I read on another forum that guys are getting 3200 fps out of the 270 Winchester with 130 grain bullets. Are any of you duplicating that speed safely? What's the load formula you're using?

Thanks
Jim

Alliant is showing that with RL16, 24" barrel and a 130 Speer. I've gotten pretty close with a 130 Hornady and RL16 from my 22" 270 Win. Pretty good powder for the 130's from what I can tell.

Can't speak for the 270 win, but that is what Alliant is showing for a 270 WSM with a 140 grain accubond over a max load of reloader 26. I think it might be doable with the 270 win with a 130.

RL26,RL17,Superformance and Norma MRP all do over 3200 in my 270 Win Vanguard with the 24" barrel. Just
got 2 pounds of RL16 so will try it next. Using Barnes TTSX 130gr Bullets. All loads seemed safe? Just got a 30/06
so I,m working on that now. Needed a lighter rifle, at least that what I told my wife.

It's easy.

Get one with a 26" barrel and 60.5gr of H4831, NBT and Win brass.

As told to me by the Nosler chief Ballistician a few years ago...

in a 270 or 30/06 you can get enough 4831SC into either case to exceed SAAMI specs...

H 1000 is another good choice if you are shopping for velocity...

Basically Hodgdon/ADI equivalents of RL 16 and 26.

In my Ruger #1 in .270 Win. with a 26" barrel,a Nosler 130 ballistic tip averages 3170 fps. 59 grains of H4831 in a Remington case using a cci 200 primer.

Thought I'd share that my friend's Cooper 270 with 24" barrel gets 3300 fps with Hornady's superformance 130 SSTs and it shoots bugholes! He wanted to handload and I told him he would never find any load that would run with this factory load.

MagPro has been claiming 3239 fps with 130's in 24"barreled .270's for several years now. Don't remember the charge weight.

Did you mean to write that "you can't get enough 4831 SC into either case to exceed SAAMI specs"?


I've gotten over 3k with 150gr PTs in a 22" Tikka, using RL26, 3,200fps with 130gr bullets should be very doable.

130's at 3,200 is pretty damn zippy. And somehow 270's suck.

I got just over 3,200fps using a Barnes 130gr TTSX and RE22, but I also got horizontal stringing. I did not get any of the usual pressure signs.

To cure the stringing, I switched to H4831sc and lost about 75fps, but it shoots 3/4". I got similar accuracy with H4350 but less speed than H4831sc.

I forget the charge weight but I got right at 3200 fps with a Hornady 130 Spire Point and RL-22 from a 24" barreled Model 70 .270 with excellent accuracy, that was my standard hunting load for that rifle. However, I shied away from RL-22 when a different lot gave over 3300 fps with the same charge weight. Yikes. I did back it down to get 3200 again but just didn't trust RL-22 after that.

I still think 110 TTSX 3,400 is pretty bad ass.....

My 24" .270 averages 3,475 feet per second with Barnes TTSX 110 running 63.5 grains of Ramshot Hunter and Fed 215 primer. That is 1.5 grains below Barnes max load. Three shots normally run between 5/16" to 5/8" at 100 yards. Fired two shots at pigs. One weighed 236 and the other weighed 212. Both were broadside shots with exits. Wild pigs have almost not fat so the bacon is mostly meat[/b]! Yum[b]! Yum!

Well yeah...

Guy

H4831 and IMR 7828 are the only ones I see that can take a 130 that high. May be more....I'm not sure.

That's amazing. Lucky guy!

I take it from what you folks are saying that 3200 fps from 130 grain 270 Win is at or above the upper limits and few, if any, powders will get it there. I noted that Hodgdon (on line) maxes out with the Bar 130 TSX at 3144 in front of 55.5 grains of H 100V.

My barrel is 24 inches and, though a bit of a rifle loony, I'm not swaping it out for 26".

If guys are saying its safe simply because a chronograph told them so , I urge some caution.

Thanks Starman.
That's why I'm asking some questions. I realize that by the time pressure signs show up you may be already over pressured. I'm thinking that 65,000 psi should be about max but I have no way to measure for it. I'd like to shoot the 130TTSX at that speed and am being cautious. The word "SAFELY" was used with intentionality.

RL26 is probably the safest powder to use when trying to get 3200fps out of 130gr, Barnes TTSX bullets. with 5 shots I got 3209 Average.
Quickload said it should be 3207fps at 58,324 psi. pretty close. All the other loads looked to be in the lower 60,000psi range. MRP would be the next most likely candidate.

I know we are living in times where there are a lot of cool offerings out there, and efficiency/shootability play parts in peoples choices more so these days, but it's still hard to argue with a sleek 130 like the Etip or NAB at 3,100+ from a 22" barrel as being a dang effective and balanced package for any deer hunt, anywhere.....

oooooh yes you can. I know this............. I've been loading and chrono'ing 270's for 30 years.


Casey

My current standard load for my HVA 270 with a 23.6" barrel is 60 g. of IMR7828 ssc powder, Hornady 130 g. bullet. Hodgdon on-line max with that bullet is 60.2 g. This load averages 3122 fps. in the HVA rifle with no signs of excess pressure and I have shot many rounds of that load. Earlier this year I chronographed the same load in my 270 Kimber 84L Montana (24" barrel) and it registered 3236 fps . I thought that 3122 fps. was humming along, but 3200fps. + greatly exceeded my comfort level.

Needless to say I did not fire a second round nor will I use that load in the Kimber.

Other owners of 270 Kimbers post their velocities with RL 26 with 60 g. or more of powder and the 150 g. NPT of around 3,000 fps. My rifle reaches 3,000 fps with 58 g. of RL26. So what seems fine in one rifle may not do well in another. The moral for each rifle is to work up carefully from below and watch the chronograph.

The other moral is to run the numbers on a 130 going 3000 fps vs. 3,200 fps and you might see that it's not worth the worry.....

New to the forums...I guess this will be my first post! I'm averaging 3,268 fps from a stock Model 70 Sporter (24" barrel) with this ammo at slightly less than MOA. I'm also getting 2,976 fps with the Precision Hunter 145 Gr ELD-X at .5 MOA. Between those two cartridges I can kill anything I'll ever point that rifle at, and likely can't improve enough with handloads to justify the effort.

Needless to say I'm a fan of M70s (I own three and a fourth may be in my future) and Hornady factory ammo.

Welcome. It looks like you have some good numbers.

I am getting this easily with R26 but as far as performance a few years ago some of the factory 270 ammo was really anemic. Some loads clocked in the high 2800 range and an average of all these pipsqueak loads was still at mid 2900 fps yet these killed just fine. No apparent loss in effectiveness for what is almost a reduced load for the 270.

Same with the 270 vs 270 WSM they are closer velocity wise now with the newer powders but I still expect more out of the WSM. Can I see a difference in the field? Nope.

I have a new 270 WSM that I'm just breaking in, but so far my velocities are very similar to the 270. If this keeps up after I've put another hundred rounds or os through the barrel I may well sell it and just stick with the 270.

Did the same.

My .270 WSM, with a 24" barrel, easily does 3300 fps, using a Nosler 130 gr. E-Tip bullet. Accuracy is superb. At 3350 fps, accuracy falls off a bit.

My most accurate .270 WSM loads in a 24" barrel run between 3200 and 3250 with a 130gr bullet. I'm keeping this particular rifle because the accuracy is so outstanding.