Looks like the 9.3x62 African is gone and the 375/416 Alaskan is gone and the 375/416 Ruger African Safari with awful looking muzzle brakes are in along with some models in 338 win mag & 300 win mag.

Hopefully those muzzle brakes are detachable!



http://www.ruger.com/search/group/?cat=new

Those are some of the ugliest guns I've ever seen.

Is the Ruger CEO an african american now? That's what it looks like.

They are removable and come with a muzzle cap.

probably won't look to bad with the cap on, not the "weight" one but the slim one

Looks like they're treatin' wrong handers pretty well.

I fear the #1 will soon go the way of all the other cool schit in this world.


Travis

There is a LCR in 22WMRF there too...

22-250 with a 1-10 twist too...

#1A in .222......

I thought I had heard rumors that Ruger hadn't put out a 416 African until now because they couldn't keep the stocks from cracking? Maybe this is their answer to the demand for that set up? Of course it comes with a thread protector too, so....who knows. Possibly it'll only be under warranty if shot with the brake attached.

Don't know what it is with Ruger an muzzle brakes all of a sudden.... Lot of models with those abominations on them...

I suspect the new laminated stock would hold up to recoil better than the African stock.

Really?....... Here's a lam off a 204........

Well, there goes my theory.

Dang! That .204 isn't a big kicker either. I'd hate to have been shootin that in .416 or .375 when it let go!

The .204 is known to be a vicious kicker...

6.5-284 in a #1 sounds pretty good to me

Oops, I was thinking Ruger had come out with a Laminated stock 416 Ruger. I was wrong. Hope they can keep the stocks together on the new African.

A Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor will end up in my safe by year's end. I love the caliber and the matte stainless barrel and Green Mountain Laminate look fantastic.

Here is a word for word email exchange I had with the "letter to the CEO". Directly copied and pasted from my email. His direct email is also included. Long read but entertaining to say the least. Pretty much speaks for itself:

Here is my letter sent today, and his reply:


I am writing regarding new products in your catalog. First of all, as a left handed shooter, left handed rifles are very important to me, and I look to your company when looking for something new. However, I am extremely disappointed that the only left hand rifles of a desirable configuration were released as limited runs to Davidson's without any announcement from your company, and without cataloging those same guns. These limited stainless lefty runs have all sold very well, and have all been in high demand. So, why not catalog them???? Also, I am an active member of three major internet forums, and I have seen absolutely no interest in the new models you have cataloged. Added a muzzle break to your rifles was a major mistake. This alone is keeping numerous buyers from buying your guns. I have not heard of ONE person who views the muzzle break addition as favorable or an incentive to buy the rifle. Many are saying they will never buy the guns with a muzzlebreak. Also,
> the new Guide gun looks terrible, and has become a source of internet mockery. Remove the muzzle break from it, and put a standard laminate stock on it without the adjustable pad, and call it an "Alaskan 2" or something like that. If you want to do something favorable for recoil reduction, use Kick eeze or Pachmayr decelerator pads on your guns. I changed the pad on every Ruger I buy because the stock pads are so terrible.
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Dear Mr. Cline,

The very favorable reaction to our new rifle at the various hunting shows this January, as well as the strong orders from retailers, contradicts and balances out the negative opinions you report. Certainly some people do not like muzzle brakes, but many, many others do like them. And that includes professional hunters from Africa who like the thought of their clients showing up with a lot of practice (typically unusual for large calibers). And they like the ability to swap out the brake for the weight and not lose the point of impact. And they like the adjustable length of pull (that was a specific request from PH's who more often now need to supply the guns in camp as fewer hunters want to go through the hassles of traveling with a firearm).

And for those truly in need of the former look, putting the thread cap on and swapping out the stock for a aftermarket one is quite easy.

Best regards,
Mike Fifer
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I replied:
Thank you for your reply. I guess only time and sales numbers will tell. I'm just going by what I have heard from the buyers and hunters that hunt and shoot here in the states. I have to believe that this is the majority of your buying market. Wholesale numbers are not really a bottom line that can be looked at.

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Dear Mr. Cline,



At the end of my Alaskan hunt last September, I had 3-1/2 boxes of 270 gr. 375 Ruger ammo left over. And we were next to the 400 yd wide Alsek river, which had many small icebergs floating rapidly downstream. The outfitter said it would be fun practice to try to hit the rapidly moving (and bobbing up and down) icebergs about 200 yards out. So my daughter and I used those 60+ magnum rounds in less than 30 minutes and had a great time. Neither of us could have done that without a muzzle brake on our Guide Rifles.



Best regards,

Mike Fifer

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might be good to really barrage him with emails from several members (lefty and right hand) Bricktop would probably be a good start!!!

His direct email is:
[email protected]

I could dig the guide gun in a mickey with the muzzle threads hacked off..

I think he's full of [bleep].

I just got off the telephone with an FFL friend who received for me one of those new limited-run stainless LH 77s in .223 and thought this ironic: Bill Ruger was left-handed, yet when he was still alive, SRC produced very few left-handed rifles. Now that he's gone, they're producing left-handed short actions, stainless guns, magnum guns, etc. Just at present with the dumb brake.

The last four or five years have found me using No. 1s exclusively, so a lot of good my bitching will do.

That in itself would be reason enough. They have cut the #1 offerings to about nothing

They lost me when the breech blocks were changed from carbon to stainless.

Jeez, another solution in search of a problem. This too will pass.

I'm disappointed in the new offerings. I've been a Ruger fan for years and the only new offering with ANY appeal is the 222....and I don't see me buying one of those any time soon.

I guess the times are just passing me by and I'm only 41! I've yet to hear or see anything introduced in 2013 from any manufacturer that really peaks my interest.

You would think They would use a 1 in 9 twist like their 223 instead of 1 in 10 on a 22-250 but that would be to simple I guess.

I sit here kicking a deer turd and louse it ever now and again in the snow ? 300H&H ,300rcm,338rcm,375ruger,416ruger and more. Well here I talk but I have the 300,338 plus the 416 and was up and to get the 375 alaska. Savage alaskan bush hunter hear I come!

I don't see what the big objection is to the muzzle brake. Each rifle comes with a replacement weighted end that can easily be installed in place of the muzzle brake. Or, if you don't want that, a screw on thread protector is also included. So, if you don't want to use the muzzle brake, you don't have to. Simple solution that gives you three options. Now, having said that, from what pictures I have seen of this new stock, it looks pretty darn ugly to me. Maybe durable, but I cannot say as I have not seen one in real life. Again, pictures look ugly. JMHO, YMMV.

That 6.5 Creed could be nice cut back to 22 or so and put in an Edge.

Objection is they make the lines of the rifle look like [bleep]. Even if you use the cap or weight you still have an ugly turd sticking out past the front sight. If you use the brake you better carry ear protecrion while hunting. That's really practical. But with their stupid ass stock pad with spacers I guess it fits well. Why should we be forced to modify a new gun to make it look decent when somone could chop a standard stock and add the ghetto [bleep] later if they had to have it.

I only found a 1A in 222, did they dump the rest?

I like the number 1 in 6.5 x 284

More or less. The No. 1 has become strictly a series of limited edition rifles from now until ultimate discontinuation.

Yep haven't seen many new or used on local gun racks lately.Glad I bought mine when they were affordable.

Gotta say--I'm impressed with the Ruger guy talking actual hunting, shooting, and plinking. At least he knows how to pull a trigger!

I was just thinking the same. Thread should be titled: Ruger Abortions for 2013 though....