Stopped by my local shop late this afternoon and he had a 1954 Win Mod70 in 220 Swift. Metal is excellent but a matte finish. Lettering is sharp so it appears to be original. I'm not up on Pre-64s so looking for info. Were they all gloss blue or is the matte finish factory? All sights are there including front hood. Only mark in the metal is on the top of the barrel where it appears it may have spent time in a gun rack, it's a very light mark though. The bottom metal and trigger guard do have some scratches. The wood is excellent, not perfect but extremely good for a 59 year old gun. Comes with a 10x El Paso Weaver in the rollover type Weaver rings so the iron sights can be used. The scope does have a crack in the objective lens on one side but I couldn't see it looking through the scope.
The shop was closing so I didn't have time to get pics but I tried to describe it accurately. Estimate on value?
Values are in the $1000 to $1500 value. The reciever bluing is different than the bluing on the barrel and floorplate as it left the factory. It is hard to describe the bluing other than it is not high gloss but a medium color and gloss. The reciever is a low luster bead blast type of coloring.
Tatelaw: Th metal on the receiver was always a matte finish;the barrels on the Swifts were SS but plated with something so they could be blued and were a matte finish from the factory....264 Win Mag tubes were the same on some rifles,although others were CM....not sure on the Swifts although a buddy had a blued CM varmint contour on a Swift.
Do you have access to a bore scope to check the throat?
I assume you ran the numbers to determine date of manufacture.
What price was on the rifle? A really clean Swift can approach a couple of grand,maybe more.
$800
The shop is selling it on consignment. The man who owns it got it from his uncle who used it for deer hunting when he got older and no longer wanted to deal with recoil.
I've always wanted a Pre 64 and I think this one may be it.
Be the first to the shop in the morning and buy that thing ASAP. You won't find another one for anywhere near that price in any condition.
Did I mention, it's a steal?
Bob
I kinda thought that. I told him I'd be back for it in the morning. Just wanted to check with you guys first to make sure it was as good of a deal as I thought it was.
I'll post pics when I get it home.
Sounds like a darn good price. Saw a pre 64 220 at cabelas awhile back for 1500, but then again they seem to price themselves around $400 high
$800
The shop is selling it on consignment. The man who owns it got it from his uncle how used it for deer hunting when he got older and no longer wanted to deal with recoil.
I've always wanted a Pre 64 and I think this one may be it.
Oh chit, I just fainted......
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Make some room BSA... I just fainted too
That's a darn good deal on a pre-64 220 Swift. I probably see 10 '06's and .270's for every pre-64 220 Swift I see.
That's a good price. If you don't like it, you can easily get your money back and then some. If it was only used for deer hunting and the bore was cleaned and oiled after deer season each year, it should be a dandy shooter.
Wow that's a smoking deal, id snatch it up ASAP. Id say the rifles probably in the $2,000-$2,500 range from similar ones ive seen for sale. The 220 swift is one of the harder to find pre 64's so you should feel pretty lucky!
Wow! That is a terrific rifle for $800!
TATELAW.
I hope the pics were taken from inside your home. If you don't want it, I'll take it.
It is definitely worth $800.00.
donsm70
Oh man, you could probably double or tripple your money on that one...
After looking more closely at it today, I believe it is a cleaner gun than I originally thought. The only rough spots in the wood are along the top edges of the barrel channel and I wonder if it came that way from the factory? I can't see how those marks could have gotten there with there being some marks on the barrel or elsewhere on the rifle.
I'd bet those marks got there when someone tried to take the barreled action out of the stock without removing the front-sight tension screw; or, perhaps more likely, when someone tried to drift the rear sight out and missed with whatever hammer or punch they were using.
I bought its twin a couple months back, made in 41, paid $1200 but no scope. The swift will shoot.
It's hard to tell it from the photos but all of the rough places match the grain of the wood. They also carry across evenly on both sides of the barrel. It almost looks like the top edge along both sides of the barrel didn't get sanded down as smoothly as the rest of the stock.
Another question. I know it's hard to judge from pics, but what would you guys give this gun as far as BB % ? I don't know how to judge the difference in the 75-90% range on older guns.
The bad part a out this deal is I've been looking at this gun for about a week and a half and didn't realize it was such as deal. I guess my ignorance really shot me in the foot on this one. Good snag there roger. After giving this thing a good looking over today it is a lot cleaner and nicer gun than I thought. At least when he gets dies and bullets I will be able to shoot it
BOUGHT SOME DIES, BRASS, AND LOADED ROUNDS A MINUTE AGO, GUESS WE CAN TRY HER OUT NOW
BOUGHT SOME DIES, BRASS, AND LOADED ROUNDS A MINUTE AGO, GUESS WE CAN TRY HER OUT NOW
Cool, keep us posted. What bullets are you going to try out?
What a find!!!! Congratulations!
IT IS ROGER'S GUN BUT THE LOADED ROUNDS ARE 50GR REM. PROLLY PLAY WITH THEM AND THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT HE WILL LOAD. GONNA HAVE 100 PC NEW BRASS TO PLAY WITH THO.
DIDNT MEAN TO HIGH JACK YOUR THREAD ROGER, YOULL JUST HAVE TO GET UP EARLIER
I think it's cool that you are this excited for your buddy. You guys will have some fun with this one....I'm curious as to how it's going to shoot as well...Hopefully it won't need bedding and you can keep it as original as possible, sans the scope of course...Are you guys going to put a newer scope on it?
I DONT KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO, NORMALLY HE RUNS SOME NICE GLASS. THINK HE HAD A BLACK DIAMOND HE MITE STICK ON IT
I've got several 55gr to try out, both varmint and hunting. Got some 60gr NPT. Also have some Sierras in 40-50gr range. Got plenty of stuff to play with.
As for glass, I have a thread over in the optics forum about repair options on the Weaver. I have an older Redfield Wideview for sale in the classifieds that I may pull off the market since it would probably look cool on this setup. I want to go with something with a relatively small objective so I can use the flip over rings that are on it. I'd like to keep the iron sight option.
TATELAW,
It looks like you got a darn nice rifle at a helluva of a good price.
I was at the local gun show yesterday and saw Pre-'06 std wgt's with refinished stocks and cut w/ pads with asking prices $100 to $200 more than you paid for your Swift. A lot of them were made up from parts from one rifle and pieces from another, For instance a '55 Fwt with a stock having the plastic butt plate.... I digress.
Congrats on your Pre, give us a shooting report once you have it up and running.
BD
TATELAW,
It looks like you got a darn nice rifle at a helluva of a good price.
I was at the local gun show yesterday and saw Pre-'06 std wgt's with refinished stocks and cut w/ pads with asking prices $100 to $200 more than you paid for your Swift. A lot of them were made up from parts from one rifle and pieces from another, For instance a '55 Fwt with a stock having the plastic butt plate.... I digress.
Congrats on your Pre, give us a shooting report once you have it up and running.
BD
Bob, that's why I have a hard time with that P town gunshow. I bet the eye candy was good though. I'm not talking about the rifles either
....Thinking about heading down that way here in a bit to buy my wife some studded tires for her suburban
Looking at your Swift as well as some other unique firearms on the 'Fire makes fires up a desire to win a huge lottery. That is a cool rifle.
I wouldn't head over tonight, NWS sent out warnings today, blizzard conditions on the hill and they are saying we might have 60+ mph gusts here in the valley overnight into tomorrow..... I'd wait a day or so.....
BD