They look like this
To be fair, I don't think those technically qualify as a thong.
Im just wondering where that loop gets attached in the back. And how.
Id best go ask a .270 shooter�.
Schit,just can't escape the "gay." Say that cause I own/shoot both a .270 and 7x57. That's according to M77 and G-12.
Yeah�that Cruise Ship for you has sailed�.
Well thank you. I was about to make some pancakes for breakfast, and now my appetite is GONE!
Major ICKKK! factor. Just...... gross x 100
Yeah,that'sssss the worse newsssss todaysssss.
Snap fingers and twirl.
Im just wondering where that loop gets attached in the back. And how.
Id best go ask a .270 shooter�.
You know they were invented in Montana, right?
Im just wondering where that loop gets attached in the back. And how.
Id best go ask a .270 shooter�.
You know they were invented in Montana, right?
The thong or the 270?
Schit,just can't escape the "gay." Say that cause I own/shoot both a .270 and 7x57. That's according to M77 and G-12.
So you're bi huh?
Im just wondering where that loop gets attached in the back. And how.
Id best go ask a .270 shooter�.
You know they were invented in Montana, right?
The thong or the 270?
The half thong
Im just wondering where that loop gets attached in the back. And how.
Let's just hope it is taped.
Schit,just can't escape the "gay." Say that cause I own/shoot both a .270 and 7x57. That's according to M77 and G-12.
So you're bi huh?
They look like two "fruit loops" to me.
Ain't no way those dude's could muster what it takes to shoot a 7X57.
lol
Man, I'm selling out and moving to 8x57-land!
500G tells me that is a sling.
Google that
https://www.google.com/search?q=bat...bm=isch&q=swimsuit+sling&spell=1And we see what is holding it up.
That is seriously phuoced up.
Actually it is quite easy to tell when someone shoots a 7x57. There's always something dead laying nearby. No yarns, confusion, disappointment, nothing like that. Just dead critters. They have even been known to just drop dead at the sight of that cartridge on the African plains.
Nothing like that happens with the .270. I know this because neighbors actually admit in public that they own such things. It seems to me a lot like going grocery shopping with a sex toy hanging around your neck. Wearing a thong.
Some things are best left unknown.
They must have bump their head.
500G tells me that is a sling.
So it's the "other Montana sling"
I get it now....
Im just wondering where that loop gets attached in the back. And how.
Id best go ask a .270 shooter�.
I am focusing on how much satisfaction there would be in helping those "boys"(???) install the aft attachment point.......
.........via:
......... a toggle harpoon
Here's where 7x57 shooters hang out when on the innanetss
Fabulous 7x57
Soooooo, what 'handle' do you use on that site?
And what does your avatar look like?
Not that theres anything wrong with that�...
Soooooo, what 'handle' do you use on that site?
And what does your avatar look like?
Not that theres anything wrong with that�...
I was going to ask you the same thing.
Now in seriousness, i never knew that site existed, however i have to wonder about it. If there are enough "gay hunters". To warrant a forum, i would venture maybe more than a few of them think alot like some of us as far ad our love for hunting and guns, and the current political schit storm, and maybe we should strive to be a bit more accepting.
Don't those guys usually wear a beret when they hunt?
They look like this
Typical Yank, can't even tell the difference between 7x57 shooters and 270 shooters.
I'm thinking sling-wearers choose the .223AI, to avoid the brutal recoil of the .270, and the 7x57 (there, I am being nice)
I hate to criticize, but those look like sissy drinks.
I wish I would have never seen this thread. I'm selling all of my rifles and keeping just my 375 H&H!!
Yeah, those 7x57 owners are a complicated lot.
I wonder what sites you surf to run across pictures like that.
I've never seen anything like it
Google images "bathing suit sling" with turn up that pic and lots more.
Those pics remind me... my brother in law looks so much like Borat, no one is supposed to mention it.
There is just something not right......
270=GAY
7x57=COOL or UBER!
Some of you 'boys' need rehab...
I'm thinking sling-wearers choose the .223AI, to avoid the brutal recoil of the .270, and the 7x57 (there, I am being nice)
This one is for you �.
There is something exactly right......
270=GAY
7x57=COOL or UBER!
You really need to watch those typos! I don't wanna hafta 'fix' more of your posts. but for this one you can thank me later
The 7x57mm cartridge is not gay.
But there are some queer cartridges out there.
Do not load these into your rifle.
7x57 explained
There is something exactly right......
270=GAY
7x57=COOL or UBER!
You really need to watch those typos! I don't wanna hafta 'fix' more of your posts. but for this one you can thank me later
Thank you....I won't let it happen again, Poob's!
Schit,think it's about time to buy either .270 or 7mm Mauser just to get back in my "rifle slut" groove.
Maybe..heaven forbid....even.....a push feed Winchester M 70...Featherweight....
Heck man, why bother with the sissy stuff, go for broke and step up to a 7x64 Brenneke.
All the cool of a 7mm and the performance of a 270 (but a really manly one).
It's still Euro trash.
Might as well go all the way up to a 9.3x64 then.
Yes, but it is old really cool Euro trash!
Heck man, why bother with the sissy stuff, go for broke and step up to a 7x64 Brenneke.
All the cool of a 7mm and the performance of a 270 (but a really manly one).
HEY! never thought of the 7x64. Mauser makes that cartridge in it's Model 12.
IF and a big IF,I do get a 7x64 will the "gay" go away?
HEY! never thought of the 7x64. Mauser makes that cartridge in it's Model 12.
IF and a big IF,I do get a 7x64 will the "gay" go away?
Mauser 12, Sauer 101. But why not just have your .270 opened up to .280? That way you're neither gay or Euro-trash. It's a win/win.
I'll bet even Ingwe would own one if it looked like this.
But it ain't a .270. It's a .358 Win.
Well,Rev that would mean I'm down to just two .270's and can't let that happen.
Sako and Blaser also make a 7x64.
Something to think about. Not making any promises,because by tomorrow it'll be something different.
Not making any promises,because by tomorrow it'll be something different.
You too, huh?
Yes,drives my family NUTS!
I hear that! My wife says, "Sure, last one. I've heard that before."
My wife says "If you still want XYZ 2 weeks from now,then we will see about getting XYZ." I don't last 2 days!
Right now the itch is a Sako Varmint 6mm PPC. It's been a week,I'm almost THERE! YAY!
7�64 and A-Max would be pretty impressive
7�64 and A-Max would be pretty impressive
Why wouldn't a hopped-up 7x57 and A-Max be impressive as well?
7�64 and A-Max would be pretty impressive
Why wouldn't a hopped-up 7x57 and A-Max be impressive as well?
Never said it would not
Friend of mine owns a Mauser66 in 7�64 and were thinking of loading some A-maxs for him. I own both the 6.5�57 and 7�57, guess it might indicate which case I prefer
gitem_12 - gettin this out late... "loop gets attached in the back" Best guess is super glued to a butt plug. Homesteader
This is how far out I seat a 160 gr NP in my CZ 550 7x57.
This is what I'm getting with it at 100 yds.
The CZ 550 American chambered for 7x57mm Mauser.
gitem_12 - gettin this out late... "loop gets attached in the back" Best guess is super glued to a butt plug. Homesteader
Thanks, but Ingwe was the one concered with how it attaches,
Did you ever try them seated shorter?
No. The CZ has a .30-06(3.340") length magazine. I started long and shortened the OAL until it fed into the chamber without any problems.
Ruger chambered the 7x64 in a 77 Mark II....
Next to my Ruger 9.3x62
Both stocks were reworked by Karnis.
Thank you sir.
Oh, you were speaking of the rifles!
Thank you sir.
Oh, you were speaking of the rifles!
Well, you own them, so there must be a reason.
Ruger chambered the 7x64 in a 77 Mark II....
Next to my Ruger 9.3x62
Both stocks were reworked by Karnis.
NICE!
What is your load for the 7x64?
Here, here!
And now to get the Poob's attention!
I had one of those 77s in 7x64. It shot sub MOA with PMC 160 gr factory ammo. Gave it to a friend for Christmas a few years back. It was simply inferior to the 7x57.
No. The CZ has a .30-06(3.340") length magazine. I started long and shortened the OAL until it fed into the chamber without any problems.
The reason I asked is because the load may shoot better with the bullets seated deeper. You could be leaving something on the table by assuming less jump is always best.
The other day with one of my 308's I fired ten shots at 100 yards, and the outside of the whole cluster fits completely under a dime. The bullets were jumping over 0.1" to the lands.
No. The CZ has a .30-06(3.340") length magazine. I started long and shortened the OAL until it fed into the chamber without any problems.
The reason I asked is because the load may shoot better with the bullets seated deeper. You could be leaving something on the table by assuming less jump is always best.
The other day with one of my 308's I fired ten shots at 100 yards, and the outside of the whole cluster fits completely under a dime. The bullets were jumping over 0.1" to the lands.
Honestly Mathman,it shoots good enough for me.
I can't help but tinker, even with my hunting rifles. My shooting budget could be smaller if I could avoid it.
Completely understand Mathman.
I started out with 140 gr NP's,then went to 175 gr Rem PSP's,then went and tried 175 gr NP Semi-Spitzer's. Had a few 160 gr NP's laying around and just thought "What the hell,I'll try these and see what happens."
The 175's shoot better,but I'm a speed freak.
But the 175s kill anything�...
And the trajectory is not near as bad as one would think�an easy 300 yd gun.
True and duly noted. But I've killed deer,elk,coyotes,antelope, with the 160 gr NP and it's my favorite in a 7mm caliber.
But the 175s kill anything�...
And the trajectory is not near as bad as one would think�an easy 300 yd gun.
I'm certainly going to run a few into some porkers just to see how they perform.
The CZ still shoots the 175's better,if that makes you feel any better.
I just need to have an Ingwe Special built to run them through.
Well�..duh�..
Can't find anyone to build one. Gonna have to call Dakota and start saving some Benjis.
If it aint a push feed model 70�it aint an Ingwe Special�.
If it aint a push feed model 70�it aint an Ingwe Special�.
Don says to avoid those.
But the 175s kill anything�...
And the trajectory is not near as bad as one would think�an easy 300 yd gun.
I'm certainly going to run a few into some porkers just to see how they perform.
Very well! Wink ,wink!
If it aint a push feed model 70�it aint an Ingwe Special�.
I gots one a dem!
Ain't shooter it yeti.
Just a reminder that .270's don't bounce off...
Well�..duh�..
Yeah....but,but,but,but.
Fine,I'll leave it as is.
Do have another 7x57 in the gunsafe though.
But the 175s kill anything�...
And the trajectory is not near as bad as one would think�an easy 300 yd gun.
They kill almost as good as 130s put of a 270
Mandatory stock sticker for an Ingwe special
Just a reminder that .270's don't bounce off...
He died laughing!
The 270 is still mo betta and faster to boot!
Just a reminder that .270's don't bounce off...
He died laughing!
Actually, he probably couldn't see a thing and was easy to sneak up on. He obviously has cataracts.
Haven't seen Stick around lately so I'll just have to adopt his 'isms'�
All you .270 shooters are do-nothing keyboard jockeys who need to get out and shoot a real gun.
Hint.
The .270 130 grainer has the BC of a golf ball!
Laffin!
You .270 guys only have your imagination and pretend to believe .270s don't bounce off!
Re-laffin!
Mandatory stock sticker for an Ingwe special
This was cruel and over-the-top.
If you make it to the next pig hunt I shall push you down, sit on you, and force truth serum ( bourbon) down your throat until you admit you were wrong!
Mandatory stock sticker for an Ingwe special
This was cruel and over-the-top.
If you make it to the next pig hunt
I shall push you down, sit on you, and force truth serum ( bourbon) down your throat until you admit you were wrong!
The things that could be said.
Your mind is sick.
As evidenced by you owning .270s�.
Flattery will get you nowhere,Ingwe.
Haven't seen Stick around lately so I'll just have to adopt his 'isms'�
All you .270 shooters are do-nothing keyboard jockeys who need to get out and shoot a real gun.
Hint.
The .270 130 grainer has the BC of a golf ball!
Laffin!
You .270 guys only have your imagination and pretend to believe .270s don't bounce off!
Re-laffin!
I actually understood some of this!!
I tried to translate it into a bastid form of english at least...
I appreciate that.
Seeing your No 1 reminds me that I have one sitting under a Leupold VX3 1.5-5 that I haven't even shot yet. I need to get to that. There are pigs just waiting to be shot.
That actually wasn't my #1�it was a 1-S borrowed from 7x57 Steve in .38-55�pretty fuggin sweet rig.
THIS is my #1�7x57 of course..
and it was wearing a straight 2.5
That actually wasn't my #1�it was a 1-S borrowed from 7x57 Steve in .38-55�pretty fuggin sweet rig.
THIS is my #1�7x57 of course..
and it was wearing a straight 2.5
I like it!!! Too bad you gave it das boot.
I will admit to having purchased and shot a Brno ZG47 .270 some time in the past, I quickly disposed of it when I found myself evincing an unhealthy interest in ladies high heels...I have since returned to the fold and have long been steadily purchasing good leather work boots.
It was touch and go but I managed to stay on the manly side...on the other hand I did sell it to my brother...and his marriage did founder.
Should I feel guilty?
Yes,your brother would've had a better marriage if he owned more than one .270.
I've been married for 17 years and I own 3-.270's.
Yes,your brother would've had a better marriage if he owned more than one .270.
I've been married for 17 years and I own 3-.270's.
Ah...you have the same size shoe as your wife.
Yes, I do.
Actually the Zg47 is a very accurate rifle and my brother Martin wouldn't part with it...I sold it to him cheap so that he would have good gear to shoot with.
I gave him a couple of scopes and sent him on his way with a 1958 Brno model 5 as well.
When the silly woman flew apart the rifles came back up to me in case she tried to get her hands on them...he has them back.
Great,love it when firearms are united with their owners!
Were it anyone else but my brother I would not have parted with the rifle in the first place.
The one on the left is Martin's ZG47 .270.
Nice,just love those older rifles. They have "character."
That is also my feeling on the matter, a shame they cost a lot more than most of the modern stuff.
But you get what you pay for.
Son and I went to a El Paso gunstore to look around and found two rifles.
1) Pre '64 Winchester M 70 .264 Win MAg with a Leupold 3-9x scope. The serial # dated it to 1960 and the scope was probably the same age. Price $1750
2) Springfield M 1903 re-barreled to .270. This one has peep sights and has NOT been drilled and tapped for a scope. It has engraving that is WOW! The original safety has been dis-connected and a tang safety is on it. Price $1100
You are fortunate you can access so much for so cheap, my last Brno model 21 cost over three grand, you would be shocked at what good older firearms go for here, the rubbish is worthless but the good gear is worth a pretty penny.
I would dearly like to wander through Canada and peruse the firearms shops as I would bet London to a brick they have some terrific older firearms lurking about.
That actually wasn't my #1�it was a 1-S borrowed from 7x57 Steve in .38-55�pretty fuggin sweet rig.
ay, ay, ay...a .38-55 is on my bucket list, they are very rare.
Here's another impossibly accurate #1. It makes big holes, too
That actually wasn't my #1�it was a 1-S borrowed from 7x57 Steve in .38-55�pretty fuggin sweet rig.
ay, ay, ay...a .38-55 is on my bucket list, they are very rare.
Here's another impossibly accurate #1. It makes big holes, too
My 404 Jeffery is very similar...especially on the the big holes!
I've been married for 17 years and I own 3-.270's.
I've been married 25 and own 0-.270s.
Or should it be
Mandatory stock sticker for an Ingwe special
This was cruel and over-the-top.
If you make it to the next pig hunt
I shall push you down, sit on you, and
force truth serum ( bourbon)
down your throat until you admit you were wrong!
The things that could be said.
I will admit to having purchased and shot a Brno ZG47 .270 some time in the past, I quickly disposed of it when I found myself evincing an unhealthy interest in ladies high heels...I have since returned to the fold and have long been steadily purchasing good leather work boots.
It was touch and go but I managed to stay on the manly side...on the other hand I did sell it to my brother...and his marriage did founder.
Should I feel guilty?
That actually wasn't my #1�it was a 1-S borrowed from 7x57 Steve in .38-55�pretty fuggin sweet rig.
ay, ay, ay...a .38-55 is on my bucket list, they are very rare.
Here's another impossibly accurate #1. It makes big holes, too
Classic rifle.
Proper scope.
I take back the last two nasty things I said about you.
You are fortunate you can access so much for so cheap, my last Brno model 21 cost over three grand, you would be shocked at what good older firearms go for here, the rubbish is worthless but the good gear is worth a pretty penny.
I would dearly like to wander through Canada and peruse the firearms shops as I would bet London to a brick they have some terrific older firearms lurking about.
You know JSTUART,the new generation of shooters just don't know what they are missing IMO.
How do you know when someone shoots a 7x57?
It sounds like a loud fart, but you don't smell anything?
I've been married for 17 years and I own 3-.270's.
To the same man?
Hey Ingwe, serious question. When you had your Featherweight "expressed", did you have the forend shortened? Or did you just keep the OAL including the black forend tip?
I've been married for 17 years and I own 3-.270's.
To the same man?
Funny,you are funny!
Haven't seen Stick around lately so I'll just have to adopt his 'isms'�
All you .270 shooters are do-nothing keyboard jockeys who need to get out and shoot a real gun.
Hint.
The .270 130 grainer has the BC of a golf ball!
Laffin!
You .270 guys only have your imagination and pretend to believe .270s don't bounce off!
Re-laffin!
You are grasping at straws to start emulating stick
Hey Ingwe, serious question. When you had your Featherweight "expressed", did you have the forend shortened? Or did you just keep the OAL including the black forend tip?
OAL is pretty much the same.
This dude killed about 900 elephants with a 7x57. Maybe you ought to buy one.
This dude killed about 900 elephants with a 7x57. Maybe you ought to buy one.
Me? I have four.
This dude killed about 900 elephants with a 7x57. Maybe you ought to buy one.
Gee�never heard of that guy before.
I think gitem_12 has a perverted fascination with queers. He sure posts a lot of pics of his buddies at Castro District [bleep] functions.
I think gitem_12 has a perverted fascination with queers. He sure posts a lot of pics of his buddies at Castro District [bleep] functions.
The funny part is that you seem to hone in on any thread that has pictures of queers in it.
Whats a matter, all done recruiting for ISiS for the day, too late to pray to Mecca?
I wonder what sites you surf to run across pictures like that.
I've never seen anything like it
This!!
Adding that I could pretty easily go another 55 years never seeing another.
My buddy texts me the other day....he has a nice Rem 700 280 MR that shoots really well....but he thinks he wants to use it as a donor, re barrel with a Douglas #2,and chamber 7x57, then chase his tail for a McMillan MR Edge pattern stock.
I am a wet blanket...
I say to him WTF are you thinking?
The 280 fits that Rem 700 action better,goes faster easily,and the rifle is all together and shoots like crazy....plus Rem 700 MR's in 280 ain't on every street corner.
All that work and expense to lose 150 fps,and end up with a cartridge that doesn't fit a Rem 700 action.I also told him if you are gonna do ANYTHING with it, screw on a 270 tube.....
In the end I told him leave it alone....
You 7x57 people are slightly deranged...
I had a Mt rifle in 7x57 Bob�the cartridges fit in just fine
My buddy texts me the other day....he has a nice Rem 700 280 MR that shoots really well....but he thinks he wants to use it as a donor, re barrel with a Douglas #2,and chamber 7x57, then chase his tail for a McMillan MR Edge pattern stock.
I am a wet blanket...
I say to him WTF are you thinking?
The 280 fits that Rem 700 action better,goes faster easily,and the rifle is all together and shoots like crazy....plus Rem 700 MR's in 280 ain't on every street corner.
All that work and expense to lose 150 fps,and end up with a cartridge that doesn't fit a Rem 700 action.I also told him if you are gonna do ANYTHING with it, screw on a 270 tube.....
In the end I told him leave it alone....
You 7x57 people are slightly deranged...
Always the voice of pragmatism.
If Matt was the bud in question, you could chalk it up to a yute being yute.
They are easy to spot as they tend to wear pith helmets and never shut up about a guy named Bell ;-)
They are easy to spot as they tend to wear pith helmets and never shut up about a guy named Bell ;-)
People with a lisp need helmets to take a leak?
I'm on the way out the door w/my "Bombay Bowler", my 93 and pink ear muffs to mow the lawn. Really do like the gun rack on my MTU!-Muddy
I'm on the way out the door w/my "Bombay Bowler", my 93 and pink ear muffs to mow the lawn. Really do like the gun rack on my MTU!-Muddy
My wife and I just bought a long-overdue new house (new to us, anyway). It has a very large yard and came with a zero-turn John Deere mower. When she saw it, she said, "That's mine." Fine with me. Now I need to buy her a Bombay Bowler to keep the sun off her face.
Rev. Just got done and no old 175 gr. WW rounds expended. Excellent pocket gopher bullets with just the right combination of penetration and expansion for proper fertilization!-Muddy
Rev. Just got done and no old 175 gr. WW rounds expended. Excellent pocket gopher bullets with just the right combination of penetration and expansion for proper fertilization!-Muddy
I'll load her some to carry on the Z-Trak. Thanks for the tip.
They are easy to spot as they tend to wear pith helmets and never shut up about a guy named Bell ;-)
People with a lisp need helmets to take a leak?
Chuckle, not sure your target but thought I'd share "pith" is correct, as in a plant fiber that the helmets are/were made from originally and covered with cloth, hence pith helmets.
It was a play on words. I know exactly what they are.
Rev. Don't forget to get her a pair of Winchester brand pink ear protection from wal-mart for the Z-Trak!-Muddy
Rev. Don't forget to get her a pair of Winchester brand pink ear protection from wal-mart for the Z-Trak!-Muddy
Absolutely! And here's a whole kit that comes with glasses and bag to store lunch and drinks! I'll be The Man come Christmastime!!
Hey Ingwe: think Corbett would have used one?
Rev. Don't forget to get her a pair of Winchester brand pink ear protection from wal-mart for the Z-Trak!-Muddy
Absolutely! And here's a whole kit that comes with glasses and bag to store lunch and drinks! I'll be The Man come Christmastime!!
Yup you DA MAN!
If need be we have an extra bed.
Yup you DA MAN!
If need be we have an extra bed.
I appreciate that.
Look at it this way Rev,I'll take you coyote calling.
And the daytime highs are in the 60's,lows in the 20-30's.
I'll keep it in mind. Those lows might be tough on a Florida boy, though.
Don't worry Sport,just add more warm clothing.
Couple of years ago,it did get down to 9* according to the truck gauge. That was a little nippy,my call froze before the end of my third series.
Don't worry Sport,just add more warm clothing.
I'd look like Randy from "A Christmas Story".
Yeah and.
If you're worried about killing a coyote,I have a 12 ga with some shells loaded with BB shot.
My buddy texts me the other day....he has a nice Rem 700 280 MR that shoots really well....but he thinks he wants to use it as a donor, re barrel with a Douglas #2,and chamber 7x57, then chase his tail for a McMillan MR Edge pattern stock.
I am a wet blanket...
I say to him WTF are you thinking?
The 280 fits that Rem 700 action better,goes faster easily,and the rifle is all together and shoots like crazy....plus Rem 700 MR's in 280 ain't on every street corner.
All that work and expense to lose 150 fps,and end up with a cartridge that doesn't fit a Rem 700 action.I also told him if you are gonna do ANYTHING with it, screw on a 270 tube.....
In the end I told him leave it alone....
You 7x57 people are slightly deranged...
Always the voice of pragmatism.
If Matt was the bud in question, you could chalk it up to a yute being yute.
Yup!
My buddy texts me the other day....he has a nice Rem 700 280 MR that shoots really well....but he thinks he wants to use it as a donor, re barrel with a Douglas #2,and chamber 7x57, then chase his tail for a McMillan MR Edge pattern stock.
I am a wet blanket...
I say to him WTF are you thinking?
The 280 fits that Rem 700 action better,goes faster easily,and the rifle is all together and shoots like crazy....plus Rem 700 MR's in 280 ain't on every street corner.
All that work and expense to lose 150 fps,and end up with a cartridge that doesn't fit a Rem 700 action.I also told him if you are gonna do ANYTHING with it, screw on a 270 tube.....
In the end I told him leave it alone....
You 7x57 people are slightly deranged...
Were I accorded a rifle do-over, I'd buy a only one rifle: a Sako in .280 Rem and spend the rest of my money on hunts.
Yeah and.
If you're worried about killing a coyote,I have a 12 ga with some shells loaded with BB shot.
Nah, I'm not worried about that. I'd ask to use that one rifle you occasionally show the picture of - you know, the one covered in mold.
You know, when I was growing up here in Florida, coyotes were something that was found only in the west. 40 years later, they're all over the place here as well. I don't know how many we've taken off our lease, but it's quite a few. We see 'em, we shoot 'em...with whatever we happen to have in hand.
Are you talking about the .22/6mm? If so,a word of warning,it weighs pretty darn close to 11 lbs.