Hello all, I am looking to invest in a new primary hunting rifles in 8 months when this deployment comes to a close. I am debt free now 3 months in, so it’s all savings. My splurge will be a new rifle and scope. So here is what I’m thinking. I am 23, in tip top shape, and itching to really kickstart my hunting career. I hunt deer, hogs, and a lot of small game/varmints; but I’m thinking Elk, Sheep and Bear now. My current hunting rifles are a Bergara Timber .308 and Marlin 1895 .45-70, but nothing I’d consider a mountain rifle. I am looking for something weighing under 7.5 lbs scoped and lighter is better. I’ve looked at the M700 Mountain Rifle, Kimber Hunter, Barret Fieldcraft, and Bergara Mountain Premier. I want reasonable, good hunting accuracy, light weight, power for CXP2-3 game, and preferrably a rifle ready for the elements. My price with scope would hopefully be sub $2300. I’ve been shooting my entire life, both civilian and military with regularity. I’m not recoil shy, then again who doesn’t shoot better without a .338 RUM belting them? So shootability is key. I’m very comfortable with .30-06/.308 recoil, and have shot the .300 WM more than a little. That doesn’t mean I don’t want a .270 or 6.5 Creedmoor, they’re dandy cartridges in my book. Any recommendations are appreciated!

Barrett or the bergara, either will be an excellent choice. I am a huge 308 fan but you never go wrong with the 30-06. The weight difference between the long and short action is truly negligible. Winmag is also a good choice but I’m not a fan of the extra recoil for anything less than elk. You could put a brake on it but why not just take a step down and go 30-06. The glass is honestly the tough part. There are so many good choices. I’m currently looking at a vortex Diamondback Tactical so that I can dial bit also stay lightweight.

MM

I'd take a long, hard look at the Tikka. You should be able to put superb glass on it and still come in under $2,300.


Okie John

The tikka is one I really don’t know much about. I’ve fire one of the older superlite models in .270 and liked it. I’ve heard they made changes for the better. That’s one I’ll add to my list.

Hard to argue this route.





"Good choice" and "Diamondback Tactical" should never appear in the same discussion.

Barrett FC in 30-06 w/ a moderately powered scope of your choosing. I'd roll with a fixed 6x.

Yep, Tikka T3x Superlite in .300 Win from Sportsmans warehouse would be a strong choice in a rifle then add a Swarovski Z3 2.5-10x42 in some Talley lightweights....(around $1700 total) but that is only one choice of many great rifle/scope combo's on the market that will fill your criteria, I could easily name 5 more .....Good luck...Hb

I'd advise you to get your hands on the Superlite and handle it before you decide. That's a LIGHT rifle!

I had one and couldn't get used to it - I may just be an old fart, used to some weight in my firearms, but I couldn't feel the gun "settle down" for me when aiming, especially if I had been climbing and was breathing hard.

According to many writers here on the 'fire, getting the best accuracy with a really light rifle is something that isn't simple. And for me, in the excitement of the hunt, I just want to pull up my rifle, center the crosshairs and tickle the trigger, not worry about technique. I find my current Tikka T3X stainless about as light as I would want a rifle.

Of course, what suits me may not be worth spit to you, and the only way to find out is to try it, but that's the fun of it, isn't it?

Best of luck.

+1, though I'd lean toward a 2.5X8 variable scope.

I'd prefer a longer scope on a long action, but I have done similar with the 2.5-8x36 Leupold.

Go to a good gun store - check out as many models as you can - find one that feels right. 308/30-06/280 or...? Top it with good glass and go hunt. Chances are in your life it will be one of many rifles. A Tikka 3X would meet your requirements and in your budget a decent scope is no problem to find. I like leupold and have used them for years with no issues. Good luck and good hunting.

Like most of the guys here, I've owned a lot of different rifles. My new favorite is the Tikka. I've had five now. Whitaker's, a sponsor here, has a 6.5 Creedmoor with a 24-inch barrel for a good cost. In your shoes, I would order one of those. I have had good luck ordering Optics from camera land, another sponsor here. I just ordered a Bushnell lrhs I from gap for a really good sale price. That would be another good option for you.

Only issue with the Tikka's is if you plan to push long, heavy for caliber bullets. Their barrels are twisted 1:11 on 30 cal and 9.5 on the 7mms. The mag box is also short. These only matter if you plan to handload and want flexibility. For 99% of uses, they're a non-issue. Just wanted to point out since you're new to Tikkas. They're great options. They will be my next rifle purchase. They extended the SA mag length on the 6.5 CM, so you can load to the lands on that. Or, you can buy a medium length magazine for a .308, 7-08, or like chambering to get the added length.

I'd also shy away from a Swarovski Z3 on a LW rifle, esp a magnum. The eye relief is pretty tight for that purpose. I'd vote for an SWFA. Fixed 6x if you want to keep the whole rig under $1000. 3-9 if you want to save a VERY small amount of weight.

I have a Vortex Razor LH 2-10 on my hunting rig. It is DEF not a turret twister. They're beyond mushy and feel terrible, but I only needed to get it zeroed. But, assuming it holds zero, I'm loving it so far. I want to really put it through it's paces before I will say I trust it.

I recently went and fondled a bunch of like rifles. Browning HC Speed, Barrett field craft, Kimber subalpine, Tikka superlite, etc. To me, I liked the Barrett the most in my hand, BUT I did not like that the safety doesn't lock the bolt. That was my only negative on the FC. And honestly, I'm not sure any of them are worth $1000 over the Tikka based on my opinion. Yes, no doubt they're better, but to me, I'm not sure $1000 better.

Keep schit simple and do yourself as many mechanical favors,as possible. Hint.

Bang for the buck and weighing supreme merit,the Barrett FC has no equal. It has a 3" box,which does huge favors,they are reliably twisted correctly and throat geometry is in synch with all. The S/S action pays dividends by default,as does a S/S spout,if only obviously. The 8x40 base mounting system and it's (5) fasteners,is without peer. The triggers aren't shabby,though a touch thin,especially in comparison to a Montucky. Stock ergo's aren't horrid,but are yet again second fiddle to a Montucky. The HEART of any/all rifles is the metal and that of course,is the first thing Window Licking Clueless Fhuqks,overlook. Reliably. Hint.



By citing something as archaic and convoluted as a "CXP2-3",you obviously don't Reload,so Factory Fodder rates a thunk. Connecting all of those dots,will steer one directly to 6.5 Creed' and 2700fps 147 ELD's(expressly). Conjoin same with a 20 MOA rail utilizing all (5) fasteners and wearing 'Horn rings to lock a 6x MQ into position...you'll reap a ruggedly reliable platform,which will do it all,less breaking stride. While doing so,it'll happily recoil very little,hold (4) rounds in the belly,balance/handle exceptionally and fend atmospherics in non-lineal fashion. If a guy is good on a Reloading Press,then the 1-8" 7-08 in the same rifle,flingin' 180 ELD's at 2600fps,is a rock solid avenue to partake.




You'll easily stay welllllll within budget and have a platform second to none,for ACTUAL fhuqking use. Hint. Whittaker's has 'em in stock for $1589.99 and free shipping(21" 6.5 Creed'). A Talley 20MOA rail is under 70 Clams and 'Horn's are under 100. A 6x MQ won't cost more than $299,but I'd sniff The SampleList first(there isn't one listed,this very second). So the MOST you could make it cost turn key,is under $2100,complete with scope caps...which leaves 200 Clams for 147 ELD Factory Fodder and Whittakers lets it go for under 26 Clams a box.

The itty-bitty bastards are superbly rugged,when scope properly,in a good mounting system. Hint.





Tikka's are steaming pieces of fhuqking schit,in comparison. Hint.

1000 Words On Fieldcraft Kreedmire

1000 More Words On Fieldcraft Kreedmire


If only for giggles:

1000 Words On Teeker Goat Fhuqk


Though in fairness...I cain't comment on a Bushie LRHS either. Laffin'!

Hint.

1000 Words On LRHS "Tracking"


You've been led to water...thank me later.

Hint.




As an aside,none of the Montucky .473" S/A's or L/A's have schit for COAL latitude,nor does Teeker or Barretts in L/A. 700 or bust there. Hint.

RPM,Throating and COAL latitude,matter more than a "smidge".

Re-hint.

Of all you mentioned I have several of each ( except the Bergara) and by a thin margin I would buy a Barrett FC, I have 2 now a SA 7/08 and a LA 6.5 swede. They are crafted to the highest standards, barrels are twisted right, mag boxes are sufficient for the longest BC bullets and shoot just about anything to an astonishingly accurate level of consistency. They are light, and well made, no tweaks or fixes needed. I have a VX5 HD 3-15 on one and an Zeiss HD5 3-15 on the other. They are both under 7 lbs. full up with ammo.

My second choice is split between a Tikka SL in 308, 30/06 or a Kimber Montana in 280 AI. Both of those have been really awesome and consistent shooters also. Then an older M700 MR in 280 dropped into an edge stock, the one is probably one of my favorites. But you mentioned bear, black bear no problem.

Coastal grizzles stick to a 30/06 or your guide gun. I have a 35 whelen I would venture to say is probably the gun I would choose to carry for elk in Bear country, it is not super light, but 8 lbs. is not a rock either, but it is accurate.

Do you plan on killing animals bigger than this?







If not, another vote for the Tikka. Mine is a standard T3 in 7mm Rem Mag. Keep in mind the Superlite is about 8 ounces lighter, or about half a full bladder. I have a couple SL also and they’re great, but the standard is fine too.

As for twist, the 1-9.5” is great for the 162 Eldx, which kilt that bull. One shot, 20 foot recovery. My brother shot a big cow elk with the same rifle and load, similar results. She also shoots the 160 Accubond extremely well. Groups consistently .7 and under, usually less.






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When did vortex become crap? I know, I should spend more on glass than the gun. Forgot that.

MM

Guess I’ll just buy a swfa luckily my mossberg patriot is less than the scope 😉

Not necessarily, but a Diamondback shouldn't even be on the radar.

I'd be Barret Fieldcraft in 7-08 no doubt if starting from scratch for bears and elk. Top it with a NF SHV 3-9 or a SWDFA 3-9 or fixed 10 as your budget will be close....

I really could be a one big game rifle dude with the above...

I'd find a Hartford made M70 classic stainless FW in 30-06/ 7mm mag/ 300 WM and get a McMillan Edge stock.

Grab a Tikka in 7mm Magnum, a 3-9 SWFA
Put the rest of that hard earned money towards a deposit on a block of dirt, the best investment you will ever make.

I’m still learning my way around a press. What powder allows you to push 180’s to 2600fps out of a 21” FC tube? I could definitely get behind that.

I’m getting 2790 FPS with a 150 eldx out of my T3 7mm-08. Max charge of Big Game. 2600 FPS with a 180 sounds a little aggressive.

150s shoot like this:





And they do this to a bull at 404 yards.











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FYI I picked up a NIB T3 Lite Stainless 7mm Rem Mag a couple of months ago for $550. There are deals to be had. I can’t say I’m impressed by the changes Tikka made to the T3.





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I'm very surprised to hear you're 23 years old. Time flies I guess.

This ^^^^^ Go to a well stocked gun store and understand what "feels right" for YOU. Then proceed... Many accurate rifles. But none that are one size fits all. Until then, be safe.

What Boxer says except get a 308.

He already has a .308

Damn pharm, if that 7mm08 field dresses and throws a bull in the back of a pickup, I'll take it!!!! Quite remarkable man

What he needs is a Kimber Hunter in 7mm-08.

Not a light mountain rifle in 308. I've got 4 308 rifles.

You can load the Fieldcraft long with a 3” box.

Hornady shows 2,500 FPS at 2.800 OAL.

I’ll bet 2,600 FPS isn’t a stretch.


https://press.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/load-data/7mm-08-remington-180gr-eld-match.pdf

He's not one to double up.

I average 2610 fps with the 180 VLD running 49.0 Gr RL-26 at 2.900 OAL. Its my go to long range round in my FC. Mine is a 21 inch barrel. Pressure is around 57500 PSI. So its not overloaded.

Thanks for that. I hadn’t seen their data for 180’s. I saw 162s maxes out 2600 - 2650, but I didn’t factor in the added OAL

Pretty much have to agree with Boxer...........especially about the assessment of Tikka's & I'll just add that they have no soul either. It'll be a cold day in hell when I ever own one.

You can't go wrong with the Fieldcraft in a 6.5 or 7-08 for all hoofed game & you have a 45-70 for bear & a 308 for moose if you choose to use it.

I'd maybe deviate on the scope choice as I'd prefer a Nightforce SHV 3-10.........It's a nice sized package & reliable as hell. Unless you're shooting 1,000 yards, you can live w/o the 20 MOA rail, but it's nice if you need it.

If you want to go the LA route, the Rem 700 Mountain SS is not a bad rifle.............maybe not as desirable as some older models but still plenty good; you'll likely want a different trigger though. Great things can be done with a 280 Rem. from light to heavy. Ditto for the similar Bergara models.

MM

The five pound and a few ounce Fieldcraft seem ideally suited for a 6.5 Creedmoor, 7-08, maybe 270. And that pretty well fits the description of what I'd want in a mountain rifle where I was on the move for goats and sheep and big mulies.
But I might rather have a 30-06, 7 Mag, or 308 for big elk and bear. And I'm not recoil shy either, but even a short light 308 can be a bit jumpy. So personally, I'd likely pick something a touch bigger if choosing one of these cartridges.
You should find a place that has an ultralight 30-06 that you can test shoot and see how you feel about it before making a large investment. But the long actions do come with a longer barrel, so that might make a difference.

The long barrelled, long action Swede might be the sweetest shooting Fieldcraft. And still only 5.6 pounds. But ammo isn't as easy as the rest, and the 270 is more power in the same package.

I’d keep my eyes peeled for a second hand custom 700 with a Mcmillan stock chambered in 7mm rem mag, 280, 6.5-06, or comparable calibers. There are some super deals to be had on customs people have a ton of money tied up in. If I had one big game rifle it would have a 2.5x10 nxs NF on it. Out of all the scope I’ve used that one is by for my favorite. MOAR reticle of course. Don’t handicap your self with to small of a caliber if you plan on elk hunting.

My nephew’s first bull. He dropped the guts and we we able to get a four wheeler close enough to get a line to it, then drag it down hill. Right off the berm into the truck.

Funny story, on his first elk hunt I killed a bull with my 7mm-08 (Partitions). He and his dad, my brother, heard the shot and came to the kill site. High fives all around, a few pictures, then my brother told him, “drop the guts.”

“What?”

“Get on it boy, it’s your first hunt.”

“Uh, okay.”

So I didn’t get bloody at all.





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I wouldn't buy a Nightforce unless I had no budget...or weight wasn't a factor.

I guess it all depends on what you want out of your rifle.

Accuracy, dependability, affordability...dirty words to some.














I have lots more, but you get the idea. The key is, buy what you want. Buy what feels good. Shoot a lot and get good with whatever you choose. Better yet, find some guys who own the rifles you’re interested in, in the chambering you want, and see if they’ll let you try before you buy.

First and foremost, thank you for your service. If you’re ever in my neck of the woods I’ll gladly let you try out one of my “steaming piles,” I guarantee it will outshoot your other options.






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Appreciate the comments guys. So what I’m understanding is that Barrett’s are svelte, and Tikka has attractors and detractors. As for the what I want to hunt, well I’m not envisioning anything bigger than elk. That’s why the 6.5, 7-08, those style of cartridges are appealing. I’ve killed a handful of deer with the .270 so that cartridge also appeals to me. I like the way everyone talks up these Fieldcrafts, they seem too notch.

I'll say check out Bergara Rifles. They are everything the modern Remington 700 should be.

Boxer, Stick, anybody; WTF are 'Horn rings?

Thanks.

Edit: Burris Extreme Tactical Signatures?

I would take advantage of your situation of being debt free and sounds like free of wife and kid responsibilities and up your budget a bit. I would build a custom in 280 ai and top it with a nightforce nxs. It will last you a lifetime and do everything you want. I have had tikkas and no doubt they shoot but just never could warm up to them. I've had 3 fieldcrafts and moved two down the road as I prefer to build what I want with my choice of stock,barrel trigger, color, etc. Everything I have now aside from the .308 fieldcraft is a custom or semi custom built to my specs. If you don't want to wait for a smith to build look at the proof research or gap rifles available at cabelas and I believe you will get a military discount there as well as with nightforce.

True story. Those things are heavy. Check out the Bushnell LRHS for a hunting setup.

That’s great advice after he has spent a few Years trying things out. I went straight semi custom for my first rifle and it was a BIG mistake. I didn’t know what I wanted/needed or liked/disliked until I tried out several rifles,

I can definitely see your point as I am twice his age and I guess my view is I wasted a lot of money buying and later selling rifles that I thought were what I wanted until I started having rifles built to my needs and wants.

I'm thinkin, which is probably a mistake...that those are Seekins rings.
http://www.seekinsprecision.com/product/scope-rings.html

Edit: But after looking, they are obviously not.

Not even close...

Vortex Razor or Vortex Viper are good, everything else by Vortex is pretty much...well expect to need to use that warranty everybody raves about.🙄

Sweet Jeezus the ignorance here is rampant.

triggercreep...I'll let all the experts give you their opinions on which rifle/scope to buy. I just want to thank you for your service and glad you're coming home soon. If "home" to you is close to Central Louisiana, come to our local gun shop and if they have what you are looking for (they have a pretty fair number of rifles for being in a small town) I'll kick in a C-note on what you purchase. Not much, but just to say thanks for serving our country. God bless you-Eddie

I killed the buck on the right at 541 yards with a single 140 grain Nosler Partition started at 2870 FPS from a 7mm-08, looking through a Leupold VX2 3-9x40 CDS. Tikka rifle, steam coming off it.




DRT.

Lots of guys disparage the Leupold but it has worked well for me.





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Lowest budget NF, $900 and 21 ounces. Ignorance...I guess so. Maybe someday I'll have a change of heart on the matter.

You only need to decide which caliber you want. Then go to the gun store and ask to hold the rifles they have in that caliber. You’ll know it when you hold it. Browning xbolt, tikka, and a vortex scope and go learn to shoot it well. Save the rest of the money.

Jack O'Connors one Sheep guide for Desert Sheep carried an old iron sighted model 94 in 25-35. When Jack asked him about his choice of rifle he replied "Hell, the trouble with Sheep is getting to them. Once you do that you can knock them over with anything".

Well for elk I figure 6.5, .270, 7MM-08 all do the trick. I’m thinking the Kimber Hunter might be one to look closely at. I can shoot and I can climb, I just need a rifle that makes both easy in a caliber that just works. I’m not omen to believe I need a .300 to kill. I don’t. So I’m taking a hard look at the 6.5 and 7-08. Is there a reason to hate the Leupold VX-3? Kimber and the Barret are most pleasing without me actually handling them. So that only sort of counts for anything

If it were me, I would be looking very hard at the Fieldcraft on your list. Just make sure you handle all the rifles you are thinking about.

If you want to stay with the lightweight mountain rifle theme, keep weight in mind for mounting system/scope.

If you want to trend towards the LR hunting and dialing, then you can pick apprpriate mounting system/turret scope. While adding some weight.

Only you can decide what would serve your purpose best and what you want.


As far as chambering, many will work. I would start at 6.5 Creed and go up to 30-06.

Sure as schitt don't need to stoop to a windowlicking Tikka to get that.........................

But if that horns you up, then rock own.

MM

I'd second what 222ND wrote yesterday on page 2. Lots of us here are retirement age and 20 to 30 years back we were putting together custom mountain type rifles that would beat anything on the new racks today. That includes me with a 7# all up 7mm RM with a 30mm Swaroviski 2.5-10x42 PH that doesn't even get out hunting anymore. There is more good stuff showing up in the collector rooms and gun shows than ever before because most guys my age are not willing to pack up a mountain side at 3 a.m and drag out an elk any longer. It is lots easier to buy a rifle than it is to sell one, so don't fill the gun safe full of junk just because it is cheap.

You need to check your premesis.........................

LRHS Specs

Nightforce NXS Specs

Nightforce SHV Specs

The LRHS is a good scope alright, but it's heavier, bigger & more expensive than the SHV, bigger & heavier than the NXS & about the same price, depending on how hard you can shop.

MM

So what are they?

I wasn't advocating the LRHS. And admittedly, when I said I wouldn't buy a Nightforce because of price, I thought Nightforce scopes started at around two thousand.

Maybe I'll start saving my pennies to give one a try some day.

I know the big thing is the 6.5 creedmoor Rn, having owned a Vanguard S2 in 6.5 I am a fan of the cartridge. I sold the rifle because it was too heavy for my taste and I already have a heavy Bergara .308. I love the Bergara, but that rifle is 7 lbs 10 ounces sans scope. I’m looking for a complimentary lightweight rifle. I like the 7-08 because it’s a no nonsense hunting round with all the snot needed for Elk sized game. Both will do, but for the moment I’d lean 7-08. What I’ve learned here is that the Tikka is probably not what I’m looking for.

Trigger,

A deployment rifle should be a nice rifle that your grandkids will want to hunt with. GAP rifle, Fieldcraft or building a custom is in definate order. My Soldiers would buy trucks, motorcycles or a nice rifle for a reward. The rifles will get handed down and be with you for more than a lifetime.

The fieldcraft is without a doubt the nicest out of the box rifle for under 2k. 6.5 is you huckleberry for factory loaded blammo and is a great platform for a future hand loader. Throw on a 20 moa talley rail, the burris Xtreme tactical rings with another 40 moa and fixed six SS. You'll have a rock solid rifle that will leave the others lonely in the safe.

It's what you're looking for.

Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude,is never not entertaining and The Paper Hat Brigade is on fire,by simply doing their best. Congratulations?!?

A VERY wise man plainly stated,to focus mechanical advantages and The Lollipop Gang went right to Hormone Therapy and increased Estrogen Levels,instead of things that matter. They'll reliably focus Fluff and skirt both Facts and Physics,as they talk out their asses in a high pitched Nasal Whine. FUNNY schit!

Now some Do Nothing Dumbfhuqk is lauding a 150 ELD in a 7-08,at a "whopping" 2790fps. Mechanically and due nothing more than Facts and Physics,that's a .574 BC,barely limping along and Factory Kreedmire Fodder will reliably fhuqking CRUSH it,with a 147's .697 BC. Funnier yet,that she's enthralled with a Teeker and to follow suit,waxes eloquent on a Reupold 3-9x wearing CDS to boot! Fhuqking HILARIOUS Goat Fhuqk and she hasn't the 17 IQ Points requisite,to formulate a first fhuqking clue. I'll not cite,that due to nothing more than Facts and Physics,that a 7-08 fueled 180 ELD at 2600fps,sighted with a "lowly" 200yd zero,that a 6x Fixed Fhuqker's reticle alone,will get it to the 1125yd line,in this morning's atmosphere. Hint. Mebbe she'll take a swing at the mounting system too and even more oblivious humor?!? Or cite COAL,throat geometry and mag latitude,to arrange a full fledged Belly Laugh? Nawwwwwww...she ain't gonna say fhuqk all,if only because it is all beyond her "abilities". Like she's even fhuqking "seen" a 180 ELD,let alone "shot" one?!? Hint. Laughing!

Now she can say she's "seen" one. Laughing!

I rather like the 180 ELD in 7-08AI,at 2750fps too(24" spout) and binderless AICS mags. They prolly ain't shabby in a Whizzum at 2900fps+ either,Smooching happily in a Montucky's OEM box. The 260AI with 147's at 2900fps,is both sad and lonely. Hint.



The 162 'Max was THE bar for a goodly while,but the 162 ELD M and 180 ELD M,simply crush it. Ask me how I KNOW,in 7-08,7-08AI,284Win,280,280AI and 7mm Remmie. Hint.(grin)



The "vaunted" 541yd Forked-Horn Load is fhuqking HILARIOUS too! That screaming 140gr NPT at a "magical" 2870fps launch,arrives the scene(540yds) at 1807fps. The 180 ELD launched with a 2600fps start,is going that fast at the 760yd line. Hint. pardon Facts and Physics,reliably crushing STUPIDITY. Re-hint. I'd cite that the NPT Ping Pong Ball drifts 26" at the 540yd line in a 10mph full value and that is how a 180 behaves at the 700yd line. Re-Re-Hint. Ask her how she "calculates" wind,with a High Fallutin' Reupold 3-9x and that "Magical" CDS? LAUGHING! Jeezus fhuqk,you Retarded Fhuqking IDIOTS are a HOOT!!! I've not seen a 3-9X mechanical failure,since the day before yesterday. HINT. Laughing!

Should add a leetle more mechanical Facts and Physics,if only for the couple/few that is astute enough to savvy. OEM S/A Remmie mag confines,which are largely like for like with S/A Montucky 84M confines,as extrapolated to 6.5 Kreedmire 147 ELD SALAMI throat geometry and a Smooch. Hint.





Gotta kick outta the LRHS "nudge" too,by yet another CLUELESS Fhuqk that's never even "seen" one. The Do NOTHING Gang is on FIRE today! Laughing! Prolly an Illuminatti and a 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker in the frame too. Hint.



The LRHS sucks heavy ass,as compared to a "lowly" 6x MQ for Utility and/or Killing. The reticle sucks. The erector travel sucks. The illumination sucks(the whole enchilada ignites up in flames). They are a VERY poor trade of weight/length to performance ratio and if only in fairness,I cain't find anything redeeming in the parcel. Same goes The Faux NightFarce SHV's...they suck too.

I'm a touch "familiar" with the 700/MacaMillion approach and that avenue is THE best way to fly,for a L/A. Why? Mechanical attributes and the melding of that which matters most,which is twist,throat and COAL latitude,to scoot the best boolits...but I gotta have some very GOOD reasons,to jump L/A. Mainly because,S/A's routinely bolster mechanical favors,which connects dots. ES/SD,temp/mood swings,reduction in barrel heat on longer strings and longer life to boot. Might be a couple/few here. Mike Rock,Liljee,PN and HS Precision spouts....amongst others,though in fairness,there ain't too many Makers I've not got or have shot. Hint.



Do I shoot my 6.5-06 as much as my Kreedmire's? Nope. Why? They simply aren't as much fun,are longer and more cumbersome to boot. Do I shoot 260AI as much as Kreedmire? Nope. Why? Mild mannerisms and FUN,don't take much to ride herd with. For like reason(s),I shoot more 7-08 than anything .284" and offa the top of my head,only recall having shot out (7) 7-08 spouts. I've long been at ease,in trading away case capacity,to reap BC and have more than a touch of Faith in my LRF's(on my 7th one now...with #8 coming my way in the Mail). Spent primers remain THE Supreme Tutorial and it's never been difficult,to cypher who shoots...and who don't. Hint.

The 21" 1-8" Fieldcraft 7-08,more than connects all dots and is farrrrr and away,the best FC offered,as mechanics go. The 308 Ruse was pretty fhuqking funny! There is NO fhuqking way to get anything 30cal. in a 308,to hang with a 180ELD. As per always,you gotta neck the suck outta a 308,to ring the bell. Hint. BUT...if forced to start or finish with Factory Fodder,the Kreedmire wins by literal default and it ain't even fhuqking close. RE-hint.

Now the Swaro scope "endorsement" was fhuqking hilarious too! they've yet to make a boolit steering device,worth a fhuqk and given their Bean Counting Fluff Filled Ways,likely never will. It's in their DNA,to drop the ball. Hint. In fairness,the ONLY thing funnier than that,is a fhuqking Vortex! I've yet to see one of those pieces of fhuqking schit hold zero,track,repeat or not shift under zoom. Hint.

I too,have heard good things abut 'Horn rings and they assuredly have NO equal. Hint. Laughing!

Were I forced to speculate,I'd say there's a FC Kreedmire in the front seat of my crummy,stoked with 147 Smooches. There's a 7-08 on the back floorboards,with 180 ELD Smooches fed ala binderless DBM mags(Accurate's). The backseat nestles a Montucky Whizzum with 180 ELD's...6x MQ's all. A 6.5-06 is stacked back there too,with a 10x MQ and 147 Smooches. My Heavy Kreedmire is back there too,with a 10x MQ and binderless 147 ELD Smooches. Likely a Vudoo('nother should arrive in a coupla days) with a 6x MQ,prolly a Garrow Hummer wearing 6x MQ and purty certain I saw a 6 Grendel in the fray,Smooching 108 magfed ELD's,wearing a 6x MQ as well. Am always happy to give folks the first shot and/or first cast,then ring the bell and make it look easy...if only because it is,for me. Hint. Laughing!

Some STUPID Fhuqk quipped Milk Jug Montucky Kreedmire and they are epic pieces of fhuqking schit. Pard cut a corner and bought one,built a Dummy round and sold the fhuqking POS after shooting it and nabbed a FC Kreedmire instead,after shooting mine. It killed a coupla Moose last Season and he thinks it'll "work".(grin)

Easy for me to say,because I've shot/got it all and am afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess. Facts and Physics reliably upset clueless Window Licking Kchunts,which only adds to the satisfaction(s). Hint.

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!......................

I was about to ask about that Bergara. I wanted to know what you didn't like about it but I see now that you want a lighter new rifle. I wouldn't buy anything even close to weight of that Bergara for this new rifle. I would go as light as possible and then you have a choice of light to heavy weight rifles in your line up.

For that reason I would only be considering the Fieldcraft in 7-08. I would probably mount a SWFA SS 3-9HD and still be well under 7 lbs all up. A Kimber Montana would also be a good choice but I wouldn't buy a Hunter model personally and I think the Fieldcraft will be a better rifle from a better company all around.

The 3-12 is a fair bit better than the 4.5-18, IME. Yours tracking properly still, after that initial bobble?

Your Kilo 2000 croak, or you simply upgrading? My 2000 never did show me anything to get excited about, and the 2200 I have now still lags behind the LRF in my Geovid 2200 for reliable performance on various objects in various light and atmospheric conditions.

OP,

The FC in 6.5 Creed or 7-08, or the Montana in 6.5 Creed would be your huckleberry.

If I didn't reload,I think I would choose the 6.5 Creed. Good high quality ammo seems a little cheaper in 6.5 Creed VS the 7-08.

If I didn't reload, I'd go with a 7-08, but I do reload so I'd go with a 7-08.

Hey OP,
How long of a shot are you comfortable making at live game?

I guess I’m a windowlicker, then. Not sure what it means, but I have a full freezer. And I have a good time shooting my steaming piles. That’s what really matters.






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Yeah, I love reading some of our members "words of wisdom"....Its very entertaining sometimes.....👍...Hb

A beautiful custom rifle is hard to beat....but dragging it through oak brush and over rocks on steep slopes makes them ugly quick. I like more oomph in my elk rifles and would go with a standard Tikka T3 in 300 WSM. I’d put the Zeiss V4 4-14 on it with Talley lightweight mounts and have enough left over from the budget to buy a Colorado bull tag. I don’t twist turrets instead use a Z800 Reticle for shots over 400 yards. It works perfectly on my 300 Weatherby all the way out to 800 yards. The 6.5 is a nice deer rifle as is the 7-08 in my opinion elk rifles start at 30-06 or 7 mag if you hunt open country and plan to shoot past 300 yards. Flat shooting hard hitting rounds let me decide most limits on angles and distance of shots. I’m partial to ugly accurate rifles for hunting.

I build my own rifles for the most part. But if I were to want to buy one that had everything I would do if I made it myself, it's a Winchester M70. Probably a feather weight.

triggercreep -

Congrats on being debt free. Everybody starts out that way, many/most never get there again.

Can't really make any good suggestions for a mountain rifle, at least not by make/model, as I've never researched them. For cartridge, I'd probably be looking for something between a 6.5 CM and a .280AI. The 6.5 PRC would be a leading contender if a suitable rifle was available.

Happy hunting!

Jordan,

The LRHS got a touch "better" yesterday,after checking the Mail.(grin)



Reality is,I'll never have anything nearing trust in it,after it's Bat Schit Crazy erratic "tracking" behavior. I'll never forget,so will simply never have it in a situation,where I'll be left wanting. Never asked much of it,other than to simply steer 105's from my Heavy 6BR and treated it gingerly,start to finish...which mighta been a mistake. Shoulda just flogged on the bitch like everything else,punted during the puke,tossed it offa fhuqking cliff,chalked it up to experience,laughed and walked the fhuqk away. I've zero doubt that some folks got good ones and I'm happy for them,but mine isn't to be trusted and without that,is useless.

My Sig Kilo has ROCKED From Day One,as has everyone else's. No thang to slap 2700yds+ off the front porch and they'll routinely range in the realm of absolutely fhuqking AMAZING. Have some Geovids coming and if it is 75% of the Kilo,I'll be happy.

I'd prefer a 3-12x to the 4.5-18x...but simply prefer a 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker to them all. Impossible to trade away all of that erector travel,rock solid repeats and unerring zero retention,for some Fluff.

Built a 7.5" SALAMI 223 wearing 6x MQ,expressly for Lippy Fhuqkers and the only thing it is lacking,is more inclination,so as to coax even more outta the erector. 29.7 Mils in it now,from a 200yd zero,but more tilted rails are headed my way in the Mail. Thought I had another stash and likely do,just cain't locate 'em!

The platform is a Skookum Sleeper and fairly unassuming. S/S 2oz Shilen,James spout/lug,chopped from 26" to 21",Camp Run O/F R/P brass with .003" constriction,spout snugly headspaced to that 3500pc Lot(so as to build a few more,to drink outta same),Lever fueled 75 ELD M's at 2950fps,AM steel 5's for default and MDT poly 10's for Play.




Be nice to eek 39-40 Mils total outta the erector,like more than a few others cough up. Everything below zero,is 100% fhuqking USELESS.

Got a Blued/Walnut goat fhuqk coming too and it'll be funnier than fhuqk!

Film at 11:00.....................(grin)







'Clark,

Keep reiterating what I say,if only because it is the sole approach...which will allow you to be correct. You ain't no godd,"thinking" for yourself. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................






'fight,

The only things you "shoot",are your mouth and Imagination. You can go easy on perpetually reiterating same,if only obliviously. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................









'7man,

Why don'tcha' let the gent get said wares in hand and bang around a bit with 'em,before you ask questions about stuff he's never even seen or shot and how he can/will apply same. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................







'seller,

Ain't it a hoot,that Stupidity is no "act" for you and that which you factor to be guessing about,you sure as fhuqk ain't...you "lucky" kchunt?!? Hint. Congratulations?!?

Folks who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,are always gonna be best served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers",though I certainly enjoy the uproarious hilarity of you're not being able to refrain. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................










'Hillbilly,

Oh it's a fhuqk of a LOT funnier than that,for a multitude of reasons...which reliably sail over all the pointy heads and gaping mouths. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Just gotta pay some slack on the rope and let The Do Nothing Gang showcase their unbridled fhuqking STUPIDITY and admittedly,the gals are on fire here! Laughing!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................








'needs,

Holy fhuqk...I'm CRYING,I'm laughing soooooo fhuqking hard!!! Hint. Congratulations?!?

The Zeiss is a steaming pile of fhuqking schit and the SFP Z800 a fhuqking JOKE. They don't hold zero for schit,have next to nothing on the erector and the Goat Fhuqk reticle is absolutely HILARIOUS! I'd ask you what you "think" the subtention values are,but you'd just simply emit an oxygen starved Whine and drool a wee bit more on your keyboard. Dangle a picture of that piece of fhuqking schit! DARE ya'! Hint. Laughing!

Now I really don't haven't THAT much 300 Weatherby and have only had a "few",all of which are 700's for the COAL. Prefer the 300 Super,but have fireformed both 300 H&H and 300 Weatherby,to get to the Finish Line. Lemme tell you a little "secret",in that your SFP Goat Fhuqked Reticle can NOT "work" "perfectly". Now you "know". Laughing!

My newest 300 Whizzum is a POS Goat Fhuqked S/S 70 Classic Bitch stoked with 208 'M 'Smooches at 2825fps(stopped with that much '25 compression and '23 will do more favors on the next Lot). With a 250 zero,a 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker's reticle will only get the parcel to the 1225yd line,in this morning's atmosphere. Hint. The 2000yd line is only 4.5 Mils of windage holdoff. Re-hint. I tend to Warp Nine my favorite Super(PN fluted #5 10" at 26")n and it LOVES 155 Skinners Smooches at 3500fps. It suffers an aged but proven Reupold MK4 M1 10x MilDot and is only 5 Mils to 1K. 10mph 200yd full value wind chews up all 5 Mils,on the nose. A 6x MQ would get it to the 1375yd line,on the reticle alone...but I rock and roll it in this guise for Retrostalgia,mainly because it cracks me up. Google it al.. Hint. Laughing!

1000 Words.



For conversation,the bottom most rifle(Montucky 7 Whizzum),was my most recent Talley LW Puke...though in fairness,I think I've only zooked 8 sets now. Hint.




You DUMB Fhuqks are a hoot and really "know" your stuff!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!

WOW +P++!!!..................







szihn,

It's been about 3 days now,since I've dabbled a Puked Winny 70 Krassic Phetherwait 7-08. The Reupold 3-9x weren't up to snuff. The mounting system(Reupold STD's/Extended front) weren't up to snuff,nor installed correctly. 162 'M's Smooched well beyond issued OEM magbox COAL latitude and it were a steaming pile of fhuqking schit,as a whole.

Popped out the Hot Melt "bedding" attempt by the Factory,relieved the living Wood's inlet and FL bedded same. Gave the POS MOA trigger some love,removed the mag box shim to arrange 3"+ COAL latitude and buttoned 'er up. Loaded 162's fueled with '17 in positive headspaced 308 Virgins and it flunged them 162 Smooches sub 3/4",ala 6x MQ in a chopped rail.

Had to contend the great obstacles imposed with Blued/Walnut bullschit and sent 'er to the Paint Shop.



Now a gent don't gotta be plum embarrassed,whooping her out and connecting dots.

Pass the FC.

Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.......................






'Hunter,

Less is MORE. Bullets matter farrrrrrrrrrrrr more than headstamps and trigger time trumps all.

Rest fhuqking ASSURED,that with all of 'em in a heap,the Kreedmire will ALWAYS get the most trigger time,due the mild manners and because proficiency cain't be purchased,it'll simply connect the most dots by default. Hint.

Just saying.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..........................




Now you gals give it another whirl and keep doing your BEST.

Good Talk.

Laughing!.........................

I have the FC in 30-06. For me, it should be the ultimate do it all rifle. I like the larger diameter barrel (#2?), and wish the short actions came with the same.

I'd be of the same mind, if I were in your shoes. Man-made mechanics, whether they be trucks or scopes, simple don't "fix themselves" once function is compromised. Trust is earned, and until that scope is correctly inspected and repaired, I'd not have a lot of confidence, either. Unfortunately for you, your LRHS luck is hurting, as your scope is the only one I've heard of that didn't track 100% perfectly. I know of one other that failed by taking on water after spending a couple of minutes at the bottom of a river, but otherwise they've all been dead reliable. 'Course the SS 6x, 10x, and 3-9x have all been totally reliable for me, as well. Sent one 3-9x back because of an unglued turret index ring, but that's trivial. Would have glued it down myself and not bothered with sending it back, but I welcomed the offered upgrade from MD to MQ.

10-4 on the Sig. Both of my 2000's were underwhelming. This 2200 seems a bit better. Which model number is the Geovid you have on the way? I'm guessing you're gonna like it. I was reliably pinging trees and rocks out to 2080 meters a couple days ago, holding the bino freehand. The only type of object that my Kilo 2000's could range that far was shiny crap like water towers and road signs- not exactly the sort of thing I'm interested in ranging or shooting...

That new .223 is the sort of rifle that goes into the truck easy, and is tough to put back in the safe. I've got similar rigs that get a lot of trigger time; they're easy to drive tacks with, cheap to feed, and slip the wind out of proportion to the cost and noise they make.

Oh, and I'd take the top rifle in that pic without hesitation, if forced to choose. Tough to beat an accurate Montana in 7WSM lobbing 180 ELD's...

I will be taking a look at both the FC and Kimber Montana. Hard to get over the hunters plastic trigger guard. I am leaning towards the 7-08 because I don’t believe .30 cal holds a candle to what 7 and 6.5 are doing with less recoil. I should’ve went 7-08 to begin with when I bought the Bergara .308.

Hey the .308 is never a mistake. Wait a minute, nevermind. That's the .30-06.

'hntr,

Making a FC heavier and wayyyyyyy shortening it's COAL latitude,do not make it "better"...nor close. The Long Action FC's are a bust,for that very reason. Same goes a Montucky.

The 8" 21" FC in 7-08,will stomp a FC '06,due those mechanical advantages,none of which is subjective. Though in fairness,the '06 is louder,kicks harder and costs more to do less,which apparently swoons folks,for reasons I'll never fhuqking understand?!?

Prolly why I rebarreled my Montucky '06,to Six Twat-Six and throated 'er to Smooch 105/8's in the trite mag confines ala 8" Brux. Also duped contour,but reduced shank length and shortened the spout a smidge from OEM issued guise and it just got better and better,like all my other Montuckys that have received same. Hint.



That being said,I prefer to shoot my 18" Montucky 270 with 105's(Brux 8") and 20" Montucky 6BR with 105's(Bart' 8"),than the Twat-Six...because they are a bunch more fun,with obscene round counts. The Twat-Six is more of a Niche Rifle(due the chambering),though crafted in a Utility Blueprint.

270.



BR.



Mechanics tend to matter,more than a "smidge" and less is soooooo very often,sooooooooo much MORE. Twist,throat geometry and COAL,are them which matter most and "only" by lightyears,because that is what dictates which boolits can be incorporated within a platform.

Hint.

Just saying.........................







Jordan,

All the Kilo's I've seen(dozens),reliably blow minds and checks get cut,to procure same. They are stellar in than ideal atmospherics,which is a constant in these parts. Lowish ceiling now,rain and gale winds...in other words "normal".(grin)



A bunch of us drag them to work and have Shoot Off's,ranging wayward Beasties and single Waterfowl on the wing. No thang to range on the water either,which is THE most true and difficult test for any LRF. 1500yd+ crab pots are a breeze,with their small floats. couldn't begin to say enough great things about how consistently reliable they are. I sold my Leica LRF,the day the Kilo jumped outta the box and that is no schit. It wasn't even 50% of the Kilo,but it was bigger and cost more.(grin)

Leica has got sooooooooo fhuqking many Geovids out now,that the schit is hard to keep straight. I could give a fhuqk less about DOPE in my bino's( I keep it on the rifle proper,in multiple locations),so kept it more simple than that. They might arrive today or tomorrow,though I never got any tracking info...but ordered Wednesday of last week,while setting in an airport. We'll see if they are worth a fhuqk or not,but my expectations ain't pegged none too high,if only because I'm the perpetual Realist.

I cain't puke a Fixed Fhuqker,Variable or Illuminatti and try daily.(grin) A pard did yam the erector on my 18" 270 and unkchunted the indicator barrel,but I more than used a "little" glue to love it up and have been flogging on it since,less any issue(s). That particular 6x MQ,was less than 2 Mils offa the bottom,of total erector travel,which is how/why he yammed it,expecting to hit a soft stop after dialing a couple few hunnert MILS in it on a TTT eval,coming back to zero. 42.7 Mils remaining on the erector,is plum fhuqking handy! Seen it!

Glue depicted here and the scope got "wet" once too.(grin)



Top rifle was a 8mm Whizzum,in OEM guise and I've a "hunch"...that .284" prolly smokes that bore sizing too.(grin)

That rifle is a BAD Bitch!.......................









'creep,

I've never met anyone,who HATES the 308 as much as I. Nor do I know anyone,with more of 'em.(grin) They's Fair to Middlin' in a MBR,if/when talking issued guise. Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyy more than headstamps and a .308" of like capacity,cain't hang with a .284" sharing the same CC's. The .264's with 147's do nice thangs and given the reduction in mass,are of course softer shooting,when talking like BC's in other diameters,at like case capacity. One needs to step up in case capacity(launch speeds),to let the147 hang with the 180. Get the 147 going to 2900fps and it'll all but dupe the 180's drift values(they're within 2 fhuqking inches of drift value,at the 1500yd line)...but I'd much rather shoot a 7-08 at 2600fps,than a 6.5-06 or 260AI at 2900fps,because of the Fun Factor and due the fact I got 'em all and often gun 'em side by each in sheer performance extrapolations.

Happiness is yerking a 308 spout and tossing sumptin' good aboard,even a "lowly" MBR. ASC 10-rounders to the rescue,for connecting all the dots,with a 105 Hornie HPBT magfed Smooch at 2950fps. While the 108 ELD is in fact more slippery,in regards to atmospherics,the yeoman Hornie HPBT happily shirks the abuses incurred,from the trip from magbox to the throat and their lack of deformation,more than pays it back. Boolits matter.(grin)




In 30cal.there's no real answer to a fhuqking "lowly",run of the gawddamned mill 180 ELD M. The .308" 230 Sugar is right there and Sugar cites 2375fps ala 24" spout and a 3.200" COAL,none of which is happening in a FC or anything else. Neither Swampy or Walt,have anything in 30cal.,that'll approach 'em and while the 225 Hornie ELD M comes close,that 45 grains of added mass,is gonna take a fair amount of case capacity increase,to offset. The 180 ELD's are just simply fhuqking exceptional on all facets and as slickery as their billing dictates. Them Facts and Physics,routinely shake up Window Lickers. It did get purty quiet around here,mebbe they's Googlin' up some more "intel"?!?(grin) Laughing!

Mechanics ain't subjective and it's never been difficult to cypher who shoots and perhaps even more importantly,who don't.

Bless their hearts.

Laughing!....................







'74,

The less one "knows" or "does",the "better" they are. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................

My youngest son is older than you by a few years. He likes the 7600 - 270 which I gave him (he had the choice of several rifles). My older son is ten years older than him. He likes the ugly 270 I gave him more than the early 700 30-06 which I also gave him. Mostly because the 30-06 is 'pretty' while the 270 is ugly and he doesn't mind banging the 270 around.

He had his hands on a rifle I put together for a guy (who thought my asking price was too high), 270 ADL 700 with a FX2 - 6X Leupold, after market walnut stock, 2.5 lb trigger, 1/2 MOA, 5 shot 100 yards. He wants that rifle bad... He'll probably get it next September - his birthday. That whole setup cost much less than $1,000 and it would be hard to find a sweeter shooting rifle. That son is 6' 6" and that 700 has a little over 14" length of pull. For him that 270 would be the 'perfect' rifle.

I have a early 700 7mm RM that is sub MOA with all the ammo I've tried, 2.5 lb trigger, all original 'manufacture date 1963 or so" with a beautiful walnut stock and a 3x9 VX3 scope. That would seem to me to be a very good all around rifle.

But for me, I prefer a 30-06 over any other cartridge (if forced to pick just one) for a game rifle in the USA. I own quite a few different manufacturer's rifles. But I like early Remington 700's the best - function, accuracy, and fit. The scope would be a harder choice. I own mostly Leupolds, but MD wrote about the Burris Fullfield II and how tough it is, so maybe the Fullfiled II.

Other cartrdiges I'd consider for all around would include, 270, 280, 280 AI, 7mm RM, 7x57, and others in this 'power range', which is a wide range IMHO.

Excellent choice. 7mm-08 kills elk easy.











These are Tikka kills, however.




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I can honestly say out of the myriads of rifles I've seen 'Stick post through the years I don't think I ever saw one that interested me? Maybe that M1 Garand but he tainted that by saying he wanted to rebarrel it to 25-06.

That pretty much covers it.


But I still enjoy Stick's pictures though.

Spill the beans on the Geovid when you get it.

Among others, had the 7WSM Montana out yesterday banging on steel. Simply amazing how great that rifle is, as issued from the factory.

Man, ‘Stick should write for some hunting and shooting magazines, he really does have a ton of info to put out there. Either way, guess I’m going back to window licker status as I just traded into a nib 25-06 Fieldcraft that my boy’s going to use in WY this year. I was previously excommunicated from the window licker group with my Fieldcraft and NULA 7mm-08s. I guess I’ll be the only one with a 25-06 Fieldcraft, but I’m still looking forward to see how the 25-06 Fieldcraft does, which should be expectedly great.

180's?

If so, what is your load?

My 8400 is bone stock and running a 6X SS, 180's between 65-66grs of RL26 have not passed the test yet.

Yesterday was 162's, but my 180 load uses 66.5gr IMR7828ssc or 67gr R26. Running moly on everything.

Jordan,

Is your rifle factory? I thought the twist had to be 1 in 8” to stabilize the 180 ELS -M?

Bugger,

Living Wood and Blued Metal,do NOT an "all around rifle" make. Doubly so,when suffering a Reupold 3-9X,in what is undoubtedly absolute fhuqking Dog Schit Mounts/Rings. Hint. Congratulations?!?

I shot more rounds today,than that POS has seen since 1963. Re-hint. Laughing!

A 270 ADL,wouldn't take a but a second to trump,from stem to stern and all stops betwixt. Re-re-hint.

Points awarded for the Burris notion too. Here's to the unbridled HILARITY,of you doing your best!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................






'seller,

I don't have a single 7-08,that's killed more than (5) Mooses,in as many shots. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!................





'74,

Here's to the Sweet "Satisfactions",that are assuredly your's,for setting upon your couchbound kchunt and "living" vicariously,for all these years. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

If/when you finally venture Outdoors,be SURE to start a Thread and dangle some pics of them "hard charging" "pursuits",because it WILL be funnier than fhuqk! Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!................







'STUART,

It ain't even "fair",that my pics are sooooooo fhuqking good.

Laughing!.......................






Jordan,

As "anticipated" the Geovid is a steaming pile of fhuqking schit! The Sig 2K absolutely DESTROYED it!



Could only get (2) Bears in one frame,from the driveway....moments ago. Neither rated getting excited about and range to 'em was 436yds.



The Fhuqking Piece Of Fhuqking Schit Geovid,wouldn't even hit the 1000yd line,in this atmosphere...though the Sig immediately went 1755yds(top of highest treeline).



Even funnier yet,the Sig will calc a true horizontal distance,to it's limits,but the Geovid will only do it to 550 Meters. FUNNY schit! Had a FNG in tow today and I told him,that "this trip will be EXPENSIVE and straight fhuqk with your head". He kinda/sorta rolled eyes and I laughed,knowing welllll in advance,that The Vulcan Mind Fhuqk was coming. Set him up with the first poke of the morning at 599.3yds according to Mr. Kilo,whom I more than TRUST. Gave him a wind call,put the 38 Mils requisite in the erector,set up the Reupold Gen2 FFP Spotter and told him to hit the 2-ounce Shilen. He did,POA/POI intersected and I asked him how it felt to dope a 821 inch trajectory curve and slide 67.5 inches of wind(half value) in one whack?!? Miss wind by (1) MPH and it'll cost you 13.5" of deflection,which'll keep a gent on his toes and payin' attention. He's still shaking his fhuqking head and that weren't much after daybreak this AM. The Vudoo ROCKS and it seems like a 6X is more than plenty!(grin) He quit "telling" me about his 308 and it's Reupold,after that first poke and for some reason....that schit never got mentioned again. Laughing! Point bein',the fhuqking POS Geovid won't even correct Horizontal,to Rimfire Distances. Sooooooooooo gawdamned fhuqking pathetic,it's HILARIOUS!!!

In fairness,the Leeker's glass ain't horrid,but is a 2 on a Scale of 1-10,as a LRF goes and that's my being VERY gracious. It'll show angle,but then one needs to calc the dope. Though it is second nature for me to do so,it blows my fhuqking mind that this POS schit needs that much fhuqking HELP. I'll play again tomorrow,with a herd of Rock Star Batteries,I keep just for such thangs and give 'er another whirl. I liken it akin to the LRHS Scope Goat Fhuqk in Humor Quotient and they'll make an EXCEPTIONAL fhuqking pairing!(grin)

On the brightside,the Mail Gods kept smiling. Always nice to lose a crescent butt,reel in a pad and 20" of spout is plenty.



Nice to roll Carbide,lee Crimpers are always fhuqking funny,a fresh batcha' Berry's are handy and Starline pistole schit,ain't fhuqking horrid. The Ranger Point 1913 interface is skookum,I've heard good thangs about PRW rings and always wanted to try me one of them there Illuminatti's,I keep hearing about.



I figure the tried/true 20grs of '4227,will be crowding 1200fps and that'll be plenty for Giggles. If'n I knew what a Mil was,I'd say having (10) of 'em on the windshield,just might could be fhuqking handy. Be curious to see how it do,but boltgun Fodder gets the first pass this evening,as it were a rather fine day to tear through a bunch of it. FNG was slipping 75 ELD's where he wished at 1300yds+ with a 6x MQ Heavy James Bitch 7.5" SALAMI. Them Deuce Ounce S/S Shilen's shore shine brightly.



It'll get tossed in The Paint Shop and made Famous.

Fair day...............................(grin)









Capt',

A 243Win will stomp a 25-06 and a 7-08 ain't even anywhere near fhuqking "FAIR".(grin)

I prolly shot a 25cal.

Once........................(grin)





RDW,

I'm burning multiple rates,faster than '26.

I ain't lookin' back......................(grin)






'Walter,

Think in terms of GROSS RPM,not simply twist rate.

7 Whizzum Ass,will bump GROSS RPM more than a smidge,over say a 7-08...loaded to like pressure. 9" will happily do it in Whizzum,in my atmosphere,in all weathers,but I'm not talkin' Subsonic Fodder. Fact is 9.25" will do it in 7-08AI. 8" will NOT "hurt" production and will increase GROSS RPM,which will bolster both stability and BC.

Hint.....................(grin)

Yup, factory 9.5” twist. The 180 stabilizes okay, but the factory twist isn’t eeking out every last bit of BC possible. There’s an 8” twist barrel waiting to go on the Montana in the near future, which is more ideal for slinging 180’s or 195’s...

Big Stick: What Sig Kilo modell do you prefer? If you have tried them all?

OMG. 'Stick finally showed that he has at least one rifle in his collection that interests me. It was enough that it kept me from yawning at his other pictures.

But he ruins it by mounting a scope to handle 1200 fps! Get a 308! You aren't going to use a do it all rifle at ranges over 500 yards.

Speaking to calibers, I’ve killed a few deer with the .243. It is probably my favorite deer cartridge. I bought my .308 Bergara because I lucked into a bunch of Federal Premium .308 165 Gamekings. I prefer short actions for many reason, which is why the .308 family interests me. But I think the .308’s offshoot calibers are just better. .243 kills deer as well with half the recoil, and the 7-08 just isn’t fair. You stoke a high BC bullet and drive it at around 2700 and you have power for the same critters, with about 29% less recoil of the .308l. Seems like a good deal to me.

You bought the wrong Geovid.

They’re a nightmare to keep straight, but the capabilities vary widely between models that seem the same save for the model number...I recently went through a whole episode of model number confusion, trying to figure out what’s what with the vendor and Leica themselves. Fortunately, the vendor was CL, and while it took longer than I would have liked (2+ months after payment was made), they didn’t quit until they had sorted it out. Mine is a 2200 yard model, and after seeing how it performs, I’m thinking the 2700 and 3000 yard units would be impressive indeed.

Not sure how to explain the difference between my 3 Sigs and all that you’ve seen, but none of mine would hit trees and hills beyond about 1200, and even that is only in ideal light conditions at dusk and dawn. Bright sunlight would prevent my last Kilo 2000 from hitting my black truck parked sideways at 750 meters. At dusk it’d hit silver water towers at 2700 yards, but certainly nothing less reflective. This 2200 model seems slightly better so far, but the jury is still out. As I said, my Geovid gives further, more consistent and reliable readings. Scan mode is slower in the Leica, though.

Yup, a 147 6.5mm at 2700 or a 180 7mm at 2600 with minimal recoil is a VERY good deal...

I bet the sneaky bugger has a type A square bridge salted away so he can fondle it when he has a reaction to all that plastic.

I'm under the impression that the LRF capabilities are identical in these three models.....


Leica Geovid HD-R Typ 403 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars #40054 for only $1,199.99

Leica Geovid HD-R 10x42 Edition 2200 Binocular #40441 for only $1,099.99

Leica Geovid HD-B 10x42 Edition 2200 Binocular #40438 reduced to only $1499.99

Negative. The 40054 unit is 2000 yards. The others are 2200. I have the 40441 model. At least that's the best info I could gather. Even Leica doesn't seem to know much about their discontinued models.

Yeah, I'd toss the ugly scope.

I skip over all his posts/pics. His same pics over and over again aren't worth wasting the fluid under my eyelids.

Jordan,

Though I KNEW better...I too purchased from CameraLand. The "know" was/is,that NONE of them shoot anything but Imagination and Pretend. Neil answered the phone,when I ordered and I of course asked for The Leeker Rundown,but he was 100% fhuqking CLUELESS and cited me "info" from a Competitor's Website,"because it was better informed". I set for 10 minutes,listening to the Mindless Bullschit and finally said "fhuqk it...give me the more expensive one",because he could NOT begin to cite the differences. They took my loot,didn't bother to send Confirmation or Tracking and I received a piece of fhuqking schit.

Undoubtedly,I'll be stuck with it,for some bullschit "reason" and that too...is pretty fhuqking funny in advance. HINT.(grin) Typical NewYawk Bait & Switch,with mind numbing Dumbfhuqkery on the end of the line. Like they've EVER fhuqking even" used" a LRF berfore?!? Laughing! Here is HOPING,someone is fhuqking STUPID enough,to have recorded my call and brazen enough to play it back. HINT! Laughing!!!!

I managed to eek 1505yds last night,with the Leeker #40054 CameraLand "Special" and my Sig Kilo "only" trumped it by 1100yds. FUNNY schit!

So besides the Schit Info,Schit Service,Schit Shipping Expenses and Schit Sales,it were a HILARIOUS fhuqking venture!!! And folks "wonder" why I've lonnnggggggg purchased Merchandise,from ACTUAL Users?!? HINT!(grin)

"Luckily" money grows on trees...............





'74,

You suck a mean ass...if only because it's the ONLY "move" you "have". Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................






'300,

The Texas version of everything,is fhuqking HILARIOUS and there's hardly a need to "quantify" your sheer and utter fhuqking STUPIDITY. Congratulations?!?

Pardon the 1894 reaching 500yds+ flat footed,with "only" (10) more Mils on the reticle,laying in wait. Be SURE to extrapolate them Facts & Physics,to your version of "knowledge","experience" and/or "results". HINT! Laughing!

The first 75yd trio.



Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................








'creep,

Federal 165's in Three-Oh-SUCK...really suck.(grin)

I seen a .243" bore size. Once.




Hint...............





'STUART,

I don't fret my breadth of experience and am at ease in sandbagging,as you gals are in grandiose elaborations. Congratulations?!?

Sadly...I've Mousered more than even John Paul. If they were worth a fhuqk,I'd mention same,but they ain't. Pardon my being afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess.(grin)

Hint.

Laughing!.............................



'Raider,

Why is it,that you wish to perpetually reiterate,that besides being a CLUELESS Kchunt...that you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit? Congratulations?!?

Don't "forget",that you "can't read this",due your Imaginary Pretend Ignore,you MAGNIFICENT DUMB Fhuqk.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.....................









SuperKchunt,

Your inability to keep pace,is only fhuqking funnier than your "thinking" you can. Congratulations?!?

Pardon a slow afternoon here,trumping your "Life's" "experiences".

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................

Stick, you show so many redundant pics. We could only wish they were Mausers in good walnut. They'd be a lot easier to suffer.

I'm not a lever guy, but picked up a stainless Rossi in .357 a couple of years ago and have to say it's a ton of fun. Plinking steel with light loaded cast 38's from a little distance with iron sights and more than a little hold-over can lead to some high stake challenges when folks are waiting in line to shoot it. Dialing with a SWFA might have put it over the top. I need to dig it back out....

Honestly, synthetic stocked rifles may be worth owning but I'm not sure they're worth looking at?

Synthetic is highly practical. It’s not necessarily lighter than wood unless we are talking crappy injection molded stocks. But it’s impervious and durable. Walnut is beautiful but it’s getting rarer in higher grades and more expensive. The beautiful walnut stocks are actually weaker than plain stocks because the grain comes from cracks and knots, which is why stocks are prettier in the buttstock versus the forearm. The forearm is too thin to be weakened by heavy grain and *typically* gun stock blanks are selected accordingly. The curation process is long and expensive. Now that cutting down old growth forests is heavily frowned upon, high grade wood is rarer and more of a premium is placed on them. A grade of walnut blank like is on a Browning Hi-Power safari today would cost nearly as much as that rifle costs in typical condition on gunbroker.

A wood stock can be sent accurate as a synthetic, the same weight, and be much prettier... but it will always be harder to use and abuse than a tougher ,weather impervious McMillan stock.

Redundant...that describes him pretty well

That's not necessarily the case, particularly with a high quality synthetic stock. The stocks on NULAs/Forbes are way more durable than wood and only weigh 17oz finished. That's with paint and a recoil pad. The lightest wood stock I have weighed has been over twice that. The kevlar/graphite stock is actually stiffer than the barrel, which is why Melvin full length beds his stocks to the barrel.

I have never held a Fieldcraft, but I would assume they would be the same. My experience with Montana's is limited, but I would sure bet my money on their durabilury over wood. As far as weight, there's no question they're lighter than wood.

'300,

The Texas version of everything,is fhuqking HILARIOUS and there's hardly a need to "quantify" your sheer and utter fhuqking STUPIDITY. Congratulations?!?

Pardon the 1894 reaching 500yds+ flat footed,with "only" (10) more Mils on the reticle,laying in wait. Be SURE to extrapolate them Facts & Physics,to your version of "knowledge","experience" and/or "results". HINT! Laughing!

The first 75yd trio.



Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...................


So practicality to you is an ugly scope, no cheek weld, a 25 yard group you say is a 75 yard group and having 10 mils left at the bottom at 500 yards is it? Odd.

Easy to tell who’s to fat to leave the porch.



Geovids in the hands of a killer are as good it gets.

LMFAO

'74,

Facts and Physics,prolly is redundant...yet reliably sails over pointy heads. You'll haveta' pardon my being afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess,while a guess is simply the best you could ever HOPE to do. Congratulations?!?

At least Imagination and Pretend are free,so you "get" to "live" Vicariously...you "lucky" kchunt.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................





'CUBIC,

Weather started out rather stellar,this early AM and then CRASHED hard. The usual.(grin)



The Teeker with 75's,eats a paltry 6.5 Mils from a 200yd zero,to the 830yd line. A touch better than FV wind here,with a 2.5 mil correction requisite.



The Lever Long Colt,needed 5 Mils of holdoff for 425yd wind,to stay on sub 3MOA steel and 19 Mils of ele to connect said dots. AE 250's really hung well,though the Berry 250's were puking at about the 300yd line. They were corkscrewing crazily and it was funnier than fhuqk to watch,as the sun was at a nice angle to see the heels through a Gen2 Mil Spotter. To the 275yd line,the Berry's at 1225fps were Skookum. Get on the other side of 300yds and all bets were off. They are tender bitches and I'm BARELY rolling a tapered crimp,in an operation separate of seating.

Threadin' them was easy,as far as slipping atmospherics,if only because the 250 grainers fly about like my Vudoo Rimfire Fodder(the 22LR drifts a CH less,at 425yds...yet consumes a touch more erector).

HOPING someone is fhuqking Stupid enough,to get lippy and talk schit on the Lever Colt,in the flesh.

They'll get a right proper lesson,upon Facts and Physics,in the first hand.(grin)

Laughing!.......................







'creep,

Living Handles,simply can NOT begin to hang,with a Synthetic of repute. Them Facts and Physics,reliably collide with the Fantasy of Window Lickers everywhere.(grin)

I've broken a goodly smattering of Living Handles and Laminates both. From a Reliability/Accuracy/Precision standpoint,Laminates are far more adept than Living Handles,but yet pale to a good synthetic and are very tender in comparison.

Single handedly,I've personally killed over 100,000,000 bdft of Old Growth and there prolly is a certain Satisfaction,that's commensurate to that Fact.(grin)



1000 Words RINK

Wood is simply at it's BEST,when used for a fire!

Hell...I prolly even had some "weather" today.

Hint.

Laughing!!!.......................





kchuntexas,

At least Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". The Texas Version of everything,is fhuqking HILARIOUS and none can ride the pine and set in the stands like a Texan. Congratulations...you "lucky" kchunt?!? laughing!

You gals REALLY "get after it",from your Couchbound Kchunts,as you extoll your High Pitched Nasal Whine!

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!.................





'Hunter,

I always wanted to try one of them there Synthetic Stocks. I'd never even heard of FL bedding before either.(grin)

Hell...I only shoot every day,though this Kansas Climate sure is forgiving on wares!

There's a BUNCH to be said for RUGGED/Reliability and consistency.

Seen it........................(grin)









'300,

Your unrivaled STUPIDITY,never ain't fhuqking HILARIOUS...if only due the fact,that you are doing your best? Congratulations?!?

If only for starters,Practicality for me,starts with wares that'll reliably fend actual USE and a leetle thing called "weather". Google 'em both. LAUGHING!

It'll only come as a "surprise" to someone who "knows" and "does" as "much' as you,that Rick Lowe is on the hook and has one of his Skookum stock covers enroute. I prefer the pouch,over loops and rolled in accordance to said whim. Hint. Google that too. LAUGHING!

I'd be the last to question the sanctity of your heartfelt and very WELL founded Insecurities,because you are forced to suffer your version(s) of "means","abilities" and "comprehension",as a barometer of "evaluation". The Texas version of EVERYTHING,is fhuqking hilarious...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Laughing!

PS and by the way,I have it on purty good authority,that an Illuminatti do in fact have 10 Mils on reserve,lying in wait upon the windshield,mechanically separate from any/all erector travel. Hell...it might could even have 10 more each way,for windage slippin' too?!? Google it. LAUGHING!

Now you be SURE to set astride your Couchbound Kchunt,ride the pine and rattle your Pom-Pom's,while TRYING to "convince" yourself,that you "could too". I'm fhuqking cryin'...I'm laughing sooooooooooooo hard!!!!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!

Wow +P++!.........................







Peckerpole Princess,

That REALLY is a "magnificent" specimen and has certainly gotta be crowdin' a "whopping" 17-3/4" of yet to be dried Noggin'...you "lucky" kchunt. There's NEARLY enough hide there on that Toddler,to re-upholster a toilet seat! Congratulations?!?

Ain't it a fhuqking HOOT,that proficiency cain't be purchased and how reliably fhuqking HILARIOUS,your best efforts are?!!!?

Got CL on the horn,explained the Geovid Goat Fhuqk(they'll NEVER savvy,because they don't shoot) and was treated exceptionally. I mused a return of said Geovid Goat Fhuqk and an "upgrade" to the 10x #400049 version('nother 300 CLAMS BFD,the schit grows on trees),after Doug tried to tell me about their abilities. My concern for farrrrrrrrrrrrrr greater EHR capabilities,was reiterated as being accomplished through said upgrade,but I were of course dubious. A call to Leica direct,confirmed said shortcoming(s) and denoted that it's EHR was only actuated betwixt the 100 and 850yd line,which is wayyyyyyyyyy fhuqking dismal(useless for Archers and Riflemen both). So I called CL back,explained that info and of course had to pass on the whole line up,because NONE of them will do what a Sigo Kilo does. Hint. Now you "know" too. LAUGHING!

Boxed up,taped up and secured it through and through,so off to the P.O. I go,to get the ball rollin' only minutes ago. Only saw (3) Bears,that are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger than The Rat Fhuqked DINK you dangled,betwixt the porch and P.O..

(1) of which is in this frame and the weather mighta turned a corner,before I was outta the driveway. Now you can say you've "seen" a Protech Calmigo too...you "lucky" kchunt. It shore would be nice,to roll Bino's with a Mil Scale in 'em! Google it all. Laughing!



Coupla hunnert yards later,I "only" saw (2) more,that crush your Rat DINK. Hint.



Pardon the fact,that I've passed over (50) Bears on this tear alone,as you swoon your "abilities" and "results". Sorry that my scraps,exceed your wildest fhuqking DREAMS. Hint. LAUGHING!

Few thangs is fhuqking funnier,than letting a Peckerpole Princess get a glimpse at perspective...if only because it's as close as she'll EVER fhuqking "get" to Magnitude. At least Imagination and Pretend are free,so you've "got" that "going" for you! Hint. Laughing!




Mebbe wax eloquent,on how Juvenile Rat DINK is a "color phase" and the "satisfactions" that accompany such a "conquest".

Bless your heart.

You AMAZINGLY Inept Clueless Fhuqks are on fire!!!

LAUGHING!......................

I guess if you live in a rainforest you would need synthetic. For most of us wood does just fine. That fact always manages to sail over your pointy head.

Sugar tits color was more a need than bragging rights.
You just holler and I will get the crew to build you an ADA ramp so you can wheel your fat diabetic ravaged body off the porch and back in the hunt.
😂😂😂😂😂

PS
New lady? or Kimber go with a less purple.

Photos of bear from the skinny days. Are always tff

FYI, the Geovid 40049 does EHR to 1200 yards, not that it matters...

From Leica’s website:

Distance measurement Range
10 m up to approx. 2.000 m/10 yds to approx. 2.200 yds

Equivalent horizontal range (EHR)
10 yds to 1,200 yds / 10 m to 1,100 m

Measuring accuracy
± 1 yds / m to 547 yds / 500 m
± 2 yds / m to 1,094 yds / 1,000 m
± 0,5 % beyond 1,094 yds / 1,000 m

Invest? Well that leads to buying somthing of future value...not the latest fad craze...if i wer in your position I would build a pre64 mod 70 in 280 or 30/06 and go kill [bleep] ...maybe an l61 R sako....

270, 308 or 30-06 will do just about anything you don't need a specialized rifle for. You could do a Springfield with a Maple stock in 280AI, that would be cool.

I thought the idea was to get a lighter handier rifle than the one he already has. And in a chambering that might have less recoil to offset the lightweight rifle.

And an investment doesn't always equal a safe queen that you hope will become more valuable in the days to come.
The "benefit" could come in the actual use and enjoyment of what was invested in. In this case the plan may be to never sell the rifle as it would be enjoyed for a lifetime.

Always nice to get hunting advice from a guy who can float over rock while carrying A black bar on his shoulders.

The point is a light rifle: and I’ve settled on the Barret FC and Kimber Montana as the two I’m going to handle once I’m home. If I find one in 6.5 Creed or 7-08 I’ll take either. But if enemies up handling one in another caliber and liking it, I’ll order a 7-08. If I want a heavy CRF rifle I will by all mean a scratch that itch at a later date. I’ve had and sold a few (grin). But I think I’m on the right track now. Start handloading some Hornady ELD-X’s.

You’ve read about “Kimber roulette,” right?





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I wouldn't let that game keep me from a new Montana if that's what I really wanted. On the other hand,unless I just had to have CRF and a safety that locked the bolt,I would buy the Fieldcraft knowing I would have a better chance at great accuracy and knowing I would have excellent CS if needed.

On the other hand, if the safety and CRF were positives to you, one could buy and rebarrel a Montana for about Fieldcraft money...

'74,

Ain't it a rather not so fhuqking curious "coincidence",that no matter the Outdoors Topic...you've ALWAYS gotta guess? Congratulations?!? Laughing!

The only thing you "shoot",is your mouth and Imagination. Folks who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,are always gonna be best served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers". If I take the time to say it,you'd heed well,to write it down and simply apply it. I'm afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess. Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...........







Peckerpole Princess,

Rat Fhuqking Dinks ain't a "color",it's a perpetual plight and them differences are beyond "stark". Hint. Congratulations?!?

This is a color.

Hint.




So is this.

Hint.




As is this.

Hint.




No need for you to perpetually reiterate obliviously,that STUPIDITY is The Gift that keeps on "giving". A slow afternoon on a midweek day for me,trumps your whole "Life's" "experiences" and you've an uncanny knack to fuel that fire,by doing your best...you "lucky" kchunt. Extoll a bit more,on the Sweet "Satisfactions" of incredibly LOW "standards" and The Art Of The Excuse. LAUGHING!

Wow +P++!

Bless your heart,you Rat Pounding "hard charger" you.

Laughing!.................






Jordan,

I can only know what Dave at Leeker USA related to me,over the phone and he didn't sound like he was guessing...because I sure as fhuqk re-asked to verify!(grin)

1250yds of EHR,will almost reach the Transonic Slip of a 75 ELD in a 20" 22 Grendel,in this morning's atmosphere.(grin)

It is a Constant Leeker theme,that their "system" is a straight up Goat Fhuqk,in regards to intel/communication. Their CS is reliably a Schit Show too and am suplized,that a coupla pards haven't burned them down by now.(grin)

Pretty funny schit,even when it's my money!....................







'rifleco,

As per your version of "knowledge","experience" and "results"...PLEASE wax eloquent on Krassik '70 "advantages". You'll prolly wanna be REAL fhuqking careful,as I just "mighta" seen one "once". Hint. LAUGHING!

Same goes the Sako L61R Ruse. Re-hint. Re-LAUGHING!

Facts and Physics ain't "fads",nor is Mechanical Superiority. Re-re-hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................







't300,

The Texas version of EVERYTHING,is fhuqking hilarious! Congratulations?!?

Stupidity is never a building block,despite it being the only fhuqking "move" you've "got". Hint. Laughing!

Springfields are EPIC pieces of fhuqking schit and the Maple nudge fhuqking HILARIOUS,simply because you are doing your best!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!................






Dollar',

Spent primers remain THE Supreme Tutorial and it's never been tough to cypher,who shoots...and who don't. That's why these fhuqking Threads are ALWAYS 100% Hilarious,because The Window Lickers are always tryin' to roll the Ruse,that they've a clue. Though of course,nothing could be further from Reality. Hint.

A good handling,svelte and well balanced platform,that is wearing rings/bases of repute and glass that'll steer boolits,tend to ACTUALLY get fhuqking used. Conjoin same,with the best boolits in da' bidness,align throat,twist and COAL latitude...then there's nothing left to reach for. Very easy to have it all and then some,right over the fhuqking counter,as rifles go. Hint.

Bless their hearts.

Laughing!...........






Dre,

Having copious reserve horsepower on tap,has yet to hurt production.

Seen it!

Laughing!...................







'creep,

The FC and Montucky are lightyears apart in mechanical aptitude,if only to cite the obvious,yet fhuqking again. Hint.(grin)

A Montucky will NOT align twist,throat and COAL within an OEM 84M platform...mainly because it simply can NOT. Re-hint.

Flipside being,the FC will do that in every S/A offering and especially in 264 Kreedmire and 284-08. Re-re-hint.

1000 words on a SALAMI 264 Kreedmire's throat(they crowd .200" freebore by "design"). With a 147 ELD(best boolit in da' bidness),you will pole vaulting to lands. Same goes the relationship in 7-08 and worse yet,308. Re-re-re-Hint.

OEM 700 box for extrapolation,which correlates to a Montucky 84M as well. I'm purty "sure" that a Kreedmire cases just "happens" to be of less length than a 260,7-08 or 308(amongst others of the lineage). Though with a thunk to throating,in regards to a Custom Rifle,one can certainly Smooch 180 ELD's in a 7-08 SALAMI chamber and easily nestle binderless AICS DBM mag confines. Hell...there might even be one pictured. Re-re-re-re-Hint.(grin)

147 ELD M,162 ELD M and 180 ELD M pictured,of course.



1000 Words on Kreedmire throating and a 147's location of same,which will ofcourse whistle through an OEM FC...but never come even fhuqking close in 84M. Re-re-re-re-re-Hint.



How's about a 147 ELD M,162 'Max(latest reiteration),162 ELD M and a 180 ELD M,for a side by each extrapolation?!? I wonder which wears the .796 BC? Laughing! Re-re-re-re-re-re-Hint.



Long story short,there's prolly a "little"to be said,for keeping Facts and Physics in a hip pocket,as well as the Mechanical Advantages of aligning twist,throat geometry and COAL...if only because nothing matters MORE,mechanically. Re-re-re-re-re-re-re-Hint.

So as a "decision" goes,there's no fhuqking "choice" to make,because it is soooooooooooo very black and white,from the Mechanical aspect. Which is again why,both the 84L and FC L/A are schit choices and I've a "hunch",that I'm prolly not "guessing". Re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-Hint.

The Barrett 7-08,simply STEALS the fhuqking Show,like no other...none of which is "subjective" and simply predicated upon Facts and Physics,along with the Mechanical Trio of twist,throat geometry and COAL latitude.

You've been led to water,but I DO think it's funnier than fhuqk,when folks stay parched instead.(grin)

HINT.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..................






'seller,

I've shot over 50 Montuckys and have yet to see a "bad" one...though in fairness,Joe Average ain't very fhuqking bright,as you ohhhhh sooooooooooo eloquently attest. Congratulations?!?

I've heard good thangs,about Starting At The Fhuqking Start. Though rifles do talk,nobody listens and I VERY much enjoy a good Drooling Dumbfhuqk Whine,about how sumptin' as simplistic as a boltgun,whooped someone's ass.

You Window Licking CLUELESS Fhuqks are a RIOT!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..................







'Clark,

Banking upon Facts and Physics,coupled with Mechanical Integrity ascertained ala twist,throat and COAL latitude...is THE furthest thing away from "chance". Congratulations?!? Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.....................







pointer,

I've a few Montuckys and it'll always take a rebarrel,to align twist,throat and COAL latitude. While one could opt an AICS DBM and drive binderless mags,it will STILL be wellllllllll shy of FC COAL OEM mag latitude. Hint.

No thang to stay the course in .224 and 6mm,but once you reach .264" bore sizing,boolits get purty long and while one could short throat,I'd simply MUCH prefer to have the COAL latitude on tap from the start...along with RPM and throat geometry.(grin)

In 223,223AI,22 Grendel,6 Grendel,22-250,22-250AI,22 Kreedmire,270,6 Kreedmire,6BR,243 Win and 243 AI...the Montucky 84M seals the deal. No thang to throat in accordance,to connect all dots.

Hell...I've seen me do it.(grin)

Laughing!.......................

Trouble is if you buy a Montana or a Fieldcraft all you have is a Montana or a Fieldcraft. And that sucks! I'd put my money into a Winchester model 70 Featherweight and then you have something worthwhile. Something that's even worth posting a picture of unlike the stuff Big Stick bores us with.

Wow...just wow.

To the OP, a lot of the blather you get in posts like this is from people who think if you can't put three rounds touching at 200 yards or if you can't bang steel at 1000 meters then your rifle isn't worth what you paid for it. As much truth as has been posted in this thread, determine your needs. Heck, most $300-$500 guns with a properly functioning scope will be more accurate than most shooters' capabilities. I don't mean to rain on anybody else's parade because Lord knows I've used about everything listed in this thread. Just don't feel like you are inferior because some know-it-all on an internet forum says "it's either 'x' or it isn't worth squat".

All depends if you want something that is pretty to look at in photos, or if you are looking for a hunting tool to poke holes in game. There's nothing prettier than a nice piece of quality walnut, but I got tired of having to baby the things because I didn't want to scratch them. I had a hard time dropping $1,200 on my Forbes in 2013. Since then, I've never looked back. Funny thing is the uglies often shoot better. Balance, weight, durability, consistency, and ruggedness far surpass the favorable cosmetics of walnut for a hunting tool, particularly when your belly crawling over shale and through cactus.

Thats for people that can’t shoot.

Poor sugar tits trying to bitch herself happy over a pair of binos she could not afford anyway. 🤭😀
Sad sniveling gash wouldn’t have nothing if a bunch of kelp didn’t washing up daily.

I dunno about that, I’ve read quite a bit here on the ‘fire about very competent riflemen and Kimbers that won’t feed or eject.





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Very true...Poor accuracy is only one of the many Kimber issues you might run into ....If you want to take a spin at the Kimber roulette wheel ♠️♣️♥️♦️....I know this from experience 😁....Hb

Well i have a few Model 70 Fwt's and I'll tell ya what. After shooting my kimber 6.5CM, they're not going to see much field time. Range time...yes.

No need to put down someone's choice in rifles .

I tell you what those charts Stick put out were eye opening. He went thru a lot of effort and $$$$ to generate that information.

See just how quick the Stick deteriorates. If you want some cookie cutter rifle you have to tape up take his advice.

Fieldcraft 6.5 getting stretched out.

Well I just found this thread and slogged my way through all seven pages. I've been contemplating a very similar acquisition to the OP and have researched it to death. My budget is not quite what the OP's is but I think the Fieldcraft, the Kimber (Montana or Hunter) would be fine guns (clearly I'm not as worried about Kimber roulette as some seem to be). I too want a light(er) rifle but there's good evidence that real lightweights tend to be more finicky about ammo and maybe even more difficult to shoot. So I'm wondering how light is light. Where is the sweet spot between a 5.5 lb. Finicky Flyweight and a 7.5 lb. Hefty Hitter? I'm also wondering why no one suggested the Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather SS as an option? It's a solid rifle with a great stock, but weighs 6 lbs. 12 oz. in 7mm-08 which may be heavier than the OP is looking for.

'74,

You AMAZINGLY Inept STUPID Fhuqk...cite the '70 FWT that'll connect FC dots. Lemme' give you a "HINT"...it don't fhuqking exist. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

If only to reiterate.

Hint.

Laughing!



Rest ASSURED,that 3"+ COAL FC,has no fhuqking equal,especially as compared to a POS fhuqking '70.

Now you "know".

PLEASE continue,with your fascinating Vagina Monologue,amazingly long list of WELL founded Insecurities and that High Pitched Nasal Whine. Laughing!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.....................





tomk,

Ohhhhhhhhhh...it's a fhuqk of a LOT funnier,than that...........................(grin)






TheBitchingSniveler,

Ain't a hoot,that Facts and Physics are reliably the most disconcerting,to Do Nothing Dumbfhuqks...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

The LESS one "knows" or "does",the "better" and "same" everything is. The only fhuqking things you "shoot" are your mouth and Imagination.

Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.............





Carolina',

Rugged Reliability,is soothin' like no other comfort,if one actually USES wares.

I can rather like same in pics too and Splendid Beasties is always eager to appear in Spledid Pixels.(grin)



Always.



Always.



Thinkin' about putting Vudoo 2 in this handle,for double The Glory.

Laughing!



Thoughts?

Won't even be fhuqking "fair"......................(grin)






tzone,

Kinda like Bigfoot. There's alotta STUPID Fhuqks who are "convinced" they've "seen" one...but pardon my knowing better.(grin)

Were there sucha thang,I'd of had countless scalps.

Hint.

Still buying "Bad" Montuckys........................(grin)





Peckerpole Princess,

In The Land Of Lowwwwwww "Standards"...everything is "good". If I schit in a Ziploc and wrote "FREE!" on the side,you'd gather it up and swoon same...you "lucky" kchunt. Congratulations?!?

Be sure to state what it is you "do" for a "living" and how "much" it "pays",which makes everything sooooooooooo "expensive" to you. Cheer up...EVERYONE "knows" a Cutter. LAUGHING!

I remain fairly certain,that having a laser that'll at least keep pace with one's Rimfires,prolly won't hurt production. But at least Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to Dream and look at pics.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.......................





'seller,

I've yet to see anyone with a Fhuqking Clue,get whooped by a boltgun. Now lotsa STUPID Fhuqks reliably do and them differences are beyond "stark". Congratulations?!?

I've easily fixed boat loads of 'em,from a diagnosis from 1000's of miles away and made it look easy...if only because it is(for me). Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!....................








'billy,

Them who "know" as "much" as you,are always farrrrrrr better served by asking questions...rather than giving "answers". Hint. Congratulations?!?

I never know which is fhuqking funnier,your obliviously quantifying same,or the silence. Decisions,decisions? LAUGHING!

Feel free to cite the amazingly long list of rifles,that've whooped your ass. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...........................







elkchunt,

You suck a mean ass. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.....................






'300,

Like YOU could "afford" the tape?!? Congratulations?!?

The Texas version of EVERYTHING,is fhuqking hilarious! What is it like to house a raging river of Estrogen,betwixt your quivering lips and trembling fingers...you "lucky" kchunt? Do tell,if only because it's the ONLY thing you could begin to answer in the first hand. Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!......................






Mike,

I feel your pain.(grin)

Hell...it takes a wee bit of Real Estate to coax 700yds outta a "lowly" 22LR!



I hear through The Grapevine,that a FC 264 Kreedmire and a MQ Fixed Fhuqker,will gobble up some Real Estate on the windshield alone.(grin)

You are in TALL cotton....................................




Fair,

If you are stumped after an unequalled crystalline correlation of Facts and Physics,you are obviously a STUPID Fhuqk. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Wow +P++!

Laughing!..........................

Same old Same old. Some things never change, what a sad life.

Maybe, but that man has spent some serious coin on firearms and associated goodies.

A point I made earlier , he knows his stuff for sure.

Poor sugar tits.

What model was your discount bin binos??

Maybe Doug likes you as much or more than I and sent you the really good stuff just so you could try to bitch yourself happy. LMFAO.



It was a long fall but you-z getting up and dusting the stink off is cute.

PS how many kills you got in 18 not counting shooting fish with the mirror as a rest 😉

Those plastic stocks have no soul.
And the welfare recipient, drug pushing,
gang affiliated, idiot who 'tagged' them,
keep your day job. You have no future as a painter.

Were I hunting in a wet miserable place like that I would be using tupperware and stainless as well, but fortunately I do not have to so can sleep easily.

nice

All that proves is he is a materialistic psychopath rather than just a psychopath.

Poor retarded sugar tits you always leave those dink bucks for day light. Skiff of snow says it laid for a while. Shooting them in the dark and waiting for day light(glory pics) 🤭😉😂
Must been a task getting your fat ass the 50 yards from the truck in such adverse conditions.

How long has Leupold sucked? seems it’s been at least that long sense you actually made a kill.



They always look bigger once they start blotting. Hint. 🤭

WhatTheFuk is Blotting? ( do You mean Bloating? .....yeah, sho' as [bleep] You do )

Are you really that [bleep]' Stoopid?

JFC, Google and SpellCheck like a ThirdGrade Level......................

Whilst I am not a fan of fredIII I did take the opportunity to peruse some of your posts, you may want to partake of your own advice.

BigStick aka Bitchin' Sniveler aka Boxer,
Ouch! That was a pretty innocuous post I had to be subjected to the cutting edge of your rapier wit. I think you hurt my feelings. I hope you are well.

TheBigSky

Spend all day spell checking could really care less here. But thanks for reading and noticen

All them spot light kills need the eyes covered. Hint. Ain’t that right sugar tits hides the eyes.

WhatTheFuk is Blotting? ( do You mean Bloating? .....yeah, sho' as [bleep] You do )

You forgot the period. Good job! I fell so violated 😂 .

elkchunt,

Of course it's the SAME old schit. You are going to set on your Couchbound Kchunt,Whine and talk out your ass. Congratulations?!?

What happened to your Imaginary Pretend Ignore? Did you forget about it,yet again? Ain't it a hoot,that besides being a Whining Clueless Fhuqk,you also just "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit to boot? Laughing!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................





'STUART,

I still cain't figure out how come my peectures are just ohhh soooooooo fhuqking spectacular?

Laughing!....................





Peckerpole Princess,

Why is it the only good pics in "your" album,are mine? Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!

Have I ever puked a Reupold? Yep. Is the scope pictured,one of 'em? Yep. Have I ever puked LW's? Yep. Is the set pictured,one of 'em? Yep. Have I ever shot out a barrel? Yep. Is the one pictured,one of 'em? Yep. Cheer up,that receiver don't have much more than 15,000rds on it and it prolly won't be long,'fore it needs another spout.

I've never not seen a rifle get MUCH improved,with the introduction of a superior mounting system and superior boolit steering device. At least you can "afford" to read about it...you "lucky" kchunt. Laughing!

Hint.



There's no slighting just how VERY badly you need your Imagination and it's Pretend,when fraught with suffering your "means","abilities" and "comprehension"...conjoined with your "results". You "hard chargers" really are hell on Rats and fhuqking Dinks! LAUGHING!

The best way to make a Splendid Beastie "look" big,is to simply shoot a Splendid Beastie. At least you can "live" vicariously through pics,as you TRY to "convince" yourself,that you "could too". Laughing!

Hint. Now you "know". LAUGHING!



What do you "do" for a "living" again? Happy to see/hear there's "opportunities" for the Mentally Challenged. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!............................





Dealingsuck,

How very enthralling,for you to wax eloquent on your Pavemount Pounding Ghetto Ways...as you rightfully Whine,in regards to your very WELL founded list of Insecurities. Congratulations?!?

I'm unfamiliar with paint. LAUGHING!




I MUCH prefer the warmth and unequalled protection of Blued/Walnut. LAUGHING!





Looking forward to your next Estrogen fueled Whine,as you shoot your mouth and Imagination,from your Couchbound Kchunt.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!........................





'74,

If I'm curious about wares,I simply procure,R&D and flog on 'em in extrapolation,to others of the ilk. I'm simply afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess...while a guess is always the "best" you can "do". Congratulations?!?

You Whining CLUELESS Fhuqks are a hoot!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!........................







'Nugitz,

Do NOT tease her,nor swipe her Imagination or Pretend...if only because it is all that she "has".

Bless her heart.

Laughing!...........................






TheBitchingSniveler,

It simply remains a shame,that you are devoid the 17 IQ Points requisite,to be able to comprehend your INCREDIBLE Dumbfhuqktitude. Congratulations?!?

You suck a mean ass...you "lucky" kchunt! Looking forward to your next Whine,as you wax eloquent on your perpetual Vagina Monologue.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.............................

BigStick, aka Boxer, aka BitchingSniveler (See what I'm doing there?),
Stop picking on me (see what I'm doing there? I'm trying to give validity to your posts). Thanks for blessing my heart. 17 IQ points? That's kind of harsh don't you think? Be well and have a great day.

LOL...you are not worth being put on ignore, I love seeing your nice little pictures of phag painted rifles. I also like the 20 year old dead animal pictures, you photoshop window licker you. Keep them coming , your life is a lie

It’s glow in the dark paint, old sugar tits is known for buck hunting in the early AM hours. Set a gun down in the dark and try to find it! those bright colors are a must for his style of killing. Hint. LOL.
Hats off to the fat guy with a good spot light. 🤭😂

PS someone tells all your secrets sugar tits. Geovids ain’t worth a [bleep] in the dark.

Good thing he is where he is , he might have to seriously endure ridicule with those phaggot painted rifles of his anywhere else. Old pictures Old news No Life, Same Old Same Old.

sweet jesus, the resident lazy lying fuucking bushelor rears her cock eyed turkey gobbler face again!!! I hear shes got quite a fan club club of 20 year old mouth breathing window lickers she impresses daily.... Perty funny, all the "pards" kinda grew up up and are doing their own thing now... We just might have the next Anthony Bordain dain, fresh outts "pards", wife, and his own boy cain"t stand him... HAHA congradulations Larry, you win!!!! .......... Naw, just shiitin ya, but you knew that... Grin

You can say what you want about me. But if all rifles were like your rifles I'd find the hobby too boring to engage in. And I shoot plenty but mainly handguns. You wouldn't know what to do with a gun you couldn't fit one of those butt ugly SWFA's on. I shoot using open sights. Maybe you've heard of them? I realize they aren't your forte.

TheBitchingSniveler,

You "do" the ONLY fhuqking thing available to your "means","abilities" and "comprehension",which is to frantically follow my every word,gawk my every Splendid Pixel and wax eloquent on your Vagina Monologue...you "lucky" kchunt. What other "move" do you "have",besides NONE. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Ain't it a fhuqking hoot,that even someone as incredibly fhuqking STUPID as you,KNOWS better than to try and open her quivering lips and say anything about The Outdoors?!? Funny schit and I mean fhuqking FUNNY!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!....................






Oldelkchunt,

You are welcome to laude your heartfelt Insecurities,as you yet again come outta the closet. Congratulations?!?

I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that your much vaunted Imaginary Pretend Ignore is of less than zero substance. THE Window Licking Mantra is simplistic,in regards to you Whining CLUELESS Kchunts...when it's all said and done,there will have been a fhuqk of a LOT more said,than "done". LAUGHING!

You "hard chargers" are a hoot!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!........................





Peckerpole Princess(es),

What was the "odds" of The Do NOTHING Gang setting on the sidelines,just HOPING for a glimpse of the action,as they try to "convince" themselves that they "could too"? Congratulations?!?

Cheer up...everyone "knows" a Cutter. LAUGHING!

Points is always awarded,for being blasse' with Splendid Beasties,as if it happens all the time...if only because it happens all the time. Hint. laughing!



Hell...maybe one of these days,you Whining Clueless Kchunts and get "your" first camera. Nice to shoot a little backlight,on Splendid Beasties. Hint. Laughing!



You gals keep riding the pine and rattling pom-pom's.

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!......................





'74,

There's NO need to "explain" your INCREDIBLE Dumbfhuqktitude,let a way to "rationalize" same. The only fhuqking things you "shoot",are your mouth and Imagination. Hint. Congratulations?!?

I am "unfamiliar" with Iron Sights,PLEASE "tell" me "more". Now you can say you've "seen" one...you "lucky" kchunt. LAUGHING!




That no matter the radius. Hint. LAUGHING!



ALL "new" to me. LAUGHING!



You Whining CLUELESS Kchunts are a fhuqking RIOT!

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!.............................

Looks like another thread down the poop shoot

You poor dumb sonafabitch, who in the fuuck holds a blade like your really doin something???? Haha dig the retro 15 year old pic!!!

You festering bowl of goo, where’s the 20 year old cheer camp speaking of sidelines??? You REALLY got it going on up on the Rez you lucky bitch you!! Haha

I was thinking pathological sociopath.

Sounds about right.

He’s the only one in his crew that can buy beer. 😂😂😂😂
Poor sugar tits.

Uhhhh, look, I have a knife!!!! What a ignorant kchunt!!! Haha

Just can’t make this shiit up.....

Dre,

Perception is everything and very few have the faculties to savvy the actualities,as you obliviously attest. Congratulations?!?

The heartfelt Whining of The Do Nothing Gang,has less than zero influx upon the bearing of Facts and Physics,as applied to Mechanical Attributes. Though of course they "think" it does,which is why this schit is ohhh sooooooooooooooo fhuqking reliably HILARIOUS! Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...............






Peckerpole Princess(es),

Pardon the poignant profundity of my influence,controlling your every thought,conversation and action. Do not "forget",that Imitation is the MOST Sincere form of Flattery and I'm happy to occupy such a large percentage of your "life",as you flounder in your Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Maybe wax eloquent on just how many times you think of and/or mention me,in a typical day,then extrapolate same to round count and take note of the ratio. Hint. LAUGHING!

"Sorry" about all of my Splendid Pixels filling up "your" albums,but none could fault Whining Kchunts for shooting for the stars and trying to get a piece of the action. Pun be intended...you "lucky" kchunts. LAUGHING!



Don't "forget" to add some action,if/when you "hard chargers" can pool enough jingle,to go "halfsies" on your first camera. LAUGHING!



Looking forward to the next Whine and a fresh scoop of Nothingness,courtesy of you gals doing your Absolute BEST. Hint.

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!...........





'300,

I'm happy to "be" whatever you NEED most,to salve the reality of your Do Nothing Dumbfhuqktitude...as you "live" vicariously. Congratulations?!?

Be sure and fire up a Thread on The BIG Day,when your kchunt actually leaves the couch. Dangle one of "your" pics too. Dare you. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..............







'74,

You were flapping your quivering lips there for a spell and had your trembling fingers coerced into "telling" me about Pistoles and the like. 'Tis a shame that you ran outta Bravery and buckled like The Whining Kchunt that you are. Hint. Congratulations?!?

It would have been fhuqking HILARIOUS,had you "tried". HINT.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!......................

Bam!!!!! Bout like a kelp fed beach bear!!! Naw, trappin moles takes a little more savvy..... grin


Was gonna add a nice blade to the pic but I didn’t want to horn the lying fuuck up!!!


PS, uhhhhhhh I got a knife!!!!! Look it’s a knife!!!! Haha what a shovel headed dummy!!!! Lmfao

Old sugar tits ain’t smart enough to push the tall button on a set of geovids. 🤔 . LOL.
Poke poke fat man. 😂😂😂😂

He likes the 40 yo technology of the elusive “ziess classic”, but hey, he’s got a knife he likes to show everyone!!!! Haha

I can hear it now, “dear mr Ingram, I killed this 72” gross buck, I’m gonna try to work it up with this handy dandy knife you sent me, I’ve been led to water, I’ll thank you later, you told me so, now can I get my tongue outta your ass, your dear little lying lazy bushelor....

Judwoman,

Are ya blind or can you not see that nothing in your mole pic is in focus? As usual...doing your best.

Smokingkchunt, you suckass you!!! You are quite the hardass!!! Haha

A do nothing kill nothing fangirl of the fat [bleep] pokes his head out of a lap to let us all know the pic is out of focus. TFF durrrr!!! 🤣
Smoke next time you make the over night to the res. Be sure to practice the 20 year old kid lingo before landing the cheer squad will just confuse your busted ass if you don’t. LOL 💋.
I would elaborate but you and sugar tits must really have a special bond. 💕😂😉

Easy now, I do enjoy the avatar pic of the 3 point on the single wide mobile home wood paneling!!!! Haha

Those boys back east really get after the big game hunting!!!! Lmfao

Who is "Peckerpole Princess" anyway?

I’m thinking fred and I??? I’m just hoping he’s not treating the 20 yo cheer camp up there, like a fellow with the same name but 20 years older is treating cheer camps down in coos bay/north bend.....

Geez, that was easy. How much trouble can it be to focus?

Where I hunt, that buck on the wall is a 8 point. It's not huge but it ain't tiny either. It's a crossbow kill right here in the woods behind my houses. And picking on my paneling is low, but that's you doing your best.

triggercreep, Go ahead and get you a Fieldcraft 6.5CM and don't look back, you won't regret it.

OK. Just making sure it was a real poster here and he wasn't interjecting his invisible sleeping bag buddy into our discussion.

You might well shut your cock holster, sit back and learn... sucking ass does no good fan boy... hint

Hint! https://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/17-tips-for-taking-tack-sharp-photos

Thestupidsmokingcunt, it’s a pic of a mole you stupid dink killin fuuck.... hint

Peckerpole Princess(es),

It is a HILARIOUS fhuqking constant,that you Drooling Dumbfhuqks are sooooooo very easily stumpoed,with your "means","abilities" and "comprehension"...as quantified by your "results". Hint. Congratulations?!?

VERY "impressive",that you Whining Clueless Kchunts have gotta swoon Rats,Dinks and "capture" the "moment" with Crayola's upon a dirty window. The "Bear" that hasn't enough surface area upon it to make pajama's for a 3yr old,is fhuqking HILARIOUS,as is the "hero pic" "photography". VERY much enjoyed the notion,that you gals "think" that you can "talk" optics too,if only because the only good pics in "your" albums are mine. Hint. LAUGHING!

1000 Words.



Now you can say you've "seen" one...you "lucky" kchunts. Pardon the Splendor. LAUGHING!



Perspective,never ain't not interesting. Hint. Pardon the splendor. LAUGHING!



Sorry about the knife. Hint. LAUGHING!




Oopsie!...on something as something simplistic as a Real World critique by me,setting the Market and profoundly influencing Manufacturers,Vendors and Makers of repute. Hint. LAUGHING!

At least Imagination and Pretend are free,so you "hard chargers" get to read about it and gawk the Splendid Pixels.



Bless your hearts.,

Laughing!.................................







'gun,

Don't go swipin' their Imagination and Pretend,if only because it's all they've "got" and that would be mean.(grin)

Bless their hearts.

Laughing!.............






'74,

Ain't it a fhuqking hoot,that the ONLY thing you can speak of in the first hand,is your Homoerotic Fantasies and very WELL founded Insecurities? Congratulations?!?

VERY good call,to refrain all things Outdoors! LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...........................

Sweet baby Jesus, how many “ex pards” didja fuuck over for the lens’??? Haha

It’s very impressive you are soooo enamoured with the petting zoo, didja bait em with Oreo’s????

PS, for the mouth breathing twat, uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh , look, I have a knife!!!!!! Might shoulda spent all that$$$$ on Kerri, things mighta turned out different for ya, not that it matters, as she is finally happy.. who’d a thunk it???? Grin

Addendum for the lying fuuck, am digging the Nikon porro’s..... haha god damn er!!!!

I have homoerotic fantasies? I believe you're the one that dreamed up "Peckerpole Princess". LOL

Just to be polite I'm sticking with pathological sociopath.

Jud and Stick both know that peckerpoles are small [bleep] fir or pine trees that don’t make a logger a living.

But feel free to take it how you want too.

Peckerpole Princess,

Pardon my having seen more glass in a single outing,than you have in a "Life" of trying and my being rather at ease in extrapolations of same. Hint. Congratulations?!?

I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that your one and only move is to read my every word and gawk every Splendid Pixel,while trying to "convince" yourself,that you "could too". Everyone "knows" a Cutter...you "lucky" kchunt! LAUGHING!

Feel free to wax eloquent a touch more,on the Sweet "Satisfactions" of your Vagina Monologue and Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint. Laughing!



If only to help your focus and because you are AMAZINGLY Fhuqking STUPID. Pun be intended. Laughing!



A rather good place to be. Google it,if only because you HAVE to. Hint. Laughing!



Looking forward to your next Whine and whirling pom-pom's from your Couchbound Kchunt as you ride the pine and "live" vicariously!

Here's to you doing your best and the HILARITY associated with your very WELL founded Insecurities and Man Crush!

P.S. and by the way...don't "forget" the knife. LAUGHING!



Bless your heart.

Laughing!.........................







'74,

The LAST thing I'd wanna do is steal the "thunder" of your Imagination and it's Pretend,as you merrily place gents in sleeping bags,with the smallest of cracks in that door of "opportunity" to Fantasize. Weren't my intent to horn you up...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!

This prolly ain't a Peckerpole...you Pouty Lipped Princess. Hint. Laughing!



Before you busted outta the closet yet again,you were going to "tell" me about Pistoles. I reckon you must have "forgot"? Hint. LAUGHING!



Don't let the couch get your kchunt,nor the cat your tongue.

HINT.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.....................







'300,

The Texas version of EVERYTHING,is fhuqking hilarious,you AMAZINGLY Inept Clueless Whining Fhuqk. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!........................







Rogue,

She don't need much of an excuse.to bust out of yet another closet!

Bless her heart.

Laughing!....................

It’s funny only a lazy bushelor would have the time to snap “pics”!!!! Haha you hard charging bushelor you!!!!

Got another kelp fed boomer this morning, in focus for bitchin/whinnying crew!!! Hola!!!


Speaking of closets, how’s the 20 yo cheer squad coming along???? Haha

Stumpy...

those must be some new guns....

NO RUST.....guess they ain't been swimm' yet...

do the yellow tape help hold the scope together during Recoil?
pretty crafty idea...

you're moving up in the world....

do you get better accuracy with rusty bullets or do you prefer unrusty ones?

oh and did anyone ever tell ya your dog looks like a grizzly...

that probably isn't the one who edits and spell checks your posts tho..
I thought that was your Lab who did that...him being the better speller in the "family"...

have a good day Stumpy.. always wonderful to see your posts and see what you're up to...
provides the humor I need in my daily life...

gonna take my AR and go fishing today....maybe I'll shoot myself a Carp or two..

Not bad focusing, your best just got a little better!

Cell phones have come a long ways.....

Don't let that go to your head Judwina, you still have a long ways to go before you're half as good as 'Stick. Hint

Why thank you “ the smokingcunt”.... point awarded for sucking a mean azz....

Hint!

You better rest up for your daily mental ass kicking coming up tomorrow.

Smokingcunt, if that’s a azz whooping I’ll take a few more helpings..... it is rather flattering you see the photography as a “contest”.. just sit back, live vicariously, tuck your boo boo lip in, and tell yourself you could too!!!

PS, while your gulping copious amounts of cock, ask your man crush where the stellar pics of his son are..... you’ll notice the chickenshitt deflects most questions, as per usual... I’m almost embarrassed for you sucking as much ass as you do.... almost.. grin

I dug the smoking sex post you deleted, I woulda deleted it too dummy

PS, never had “sex” before, but I’ve “fuucked” lots.... re hint

Here ya go:

Kimber Adirondack re-barreled to 6x47L

Oh..... haha

Didn't forget. Just found your "pistoles" incredibly boring too. Didn't see a single 1911. Of course you'd probably have some goofy optic on it anyway.

Mike the hard charging needs every “advantage “ she can.... grin

I see that.

Much to agree with there.

If your rifle prints 1.5" groups at 100, you're good to go for the vast majority of shots taken by big game hunters.

My first scope cost me $39 mounted. It was a cheap Bushnell Sportview 3-9x. While I learned to hate the scope for its poor optics, the damn thing lasted about 20 years. During that time it survived a fall from a mule that busted two of my ribs and other abuses. It finally went TU after I mounted it on my .375 Winchester. Although optical quality of the plastic lenses sucked, that scope never cost me a shot opportunity. I guess $39 over 20 years or so wasn't a bad investment.

There are a lot of great rifles out there and you can spend a fortune or two getting one if you feel the need. Or you can buy a Ruger American or a Howa or a used Savage or any number of others and get equal or better accuracy and a lifetime of use. Half my rifles came to me gently used. The last used one I bought was in 2016, a Savage Model 11 FXP3 .243 Win. Ugly doesn't quite describe it, but the first load I tried at the range shot bugholes. If I ding up the synthetic stock, big whoop - the rifle cost me $295 out the door.

Most ammo will do the job most of the time. While not a fan of thin-skinned cup-and-core bullets at high impact velocities, even they usually work - often more spectacularly so than tougher bullets. That said, if you want a bullet that will traverse a mule deer lengthwise, there are plenty of good options and the bullets don't care how much the rifle that shot them cost. While I use cheap C&C bullets in a select few of my rifles, I prefer bullets that provide controlled but reliable expansion. Nosler AB, Barnes TTSX and North Fork SS are my favorites but the advantages they provide are rarely needed.

In the end, the equipment you use makes less difference than the use to which they are put. Success in the field more often means spending more time in the field and less back at camp.

Peckerpole Princess,

I'm always torn on which is funnier,your Whine,the Excuses or the "Results"? Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!

Membership has it's privileges and at the time,I was only running 35 Cutters and took it upon myself,to grab all of the dicey stuff,especially in the Riparian Buffers and Iggle Buffers. That way if something went amiss,the boys were off the hook and it were all me. Given the skillset and faculties,there was no mishaps and I've the uncanny knack of making such things look easy...if only because they are(for me). At least you get to read about it,gawk the splendid pixels and watch the Poetry in motion,as you set agog trying to "convince" yourself,that you "could too"...you "lucky" kchunt. I know,I know...everyone "knows" a Cutter. LAUGHING!



Membership Has It's Privileges RINK

Membership Has It's Privileges #2 RINK

LOVE the "pictures" you take,if only because you are doing your best. FUNNY fhuqking schit! Hint. Laughing!



It certainly is THE most "unfair" of advantages,to have the means abilities and comprehension to connect dots as per whim,which is something I'm likely not compelled to apologize for. Though I do VERY much enjoy your trying to keep pace,while keeping me in your every thought and Dream,as you wax eloquent on your incredibly long list of very WELL founded Insecurities,as you frantically try to latch onto a shirt tail and practice The Fine Art of Imitation. Hint. LAUGHING!



Be sure to put more of my pics in "your" album and keep brandishing that cellphone "camera",to document your "hard charging" "pursuits" and all the "splendors" you "see". Hint. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!....................






Shefire,

Few things funnier,than an Opiate Addled Candystriper,"flaunting" her Imagination and Pretend,as you suffer the realities of your "life". Congratulations?!? Laughing!

You be SURE to cite The BIG Day,when your Do Nothing Kchunt leaves the couch and brazenly opens the front door and steps outside. Due your Canine Fascinations,consider it a Two Dog DARE,to include pics,of the "adventure". Hint. LAUGHING!

Better poke yet another of my frames,in "your" album and Humor Points awarded,for saying that you "don't". Hint. LAUGHING!



You Do NOTHING Kchunts are a fhuqking RIOT!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................................






'gun,

I've not flogged upon a Montucky in .243" Lapooey,but think highly of 'em in 270,6BR and 6XC(8" or faster all). Should prolly build another in 6 Kreedmire,with 7" RPM.

Nabbed 500 .224" 88 ELD-M's for the new 22 Kreedmire and have 7" spouts in 223,223AI,22-250 and 22-250AI to extrapolate.

A 7" Montucky throated right,in 22 Kreedmire...would connect alotta dots.

Film at 11:00.......................(grin)






'74,

I'm "unfamiliar" with said Pistole Platform,especially in Gubment and Kommanduhr. Hopefully,you will "believe" that and extoll your version of "knowledge","results" and "experience". Hint. Congratulations. Laughing!

If only Novak made Eyerohn Cites. Pardon the knife. Laughing!



Now you can say you've "see"' a Marvel Unit One...you "lucky" kchunt. I hear through The Grapevine,that it'll easily shoot under an inch at 50yds. Hint. Laughing!



As per always,I enjoy your Whine,the pathetic fhuqking Excuses and the absolute HILARITY of your Dumbfhuqktitude...as you sing your Vagina Monologue and profusely punctuate same,with very WELL founded Insecurities.

You "hard chargers" REALLY "get after it"!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................







'Hunter,

1.5" 100yd clusters,are PATHETIC in this Day & Age. If only a touch more,Agg's are not lineal in relation to distance and boolits matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than a smidge,when it comes to schit that actually fhuqking matters...like Atmospherics. Hint. Now you "know". Congratulations?!? Laughing!

The LESS one "does",the "better" everything is and it is fhuqking HILARIOUS to be regaled by Droolers,trying to "extoll" same.

You CLUELESS Kchunts are on fhuqking fire!

Wow +P++!!!!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...........................

And that’s the mental beat down of the day??? God damn my feelers are hurt!!! Got petting zoo pics, and a lying fuuck babbling along, surprise surprise....

Do you have anymore 15 yo pics you can share, specifically knife pose pics????? Haha

This guy takes one for the team, takes really good care subordinates..... HAHA Lying fuuck.......

" I haven't talk to Larry in a while, he screwed me on a deal, so I don't care for him"

Larry, it appears your a piece of fuucking shiit like most have known for sometime... What a great pard you are!! HAHA

The pm's from a ex "pard"...... LMFAO

well founded insecurities....... grin

Larry hasn't shot a deer in the day light for years, he/they drive the roads at night ans shoot deer, come back at day light and take pictures and brag!....everyone at Craig knows they does it!

That 15 year old pic of the dead wolf and ingram looked great when he first posted it .

Hey he’s s stellar husband, father,” well one son can’t stand him, and most know what the other did”, shady deals from “ex pards”, your quite simply a lying, shady piece of shiit Larry....... you’ve got to outlaw deer on a island with a 5 deer limit and a season that 7 months long???? Jesus fuucking Christ you lazy poor stupid sonafabitch..... I couldn’t buy this much laughter!!!! Lmfao

I'd leave the kid talk alone.

You wouldn’t do a lot of stuff I’d do... most folks might straighen their [bleep] out with such travesties, one after another, but not the load mouthed lying fuuck...... the narsasistic skewed perception is funny though.... the pm’s are funny though, no wonder why the cull moved outta Oregon.... Laffin

Hopefully she treats the 20 cheer camp better.... naw she won’t

Duh I got a knife!!!!! Haha wow......

+1

Yeah NaomiJud, what they said.

You poor dummy’s know what kinda azz your kissing.... sad....

I woulda left it alone, but I remember specifically when that happened, the lying kchunt was running his gums the next day,... sorry piece of shiit... most would be humbled, not the me man, no not him... it’s all pretty simple, shut your fuucking trap and be nice to folks... not too much to ask.

What you are doing is not about him, it is about you.

I'd look hard at that christenson arms 300WSM I saw in the classifeds the other day.

Not about kissing anybody's azz, but it's a pretty low card to play in a game you can't win. Proof being that you played it and the outcome is the same.

Oh yes, how many times have you said, "oh I wish stick was here", "caint wait til stick shows up", blah blah blah.....

I notice the crew that's the most impressed, is the do nothing imagination and pretend crew he makes fun of the most, but you fuuckers are to stupid to see it. Us folks that grew up here know how to cypher through the shiit, which aint hard.....

I guess winning is a matter of perception, if you think the lying lazy fuuck is winning, you've issues yourself.... You asgayasitgets crew are really burning up the bandwidth!!! laffin

You've long missed the point...

I ain't siding with anyone other than a few innocent kids that should be left out of a stupid conversation anyway. You've got/had/will always have issues with BS. You're trying to call him out on whatever....but fail to recognize no matter what you say, it's like talking to a wall. Narcissism gets thrown around a bit, but nobody listens.

99.9% of this stuff is professional wrestling and the rest is the classifieds.


ARAIG is the same crap.....you hang out there too, remember? If you forgot, that was where you PM'd me that you were gonna ship some fresh canned tuna, as I'd never messed with it before. Regardless....it's a funny [bleep] world.

Have fun beating a dead horse.

Be a better man and leave the kids be. You have some too, IIRC.

Bore, I realize what’s going goin on, the aforementioned mention comments reinterate what a piece of shiit Larry really is.... it just goes to show that in his materialistic world there are things a hellava lot more important than being a internet azzhole, like perhaps trying to be a good father or husband.... I’m lucky I guess, I got a great wife, kids career , that’s not by accident, but by design. Being gone 6 months outta the year, then being gone while Home is not condusive to a long lasting marriage, or children having a good upbringing, obviously....

It’s not by accident I get to hunt 3-5 states a year, 2 countries including fishing exceptional locales yearly, far more interesting than hunting a kelp fed beach bears, and a handful of diminutive deer, and flossing steelhead, posting on the www thinking he’s the big shot. As I told Rick, this shiits been going on a long time and it ain’t gonna stop as long as he’s a fuucking [bleep]..... I do get lots of giggles out of it too.... but hey, the flatlander city slick crew is enamoured by the washes up kchunt only cause they don’t know better..

You guys want a hero look no further than scenar shooters, who’s forgot more than the lying kchunt larry will ever know... that’s a top notch gent right there, modest, respectful, just a great guy. Anyhow there’s my well founded insecurities... good talk though

PS pm the addy I’ll hook ya up with Home canned albacore and yellowfin from Mexico

If You really want to get back at Him, Keep raising the Rent until He can't afford to live in Your Head anymore. That will teach Him.

Oh [bleep] if anyone of you hanger-ons had a sack you would have put the pos in his place way before Jud or I ever hit the scene. Buuutttt. [bleep] stay [bleep]. Best part is the no killing couch bound crowd is his cheer quad. I’m sad for you poor lifeless retards.

Naw too much fun spitting shiit at him.... it’s good for a laugh or 3......

It is sad, folks put up with it..... must be a bitch being a pusssy in the real world.... grin

I do dig the clean “cutter” look..... haha

Another lesson for the do nothing crowd, bushelors are the laziest of lazy for “cutters”..... hint

So I'm not the only one that realizes he does the same schit every other week?


Anyway....kids...no go...let the crap fall where it may.



Reckon I just got me a spot on the next show....

We all know his MO , I had him on ignore for the longest time, now it is just plain funny to see him make a fool of himself without him even knowing it. I agree with everything you have posted just leave the kids out of it,It's not their fault they have a total azzwipe for a father. Like I said earlier the same old same old everytime he posts. Rick should have taken care of the problem a long long time ago.

I like making his list where he rehashes the same old insults I've been reading for the last 8 years on here. I have his insults mostly memorized.

Just was reading this thread and wow!!! I am letting you know that I'm not writing this to be mean but to try and help you.

Big Stick you need to seek psychological care asap......

I'm not sure what drugs you are taking but please seek help. You remind me of Charlie Sheen when he was losing it. How do I know you are on drugs? Because of the bizarre way you think. The bizarre way you type your message and the pictures you post. No sober person could be that bizarre.

I am saying this as your friend, please seek medical attention. God bless you!

Not saying the guy dosent deserve a ripping, he is a complete [bleep] who has nothing better to do than brag about all the $$$ he has, more powers to him I guess but making fun of his kid who committed suicide is sort of messed up.

So I guess interpretation is everything. I have not and would not talked any [bleep] about the kids, I will however feel sorry for the conditions, the local, and the complete fuucking cull azzhole they were forced to live with... there is no amount of $$$ worth my kids going to shiit schools, shiit sports programs etc for my benefit..... the good thing is I guess his ex is a great, amazing person, I know this for a fact, was able to hang in as long as she could before leaving the greedy glutinous piece of shiit. Kudos to her! As for the lying bowl of goo, hopefully the float plane go down flying his cull azz to the Ketchikan.....

'Stick - I picked the 6x47Lapooey for the re-barrel cuz I got a good deal on the Whidden Dies. The 6.5 version seemed to be similar to the Creed but not as popular due to lack of marketing. Not sure if that's the case but anyhow, I told the plumber to make it work with the 105grHPBT and cut the 8" twisted HART to 20" because 18" wasn't long enough and 22" wasn't short enough. The Lapooey virgin brass necks down well with false shoulders and is very accurate right out the gate. I gotta get off the couch and shoot this thing some more.


Well here now, I can't believe I'm throwing in my 2 penny's worth.

Leave family out of it. Jud, it's the only reason I am mean to you, because you are that low(see next paragraph). Do you know Stick from your personal life or just on here? Just curious.

It's a dang internet forum, lighten up. I look at it as B.S. being a persona, a character, like playing a part. Mainly, because it sure appears to be exactly what he is doing. It's entertainment for him and others as well, and seems that most enjoy the back and forth banter. But, somebody always has to get sand in their... well you know. It can be difficult to tell who is joking and who is serious. I can tell you all one thing for sure, there is nothing at all any of you (Big Stick included) can say to me that could in any way hurt my feelings or piss me off. Go ahead and try, it just is not in any way possible, ain't gonna happen.

This place is awesome because it is for the most part not moderated. It's like the wild west of forums. Start banning/moderating and next thing you know it won't be the same.

About mentioning the kids, if someone actually contacted his kids to talk smack, that would be very wrong. Saying stuff about the kids on a forum that the kids most likely never read seems to me to be a non-issue. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but the talk about the kids is directed at the father, in response to some hostile stuff the father has said here. The kids never know of what is said, and probably wouldn't care either.

Bingo!!!!

Wow how in the fuuck did you come up with that???? I’ll leave it at this, in no waaaay whatsoever do I think that is funny, cool, neat, or whatever...... I will say hearing from someone first on how that boy was treated absolutely makes me fuucking sick.ill leave at that, and no Larry, it’s no one that lives up there or my buddy from Idaho you met.... if there is a kernel of truth, I hope you get fuucked in return... later

I do enjoy the back and forth banter but I feel bad that I helped derail my sons thread.

Mike, is triggercreep your son? If so, many sincere thanks to you both for his serving our Country.

I feel bad about the derailment myself.


Triggercreep, My other lightweight is a Kimber Montana stock with a Kimber Hunter(same as Montana) barreled action in 6.5CM. The barrel has been chopped to 20”, added a fluted ti bolt handle, aluminum trigger guard, dual dovetail Burris signature rings with 20moa inserts, SWFA mil/mil fixed six. I’m thinking about having the bolt fluted. To me it’s the perfect semi custom mountain rifle that match grade ammo can be bought in any good hunting or gun store and for the money it can’t be beat.

Tomorrow will be the Tiara bitch fest award blah blah blah blah post and hard charger blablablahnhhh.
Same old [bleep] ‘‘tis sad that anyone would think it’s a character one is playing for fun.

We have watched a guy melt into a fat Broken down lonely joke. Just glad I was able to help Jud with the Commentary.

Some of you are overreacting and over reaching by saying Jud made this post about “kids”. Reads like a statement of facts that Jud obviously knows from personal experience. Quit acting like bunch of child therapy advocates. Nothing here that’s inappropriate. Get real! 😎

Yea and it’s cute as hell that you guys actually think those are his kids. Well the girl is that [bleep] Attitude has to be genetic! but that boy looks a [bleep] load like the guy holding up the wolf in the 12 year old boy rides dog picture. 🤭. Anyway have a good night guys. Tomorrow we can start all over again at square one.

Its almost like you're trying to be as much of a prick as bigstick is lol. You're even starting to type like him. Get a grip man.

Yes indeed. Thank you.

For the record:

I cant pour piss out of a boot or load straight ammo. Now I sling factory ping pong .277 bullets out of a schitty rifle and am "doing my best".



I do wish Rick would unleash BS on this thread just to see how long the run of posts goes. Hockey and basketball are over and there's not much left to watch on Netflix.


Summer reading at its best......

I can only imagine how long it would run

Naw you’ve witnessed it several times over the last 10+ year scon asgayasitgets... nothing new

Dare anyone to say different.





Ain’t no Q-tip but duurrrrrrrrr.

Peckerpole Princess(es),

You "hard charging" gals really oughtta give thought,to filling out and submitting a Hurt Feelers Report. It just might bolster your Low T,quell your High E and satiate some very WELL founded Insecurities. Then again...LAUGHING! Hint. Congratulations?!?

I am still waiting for you "rough and tumble" gals,to denote just how many times a day you think about me,mention me or Post about me and to extrapolate same,in relation to how many rounds you "shoot". That obvious ratio,will yet again ratchet HILARITY to new heights,because you Whining Kchunts REALLY "get after it"! I'm very MUCH enjoying the High Pitched Nasal Whine emanating from the Fabrication Factory,as Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude reliably totes STUPIDITY to new places. I'm fhuqking crying...I'm laughing soooooooooo fhuqking hard. EPIC fhuqking humor!!! Laughing!

Hmmmmm...lemme see,if only because a cellphone "camera" "capturing" Rats and Dinks outta focus,just ain't gonna come close. Not that I'd wanna diminish the "magnitude" and Sweet "Satisfactions" of Talpidae Pursuits and the Hero Pic photo opportunites of such "Adventures". Just what phone "camera" is it anyhow,that does NOT have focus?!? Hint. Laughing!

Pardon the Splendor(s).



Undoubtedly,The Do NOTHING Gang has this as an emblem upon their Member Jackets...the "lucky" kchunts. LAUGHING!



Got caught a touch flat footed yesterday,with a herd of 19 Cattle inside the fence,with about the right amount of snow falling in nicely backlit conditions. Needed a 1D4 wearing 300mm F/2.8 IS L and perhaps a New Gen 1.4x TC,but didn't schlep it this pass. Google it all,if only because you have to. Hint. Laughing!



The only thing you Whining Kchunts could speak to in the first hand,is what it's like to awake every morning,KNOWING you are welllllllllllll shy of the mark and the "excitement" of getting to unwrap some fresh Insecurities. Looking forward to the next Whine and a fresh batch of Excuses.

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!.................





elkchunt,

I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that you've read my every Post and gawked my every Splendid Pixel,from your couchbound kchunt. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Thanks for "explaining" how your Imaginary Pretend Ignore "works",though there's hardly a need for you to quantify,that besides being a CLUELESS Fhuqk,you also are a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit. Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!................................









For your Canine Fascinations.



Bless your heart.

Laughing!............................






'STUART,

The Peckerpole Princesses are more than a touch uncomfy in their skins,for more than a "few" valid reasons. They feverishly bask upon the HOPE,of being the first Whining Kchunts,to bitch themselves "happy" and it prolly ain't gonna come close to happening.

I get a kick out of their heartfelt angst,hilarious Insecurities and best efforts.

Bless their hearts.

Laughing!.....................







'Runner,

I've yet to see a CA balance or handle for fhuqk,or shoot worth a hoot.

The Barrett FC simply and absolutely crushes it,from any/all angles.

There's MUCH to be said,for aligning mechanics and throating,RPM and COAL latitude is what it is ALL about.

Hint...............................









'Bore,

In fairness,I only get 6 months of vacation a year,which ties my hands a smidge. I'm fairly certain that the things of interest to me at 8yrs old,still remain more than a touch interesting,though it's nice to be able to tote whatever whim dictates.

Never been tough to cypher who shoots and who don't and I very much enjoy Window Licking Clueless Kchunts try to "talk" about same.

Pardon my being afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess and I'm looking forward to flogging on the new 22 Kreedmire with 88's,this next pass.

Film at 11:00.............................










'JAY,

I'm more than happy to pay out slack on the rope and watch the show,as The Do NOTHING Gang comes unhinged,with the realizations of their Insecurities.

Funny schit...and I mean fhuqking FUNNY!

Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery and one cain't really be "surprised",that Imitation,Plagiarism and Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude is the only "moves" The Peckerpole Princesses "have".

Bless their hearts.

Laughing!.......................








'74,

NOBODY could "insult" you better than you can,by you simply doing your BEST and "thinking" you've a First Fhuqking Clue. Hint. Congratulations?!?

VERY good call,to refrain from ALL things Outdoors and to Whine instead...if only because it was/is the ONLY fhuqking "move" you "have". A gal has gotta know her limitations and your's are fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint. laughing!

Lemme fuel your Imagination and Pretend,so at least you can now say you've "seen" a 3" 317 and a Garrow Hummer...you "lucky" kchunt.



Bless your heart.

Laughing!.............................








Madams,

You be SURE to tell yourself,everything you need to hear. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Pardon the Splendor overwhelming your exceedingly modest faculties.

You Whining Kchunts are a fhuqking riot!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..........................







AKPENDOOSH,

Your Whine is simply fhuqking MAGNIFICENT. Congratulations?!?

Looking forward to your next Whine. Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!...........................






'gun,

I tend to default Redding Bushing Dies and drive .003" constriction on everything,whether Lever,Krunchenticker or Turnbolt.

Assuming right RPM,Throat geometry and a 84M OEM box,I could happily drive XC,Kreedmire or '47 Lapooey from said platform. Given a choice,Lapooey brass sets on the shelf and Alpha gets the nod...if only because it is without peer. Talked to Bob last week and he said CC should be getting 22 Kreedmire brass in this week,so can hopefully arrange the arrival of same. Seems to me,that a 22 Kreedmire squirting 75 ELD's as a minimum and perhaps 88's to boot,just might connect a few dots. Will have to gun both projectiles side by each,in like conditions,to get a feel for where the trade-offs(if any) lay in wait. I'll not be "surprised" if said chambering retires/rebarrels a few High RPM 22-250AI's in the larder.

Anymore,it's tough to set a 20" 22 Grendel Krunchenticker flingin' 75 ELD's at 3100fps aside,when not driving a .378" boltface.

WICKED fhuqking platform.

Film at 11:00............................






Beaver',

The Peckerpole Princesses are agog in perpetual Man Crush and just more than a touch miffed,that they can't connect a fhuqking dot. Can't blame the gals for trying to hitch a free ride on a shirt tail,because they sure as fhuqk ain't gonna arrange ANYTHING on their own. I'm happy to provide transport for their Imagination and Pretend,as they try to "convince" themselves that they "could too"...yet alas. Hint. LAUGHING!

I "wonder" why the ONLY good pics in "their" albums,are mine?!? LAUGHING!

Always happy to fuel their Imagination and Pretend,with unrivaled splendor(s).

Easy pass,on a Bruin bigger than they've ever seen(or ever will). Hint.



FUNNY schit!

Bless their hearts.

Laughing!..............

The yarder engineer of “cutters”, keep your chin up, keep th positive attitude of “great”, as you simply have no other choice... hint

I've seen bigger Black Bear than that. I live in PA and have lived in NC. Both states that produce 800 pound Bears.

I might shoot too. Hint. It's a Bergara. Now you can say you've seen one. It's in 308 though. I know that's a little much for you.

Easy now mike, those kelp fed beach bears are highly elusive!!! I mean get in a boat, and cruise the tide flats!! Dont forget the tape on the muzzle so you dont cram mud in your snout when you bail out!!! Hard chargers only!!

LOL

Right on queue....

16 bore!!
Call me a Liar🤯

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Listen up mike!! The buck hunting is so tough, you have to hunt them for 6 months!!!! From velvet in the alpine, through prime rut all the way til post rut when they’re stacked up on the beaches!!!! This is the hard chargers worst nightmare!!!! To top it off, you hunt beach bears out of a boat!!!! Jesus Christ this kinda shiit would break a normal man!! #sickforit. #mountainops. #cameronhanes. #thelazylyingbushelor

There’s my well founded insecurities for the day!!! Grin

That would do me in.

You lost me...

Oh god damn er, he’s living in my head!!! You can’t buy this many laughs that’s for sure!! Haha

I think the yarder engineer of cutters was gargling something about 6 months of vacation, hard to understand with his jowels slamming off the keyboard, anyhow, this is what “vacation “ looks like...... hint




Oooops.....

I think your dog’s in heat.

😂

Stole the show....

You forgot “Hint”..... Hint

Haha god damn 16, your coming around!! That is a instant campfire classic!!!

How kiss find pressure and but rock on

Toldjaso

Thank me later

Cause I’ve had em all....

Awesome!

Oh Jesus that’s funny

Is that a Chuck May knife? I like the looks of that thing. Pretty handy....

Never mind. I saw it was an Ingram. some of y'all really spend a lot of time on here...

You’ve been quiet lately, good to see you around again, your one of the ones who’s opinion I value... fwiw...

Just wait until I write the Jeopardy categories. Be sure to answer in the form of a question....

“What is a window licker?” for $500 Alex!

How about “Hard Charger” and “Window Licker?” Guess that’s for card #2.

Damn that's funny 16

Pistols? I have a few....

Too bad about those 1911s......

What a [bleep] of what started as a cool thread.

no schit!

So it's not odd that the OP has only posted on this thread? Seems he and BS have done things "more than a little"

Maybe that phrase should be on the bingo card.

Got some nice pieces there Mark...

Peckerpole Princess(es),

Pardon the Reality of a slow day for me,trumping your "Life's" "experiences". I'm as at ease in sandbagging,as you gals are in talking out your ass. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

I had to "wait" all the way until I was 17yrs old,to kill my first tree over 10'. Be sure to place the pic in "your" album and then "convince" yourself that you "could too". Laughing!



It was a real bitch,to suffer murdering Old Growth from such a "tender" age...but at least you "lucky" kchunts get to read about it and gawk the Splendor(s). Hint. Laughing!



If only to happily fuel more of your Imagination,so you can conjure more Pretend and fuel the fires of The Fabrication Factory. Hint. LAUGHING!



Be sure to rattle them pom-pom's,as you ride the pine and hope to catch a hitch on my shirt tail. You "hard chargers" REALLY "get after it"! LAUGHING!

Bless your hearts.

Laughing!.........................





'74,

It's your Imagination,please feel free to Pretend with it,as you MUST. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

I've never seen a Black Bear over 4' or 125lbs...you "lucky" kchunt. LAUGHING!



I reckon a Steaming Piece Of Fhuqking Schit Blued/Walnut Bergara 308,wearing schit mounts,rings and glass...flinging schit fodder,is VERY "exciting" for someone who "knows" and "does" as "much" as you? Be sure to "tell" me more,as I'm "unfamiliar" with the platform and chambering. LAUGHING!

Perspective never ain't not,HILARIOUS. Hint. Laughing!

Mike Rock 1-11.25" MTU contoured M852 chambered,Marty steel M4,A5,yada,yada,yada. Google it all,if only because you have to. Hint. Laughing!



Have heard good thangs about G3's...Google same. Hint. laughing!



You Do NOTHING Dumbfhuqks are a RIOT!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.......................








'bore,

Someone's gotta set the stage and it's never been tough to cypher who do and who don't. "Unfortunately",I never learned how to linger,let alone Imagine or Pretend...so if something piques my interests,I simply procure and R&D it in extrapolation to other wares which've been flogged upon. That Reality,is tough on Window Licker's feelers,which is more than just a "touch" fhuqking funny! Hint.

Just had a nice talk with CC Josh about Alpha 22 Kreedmire brass and they stipulate 88 ELD-M's doing 3350fps,as per their Factory offering. Nabbed 200pcs and that should roast the first spout. I'm thinking that said performance in a mag contour,dumped in a RHR Fake McMillan Terrain,fed ala M5 DBM with OEM AICS mags,with a Marty rail and Horn' rings steering a 10x MQ,should prolly oughtta connect a dot or two. It would seem to me,that with a 250yd zero,it'd take better than 1350yds to use up the windshield and 2000yd full value 10MPH windage impetus,would be welllllll shy of 5 Mils. It just might shine.I prolly won't be bummed opening that Mail and I doubt all will ship in a single parcel and I've a "hunch",it'll Kiss,find pressure and ROCK the fhuqk on. Laughing!

Were I forced to "speculate",given my cited freebore geometry,the 88's will Smooch easily,within said confines and allow Land Chasin' to boot.It just might could be squarely Amazing,as an absolute minimum,given the .545 BC and my abilities. Without doubt,The Do NOTHING Gang will certainly be glued to the riveting commentary regarding same,as well as gawking the undoubtedly Splendid Pixels. It'll only add to the humor,that Texans and their ilk will have to Google ALL of it and then wax eloquent on Ping Pong Balls,as a "comparison". Hint. LAUGHING!

I think it'll add a little something to Splendid Pixels to put the 18" Bart' barreled Khukri contoured Vudoo in an Old Glory A5,if only for Retrostalgic pinache' and more Hurt Feelers,captured via APS-H 1D4 sensor and 35mm F/1.4 for Bitching Bokeh. I can see AV full aperture control,high speed drive,AI Servo and AF easily connecting them dots,so Couchbound Kchunts can say they've "seen" one. I'm rather at ease with countless Clueless Kchunts feigning Imitation and it never ain't not fhuqking HILARIOUS,how incredibly shy of "equalling" anything. FUNNY schit! It just might shine andI prolly won't be bummed opening that Mail and I doubt all will ship in a single parcel. I've a "hunch",it'll Kiss,find pressure and ROCK the fhuqk on too. Laughing!

GOOD talk.

Seems like it'd be plum handy,to not be forced to guess. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..........................









kingston,

The Canine recovered just fine.

LAUGHING!.......................






'CUBIC,

Ain't it a fhuqking HOOT,that no matter the subject,you can't EVER begin to keep "pace". Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!........................







'shooter,

Here's a "hint",in that you've yet to attain a FIRST Fhuqking Clue about anything. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Don't let the cat get your tongue,nor the couch your kchunt.

Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.......................












'500,

I've some May and they ain't even on the same page.

For actual USE,Gene simply has no equal and knowing me...I can prolly extrapolate a few blades.(grin)

Just do it. His patterns,grinds and heat treat,are THE pinnacle.

Hint............................






wolverine,

Look in the mirror. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.................................








Capt',

All "hard charging" Window Lickers "know" a Cutter and can recite the lexicon of Poignant Phraseology,coined by them that do. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

Laughing!.......................








Lazy',

Oh it's a fhuqk of a LOT,funnier than that...for reasons well beyond your "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart,for trying.

Laughing!.......................





Beaver',

I've never even seen a Pistole before. Are they loud?

LAUGHING!.......................





AKPENDOOSH,

Feel free to quantify,where the concise particulars of the crux,were shy of your "'ability" to "comprehend". Also cite which pics were "too Splendid" and overwhelmed your hilarious version of "comprehension". Congratulations?!?

Mechanics were placed on a Silver Platter and only you DUMBEST Of Fhuqks,could botch that! Hint.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!..........................





'zone,

A Bergara 308 in Blued/Walnut spitting Fusion Factory Fodder,is what you want,because Mechanics are "moot". Hint. Congratulations?!?

LAUGHING!

Bless your heart.

Laughing!............................

Are someone’s jowels slamming the keyboard again???

Speaking of tender age, I had to wait til the tender age of 12 to kill my first bear...... grin


The yarder engineer of “cutters”, you’ve really tore it up over the years!!! Haha

Had to wait til the “tender” age of 10 to kill my first blacktail over 19”...... blues and walnut Ruger 6mm, they’ll work if your not too fuucking stupid and lazy to take care of em.... hint
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BS, What model did you have and send back? Every model in the Geovid line from the HD-B (40049) on up has EHR specified at: 10 yds to 1,200 yds / 10 m to 1,100 m.

Ladies and gentlemen please hold your cards, I think we have a bingo.....

We’re getting close!! It’s went from killin and rifles, to cuttin timber, which was to be expected....

I'm worried about the OP myself....

Mine only go to archery ranges in midget country.



Poor retard is pushing the wrong button.

He sure does

Please tell me you still have that Rug 6mm! Your dad liked you more than mine did...Pops, threw me an old 1894 Win. with saddle ring and said “Carry On Son”....16 years old, I bought a Winchester 7mag, put a 3.5-10x40 Leupold on it.. I was killing schit from then on. 😎

What model is yours?

I don't know what you're implying. The OP is my son who is serving his country in the Middle East right now. He joined, asked a question, had it sufficiently answered, and now he's focused on more important things.

Yeah I have Fusion. You failed to mention the stack of Federal Premium right next to the Fusion though.

Perfectly legitimate reason IMO. Tell your son that I appreciate he service if you don't mind.

Right on Johnny, mike thanks for your sons service as well!!

Ya buddy!! My boy killed a few bucks with it here and in Idaho, sittin in the back of the safe

Fred is it any surprise that stupid sonafabitch is bitchin about it???

Question, how is the Bergara working out for you. I ask as I have not handled one and have only read about them.

Roger that and his service it appreciated....

Implication was that the handle was one of the fakes just to stir things up for the foolishness that generally follows......as it did. Nothing more, nothing less.

He's obviously smarter than the rest of us numbnuts that play this stupid forum game...

Thanks guys. He's happy to serve and we're proud of him. He's not much of one for talk forums and he normally just talks my ear off about guns. But he knows mountain rifles aren't my area of expertise so he came here and started this thread. He got some excellent advice too.

I love it. Honestly though it belongs to the OP of this thread. I'm babysitting it while he plays in the Sandbox. It has me contemplating a Bergara of my own though.

Stick, I believe I will get an Ingram. If it's that much more quality....I'd be dumb not to.

Peckerpole Princess(es),

The hilarity of your feeble BEST efforts,is never not fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Pardon the fact,that a 9 year old girl,shot a Bear bigger than you Drooling Dumbfhuqks have even "seen"...or ever will. Your Rats and Dinks are as fhuqking HILARIOUS,as your "means","abilities" and "comprehension"! Hint. Laughing!



You "hard chargers",really "get after it". LAUGHING!



The LRF attempt,is equally as fhuqking hilarious! Hint. Laughing!



I very MUCH enjoy The Second Fiddle Chronicles,as you Drooling Dumbfhuqks give things a whirl and are soooooooooo amazingly shy of the mark,each and every attempt. That must be VERY "rewarding",to be that consistent? LAUGHING!

Be sure to "talk" Rifles and/or Cutting,or anything else Outdoors,mainly because it WILL be fhuqking HILARIOUS. Hint. Laughing!

Allow me to fuel your Imagination and Pretend. Not much over 14'. Hint. laughing!



Bless your hearts.

Laughing!............................




kingston,

Lovely Theory...yet wellllllllllllllllllll shy of the fact,as per the accompanying literature and actual USE. Hint. Congratulations?!:?

Ask me how I KNOW?



Still waiting to be reimbursed,which isn't "surprising" either.(grin)

Pardon my being afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!................................






'Bore,

Am thinking Vudoo #2 mated to the 22 Kreedmire,will easily ring the Bingo Bell daily and with ease. I'll happily dangle splendid Pixels and a critique,so others can partake.

Film at 11:00........................(grin)







Beaver',

Have had multiple 6mm Rem's,including 77's(MK I's and II's),B-78,Sako,Winny,600's and 700's. None can hang with a 243,due mechanics and that constant remains. Have also suffered 6AI to boot and would MUCH rather field a 6 Kreedmire,mainly because I've got/shot 'em all. There's much to be said for aligning RPM,throat geometry and COAL latitude. Further as mechanics go,Alpha brass simply stands alone and is without peer.

Though in fairness,I really don't shoot that many .243" bore chamberings.



As far as that goes,I'd rather gun a 6BR over a 6mm Rem or 6mm Rem AI,mainly because I've gunned 'em all,side by each.

Mechanics still matter...if only to the chagrin of Window Lickers everywhere.........................(grin)






'74,

I'm rather at ease in paying slack out on the rope and am MUCH looking forward to you "telling" me about a 308,or any other fhuqking chambering for that matter. Hint. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Feel free to take a swing at such things,cite boolit/speed particulars and I'll rub your nose further in your fhuqking STUPIDITY and make it look easy,if only because it is for me. Hint.

Looking forward to the HILARITY.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!......................







'500,

Gene reliably connects ALL dots and knocks it out of the park. Svelte Splendor,simply has no equal. Tell him I said "hey".

Spill your guts,on the findings......................

The yarder engineer of cutters, I picked up hitchhiker last night!!! Lmao


This must be one of the dinks you speak of???


Or this one???


Maybe this one???



How bout this one???



Maybe this one???
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This one????



Your evaluation of “dinks” is perty funny, like all your other lies, it is funny!!! Haha

Your right about 1 thing, I have no 95lb 65” Sitka bucks, nor a kelp fed beach bear that, really is the equivalent of a Texas high fence, obviously.... haha

Judging from the pm from a “pard” you gyped, or rather stole money from, a 22 magnum would suit your “style” just about right... Laffin

Your imagination and pretend you speak of all the time is funnier than fuuck!! You know I could hang pics for days, but unlike you I don’t wanna bore the valued members here with pics already posted before... HINT lmao

Jud......Wow! Awesome stuff.

Thanks uncle Johnny. I know you’ve seen em before, and more but someone had to be reminded of what dinks are.... haha

Oldy but a goody

Maybe she’s talkin about this one??? Lmao

Head bowed...Jud, all your animals are tops! Bet money you were eyeballing most, if not all thru a Leupold variable scope. Nothing but super fur and horns displayed. Awesome slaying career and you’ve still got miles left in your tank for more. 😎

Especially love the big muleys Jud......and your choice in tobacco ain't bad either.

The luxury of having not to guess—with extra imagination and pretend.

One is a hunters tool the other is a toy.
It’s easy to tell who kills and who wishes they could.

It might not be an Ingram, but that sword is no toy.