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Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 elkhunternm #9185449 09/17/14
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,890 Likes: 12 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,890 Likes: 12	Did you ever try them seated shorter?

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Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 mathman #9185467 09/17/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	No. The CZ has a .30-06(3.340") length magazine. I started long and shortened the OAL until it fed into the chamber without any problems. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 elkhunternm #9185681 09/17/14
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX sactoller Campfire Outfitter
sactoller Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX	Ruger chambered the 7x64 in a 77 Mark II.... Next to my Ruger 9.3x62 Both stocks were reworked by Karnis. Official member of "The Clan of Turd-like People"

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 sactoller #9185684 09/17/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	First class! "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 RevMike #9185808 09/17/14
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sactoller Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX	Thank you sir. Oh, you were speaking of the rifles! Official member of "The Clan of Turd-like People"

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Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 sactoller #9185816 09/17/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by sactoller Thank you sir. Oh, you were speaking of the rifles! Well, you own them, so there must be a reason. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 sactoller #9185827 09/17/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Originally Posted by sactoller Ruger chambered the 7x64 in a 77 Mark II.... Next to my Ruger 9.3x62 Both stocks were reworked by Karnis. NICE! What is your load for the 7x64? Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 RevMike #9185828 09/17/14
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sactoller Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX	Here, here! And now to get the Poob's attention! Official member of "The Clan of Turd-like People"

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 sactoller #9185841 09/17/14
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DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,212 Likes: 22 In the Swamps	I had one of those 77s in 7x64. It shot sub MOA with PMC 160 gr factory ammo. Gave it to a friend for Christmas a few years back. It was simply inferior to the 7x57. I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 DigitalDan #9185861 09/17/14
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sactoller Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,717 Weatherford, TX	Got a .275 Rigby in a Ruger also... Official member of "The Clan of Turd-like People"

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Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 elkhunternm #9185884 09/17/14
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mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,890 Likes: 12	Originally Posted by elkhunternm No. The CZ has a .30-06(3.340") length magazine. I started long and shortened the OAL until it fed into the chamber without any problems. The reason I asked is because the load may shoot better with the bullets seated deeper. You could be leaving something on the table by assuming less jump is always best. The other day with one of my 308's I fired ten shots at 100 yards, and the outside of the whole cluster fits completely under a dime. The bullets were jumping over 0.1" to the lands.

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 sactoller #9185887 09/17/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	There we go! "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 mathman #9185922 09/17/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Originally Posted by mathman Originally Posted by elkhunternm No. The CZ has a .30-06(3.340") length magazine. I started long and shortened the OAL until it fed into the chamber without any problems. The reason I asked is because the load may shoot better with the bullets seated deeper. You could be leaving something on the table by assuming less jump is always best. The other day with one of my 308's I fired ten shots at 100 yards, and the outside of the whole cluster fits completely under a dime. The bullets were jumping over 0.1" to the lands. Honestly Mathman,it shoots good enough for me. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 elkhunternm #9185930 09/17/14
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mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,890 Likes: 12	I can't help but tinker, even with my hunting rifles. My shooting budget could be smaller if I could avoid it.

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 mathman #9185959 09/17/14
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elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Completely understand Mathman. I started out with 140 gr NP's,then went to 175 gr Rem PSP's,then went and tried 175 gr NP Semi-Spitzer's. Had a few 160 gr NP's laying around and just thought "What the hell,I'll try these and see what happens." The 175's shoot better,but I'm a speed freak. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 elkhunternm #9185968 09/17/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	But the 175s kill anything�... And the trajectory is not near as bad as one would think�an easy 300 yd gun. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 ingwe #9185981 09/17/14
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elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	True and duly noted. But I've killed deer,elk,coyotes,antelope, with the 160 gr NP and it's my favorite in a 7mm caliber. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 elkhunternm #9185984 09/17/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	Yeah but�but�.but�.. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 ingwe #9185990 09/17/14
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RevMike Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 4,852	Originally Posted by ingwe But the 175s kill anything�... And the trajectory is not near as bad as one would think�an easy 300 yd gun. I'm certainly going to run a few into some porkers just to see how they perform. "An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown

Re: How to tell when someone shoots a 7x57 ingwe #9185999 09/17/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,162 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	The CZ still shoots the 175's better,if that makes you feel any better. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

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