Tell me about your 338-06 rifles. What did you build it on, what bullets do you like most, what type of game are you using it on?

Ruger MK II, had it rebarrelled as a 7x57, got bored with it. Sent to JES, had him rebore it. Shooting the 200 AB's, killed the one elk I pointed it at.

338-06AI gifted to me from late relative's estate. ER Shaw 2 1/2 barrel contour; 24". Zastava Mk X action. McMillan arctic camo.

Best performance to date 210 Swift Scirocco over Re-17, but 200 NAB over either CFE-223 or Big Game is no slouch either. Used 210 NPT over Re-15 earlier in life to good results.

Have taken it on backcountry deer hunt (in bear country) and elk.

Stevens 200, McMillan Mountain Rifle stock, barrel originally made for a Winchester and fitted to my rifle. Shoots good, haven't hunted anything with it but it's in the cue.

Mike

Mine is on a Remington 700 action.
Shilen #3 cut at 23 inches.
Micky stock.
It shoots 200 - 225 grain bullets very good.
I haven’t tried anything larger than 225 Nosler Partitions

I believe I’d rather have a .35 Whelen, if I felt I needed a bigger bullet than a .30 caliber, and didn’t want magnum recoil.

Also hard to fault a 200 grain bullet from a 30-06, if more power is the point.

Mine is a Husqvarna via S&W with a Shaw barrel. I settled on 210 great Nosler Partitions over IMR4320. VB Could gain some with other posters but it shot well. IMR 4320 was suggested to me many years ago by Chub Eastman. Have only used it on deer and black bear so far.

I purchased a factory rifle, the Weatherby Ultra Lightweight in 338-06. Shot one elk with a 210gr TSX moving a little less than 2700 fps. With a 2.5-8x36 Leupold it weighs around 7 1/4 pounds empty and carries real well. If you can find one I would highly recommend it.

I’ve been thinking about getting a Ruger and having it rebarrelled. The thought of sending one to JES to rebore never occurred to me, thanks!

Question for you guys do you believe the 338-06 has real world performance better than a 30-06 with 200gr or even 220gr bullets?

Mines on a FN with good bottom metal wearing a 24" Douglas sitting in a BC stock. Old style Redfield Jr base with flip up ghost ring peep,has a ramped frt sight. So far 200 gr Hornady SP and SST bullets 2 deer and a coyote. Timney trigger, I am sure it all cost 2-3 x to build than I paid for it. MB

There's a good question. This should get interesting.

My 338-06 is built on an FN action with a 24” Shilen barrel. It will shoot 200 gr. bullets the same velocity my 30-06’s shoot 180’s. I’ve taken a few elk with 200 and 225 gr. bullets with good results, but I really built the rifle to shoot 225 and 250 gr. bullets. A 250 gr. Hornady SP is death on moose. If I wasn’t going to shoot bullets over 200 grs., I would stick with the 06.

I would say that the performance on game between the 30-06 with 200gr bullet and a 338-06 and a 210 to 225gr bullet would be so close as to not be detectable. Were the 338-06 may pull away from the 30-06 is when you get to 250gr bullets. The .338 diameter 250gr bullet has the kind of sectional density to penetrate thru most any game animal in North America and do it with a larger diameter bullet than the .308 diameter 200gr bullet.

I have always been perplexed when I hear someone say the 375 H&H is no better on game than a 9.3x62, 9.3x62 is no better on game than the 35 whelen, the 35 whelen no better on game than the 338-06, and the 338-06 no better on game than the 30-06 with a 200gr bullet. That thinking means the 30-06 with a 200gr bullet is as good on game as a 375 H&H. I don't think so.

The difference is small and incremental but additive, so the difference does exist in my opinion.

My 338-06 started out a a Remington 700 Long Range 30-06 that I sent to JES to rebore to a 338-06.So far I've taken two red deer with it and it performs very well.One was taken with a 200gr Accubond,the other was taken with a 200gr Nosler Silver Ballistic Tip.Both these bullets shoot the same POI out of my rifle.
I use Lee 338-06 A-Square dies.I use once-fired 30-06 Winchester brass I buy from crod1972 (250) Win 30-06 1 x fired 45.00 tyd.You can't beat that price,you just gotta watch out for when he post brass up here on the forum,it usually goes quick.Resizing it is easy,just make sure to lube the inside of the neck well since your necking the brass up.After sizing the brass,it's going to be just a tad short on length,but that has no affect on it what so ever.I've only shot 200gr Nosler Silver Ballistic Tips,200gr Accubonds and 210gr Nosler Partitions.They run around 2800fps and it shoots about as flat as a 30-06 with 165gr.As for powders,just about everything between Varget to 4350.I use a WLRM Primer in mine.I really don't see much difference between the WLR and the WLRM primers,so I quit buying standard primers and just shoot the magnum primers in my 308 Win,30-06,338-06,7mag and 300 mag.Some of the powders I shoot are ball powder and they recommend a magnum primer.
Here are some of my loads:
180gr Accubond 58.0grs Varget 3010fps
180gr Accubond 60.0grs Big Game 2940fps
200gr Accubond 60.0grs 760
200gr Accubond 62.0grs H4350 2740fps
200gr Accubond 63.0grs Hunter 2730fps
200gr Accubond 59.5grs BLC-2 2830fps
200gr Accubond 56.0grs Varget 2849fps
210gr Partition 54.0grs Varget 2721fps
200gr Accubond 59.0grs CFE223 2807fps
200gr Accubond 59.0grs Big Game 2812fps
200gr Accubond 61.0grs Accurate 4350 2661fps
210gr Partition 59.0grs Accurate 4350 2777fps

Mine is a Weatherby.

I have two.
24" #3 contour barrel on FN Mauser, with an early laid-up fiberglass stock that I refinished nicely. Other is an original Springfield barrel on a very early double heat treat '03, was already cut to 19" carbine when I got it. bore was shot out. Sent it to JES for rebore to .338-06. Walnut stock I have re-profiled and slimmed down to a nice classic form. Decelerator pads on both.
The Mauser likes the 225 Partition with 2000-MR the best so far. Gets 2700fps easy with that. 2000-MR has been a wonder powder in my 35 Whelen AI so I gave it a try in the .338.
So far the '03 carbine likes 61-62 gr Big Game with the 210 partition best.
Load work isn't mature by any means for either, as they are both less than one year new to me, but I plan to use one or the other for my cow tag in AZ this September. Haven't shot either at a critter yet.

I have both a 338-06 and 35 Whelen on pre-64 Model 70s, with the original barrels and excellent orig Winchester iron sights.
They were done in WA and ID, re-chambered and re-rifled. Both are accurate.
The 210 and 225 Nosler partitions work on heavier game. Just like the 35 Whelen, 250- 275 or 300 gr bullets can be used.
This puts both rifles into the 333 Jeffery or 350 Rigby category-both very effective and popular in Africa.
For use in bear country, both outshine the 30-06 if a bear shows up at the moose gut pile.

The 338 -06 within 150 yds will keep up with the 338WM, and is an efficient cartridge. Better than the 338 Federal
with heavy bullets. This rifle has an older Super Grade stock, which makes it attractive with Leupold 1.5 X 5 X scope.

Accurate with all bullet weights.

I have owned 338-06's in 700, 7600, VZ 24 mauser, and springfield actions.

Currently own three on Model 70 classic actions.
Hunting Rifle with 3# Shilen in a McMillan Edge
Suppressed rifle with #4 Shilen in a B&C stock
Safari rifle with a #3 Shilen, Dakota Arms sights, and Supergrade stock. Just about finished.
All with 1:9 twist.

I have shot bullet weights from 160 to 275. Have come to prefer 200-210gr bullets.
I have had the best results with Varget powder.
Have shot cottontails, coyotes, antelope, deer, Black bears, and elk with them.
Bullets used on animals have been:
180gr Accubond
200 gr Accubond, Ballistic Silvertip, and Hornady SP (disc)
210gr TSX and Partition

Right now I have two go to loads for the top two rifles. The Ballistic silvertip running 2795 and the a 210gr TTSX running 2815. Also had a 200gr Accubond load but just did not see the performance difference on the Black Bears we shot in SE Alaska in June.

Is it more than a 30-06 with 200gr bullets? Yes, exactly 0.03 inches more.
Is it better? I think so, but not enough to get panties in a wad over.

I like the cartridge and the rifles. I simply would not hesitate to use one on anything, with the exception of probably elephant and rhino. From what I have seen with a 210gr mono, I cannot imagine needing a 250gr bullet.

I may mess around with some 225gr monos in the Safari rifle, but the plan is to use 210gr T/TSX and regulate the sights with that load.

I have had no issues necking Win and Rem 30-06 brass up, and also have a bunch of Norma properly head stamped brass.

Mine is on an A-bolt Stainless Stalker rebarreled with a 25" 10 twist Shilen Supreme. Since I bought 1/2 the reamer it's also an Ackley Improved throated short for 210 Partitions seated to the base of the neck. I developed loads with the Speer 200 Spitzer, after which the 210 Partitions shot well at about 2800fps without too much further adjustment. I had it built in 1991 with dreams of a Montana &/or Alaska hunt. Life happens, plans change whether we like it or not. It's never killed anything & at this point in my life I doubt it ever will unless I decide to shoot a deer in the lower 40.

All these new bullets & powders... I just started working with it again & had it out to the range today. It shot those black CT 200gr. Ballistic Tips & a case full of the newer short grain H4350 at 2965fps into 1/2 to 3/4" 4 shot groups. Will be trying RL17 next. Maybe we'll see 3000+?

Some serious numbers 358!
I really regret not sending an 06 Tikka donor to a JES to reborn to 338-06.

What was it about your .338-06 that makes you feel a .35 Whelen would be better?

338-06 Ackley.....

Stainless 700, 21 1/2" Rock Creek barrel, McMillan Classic stock, Leupold 3.5-10x40 in Talleys.

7 pounds, 12 ounces.

200 BT's or 210 Partitions at 2800.

Hunted it one time and killed a mature doe with the BT. She was impressed.

My 338-06 was a rusted bore pre-64 270, sent it to JES, bought a Pacific Research syn stock from Jorge here at the 'fire, all metal was cerakoted by my 'smith, it wears a 2.5-8 leupold in dual dovetail bases and rings with BC cap and camo tape on the scope tube for the muzzle, it's an all weather/all game rifle, it fires at 210gr partition at a very accurate 2800 fps with H-380 powder.

As far as being more effective than an '06 with 200/220's, I don't know, do know I ran 250gr A Frames at 2550 fps, and 275gr A Frames at 2400 fps with RL-17 powder, that's got to count for something bashing big meanies up close.

Gunner, if you ever want to part with that rifle, let me know!

Not a whole lot of critters are going to walk away from those 250-275gr loads. Nosler is making a 300gr Accubond that would be interesting to play with too.

In addition to 0.03 bigger diameter, it is 150-200 fps faster with the 200-220gr weights. On paper, it is better IMO, but in the field?????

I like!

Mine, a vz24, 26" Douglas barrel, will shoot the Hornady 225's into 1.5" groups at 200 yds all day long.

This bullet is awesome:

https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....ly-tipped-tripleshock-flat-base-50-count

I put mine together in 1995 starting with a M700 synthetic 30-06 from Walmart. I sent it to Cliff LaBounty for a rebore then bedded into a McM KS take-off I had. Worked up a good load using the 210 gr Partition over VV N550. A buddy and I headed up to Leadville the following year and by 8 AM opening day it had done its job.

I have a ton of headstamped brass, dies, bullets, primers, and powder. Oh yeah, and a mint LH M70 with the smoothest action I've ever seen just begging to have its factory barrel duplicated and chambered in 338-06. Its next winter's project. Can't wait.

I sure will CRS, and LOL, this reminds me of when I was at my bench shooting those 275gr SAF's and had a buddy pull up in the pasture and ask me what I was shooting, I said 338-06 with 275gr SAF's at 2400 fps, said it was my mini 416 Rigby load, he laughed and snickered, yeah okay...........I said I bet a Cape Buffalo wouldn't be laughing ; ] no, nothing I can think of would shrug off either big Swift at those speeds inside 300 yards.

BTW, damn nice rifle aalf.

That’s a beauty!

Not a doubt in mind that a 338-06 loaded with a good 250-300gr bullet would have no issues with a cape buffalo. I would question the nut squeezing the trigger more than the ballistics.

And that danged Gunner is plenty of a nut.

I saw that cause you have to be one to know one!

LOL Men, we should be laughing at the nut in the pasture poking fun at my 338-06 loaded with 275gr A Frames, he's the real joker here ; ]

The nut comment was a general comment, I have resembled that remark more than a couple times. But if the description fits.......

Now I am going to have to order some 250gr monos to play with.

Gunner, I've appreciated your willingness to load heavy for caliber or what I consider: appropriate to caliber. As you very well know, I've put a lot of 300 grain a-frames through moose and caribou, leaving the muzzle at 2400 fps from the ole nine-three. From 100 yds, to 500 yds, they've cleanly sailed through bull moose and caribou. Not long ago, 275-300 grainers were common in the 333 okh. The 275 swift A frame is a great bullet.

In the little 358 winchester, my quickest kills were with a 275 grain woodleigh at 2200 fps. A 55" racked bull and a 56" racked bull. Velocity, nor trajectory never ran my show.

Built mine on a new M70 Classic stainless action. It likes the 200/210/225 bullets. I do not know if it is better than an 06 and do not care. IF you can't kill something with either you need to stay under the porch. If you are looking for info fine but if you are looking for another pissing match go away. Ray

We should use your quote everytime a post or thread is started, talking about standard medium bores.

Oh grand minimilists, please excuse my appreciation for this practical medium bore. I apologize that's it's not a 30-06, or a 270 winchester. Oh great standard bearers looking down on upon me from your modern day thrones and key boards: please humbly accept that my 9.3x62 mauser is older than yes, even the 30-06 or 270. Please keep me in your prayers, that it's not common and I may have to hand load.

Very nice looking rifle!

Thanks....shoots too:

1963 Remington 700 rebored by JES. Cerakoted and dropped in one of the older checkered Remington synthetics. Topped with a Leupold 2-7 LRD, shoots 210 Partitions over RL17. My favorite hunting rifle.

It has taken whitetail and elk. One big cow took 2 of the Partitions through the lungs and another in the shoulder before she new she was supposed to be dead.

Great cartridge.

Still kickin myself in the ass for not buying one of those years ago

Would a Remington 798 in 30-06 be a good rifle to have rebored to a 338-06? I have one I’m not using. How much does he charge ? Thanks

The best thing to do is call him.I don't think he does email and he probably won't answer the phone because he's busy.Just call,leave a message and he will call you back.Looks like he's charging $250 and that includes return shipping.When I shipped mine to him,I got it back in two weeks from the time I sent it to him.I took mine to the range today because I put a different scope on it.It is among the best shooting rifles I own.Here is a group I shot today.200gr Accubond,Win Case,WLRM Primer,59.0grs Big Game.
Here is JES link
http://www.35caliber.com/2.html

Group I shot this morning

like.

If the point of the .338 is a larger diameter and wound channel than a .30 caliber, the .35 is even more of the same.

Admittedly the cartridges are very close and I doubt one could tell much difference on game. The advent of today’s superb premium bullets, such that smaller diameter bullets are much more capable today than, say, 40+ years ago, has taken some of the shine off the larger diameter calibers. Back then, the solution was larger diameter and heavier bullets. Today, they are much closer in practical effects.

Damn, good stuff to know mainer in ak, thanks for the on the job results, mine were/are sheer speculation, but sounds like they'll work for all, glad to hear about the little 358 Winchester "that can" too.

Because of this thread, I dug my 338-06 out of the safe, it with BC sling, cap and five rounds weighs exactly 8.25 pounds on Wifes canning scale, had also forgot my old 'smith that cerakoted the metal installed me a stainless M-70 Winchester trigger too boot, it's really nice when you share your intentions on a build with a 'smith and they go you one better one their own, it was so pretty sitting up there on that scale I had to take a pic, CRS, PM me your cell number and i'll fire you up a pic of a rifle I may sell you someday.

Great shooting baldhunter, mine shoots exactly like that with necked up WW '06 brass, 64gr H-380 under a 210gr Partition, CCI-250 primers get it lit.

Damn fine shooting!!!

M70 Classic stainless, #3 PacNor SM 3 groove, McMillan Hunter edge fill.

That’s a hell of an endorsement.
Nice shooting.

Sent a stainless 308 tikka that was special to me to Shaen's rifles. Douglas magnum 9 twist barrel, a few mountain tactical upgrades, mcmillian custom sako edge stock (only 5 weeks) and currently a nightforce 3x10 shv. A bunch of load data help from Baldhunter, this thing is seriously becoming my favorite rifle. Primarily working on 160 ttsx and 185 ttsx both with varget.

EdM, nice work ,good looking shooter and you made me laugh. You based your rifle on the the ADL. For the last 50 years ADL 700's have out numbered the BDL's in my collection for 1 reason , they shoot better. Magnum Bob

Not sure why I'd want a .308" 200 gr at 2600 when I can have a .338" 200 gr at 2800 at distances < 300 yards?

The original post about the 338-06 and here we are on another whining match about something the poster didn't ask about. Having said that what can't you kill with either ?

Rem700 XCR-II with a stainless, benchmark #3? Sitting in a McMillan.
Load is a 210 TTSX over RL15

Haven’t tested on game but bought for elk hunting originally. Now it just collects dust, not sure if/when it will get my attention again. 280ai holds my interest at the moment.

Pre 64 md 70 "transition"...25 inch Donnelly barrel.. 200 gr speer's at 2830 with re17... It's hell on spring bear.

Mine is a Kimber Montana, rebored and chopped to 21 inches by JES. Shoots 205gr Sledge Hammers over RL17 at 2810 into less than an inch. It weighs 5lbs 13 oz scoped with Talleys and a 2.5-8x36 VX3i B&C reticle. Inside of 300 yards it’ll do everything I ask of it.

I have had mine for over fifteen years.

I bought someone else’s project. It is on an early 700 action with the square safety. It has a barrel inscribed H S Precision. It is bedded into a Remington Classic stock. It is painted with a black flat finish. When I got it, I thought it was Teflon finish. It could just as easily be cerracote. I have not shot it a lot. It went to Colorado on an elk hunt, but I have not killed anything with it. I bought it with dies, bullets, and brass for less than what it would cost to get a barrel and have it installed.

I would really like to know what it cost to build. This thread makes me want to get it out and use it.

A few years back, I saw a Dakota Classic Deluxe in 338-06, 23" barrel, on sale on the 'net for $2,900. I bought it and have been shooting it at the range with Nosler Custom ammo in 180 gr., 210 gr. & 250 gr. bullets.

It is my hope to take it on my next Elk hunt. I have not taken any animals with it as yet.

Here is my pair of 338-06's.





Top
Model 70 Classic
Shilen 1:9 twist 23"
Mcmillan Edge
Trigger breaks at consistent 2.75#
Leupold VXR 2-7 illuminated
Weight is 7.75# as shown
Really likes 200gr NBST's and 210gr TTSX both right around 2800 fps. Shoots the 200gr NAB not quite as good into 1.25"

Bottom
Model 70 Classic
Shilen 1:9 twist #4 22" threaded for suppressor
B&C stock
Trigger breaks at same 2.75# consistently
Leupold VX6 1-6 European
Weight is 8.75# as shown
Likes both 200gr NBST and NAB, also have a suppressed load at 1050fps using Hornady 200gr FTX bullets

I call the top rifle my hunting rifle and the bottom rifle threaded.
The hunting rifle has done this.



200gr NBST recovered from deer. Complete pass through on bear.


Both dropped on the spot.

My son actually prefers the threaded rifle.


200gr NAB recovered from bear on off shoulder.


I love the looks of a 338-06 cartridge!

Those two bullets are my favorites.Mine shoots them the same POI.I think the B.C. could be wrong on that bullet.It sure doesn't affect it's performance on game,just looks a little better on paper.It is listed at .414.Hornady shows their 200gr SST at .455.Even the 200gr FTX is at .430.A closer comparision would be the Barnes TTSX.It's B.C. is .432.The length is 1.349 S.D. is .231.Nosler 200gr B.C. .414 Length is 1.340 S.D. is .250.

Nice rifles and pics of game Gents, I grabbed my 338-06 yesterday evening to check zero, BLAMMM, yep, still three inches high and a rch from dead center, ready to go this season! 210gr NPT at 2800 fps will bring quick lasting relief for any intendeds ; ]

My last trip out with mine was to BC for grizzly and black bear in 2008. Using the 225 gr AB all was good. I am booked for 16 days in BC end of August for goat, elk and moose. I have set the rifle up with the 185 gr TSX which I have taken elk with previously. Expecting the hunt will move to 2021...

I played around considerably with 180gr class with a NAB, GMX, and TTSX offerings. Both of these rifles shot the 200gr bullets better. Does it have something to do with the 1:9 twist? I do not know.

I did have a Model 70 classic wood stainless featherweight with a 1:12 twist that shot the 180 NAB better than the 200gr. A good friend bought it from me because he has a weakness for wood stainless rifles.

I should try the plain 185gr TSX and see if that shoots better than the TTSX. I see Barnes makes a 285gr TSX, that might be fun to experiment with too.

I’ve had good results with the 200 NBT and the 185TTSX at 338-06 velocities. Very leaky blood trails on medium game. Hits hard.

Here the .338-06 I built about 18 years ago.



Rem 700, 22 inch Pac-Nor barrel, TI stock. Leupold 2.5X8 in DD mounts. 7.25lbs empty.

Built for elk hunting, (which it did get one), but has been mostly employed for use on a bunch of whitetails.

Great looking rifles fellas!

Is that Cerakote on the bottom rifle -- what color?

This is making me want one. I like my 338 Win mag, a 338-06 would be a fun cartridge to have!

It can do everything a 30/06 can, but at a greater cost.

Have had both, still have the 338-06. This one on an FN action. Not as fancy as some, but I don't have that much in it. Good shooter.

Bought it on the Classifieds, reworked the bedding, painted it.

DF

The 798 is a straight-up commercial 98 Mauser action. It's a good choice for anything and a better choice for cartridges that generate much recoil.


Okie John

That would work.

DF

Yes cerakote, cannot remember the color. I will check with my smith tomorrow. I think it is a new premium cerakote, straight up black I think.

Cerakote Elite Blackout

This right here!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Best choice if you can find one...I loved the Ultra Lite Weatherbys...

That said, mine is a rebored Model 70....it was a brand new unshot 270 Win, bought new for $250, after deer season, before Walmart had to pay a tax on its inventory in Montana...

I shot 3 bullet types out of it, for all my hunting.... all Hornady SPs, 200s, 225 and 250 RN....

powders used, RL 15, 4064, IMR 4895, H 380 with the 250 RN...

What would I hunt with it? Pretty much anything in the lower 48....

Bought here on the 'Fire several years back. Rebored CZ 550 that came with a McMillan along with factory wood stock. Had it cerakoted graphite black and put a VX-II 3-9x40 w/ dotz on it. 210gr Scirocco II over RE-15 is what I use.

I like that one.

What does it weigh as is?

DF

No scales so guessing 8-something?? Barrel is standard 23”

I had a boat anchor Savage 110 in laminate I bought here as a .270 & upgraded with a Brownells ER Shaw “kit” barrel. Shot lights out but weighed way too much for my taste.

I scored some 180 GR NBTs in SPS and they shot really well under RL15; took out a doe at around 200 yds which is a super long shot around here and that thick jacket was devastating. Same accuracy with Speer HCs and 200 Gr BST which I thought was a great all around for this cartridge. I always thought 210 NPT would be da bomb for moose or bear too. That 160 GR TTSX that Keith linked has to be crazy devastating in this cartridge tho!

Numbers on this cartridge are pretty impressive when compared to .338 WM and it feels substantially milder to me.

If I were to do one again I’d do something styled as above in LR98. Just seems right to me; that stock is lovely and I can’t think of anything in NA I’d not confidently pop with a 225 GR Interlock or Accubond.

I'd agree with that...

Or NPT.

DF

tag

Well, bear season is the next thing open. I only have the wimpy 338RCM and a 348 Ackley but no 338-06. Maybe i need to have a 30-06 rebored to 338-06. On occasion i hit some areas where i see grizzlies. Is that reason enough for packing something 338?

Or get some heavy Partitions for that ‘06.

Griz won’t know the difference. In fact, heavy 30 cal Partitions are at near the top of the penetration contest.

DF

Only if you want one. The RCM and 30-06 will do whatever you need.

I just picked up a match 338/06 reamer from PTG for a customer who wanted to set the throat where he wanted it vs. having the deep throats on some of those stock reamers.

Saddlesore had always commented that 200+ grain bullets from an 06 or 300 mag just seemed to anchor elk a heck of a lot faster than 180’s, and the guy has shot well over 40 elk.. probably over 50 or more so I’ve always thought about 338/06 but never built one for myself yet. I’ve had a couple there 358 win’s, and a 338 federal but they ran just a tad slow for what I wanted, but performed really well non the less.

Anyway, I’ll be building one on an 06 action pretty soon.. I like them more than the 35 Whelen due to the shoulder being a bit more there with the 338, and a bit more velocity as well, it should preform really well.

Spot

Where did you get the impression this was about “reason”?

338 RCM is a 338-06 capacity-wise.

Of course I’d you’re looking to rationalize a build you won’t hear arguments from me...

The only thing I don’t care for with WSM & SAUM’s is that longer bullets intrude ALOT into the body because they are seated so far down.

The Bench guys are using them in bench rifles but they are single shots and the bullets are seat much further out than you can in a normal repeating action.

Me either. REASON is almost as bad as NEED....

NEED is a nasty, four letter word, has NO place in a Loony asylum like the Campfire...

We see it used around here, WAY too much...

REASON, too....

DF

NEED, NEED,NEED,NEED,NEED,NEED,NEEN,NEEN,NEED. With a few REASONS thrown in there. Im a potty mouth.

Ha!

DF