops significantly more than SV. Basically, a 25 yd load and not as accurate as SV in my rifles. It is CB cap quiet. The fragmenting loads are good killers for dispatching vermin.

djb
Thanks! How much drop compared to a SV load?

Try the Quiet Auto too. Heavier bullet, a little faster. Last time out, it landed pretty close to several standard velocity loads. Only real way to be certain is to try them in your rifle. Not only elevation, but windage may differ.

Have had decent accuracy in some guns with both, not so hot in others, but only truly bad in revolvers for some reason, just like Aguila Colibris. The Auto version cycles my 10/22, btw, so if limited to one of the two, I’d take Auto.

Sorry, I don't know the actual drop difference but it would be significant enough to miss a small rodent. You may be okay if you re-zeroed the rifle to 50 yds, and used the fragmenting loads.

Thanks fellas.
I left a message with CCI just now re drop difference between SV and Quiet. If I get a call back I'll post what they tell me here

A friend and I have now gone through just under a case of 710 fps seg HPs killing rats with night vision on dairy farms. To 20 yds they are vicious, either DRT or close.

Between 20 and 30 yds they kill but expect runoffs......and squealing. We shoot the Quiet segs inside barns, often right under the noses of cows where rats eat the silage. Cows don't care.

We accuracy tested in Ruger Americans and my Anschutz sporter. Even ignoring the need for accurate distance assessment, they exhibit significant vertical stringing beyond 25 yds, reflecting velocity variations.

You could make hits at 50 yds on larger vermin, but the punch is gone at that distance.

We accidentally took a box of the 1050 fps subsonic HP segs out one night. Luckily we started outside. Wow! Much more impressive DRTs out to 35 yds. Bit more noise tho.

Good stuff, Sam, thank you.

I would expect them to be about on a level with the Crossman pellet guns we had as kids.

I’ll echo what others seem to have said. It’s a nice very quiet round for killin pest up close. Rodents in a barn, a raccoon or possum in the the corner of your suburban neighborhood garage that sort of thing. Definitely not ideal for ground squirrels out to 50 yards. Not that it won’t work but you’ll miss a few and won’t always get fast kills.

They are considerably more powerful than that.

When the Quiets first came out they were pretty cheap, about $2.25 a box, so I bought a bunch as practice ammo. They were good enough up to 50 yards for offhand practice, as long as I ignored or adjusted for the POI difference. In auto or SS pistols, they were okay as well, single fed in the autos. Haven’t done well enough in anything to be considered for shooting live critters (I don’t have a barn), and I’ve never bought more. The Auto version seems more promising, and cycles the autos, so I may buy more of those if I find them at a decent price. Seems like both were higher than SV before the crunch hit, and SV is a much more useful round. The even less powerful Colibris have only good to about 10 yards or so, single-fed in pistols, and land about 3/4” low at that range (my basement).

A couple of years back, SGammo had RWS HPs in both SS and HS for about $25 a brick. I bought a couple of each (the SS was my standard small game load). Wish I had bought a lot more now! That’s one instance where “Mr. Prepared” futzed up, for sure. Still have enough to hunt with, but at that price, especially the SS, they’re a great all-around ammo, just like SV. At $8 or $9, not so much.

I've recently gotten into air rifles a bit. So it seems my CCI Quiet equivalent is a 25 cal PCP air rifle.

CCI Quiet:

40gr, 710 fps, 45 ft-lbs

50 yard accuracy? I have seen a few YT vids, accuracy doesn't look so good past 20 yards or so, but maybe some rifles shoot them better.



25 cal Avenger PCP rifle:

25.4gr, 900 fps, 46 ft-lbs

55 yard accuracy,

My old Marlin bolt action .22 shoots 5 shot groups you can cover with a dime at 30 yards with the CCI Quiets. Haven't shot them further than that and really have no need as I have a good stash of CCI SV and Mini mag for longer distances. The Quiets are A LOT more accurate in all of my rifles than the CB longs or shorts.

Good to about 30 yards, still probably minute of tennis ball. I have heard reports of the cci semi auto quiet being closer to the sv in accuracy and drop but havent verified myself

Email I received from CCI this morning,

"
When zeroed at 25 yards the Quiet 22 will have a drop of 23.6 inches at 100 yards and with the same zero on Standard Velocity you would have 8.7 inches of drop."

right this moment, on the CCI website, the Quite is available. 10 box max. $5.99 a box

I ordered 5 boxs. Web site said there were 960 boxes still on hand.

Sam,
Thanks, yeah I've been watching the site too. The RN Quiet Target is available. I'll probably buy a few to try, but it's the Segmented Quiet I really want.
Dan

I just looked at my records for standard velocity ammo that I've been using:

1. My CZ with a suppressor will go .174 at 25 yards for a 3 shot group with the CCI Quiet.

2. My Russian Biathlon will go .38 at 50 yards for a 5 shot group with the CCI Standard Velocity.


The Quiet does need to be placed well on squirrels to get a DRT as a body hit may times runs off with about a 10-15 yard sprint before the lights go out

The CCI SV is much more lethal at distances up to 50 yards with one shot stops however due to the noise increase without a can it has to be shot in selective areas.

Beyond those respective ranges the bullet drop is a big guess and for me usually wrong.

TC Contender with a suppressor will put 3 shots in a dime at 25 and I can here the hammer drop. Dotted the eye of a coon on the bird feeder at 20 yards last week from my bedroom window and my bride never even stirred.

I have had them bounce off a raccoon's skull, so make sure you get a clean shot with them at a more or less right angle. I'm not a fan, but sometimes they're a "must have" item. The fragmenting type is much better at killing than the round-nosed version.

Even better are the Subsonic fragmented type, a little faster and kill a LOT better. They also hit much closer to standard velocity stuff.

The regular Quiet load will drop about six inches below High Velocity loads at 50 yards.

I've got a couple boxes of the 40gr but I've only shot a handful. They definitely pack a bit more punch than the 29gr CB Long. They are pretty inaccurate out of my 9422 and my old my little Savage single shot, though. I've mostly gone to air rifles for quiet pest dispatch because I can consistently make headshots with them out to 20 yards, where I can't with the Quiets.

CB Longs will bounce off a raccoons head as well even at 10 ft.

Pretty much agree with djb.

Except I had a Remington 580 that I sighted in for 50 yards with CCI Quiets. We shoot eggs at 50 yards offhand and despite the terrible trigger, I've done better than any other rimfire rifle/round with it.

Solids are good for head and chest shots, though on some chest shots ground squirrels will make it to a hole. I've gone to hollow points for DRT kills. Ground squirrels, which are completely out of control in our area, DRT does not matter, just that they are dead.

Jerry

I use them for shooting red squirrels around my barn. They work fine for that. I've never tried wring them for accuracy as most of my shots in the pines that the squirrels hide in are pretty short. I did do a little trajectory work with them, marking the dial on my scope out to 70 yards, but as I said, I never shoot that far with the Quiets.

they make the quiets in a semi auto quiet version, much closer to standard velocity.

20 yards from a T/C Contender, bag rest.



Same distance with real ammo.



There are better options IMHO

I used to use CB longs to deal with my red skwerl problem and I still have a box or so on hand. I should try a side by side comparison between the Quiets and the CBs. The results I got the few times I shot paper with the Quiets must have been less than memorable, because I don't remember getting anything special.

I've been shooting the Quiets out of a CZ bolt action with a can and find them to come up a wee bit short on some of the larger tree squirrels we have here in Idaho. I've got many acrobatic responses and many run offs to try and make it up the next tree and fail but have lost a few with shots that I thought were in the chest. The head movements are constant and quick due to the closeness of the house so I have passed on those for now......but it looks like I need to revisit that decision.

The CZ with the Quiet load is .174" at 20 yards and most shots are 20-25 yards. Another shooting combo is a biathlon shooting PMC standard velocity HP with group size of .38"at 50 yards that is a definite anchor but louder than the CZ set up.

I thought CCI made a Quiet load around 850fps but it's almost impossible to be picky about .22lr ammo today and I've struck out trying to find it.

Any suggestions for a subsonic load that is around 850-900fps that is somewhat available ???

I just picked up a couple of CCI Quiet boxes with the segmented bullet in them. The velocity is the same as the regular Quiet at 710fps and the bullet weight is the same at 40g.

I was hoping for more effectiveness on squirrels with the segmented round but would be interested in the experience with these segmented Quiets.

I've shot a raccoon or two with the segmented Quiets, and they killed quickly enough, but using the same bullet in the Subsonic version works even better. I'm not a real big fan of the Quiets, as per my post above.

I agree with you on the effectiveness of the Quiet round at 710 fps....even with the segmented bullet which should help the performance.

My situation is shooting squirrels in a urban setting where quiet is most important with tree huggers for neighbors. I think I upgraded my round by going to the segmented bullet but the test will be in shooting the tree rats and see how effective they are.

The round I've been trying to find is the CCI Quiet Semi Auto #975CC with the 45g bullet at 835 fps but it is impossible to find today!!!!! The additional 125 fps will hopefully increase the kill effect along with a slightly heavier bullet at 45g.

I'm shooting this new segmented Quiet out of a CZ scoped with a can and it is less noise footprint than a bb gun and very accurate out to about 25-30 yards. I do have another set up for standard velocity in an accurate rifle but there is a definite increase in sound which makes me careful as to when to be shooting that combo

We've gone through a few bricks of the Quiet segs killing rats at night with NV on dairy farms. Most are larger than red squirrels I shoot off the feeder, and closer to grays in size. Zero to 20 yds we get quick kills to DRT. Beyond that can expect run-offs with body shots. We have no inclination to retrieve them. The farmers are more than happy to have us kill as many as we can. They don't disturb cows, and we shoot them inside barns, often right in the feed troughs. Vertical dispersion limits practical use to 25-30 yds.

My CZ455 doesnt like the CCI quiets

I bought a box of CCI “subsonic hollow points” the other day to try. So far they will cycle my 10/22 sported and seem to be accurate in it and a Ruger bolt rifle. I want to say velocity is 970 but that is trusting my old memory. I’m going back to buy more if there are any left.
Rick

My Mk IV 22/45 Tactical loves those things and spits the empties like a pickaninny spitting watermelon seeds. I believe the advertised velocity is 1050fps.

My CZ455 does very poor with the Quiet rounds. I have two bricks and disappointed. My Finfire with Lilja barrel and Jewel trigger does not like them either.

This on the nut same. Experience. Mb

None of my .22's like the Quiet rounds as well as they like the CCI Sub-Sonic 40gr HP @ 1050fps. They have the yellow band on the label with "Small Game" in black on it.

Sub-MOA capable in two rifles of mine out to 100 yards. My granddaughter was regularly whacking a 4" gong @ 200 yards with them a couple of months ago. She moved to the 2" gong and hit it three out of five shots before the wind kicked up and ended her run.

They work great on varmints, too!

Ed