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Posted By: Dinny Wilson NULAs - 04/16/23
I got to fondle..err..handle a few at the NRA Convention today. They're still in the final production stage but they're aiming for a $2900 price tag. They aren't bedding the entire barrel channel like Melvin did.
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Wilson NULAs - 04/16/23
Have they changed the stock any? I'd like to see it slimmed up a bit and with a grip more like a Brown. A lightly fluted bolt would be nice too. Be nice to the Fieldcraft back in production while I'm complaining. grin
Posted By: Dinny Re: Wilson NULAs - 04/17/23
The stock didn't feel nearly as slim as the Kimber Montana or Mountain Ascent stocks. It seemed fairly wide in the forend area.

I did ask the crew at Barrett about the Fieldcraft. They hope to have it available to consumers within 2 years. When I asked if they or someone else would be making it they replied with a YES and a shrug of the shoulders.
Posted By: Denver257 Re: Wilson NULAs - 04/17/23
Interesting to hear this. I don’t know if $1300 cheaper is exciting or concerning.
Posted By: Denver257 Re: Wilson NULAs - 04/19/23
I called Wilson today, the guy in customer service said they we’re finalizing a few changes, I asked what the changes we’re and he said he wasn’t sure, I asked what the price would be and he said they are telling people $4000 but it’s going to be well below that, said they are trying to see how they can streamline production to get cost down and then come up with the exact number. He said you will be limited to 284, 243, 7mm-08 and 308 in a standard model 20 for a while, you wouldn’t be able to just order anything you wanted and get it made like it has been. Also said they are hoping to get started late summer and be shipping before hunting season. I had them put me on the the list for to call back when they can take an official order for a 284. Depending on final price and what the changes are will depend on if I go through with that or not, but I’m in line for now.
Posted By: Alessio Re: Wilson NULAs - 04/26/23
Originally Posted by Denver257
Interesting to hear this. I don’t know if $1300 cheaper is exciting or concerning.

+1
Posted By: Mtdogdreams Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
I’d wait for a fieldcraft and count myself lucky to have a NULA, btw IMO you are better off with a full CLR conversion than a Wilson
Posted By: EdM Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
Originally Posted by Mtdogdreams
I’d wait for a fieldcraft and count myself lucky to have a NULA, btw IMO you are better off with a full CLR conversion than a Wilson

Interesting opinion without a Wilson even being built?
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by Mtdogdreams
I’d wait for a fieldcraft and count myself lucky to have a NULA, btw IMO you are better off with a full CLR conversion than a Wilson

Interesting opinion without a Wilson even being built?

Bird in the hand....
Posted By: Rossimp Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
Apparently for some Wilson Combat doesn’t know how to build a quality firearm…laughing. Handguns altered and tuned by Bill are explicitly used by Delta Force and Navy Seals. Wilson AR-10 and AR-15 are some of the finest ARs made. Wow those turn bolt repeaters are tough to make when compared to all the other firearms Wilson Combat manufactures. They already have the blueprint from Melvin, they’re going to refine it more and reduce cost to sell thousands of more units over Melvin’s cottage firearm industry. That’s what Colt wanted to do until their financial picture changed. The CLR was selling at around $700/rifle. That’s 5 times less than Melvin was selling his then ULA and soon to be NULA. So a CLR is considered a more treasured product than a perhaps $2K Wilson Combat NULA. Sure thing. Bill Wilson is a master when it comes to improvements and refinements that make a firearm better than the competition. Let’s wait and see what they turn out before condemning an industry leader who is trying to keep the NULA rifle in production at a price point that will perhaps turn heads and sales.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
Originally Posted by Rossimp
Apparently for some Wilson Combat doesn’t know how to build a quality firearm…laughing. Handguns altered and tuned by Bill are explicitly used by Delta Force and Navy Seals. Wilson AR-10 and AR-15 are some of the finest ARs made. Wow those turn bolt repeaters are tough to make when compared to all the other firearms Wilson Combat manufactures. They already have the blueprint from Melvin, they’re going to refine it more and reduce cost to sell thousands of more units over Melvin’s cottage firearm industry. That’s what Colt wanted to do until their financial picture changed. The CLR was selling at around $700/rifle. That’s 5 times less than Melvin was selling his then ULA and soon to be NULA. So a CLR is considered a more treasured product than a perhaps $2K Wilson Combat NULA. Sure thing. Bill Wilson is a master when it comes to improvements and refinements that make a firearm better than the competition. Let’s wait and see what they turn out before condemning an industry leader who is trying to keep the NULA rifle in production at a price point that will perhaps turn heads and sales.

Obviously you have a hard on for Wilson’s products but you’re correct about let’s wait and see.

As to the colt and the price. It was a NULA action only with a perfectly fine barrel. A NULA would have had a high quality stock bedded to the barreled action and a Timney trigger. So you’re not comparing apples to apples.

As to melvins cottage comment. I’m out of touch with what his prices were in the last days and don’t have a clue what Wilson’s rifles will be when it’s all said and done. That said when you ordered from the cottage you could choose almost any chambering you could want with any twist length and contour barrel. Not to mention stock length and the colors are probably important to some. So Wilson’s NULA will have to considerably less to be a success I would assume.

Im sure it’s a great rifle as you said a bolt action isn’t rocket science but by golly manufacturers sure seem to go out of their way to always screw up one thing or another. I do hope the new NULA is the best one yet though.
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
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Bird in the hand....

Originally Posted by Kaleb
...I do hope the new NULA is the best one yet though. ...

I'm hoping he makes a GREAT product as well. As others mentioned, it's proven his shop can do that with other firearms and it shouldn't be a more technical thing to do with a bolt action on a proven design/platform/blueprint.

That said, at this point, a CLR that's been through Melvin's shop or through the guys who've taken over Mr. Forbe's shop to rebarrel/stock the CLR's, is without a doubt a better rifle than a Wilson. This is simply because it can be obtained.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
Ronnie did it best,due the S/S receiver and (5) 8x40's. Hint............
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/07/23
I totally agree J and Stick even though I’ve not seen much less used one of Barrett’s. Maybe the new fella with Barrett will get them back into production in a couple of years.

At this point when I want or need something like this I will send a montana with a lilja dupe west and have what I want.

I might add the more I shoot the mini 6ARC the more I like it. For what it is and sub $1,500 I don’t know what beats it in that weight class.
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/08/23
Yes, the stainless and 5 holes was a very nice upgrade. Everything twisted right from the start. I wish I'd have picked up a few of them when prices were low to use as donor's. It's tough to beat the weight, size/footprint, material, bolt lift angle, and mag box they offer. chris84's mounts were the final piece to make it. If the new owners of Barrett really wanted to go one up on anything available, making the action with an integrated recoil lug, guaranteed headspace, and making it available as an action alone would be something.

After putting together a lw 7-08 on an anTi and working around bolt handle and mount issues, I wish I'd just rebarreled a Fieldcraft.

I like the Montana's, but a 3" mag box would be really nice, especially for 7-08's.

For sure on the ARC. I've really been enjoying it the last month. Sweet little round and the mini's, especially with Chris's bottom metal, are a slim trim package. Even with the extra $ for the bottom metal and a Stocky's second, it's a hair shy of $1000. Wish it was stainless but it's still hard to beat for the $.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/08/23
Yup, one of the few really smart firearms purchases I’ve made was snagging a FC relatively early, even though it was a financial stretch at the time. Oakland Guns made it happen with their handy layaway plan.

Now I could just buy one, or more, if any were to be had, but realistically at my age, one is plenty. I do find myself “needing” more shotguns than ever before for some reason, and handguns seem to appear almost out of nowhere…….
Posted By: TheLastLemming76 Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Yup, one of the few really smart firearms purchases I’ve made was snagging a FC relatively early, even though it was a financial stretch at the time. Oakland Guns made it happen with their handy layaway plan.

Now I could just buy one, or more, if any were to be had, but realistically at my age, one is plenty. I do find myself “needing” more shotguns than ever before for some reason, and handguns seem to appear almost out of nowhere…….
I’ve bought quite a few guns through Oakland Guns also. They’re one of my favorite online retailers. Between the 10 month no fees layaway and always being first rate with emailed invoices when payments are made, reasonable prices and just good easy people to buy from.
Posted By: hardway Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
I just hope they don't start leaning to the tacti-cool side to raise sales.... Melvin's rifles were popular because of what they were/are. If they (Wilson) adds a heavier barrel or some gaudy detachable mag it will kill it for me.... rifles like that are already available.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Yup, one of the few really smart firearms purchases I’ve made was snagging a FC relatively early, even though it was a financial stretch at the time. Oakland Guns made it happen with their handy layaway plan.

Now I could just buy one, or more, if any were to be had, but realistically at my age, one is plenty. I do find myself “needing” more shotguns than ever before for some reason, and handguns seem to appear almost out of nowhere…….
I’ve bought quite a few guns through Oakland Guns also. They’re one of my favorite online retailers. Between the 10 month no fees layaway and always being first rate with emailed invoices when payments are made, reasonable prices and just good easy people to buy from.

Even now, with money not generally an issue, the layaway has allowed me to secure stuff I want, but might not be quite ready for because I’m otherwise engaged. They seem to have hard to find stuff available (at their jobber mostly) more than most, case in point being my M70 EW that was pretty much unobtanium elswhere.

Ron and Cici are nice folks too. Always enjoy talking with them.
Posted By: horse1 Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
I've never owned nor closely looked at anything from Wilson but I've been somewhat vaguely aware of them for quite a while. Seems like they've been able to walk and chew gum @ the same time. Meaning they've got a suite of production firearms AND a custom shop that seem to do find running concurrently.

Seems like some folks are getting the vapors over something that hasn't even come close to happening yet.
Posted By: SKane Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
Originally Posted by horse1
Seems like some folks are getting the vapors over something that hasn't even come close to happening yet.

grin grin
Posted By: kk alaska Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
I bought a LH Forbes in 06 and sent it to Melvin who rebarreled it in 280 AI very nice LH rifle!
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/09/23
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by horse1
Seems like some folks are getting the vapors over something that hasn't even come close to happening yet.

grin grin

I'm hopeful they'll restart things, give it a little gas, and clear the vapor lock so it come close to happening.
Posted By: RHClark Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/11/23
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Yup, one of the few really smart firearms purchases I’ve made was snagging a FC relatively early, even though it was a financial stretch at the time. Oakland Guns made it happen with their handy layaway plan.

Now I could just buy one, or more, if any were to be had, but realistically at my age, one is plenty. I do find myself “needing” more shotguns than ever before for some reason, and handguns seem to appear almost out of nowhere…….

I got even luckier. I stumbled on one of the first handful of Forbes rifles built by Melvin at Forbes while teaching them how they needed to be made. I called Melvin and that's what he told me according to my serial number. Mine has Melvin's stock, not the one Forbes put in their last rifles. Mine also has the locking bolt safety and shoots 1/2 moa groups quite regularly with factory ammo.

I would have bought a Fieldcraft back when, but I owned the Forbes and I do like a safety that locks the bolt.
Posted By: pathfinder76 Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/11/23
Maybe a fourth times a charm.
Posted By: EdM Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/12/23
I handled a couple of the FC rifles and they did nothing for me that my 270 Montana has already done and my 30-06 Subalpine has done since buying it a couple of summers ago NIB in north Idaho. The trends of the 'fire though move on...
Posted By: jeeper Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/12/23
I hardly use my Forbes that Melvin turned into a 284 Win. I say I'm going to hunt with it every year but it has only been hunted with a few times in the 10 years or so I've had it.
Posted By: BigGrz Re: Wilson NULAs - 05/15/23
I’m eager to see what they do too. I’ve been looking for CLRs to send in to get NULA’d to go along with my Model 20 that arrived last October.
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