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Posted By: Shooter71 Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
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This Ruger .270 is like most of the others, killed a bunch of stuff without batting an eye. Owner wanted to spice it up so we fitted a Bartlein 2b chambered in .280AI .317 neck .100 throat. I had the pleasure of grinding out the stock to fit said barrel. First paddle I’ve molested and it felt great.
Posted By: yukon254 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Those were tough stocks. You did a nice job.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
It’d be abuse to have to carry one hunting. Lol .kidding
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Love those boatpaddle stocks.

Have 3 (.30-06 stls, .300WM and ,338WM stls) and still kicking myself for not purchasing a stainless .270 some years back at the Tanner gun show in Denver. IIRC, the seller wanted the ridiculous price of $225 and I offered $215. Went back first thing the next day and someone else was filling out the paperwork on it.

Snooze and lose.
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’d be abuse to have to carry one hunting. Lol .kidding


They ARE heavy sons o' guns !!!
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’d be abuse to have to carry one hunting. Lol .kidding


They ARE heavy sons o' guns !!!


Huh?

About 31ounces as they come from the factory, 33 with a plate and Limbsaver. [url]https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../re-ruger-boat-paddle-weight#Post4984291[/url\


Dang near indestructible and lighter than their wood counterparts.
Posted By: dave284 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’d be abuse to have to carry one hunting. Lol .kidding


They ARE ugly as Rosie's butt sons o' guns !!!





Fixt.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Gotta laugh.

They build a gun that no one wants, it doesn't sell all that well.
They end up at a clearance place at fire sale prices.


Then they are gone.

And someone notices "you know, they only made so many of them".


Suddenly, that ugly, weird, or oddball, is "exotic" and better than sex!

And the object of desire.


People are nucking futts!
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
My Ruger 77 Mk II in 280 is a battleship grade rifle. It has seen some rough treatment by accident but still keeps going. One day it locked up on me while stroking the bolt. When I looked down on it to determine the issue, it had a ton of fine silt on/in the action from riding on the ATV. Pretty rugged action.
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’d be abuse to have to carry one hunting. Lol .kidding


They ARE heavy sons o' guns !!!


Huh?

About 31ounces as they come from the factory, 33 with a plate and Limbsaver. [url]https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../re-ruger-boat-paddle-weight#Post4984291[/url\


Dang near indestructible and lighter than their wood counterparts.



To clarify...…...……………. I meant the rifle in whole. Not just the stock.

Have one in .300 Win Mag. It's no backpack rifle. Shoots very well and has accounted for a vast amount of venison. Ugly as a mud fence.
Posted By: JMR40 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/12/19
I never weighed one of the boat paddle stocks, but most factory wood or synthetics I have weighed were 30-32 oz. Exactly the same as the boat paddle stocks. ( according to the above link). I've had a couple of those rifles and couldn't get rid of the stocks fast enough. I ordered one of the newer Hawkeye synthetics for one rifle and simply sold the other rifle rather than deal with the stock.

I never found one to be any tougher or a bit more accurate. They are slick as snot to try to hold, the sling attachments suck, and the tiny butt plate concentrates recoil making them kick a lot harder than they should.
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by JMR40
I never weighed one of the boat paddle stocks, but most factory wood or synthetics I have weighed were 30-32 oz. Exactly the same as the boat paddle stocks. ( according to the above link). I've had a couple of those rifles and couldn't get rid of the stocks fast enough. I ordered one of the newer Hawkeye synthetics for one rifle and simply sold the other rifle rather than deal with the stock.

I never found one to be any tougher or a bit more accurate. They are slick as snot to try to hold, the sling attachments suck, and the tiny butt plate concentrates recoil making them kick a lot harder than they should.


But if you should ever be hunting and find yourself up a creek...…………………..
Posted By: rickt300 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Yeah. They are a fine backup boat paddle if you find yourself up a creek without one.
Posted By: Cariboujack Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by rickt300
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.


Put a Limbsaver recoil pad on it and they are no problem at all. I've shot them a lot. No problem what so ever.
Posted By: dye7barrel Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Always wanted one of those butt ugly guns.
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by rickt300
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.


Must be a YMMV thing....... The difference in actual and/or felt recoil between a .300 Win and a .338 Win in like rifles is negligible. I never found the .300 with the factory pad to be at all hateful. Considering the weight of the gun, it's actually, likely the softest shooting .300 I own or close to it.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Gotta laugh.
They build a gun that no one wants, it doesn't sell all that well.
They end up at a clearance place at fire sale prices.
Then they are gone.
And someone notices "you know, they only made so many of them".
Suddenly, that ugly, weird, or oddball, is "exotic" and better than sex!
And the object of desire.

People are nucking futts!


Bought my .300WM (blue) ror $395 on closeout at Sportsman's Warehouse in 2003. Figured it would satisfy my curiosity about the .300WM. It did. Heavier barrel than my 7mm RM, heavier overall, no more effective that I can tell. But the stock was relatively lightweight, sturdy and I didn't give a fig if it got dinged up.

In April of 2010 I bought a stainless MKII .30-06 with a brown laminate stock, which I still have. But I also bought a take-off boatpaddle, which it has worn ever since. Later in 2010 I built a custom MKII .338WM using a naked action, a take-off barrel from Caribou Jack (aka Bear Paw Jack) and a boat paddle purchased from gunpartscorp.com for about $75.

Love all of them. All have been on successful elk hunts, multiples for the .300WM and .338WM. Wet weather? Mud? Snow/ice? Dings and dents? Who cares?
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by rickt300
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.


Not fun, for sure. Put a Limbsaver on mine, problem solved.

.300WM, .30-06, .338WM
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Posted By: rickt300 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by rickt300
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.


Must be a YMMV thing....... The difference in actual and/or felt recoil between a .300 Win and a .338 Win in like rifles is negligible. I never found the .300 with the factory pad to be at all hateful. Considering the weight of the gun, it's actually, likely the softest shooting .300 I own or close to it.


I disagree on that! The 338 with 250 grain bullets loaded to top velocities out of that stainless Ruger I had was brutal! That rifle broke 4 scopes during initial sight in, ended up using an old weaver 4x. It did however with the one exception provide quick kills and was one rugged rifle.
Posted By: rickt300 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
I traded mine off for a Winchester OU in 20 gauge, best gun trade I ever did! I would still have that rifle if it had been in 30-06 or 308. I remember shooting the 338 over the hood of a friends Jeep Cherokee and the muzzle blast cracked his windshield! It was a pretty accurate rifle.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/13/19
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by rickt300
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.


Must be a YMMV thing....... The difference in actual and/or felt recoil between a .300 Win and a .338 Win in like rifles is negligible. I never found the .300 with the factory pad to be at all hateful. Considering the weight of the gun, it's actually, likely the softest shooting .300 I own or close to it.


I disagree on that! The 338 with 250 grain bullets loaded to top velocities out of that stainless Ruger I had was brutal! That rifle broke 4 scopes during initial sight in, ended up using an old weaver 4x. It did however with the one exception provide quick kills and was one rugged rifle.


No doubt a 250g loaded high will create a lot of recoil. For my 180g/.300WM and 225g/.338WM loads the difference is abut 28 pounds vs 32 pounds recoil. I reserve "brutal" for my .45-70 "Rhino Blaster" loads, 460g @ 1812fps and over 50ft-lbs recoil. And the "Max Dram Equivalent" 3-1/2" turkey loads.
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/14/19
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by rickt300
I would be interested to know the rockwell hardness of the buttpad! Brutal in the 338 I had.


Must be a YMMV thing....... The difference in actual and/or felt recoil between a .300 Win and a .338 Win in like rifles is negligible. I never found the .300 with the factory pad to be at all hateful. Considering the weight of the gun, it's actually, likely the softest shooting .300 I own or close to it.


I disagree on that! The 338 with 250 grain bullets loaded to top velocities out of that stainless Ruger I had was brutal! That rifle broke 4 scopes during initial sight in, ended up using an old weaver 4x. It did however with the one exception provide quick kills and was one rugged rifle.


No doubt a 250g loaded high will create a lot of recoil. For my 180g/.300WM and 225g/.338WM lods the difference is abut 28 pounds vs 32 pounds recoil. I reserve "brutal" for my .45-70 "Rhino Blaster" loads, 460g @ 1812fps and over 50ft-lbs recoil. And the "Max Dram Equivalent" 3-1/2" turkey loads.


28 pounds...………………….32 pounds...……….34 pounds...………………. Kinda what I was getting at. Not a significant difference.

Not sure how you managed to break 4 scopes with it sighting it in. Just wasn't your day, maybe. I've not shot any .338 Win that I'd call "brutal". Shot a lightweight .338 Rum that was a fun ride. Still not "brutal". But definitely
snappy.

YMMV


Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/14/19
Had a .308 and a 77/22. Prefer the new synthetics pretty much across the board, and also the Hawkeye's all-steel bottom metal.

The butt of that .308 was narrow and hard. The loop swivel on the front of the BPs is a PITA, and I always had a nagging fear it would pop off the stud. Apparently, I'm not the only one, based on all the ones I see pictured that have had their "collectability" forever ruined by replacing the loop with a regular stud.

I do wish I had a few nice ones stashed away so I could sell them at a nice profit to the admirers. "To each his own", said the lady as she kissed the cow.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
One of mine had the studs installed by the previous owner. I was first owner for the other two and they have the loops, as pictured above. I prefer the studs.
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
Anyone ever re-grip theirs with the wooden inserts ??

Never was sure if that was cool or if that was gay...…………….. grin
Posted By: Cariboujack Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
Gay. laugh
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Gay. laugh


grin grin grin
Posted By: Fotis Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
It’d be abuse to have to carry one hunting. Lol .kidding


No doubt. Really hard on the eyes big time. Like a Glock!
Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
Price on these things fluctuate like crazy. There is a market for them currently
Posted By: MedRiver Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/16/19
I have liked them since before they were cool. Have owned lots of them in lots of chamberings. Down to a 77/22, 77/22 Mag, .35 Whelen, and .300 Win Mag.
Posted By: DeanAnderson Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/19/19
One moose trip, I literally had to us my boat paddle 338 win mag as a canoe paddle!
Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/19/19
Originally Posted by DeanAnderson
One moose trip, I literally had to us my boat paddle 338 win mag as a canoe paddle!


And did it work as advertised ?? grin
Posted By: DeanAnderson Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/20/19
I'm back to write about it! Lol!
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/20/19
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Anyone ever re-grip theirs with the wooden inserts ??

Never was sure if that was cool or if that was gay...…………….. grin


Sold the wooden grips on my .300WM to someone for $50. Ordered the synthetics from Ruger. Found they take a different screws and had to order those as well.

Didn't like the wooden grips because they weren't as impervious to weather as the synthetics. Couldn't help but wonder what I would do 20 years later if one broke. It's been 15 years and still glad I made the swap.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/20/19
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Gay. laugh


Glad I got synthetics when I put your barrel on my Frankenstein .338WM!

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Posted By: NMiller Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/20/19
I saw some inserts made from antler, those would probably hold up well and offer some visual appeal.
Posted By: Savuti Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/20/19
From my notes on weights of boat paddles.

Mold # (in forearm) "434" SA UL, .223 - 2.01 lbs
"436" SA Sporter , .223 - 1.99 Lbs
"438" LA Sporter, .280 - 1.93 Lbs

Multiply by 16 for ounces.
Posted By: Cariboujack Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/21/19
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Gay. laugh


Glad I got synthetics when I put your barrel on my Frankenstein .338WM!

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Me Too. laugh laugh laugh Sorry I didn't think that through better, but you were more prepared to actually use it, and I'm glad you are happy with it.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/22/19
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
Gay. laugh


Glad I got synthetics when I put your barrel on my Frankenstein .338WM!

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Me Too. laugh laugh laugh Sorry I didn't think that through better, but you were more prepared to actually use it, and I'm glad you are happy with it.



The only problem I had with the barrel was the front sight was a bit off vertical. I suspect when the first owner had it fluted he also had shortened from 24" to 22" and the 'smith did a less than perfect job remounting the sight. Had my 'smith fix that when he mounted the barrel. It's been a tack driver with 225g bullets. First time at 600 it took me three shots to kill a clay pigeon. Two elk with that rifle, including my longest at 487 yards. You're welcome to shoot it any time you come to Colorado. smile

Posted By: mikieb Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 05/22/19
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Gotta laugh.

They build a gun that no one wants, it doesn't sell all that well.
They end up at a clearance place at fire sale prices.
Then they are gone.
And someone notices "you know, they only made so many of them".
Suddenly, that ugly, weird, or oddball, is "exotic" and better than sex!
And the object of desire.

People are nucking futts!


I remember seeing gun racks full of those things... nobody wanted them.... you could buy one all day long for $350 and if you could just wait they sold brand new for even less.. I have one in a .22 mag... a short search on gun broker.com and the current value is just nuts... I love that gun.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/13/19
Originally Posted by mikieb
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Gotta laugh.

They build a gun that no one wants, it doesn't sell all that well.
They end up at a clearance place at fire sale prices.
Then they are gone.
And someone notices "you know, they only made so many of them".
Suddenly, that ugly, weird, or oddball, is "exotic" and better than sex!
And the object of desire.

People are nucking futts!


I remember seeing gun racks full of those things... nobody wanted them.... you could buy one all day long for $350 and if you could just wait they sold brand new for even less.. I have one in a .22 mag... a short search on gun broker.com and the current value is just nuts... I love that gun.


That's when i got my first - when they were sitting on the shelves gathering dust. 2003 manufacture purchased in December of 2004, .300WM for $375. It has been a great rifle.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/13/19
I have one in 7 Rem mag and my friend has one in 300 win. The 300 win has quite a bit heavier barrel contour on it than my 7 mm. I much prefer the balance of my 7mm. I need a SA boat paddle stock to put a different stainless 22" 7 wsm I have in. It's currently in the wood laminate it came in.

Bb
Posted By: Seafire Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/13/19
Use to have about a dozen of the boat paddle stocks....

just gave them away, one at a time, long before I knew people liked them...

all the rifles that they were taken off of, ended up with Boyd's Laminate Stocks...

Got two left... both still on rifles...
Posted By: Dave_in_WV Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/13/19
I bought a stainless MKII 243 in '92 or '93. I intended to put a laminate stock on it. Son "High Brass" bought a late MKII stainless 308 with a brown Hawkeye laminate stock and wanted to trade stocks which I did. His best friend Ryan "RYE77" has his rifle now and wanted a laminate stock so we traded stocks. The laminate stock is better looking but those butt ugly boat paddles sure are solid and functional.
Posted By: lastround Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/13/19
I’ve got two boat paddles, but they are put away in boxes. I ordered two Hawkeye synthetics and replaced the ugly assed BP’s on both. No, they are not for sale. If I ever sell the rifles, they will go back on, but that is unlikely. (Maybe my heirs)
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/13/19
Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV
I bought a stainless MKII 243 in '92 or '93. I intended to put a laminate stock on it. Son "High Brass" bought a late MKII stainless 308 with a brown Hawkeye laminate stock and wanted to trade stocks which I did. His best friend Ryan "RYE77" has his rifle now and wanted a laminae stock so we traded stocks. The laminate stock is better looking but those butt ugly boat paddles sure are solid and functional.


My stainless .30-06 came in a nutmeg laminate factory stock. Nice looking.

First thing I did to it was replace the stock with a take-off .270 Win stock, Better. smile
Posted By: MadDog4298 Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/14/19
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Gotta laugh.

They build a gun that no one wants, it doesn't sell all that well.
They end up at a clearance place at fire sale prices.


Then they are gone.

And someone notices "you know, they only made so many of them".


Suddenly, that ugly, weird, or oddball, is "exotic" and better than sex!

And the object of desire.


People are nucking futts!

Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Gotta laugh.

They build a gun that no one wants, it doesn't sell all that well.
They end up at a clearance place at fire sale prices.


Then they are gone.

And someone notices "you know, they only made so many of them".


Suddenly, that ugly, weird, or oddball, is "exotic" and better than sex!

And the object of desire.


People are nucking futts!


Truer words have never been spoken. They didn’t sell worth a crap around here.
Posted By: viking Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/14/19
Sorry fans, but they do nothing for me. They might be practical but I don’t want one.
Posted By: irfubar Re: Boat paddle abuse.. - 12/14/19
The whole premise of this thread has me confused? how can you abuse a Ruger boat paddle?

Maybe throw it into the ocean? drive your truck over it? even after that they will prolly still function fine...
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