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Posted By: Steelhead Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Almost picked one up, black forend tip, chambered for 6mm Remington with a 4x Leupold on top, $500. Worth it?
Posted By: VAnimrod Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
$150-200 scope...

Yeah, the action alone is worth the $300-350.

6mm Remington could have it twisted either 1-12" or 1-9", depending upon when it was built.

Doubt it'd stay 6mm Rem, but just sayin'.
Posted By: nsaqam Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Yep
Posted By: himmelrr Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
YES!
Posted By: pa_gus Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
sounds like someone threw a new stock on it. but ya definetly worth it. I'm biased though love the 6mm 600
Posted By: ingwe Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Yep...good gun, but whatcha gonna do with it? Its a bit more of a PITA to modify than a 700.....
Posted By: Swampman1 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
I wish I'd bought a few when I could still afford them.
Posted By: gunnut308 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Yessir......I'd snatch it up. Neat little rifles
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by pa_gus
sounds like someone threw a new stock on it. but ya definetly worth it. I'm biased though love the 6mm 600



Nope, looks like this

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Posted By: pa_gus Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
I stand corrected. thats definatly a factory stock. The 2 I have don't have the foreend/gripcap on them. Any experts know when they did that? A little latter in the production run? Or was it an adl/bdl thing?
Posted By: himmelrr Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
That looks all original. You can D&T a second hole on the rear bridge to make Talley LWs for a Rem 7 to fit nicely - lows will work just fine. Another thing is to buy an aluminum TG from CVMW here on the campfire. Numrich sells a walnut replacement stock too.

I love 600/660s!

RH
Posted By: MagMarc Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by pa_gus
sounds like someone threw a new stock on it. but ya definetly worth it. I'm biased though love the 6mm 600



Nope, looks like this

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Nice snag
Posted By: KDK Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by VAnimrod

6mm Remington could have it twisted either 1-12" or 1-9", depending upon when it was built.



Sean, weren't all the 1-12" twisted guns marked ".244 Remington"?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
I didn't snag it, just thought about it.
Posted By: MagMarc Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I didn't snag it, just thought about it.

You should snag it wink
Posted By: Taconic11 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
I just picked one up from a Friend in 308 for $400. It was a very good deal. Hard to find one in any reasonable shape for under $500. Bought one new in '71 for $95 marked down from $124. Wish that I had never of sold it. They shot extremely well. Very strong action, fully floated to the recoil lug. IMO - an improvement over the 600. The downside are these - Some don't like the dogleg bolt and square forearm. The nylon bottom usually warps. Just need to find a 6mm rem. to match. Looks like a very good deal.
Posted By: rembo Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by KDK
Originally Posted by VAnimrod

6mm Remington could have it twisted either 1-12" or 1-9", depending upon when it was built.



Sean, weren't all the 1-12" twisted guns marked ".244 Remington"?


The 600/660 came along long after Rem changed the twist rate...twist rate was changed from 12" to 9-1/4" when the 700 was intro'd in '62 and the name was changed to 6mm from 244, although there are reports of some 700's leaving the factory with 12" twist barrels...probably pulled from the 722 barrel pile.

I had one of those 660's with the nicer stock, was a 308 that someone had chopped to 18"...put a 22" 700 barrel in 6mm into it...shoulda kept that one.
Posted By: Taconic11 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
PA GUS - Never saw a 660 that didn't look like the one pictured. But that doesn't mean that Rem. didn't throw some out with a older 600 stock on them,just to get rid of inventory. The 600 Mohawk came after the 660, and they had a stock without the plastic tip and some had birch stocks.
Posted By: pa_gus Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
ya... i read to fast, and thought it was a 600. After my second cup of coffee, and fetching my glasses, I see the error of my ways. Sucks getting old doesn't it? blush
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Beats hell out of the alternative.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Actually, Remington changed the ROT on the 244 from 1-12" to 1-10" in the 722s and 725s in 1958/59, well before they were superceeded by the 700 series. All 6MMs were cut 1-9" ROT.

I have a 725 in 244 that is cut 1-10" and a couple of loose late 722 or 725 244 barrels that are cut 1-10" ROT. It is a pretty safe bet that a 722 with a 24" sporter contour barrel and no barrel boss for the rear sight dovetail was cut 1-10" ROT.

JEff
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
If you're going to use it in its current specs, you might consider buying the alloy bottom metal sold by CVMW. The plastic/nylon trigger guard assemblies are probably the worst part of the whole 600/660/600Mohawk design.

The point of contact is Willie Manning at 541-396-6246.

Coquille Valley Machine Works
54511 Arago-Fishtrap Road
Myrtle Point, Oregon 97458

JEff
Posted By: Magnum_Man Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Be a pretty fair buy around here as they usually bring $500 plus with a cheapy or no scope. Especially so in the 6mm Remington. Magnum Man
Posted By: CLB Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Hard to find a clean one in any cartridge for $500. I the fact that the 660's don't have that stupid rib...
Posted By: Blacktail53 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
That funky bolt handle was designed to eliminate it's barking your knuckles when fired.... Works pretty well from what I'm told.

I wish I'd bought one in .350RM years ago when I had the chance.
They're handy, well fitting rigs and highly sought after for timber cruising for elk and such.

If it were mine, I doubt it would stay a 6mm. Probably do a rebore to 6.5 or 7 and never look back....
Posted By: muledeer Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
6.5x57... grin?

Dennis
Posted By: rem141r Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
keep it stock. if you want another caliber buy it. its a shame to chop those 600's and 660's up unless the wood/metal/etc are trashed. good, original samples are getting hard to find. $500 with a leupold scope is a steal.
Posted By: Dancing Bear Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Yes.
Posted By: Jericho Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
I saw a 350RM at a gunshow a couple of weeks ago, I think
the price was 1200. It had the laminated stock. Also saw
several Remington M673s for sale, but they dont seem to
get much attention.
Posted By: kaboku68 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
I have two 660s like the one pictured.

One in 308 and the other in 243.
The 243 is especially nice and I gave it to my wife as a wedding present.

I also have a 660 mohawk 243 which has a walnut stock but its finished differently and has a barrel that is one inch longer.
I believe that I paid 450 with a old style 6X Weaver and a two boxes of shells.

They are great little woods rifles. They are also good little sheep or village guns. It is funny that Jack O'Connor probably hit them with a kill switch but they were liked by Jeff Cooper and Charley Boots Askins.

They may not be as modular as a 700 but they do that some interesting characteristics that make them worth scutiny. The action is modelled after the XR100 pistol action.

They are hooked up pretty well. 70s might have been the highmark for the quality of Remington hookup and that might tick off swampy but there you are. Big Green has lost a step in the 1980s. When people doubt this I just say either 710 or ask them to take one of those modern sps in a RUM and ask them to check out the play in the bolt and the action.

One thing that I believe that people have overlooked is that while the 600s and 660s might have a bit of a dangerous saftey they are a very light and stable action that really is like a boss when it is modified.

Butch Lambert has one. He should post it.

Sincerely,
Thomas
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
The Remington 600 family of rifles:

600; walnut stock, 18.5" barrel with vent rib and open sights. 222, 223, 243, 6mm, 6.5mm Rem Mag, 308, 35, 350 Rem Mag. The 223 and 6mm Montana were limited editions, very uncommon.

Succeeded by:

660; walnut stock with black forearm tip, 20" barrel with open sights. 222, 243, 6mm, 6.5mm Rem Mag, 308, and 350 Rem Mag.

Succeeded by:

600 Mohawk; birch stock, 18.5" barrel with open sights. 222, 243, 6mm, and 308. The barrel contour on the 600 Mohawk is heavier than the early 600. 600 Mohawks were a non-cataloged rifle that was only sold new through high volume retailers like K-Mart and J.C. Penney.

There may be some end of the run 600 Mohawks that were made with leftover 600 stock and 660 stocks and barrels. I have heard of them, but have never personally seen any.

JEff
Posted By: model70man Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Jeff, I have a .222 Mohawk with a walnut stock. Thanks...Bill.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
slight correction: the 600 magnum had a laminated beech/walnut stock and chambered in 350 and 6.5 rem mags with factory rem rubber pad. although there are a very few first year guns that were stocked in just walnut with the hard plastic butt pad. i've had a 350 for several years and love it. kicks like a mule though and will swell your cheek if not held right. but it is one heck of an accurate gun.
Posted By: BlackDog1 Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
If you're going to use it in its current specs, you might consider buying the alloy bottom metal sold by CVMW. The plastic/nylon trigger guard assemblies are probably the worst part of the whole 600/660/600Mohawk design.

The point of contact is Willie Manning at 541-396-6246.

Coquille Valley Machine Works
54511 Arago-Fishtrap Road
Myrtle Point, Oregon 97458

JEff


Great point! I inherited a mint 660 in 6.5 RM some years ago. The plastic floorplate was developing a slight bit of a perch belly after years of pressure against it from the magazine spring. I relaced it with the alloy floorplate and put the original on the shelf in the safe. IIRC the part was around $100 then.
I had the recall trigger/safety work done also as the 660's are still covered under the recall. I think the alloy floorplate dresses up the rifle a bit too.
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Remington 660 - 02/13/11
Originally Posted by rembo

The 600/660 came along long after Rem changed the twist rate...twist rate was changed from 12" to 9-1/4" when the 700 was intro'd in '62 and the name was changed to 6mm from 244, although there are reports of some 700's leaving the factory with 12" twist barrels...probably pulled from the 722 barrel pile.



You're right, the twist was changed with the intro of the M700, but (I think) the name didn't change to 6mm Rem until 1964?.......



Casey
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Actually, Remington changed the ROT on the 244 from 1-12" to 1-10" in the 722s and 725s in 1958/59, well before they were superceeded by the 700 series. All 6MMs were cut 1-9" ROT.


Then I stand corrected.


Originally Posted by 260Remguy

I have a 725 in 244 that is cut 1-10" and a couple of loose late 722 or 725 244 barrels that are cut 1-10" ROT. It is a pretty safe bet that a 722 with a 24" sporter contour barrel and no barrel boss for the rear sight dovetail was cut 1-10" ROT.

JEff


I thought the 721/722's changed to 22 inch barrels in 1958?

I have a 1958 vintage 721 with the factory front sight in the correct spot with a 22 inch bbl. I'm pretty sure it's never been cut down?


Casey
Posted By: toad Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
Originally Posted by kaboku68


...The action is modelled after the XR100 pistol action.

They are hooked up pretty well. 70s might have been the highmark for the quality of Remington hookup and that might tick off swampy but there you are. Big Green has lost a step in the 1980s. When people doubt this I just say either 710 or ask them to take one of those modern sps in a RUM and ask them to check out the play in the bolt and the action.

Sincerely,
Thomas


IIRC, the 600/660 came before the XP100...

and i have both M600 (.350 RM)and SPS RUM (.375 RUM), and the SPS has no more bolt slop than the 600. sorry, but reality.

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Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
The 1-12" ROT 722 244 barrels were 26" with a heavier, light magnum, contour and didn't have a barrel boss for the rear sight dovetail.

I'd want to see documentation of a 700 in 244 before I'd believe that it wasn't a parts gun. I have 2 loose 725 244 barrels that are 24", have the factory open sights installed, and are cut with 1-10" ROT.

I also have an early 700 ADL with the 6mm REM MAG roll stamp with the "MAG" X'd out, #579xx.

JEff
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The 1-12" ROT 722 244 barrels were 26" with a heavier, light magnum, contour and didn't have a barrel boss for the rear sight dovetail.

I'd want to see documentation of a 700 in 244 before I'd believe that it wasn't a parts gun. I have 2 loose 725 244 barrels that are 24", have the factory open sights installed, and are cut with 1-10" ROT.

I also have an early 700 ADL with the 6mm REM MAG roll stamp with the "MAG" X'd out, #579xx.

JEff



Cool, I didn't know that info.

Somewhere I have a 1961 and 63 Remington catalogs, I'm going to have to try and dig them up and see what Remington was calling the cartridge back then.


Casey
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11


My 1958 M721 doesn't have the barrel boss either, but my 1951 and 1952 M721's w/ 24 inch barrels do.

I thought the barrel boss was eliminated with the advent of the 22 inch bbl?



Casey
Posted By: Taconic11 Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
Bottom line with all of this is this - The 660 is a really nice litle rifle. Can even fit in with todays standards. The worst part of them was not the nylon bottom that warped, but was that terrible pressed depressed checkering that can sometimes look like 2 Fat Ladies from the Mohawk Valley helped the press out while haveing a coffe break.
Posted By: 7 STW Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
I have the same dogleg 660 action sitting on the shelf.Was offered 300 bucks acouple of years back.It still sits on the shelf.
Posted By: Blacktail53 Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
Originally Posted by muledeer
6.5x57... grin?

Dennis


ZACKLY!! smile
Posted By: scoutman Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
The 660 has a longer and heavier barrel than the 600. Mine comes in at 7 lbs 3 oz. with scope.

I believe that the 600 had a lighter and shorter barrel. I think that it came in less than 6 lbs sans scope.

I think Remington increase the weight and length on the barrel of the 660 because of recoil complaints on the lighter 600 esp in .308.
Posted By: John_G Re: Remington 660 - 02/14/11
I have a 660 in 308 - stock except for recoil pad.

What a great little gun: accurate with just about anything you can feed it, light weight, and that dogleg bolt fits nicely in a scabbard. My youngest son took his first moose with it when he was 11 years old. I don't use it much, but I'm not likely to part with it, either.
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