Do you guys clean more often the bore when using Barnes TTSX than you would a traditional cup and core bullet? I typically use Boretech Eliminator to remove the copper. How often would you clean if using a steady diet of these?
I shoot TTSX bullets almost exclusively. I clean My barrels with Wipe-out after every shooting session regardless of the particular bullet I shoot, I just can't put a dirty rifle back in my safe but I am very particular with My stuff and always take meticulous care of anything I own right down to My pocket knife and even My push mower... I know a dude who is a slob. he never washes his truck, he only mows his grass once a month and never cleans his rifle barrel's or even as much as wipes down the outside, his rusty rifle's look like chit but still shoot fine.....Good luck ....Hb
I wait until accuracy drops off and shoot Tikkas. So, like not very often.
I do wash my truck and cut my grass though!
What is this rifle cleaning that you speak of? LOL.
I've used a variety of jacketed bullets, including TSXs and TTSXs. Copper fouling is copper fouling; I can't see any difference in cleaning effort or copper buildup regardless of bullet.
I've used a variety of jacketed bullets, including TSXs and TTSXs. Copper fouling is copper fouling; I can't see any difference in cleaning effort or copper buildup regardless of bullet.
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The old Barnes X had a reputation for copper fouling.
The TSX and TTSX solved that by having less bearing surface and-I think- a slightly different alloy.
I don’t shoot my hunting rifle a lot! It gets the bore cleaned every 2 or 3 years whether it needs it or not. 😱 Honestly, I’ve not seen an accuracy deterioration, I just start feeling guilty! 🤭 memtb
I was more worried about buildup that could cause pressure issues? Guess I will continue as I have been. Can I switch between Barnes and cup and core without any issues or will I need to clean before switching? Sorry limited experience with Barnes, but now have to use them since I cannot find cup and core at moment.
The old TBBC and Swift bullets seem prone to more fouling than current TTSX due to their copper jackets and long bearing surface. But I don’t have a way to measure that. I use Bore Tech Eliminator often and J-B and Kroil for the tough jobs. Happy Trails
Thanks for the help guys!
I was more worried about buildup that could cause pressure issues? Guess I will continue as I have been. Can I switch between Barnes and cup and core without any issues or will I need to clean before switching? Sorry limited experience with Barnes, but now have to use them since I cannot find cup and core at moment.
Switching bullets without cleaning is often mentioned and some say it decreases accuracy. This might be true in some selected instances, but I've never seen it in any rifle.
I don’t know if still true, but with the original X Bullet it appeared to be so. Many years ago, I was told to treat the Barnes Bullets as though they were cast bullets.......thoroughly clean the bore of jacketed bullet residual.
About 10 years ago, my wife failed to connect on an elk ( a somewhat hurried shot on a moving at about 250 to 300 yrds). However, she felt pretty good about the shot. We decided to check the zero, and found that the groups @ 100 were easily double ( maybe 3x) the normal. I then remembered that we had friends over to the house, and we burned-up about 15 rounds of factory ammo that we were given! I gave the bore a good cleaning, groups returned back to normal. It may not have been a perfect shot anyway.....but have really poor groups didn’t help any!
Addendum: It was a pretty darn nice bull.....my wife was not happy with me! memtb
Hopefully she will forget memtb? That is odd how cup and core effected accuracy.
This was just our finding......with “her” rifle! I heard many times over the years, that bullets of different metallurgy though similar......may adversely affect the group potential! Maybe an old wives-tail....but, it must have had it’s genesis somewhere!
Possibly forgiven.....not forgotten!
memtb
Do you guys clean more often the bore when using Barnes TTSX than you would a traditional cup and core bullet? I typically use Boretech Eliminator to remove the copper. How often would you clean if using a steady diet of these?
One of the true tests of copper fouling is the 243W. As noted the X-Bullets copper fouled like a mutha in every rifle I shot them in. The TSX/TSSX's/E-Tips don't foul as much but they foul more than conventional bullets. Where I can really tell the difference is with my 243's.
How often a bbl needs cleaned is up to the bbl and can vary quite a bit.
Do you guys clean more often the bore when using Barnes TTSX than you would a traditional cup and core bullet? I typically use Boretech Eliminator to remove the copper. How often would you clean if using a steady diet of these?
One of the true tests of copper fouling is the 243W. As noted the X-Bullets copper fouled like a mutha in every rifle I shot them in. The TSX/TSSX's/E-Tips don't foul as much but they foul more than conventional bullets. Where I can really tell the difference is with my 243's.
How often a bbl needs cleaned is up to the bbl and can vary quite a bit.
I agree. if you have a nice slick barrel.....the fouling is substantially less! I had a friend that was getting terrible fouling and groups with the old, original X- Bullet, in his 25-06. I convinced him to polish the bore. After considerable “elbow grease”.....his fouling was reduced and his groups improved considerably! memtb