....maybe?

I hadn’t been interested in many new 700’s for a while until I bought a few of these for the shelf. I walked by it for a couple days and decided what the heck. I like the 20” magnum contour and it’s threaded (I have several cans). The B&C stock feels decent too. Overall, the rifle is of better quality than I’ve seen from them in the recent past.

Had a rep give me a few boxes of the new Sierras and I threw on a VX5. Got home and shot it. I’m impressed!

It may not be the perfect whitetail combo, but it’s fun to play with!

They make a LH version?

Thread not to long ago here, folks biitching about that rifle, damn nice, well thought out ... what are you guys selling em for?

No lefty’s.

Right at a grand. Like $979 I think.

The rifle reminds me of a Howa Alpine on steroids.

Derrick

Is the Sierra ammo available?

That’ll put a KY dink in the freezer..

Yep

PM sent

Copy thanks, have a hard time building one for that... Looks like a dandy.

I have you to thank for my "perfect whitetail combo". It is a Christensen Arms Ridgeline with a 20 inch barrel. I have a can for it, and am interested in the ammunition you have posted. The 130 grain Tipped Gameking. Should be the equivalent of Deer Cyanide.

I like it. If they'd gone stainless (at least on the barrel) it be all that and a box of chocolates.

I agree.....I might would be interested if available in .308 Win which it aint👎🏿.........Hb

IIRC, those are stainless w/ black ceracote.....

I dunno bro.

For a grand that 7-08 threaded Fieldcraft you just sold would be hard to beat.

I like it. It would be a good deer stand rifle but still light/handy enough to tote around. I'd like to see it in some other calibers.

Haha wow....

I have had quite a few 700’s. All shot well, just bought a used C grade, eager to see how it shoots.

I was thinking it might be as well but when I looked up the specs the barrel material is listed as carbon steel:

https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-nra-american-hunter

Looks heavy.

my thought on the perfect whitetail combo rifle is or might be different than someone in Texas , since i hunt near the Canadian border and only for older whitetail bucks. these older bucks live weight are around 225 lbs. - 325 lbs. ,so myself i prefer a larger cartridge so i am able to most of the time knock that buck down hard and fast. where i hunt on my land in a tamarac swamp i have cut and maintain shooting lanes out to 300 yards ,lanes are 20 feet wide so i don`t have alot of time for more than one shot. i like a Ruger #1 because its shorter because it does not have a reciever so it swings up and out my enclosed stand faster. the reason for a enclosed stand its quieter,no scent outside of enclosed stand ,as long as you keep windows shut tel you make the shot,its warmer and dryer too,my movement isn`t seen either. so for me a rifle that is accurate,shoots that one shot fast and has plenty power is a Ruger #1 in a 257 Weatherby Mag. with a Nightforce scope,i use this same rifle out west with a bi-pod then ,my son has one too. >believe me this grand old cartridge the 257 Weatherby Mag. is still a great buck slayer shoots a long ways out fast and hard. good luck this fall,Pete53

Easy decision when you post FC's for ~1050

Maybe for you, but not for me.

If the Tikka T3/CTR didn't exist, I would be all about this rifle.

To my eyes, its about the most well thought out 700 and that Rem has offered in some time.

I'd consider it, but only to find one used here in a year or 2 for closer to $700

Which version did you buy and not like, threaded, non-threaded, 30-06, Creed?

As I get older, I'm liking shorter barrels more and more. I also like the option to use a suppressor. Like Scott said on here many moons ago, "I've never heard anybody say I could have made that shot with a longer barrel".

It is a pretty well thought out rifle. It's not as heavy as it appears either. I primarily a whitetail hunter. I hunt from tree stands and blinds. My longest walk is about 1/2 mile. Weight isn't an issue for me. If I were in a different locale and hunting other animals, I'd carry one of my lighter options.

While we're on the subject, I do think the Barrett Fieldcraft is probably the finest stainless production rifle on the market right now. To call it a production rifle isn't really fair either. The all get some custom attention. Personally, I'm just not crazy about the stock ergo's. If that rifle was in the Kimber Montana stock, I'd probably have 4 or 5 of them!

This is close to what I think would be the best whitetail gun. I would go 308 and a McMillan, oh, and sweep back that bolt handle. It looks awful at that angle.

Not hot for the H-S stock, it isn't stainless, I don't do suppressors, and if I had $1,000 to spend any way that I wanted to, it probably wouldn't be on another Remington Seven.

I own, and have owned, a pile of Remington Sevens and the only two that I really like are a matched pair of stainless barreled actions in 223 and 260 that are bedded in the laminated mannlicher stocks from the Remington Custom Shop.

I have hundreds of CF rifles, so in order for me to be motivated to buy another one, it has to scratch an itch or be exceptionally uncommon or priced so low that to not buy it would be almost irresponsible.

Model Seven? If you are talking about the OP's rifle its a model 700......Hb

My bad, I thought that was the Model Seven with the H-S stock, but I see that it is a 700 with a B&C stock. Remington lists it an the 700 NRA American Hunter with a MSRP of $1,349.

Remington claims the following specs:

20" fluted barrel with 5R rifling and threaded muzzle
Improved barrel surface finish in the bore
Overall Length of 39 3/8"
Twist Rate: 1:8
Mag Capacity: 4+1
Remington receiver and barrel with custom level blueprint machining and tolerances
Durable black Cerakote finish on barreled action
Premium Bell & Carlson stock with aluminum bedding block
Upgraded Leupold Mark 4 scope bases with 8-40 screws
Distinctively engraved floorplateb
Unique serial number dedicated to this limited edition offering
Enhanced and externally adjustable X Mark Pro trigger

Call me skeptical, but I wonder if a production rifle can really have custom level blueprint machining and tolerance. People pay $1,349 or more for 700 action clones that really are custom level, but Remington claims that they can do the whole package for less that the $979 that Whittaker's is selling them for and still make a profit doing so?

That was the point I was making earlier, a Fieldcraft was listed for ~1050 in the last few days and Remington does not have a ticket to the race much less a place on the track.

Even at full retail Remington is not even close to Barrett in quality or accuracy.

I built a rifle similar to this one about 20 years ago for the kids. Factory Rem 700 .243 cut down to 20". Put it in a 12.5" LOP Rynite ADL stock. It accounted for far more than it's fair share of KY WT's... A Left Hand version of this rifle would be tempting...

As I said earlier in the thread, the Barrett is a phenomenal rifle. You won’t see more at that price. That was a personal rifle of mine I’d put back on the shelf. I have a plethora of lightweight rifles and that one just didn’t turn me on any longer. I also have 9 other 7mm-08’s.

And the quality of this Remington rifle far surpasses what I’ve seen from them in a while. I think this specific run (2000 or so rifles?) is a big step above their typical production rifle. Fit and finish are superb. I hadn’t shot it much, but so far I hadn’t seen any reason to believe many others will trump it straight out of the box. Random ammo, random scope, 1/2” group. I’ve been through hundreds of rifles and very few have done that. I hadn’t measured the throat and I know it doesn’t have a 3” mag box, but I’d bet you it will shoot as well as any hunting rifle at a similar price point. I also know Ruger American’s and Tikka’s commonly do the same thing for less money.

This Remington is worthy of a look to those interested in something different. Look one over the next time you’re out shopping. You’ll see why I’m saying the quality is a step above what we’ve seen from Remington in a while.

Savage 99 250-3000.

Thanks for the pics and short review SAS, These are obviously nicer than the standard SPS type rifles offered, as are the Gen 2 5R and other “high end” 700 models.

I don’t get why some of you are crapping on them preemptively, especially when you’re not even discussing the correct model...SAS is telling you they’re nice and this one obviously shoots pretty well.

I'm still hoping/waiting for the RARs in 17HM2 to arrive in Owensboro, so that you can send one, maybe two, on to me in Omaha.

Funny you mention that. That’s the one rifle I’d like to own, but don’t.

I did order some of these for the shop though.

https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=125th

I’m keeping one in 250 “just because”.

While I’m on Savage rifles, we sell a ton. I’m not a Savage guy either. Consumers continue to suck them up. We go through a bunch of 110 Storms, several of the cheap Axis models as well.

The 110 Storm has some unique features. The mag box is almost 3”. Three position tang safety. Modular stock system. Although I don’t care for the accutrigger, it does adjust nicely and break clean. Most are extremely accurate. Their gas system is really good. They offer tons of left hand models. Maybe that’s why they sell? I just never really give them a second look. I think it’s because it says “Savage”. Kinda like Bear bows. Both of their names were synonymous with cheap, KMart products in my youth.

I wonder what small dealer wholesale price is for them? Big dealer wholesale must be pretty low if they are showing up on GB with starting bids at about 2/3 of what Darrik is asking.

I'm skeptical of production rifles that claim custom rifle specs and are being offered for less than the price of a true custom action. Colt couldn't do it with the CLR when they bought ULA from Mel Forbes and Remington has a well documented history of introducing and then dropping some of their better configurations.

That said, Darrik is a great guy and I believe that he is as honest and sincere a person who posts on this site. He has demonstrated that he is a friend to people who participate on this site by going out of his way to order small lots of rifles in specs that rifle loonies like us call for, the RARs in 22-250 with a 1-8" ROT barrel come to mind and I'm sure that there are other examples of his looking out for us. Who but Darrik would contract with Ruger to make a small run of RARs in 17HM2 when there are probably only a couple thousand fans in the entire U.S.A.?

If only he had some influence with CCI/Hornady to make Eley-grade 17HM2 ammo, then the 17HM2 clan would think that they'd died and gone to squirrel shooting Heaven.

I would not be so fast to say that, the few Fieldcrafts I have been around were accurate but I wouldn't call them "tack drivers" and I have had more than a few off the shelf Remington model 700's that were for 1/2 the price of a Fieldcraft 👍.......Hb

I expect them fairly soon. They keep telling me they’re close. They’ll be listed on here first. And I’ve figured out a way to hold some back in case guys try to suck them up in minutes. I’ll have an item number just for members here.

Somewhere in the sentence you’ll find the answer if you look nine hundred fifty two times. And when you find the answer, you’ll know that’s the cheapest cost from any distributor in the country.

I’m not sure on dealer price, but I had been watching these on G.B. for a couple weeks prior to Darrik posting about them here. Most are listed at full MSRP, cheapest ones seem to be selling close to a grand. I bid $750 on one and it ended up selling for about $900

If anyone here wants one, or if I pulled the trigger on one, might as well just buy it from Whittaker’s.

I’m with you on the appreciation for Darrik and Whittaker’s, good people in all my dealings with them

900 is well below cost.

By like fifty two dollars?

I really like a tang safety. It's always seemed natural to use and still out of the way with a low profile.

And that wouldn’t have included shipping, and probably CC fees..

Amen!

😀

And 42cents to be exact.

+2

IMO, the Montana stock with the somewhat closed grip of the FC would be Nirvana...

Probably.
A custom action uses the same amount of material, incon$iquential.
And the same machining.
But to tight standards.
R has been improving quality, if the set tolerances tight enough, it would work.

I have read reports from several Smith's who have worked on Tikka's,
They say the actions are right on, nothing needed.
If Sako can do it, Remington could. Will they.
Sell the stock from a T3x, buy a B&C.
Your under Remingtons price.


Yes, it's defiantly possible.

Defiantly is definitely the way to approach this quandary.

Threw on an AAC suppressor and slung some 143 ELD-X’s. POI shift, but accuracy is still there around 1/2”ish.

I need to better edit my spell check.
Its supposed to help me,
and I need the help.

That’s a pretty slick rig.... kinda like a CTR, but set-up more like a “hunting” rifle.

I’m curious what those 130 Sierra factory loads clocked out of the 20” pipe.

Ya'll spend your money on whatever you please, but Whittaker's is where I will send mine but it won't be for a Remington over a Barrett.

The item description for these on remingtons website says the trigger is factory tuned to 3.5#. Do you buy that SAS, and would you say these “need” a Timney or triggertech like most other 700s ?

Come on now it’s 24hour most here would bitch about free beer..

Darrik, what does that rifle weigh bare? Rem doesn’t list any weights for it. Looks like a similar rifle to the old LVSF with a different shaped stock and a bit shorter barrel.

Remington's website says 6.75

Yep. The L/R arrows to scroll through the specs aren't very intuitive so rifle weights aren't present at first blush unless you go digging.

That’s a nice bare bones weight.

Any reasonable hunting scope and rings and rounds will keep you under 9. And that’s probably about right for most any guns that aren’t being totted up the steep stuff.

Flute the bolt, ditch the pic bases for Talleys, drop it in an Edge, and you could start approaching 8lb all up if done right.

i wouldnt mind one of those in 250 savage to go with ... well ... all my other 250 savages

Build it in stainless steel, ditch the NRA reference, and offer it for the same price, and it would be worth buying. Otherwise, might as well build.

Agreed on the Fieldcraft. The stock design sucks.

If any of you had a more well designed face you'd like the FC better. You all have poor facial structures....no matter what your mamma's told you. ...grin...

What's wrong with the FC ergos? Curious.

The quality of the stock is great. It just doesn’t fit me right. I think it’s the angle of my wrist/diameter of the grip/LOP when I’m shouldering the rifle. I can live with it, don’t hate it, just don’t love it.

I never really liked Melvin's stock either though.

I’ll put it on a gauge later. If it’s not 3.5# on the money, it’s close. It doesn’t need a Timney or Trigger Tech, but either would always be an improvement.

One is filet, one is hamburger. This is my experience with those brands.

Well said, and I completely agree. Also, the comb isn't high enough for the available scope mounts.

Funny thing is I spec a 13 3/4" LOP when I custom order a stock for myself, so the Barrett ought to fit in the LOP department....but somehow it still feels long.

That is my opinion also. Melvin's stocks do not fit me, and neither do the Fieldcrafts.

the perfect rifle for whitetail deer seems to vary from place to place. Where I do most of my hunting, deep in a north Florida swamp, or along a forest stream, I don't get many shots longer than 50 yards. The rifle that has done the best for me is a Marlin 1894 in .44 Magnum. I have a Nikon African 1-4X scope on it, with a German #4 reticle.
For the past two years, I have supplemented the lever carbine with a Ruger Ranch bolt rifle in 7.62x39. This one might wind up replacing the Marlin for being just what I need.

The perfect deer rifle? Interesting topic and my choice might be one I never used yet. That rifle is a left hand Ruger Hawkeye in 300 RCM. Ruger designed the stock with a slightly shorter LOP, 20 inch barrel complete with factory irons, and the normal built in scope base and free rings. All for $500 on sale when CDNN was clearing them out.
The shorter stock permits the rifle to be shouldered faster, especially with a hunting coat on. It should shoot any bullet weight the 06 can at a slightly faster velocity. Overkill for the whitetails of the size we hunt at the distances we normally shoot. But we never know when a big piggy might show itself.

A 44 mag long gun works well in mid TN too.

94 30-30 PERFECT!

My go to rifle is a 30-06 Fieldcraft with a 3.5-10X40 Leupold VX3, or a SS Tikka 243 with 3-9X40 VX1, or a SS Tikka 30-06 with 3-9X40 VX1, or a Remington AWR 30-06 with a 3.5-10X40 VX3, or a Weatherby Vangaurd with a 3-9X40 VX2, or a Savage Weather Warrior 30-06 with a 3.5-40 VX3, or a Semi Custom Remington 700 300 SAUM with a 3.5-10X40 CDS VX3, or a Sendero 300SAUM with a 4.5-14X40 CDS VX3. etc etc I choose my rifle based on where I am hunting at the time and I have a hard time choosing! LOL I have a problem. Seems like I wind up carrying the Savage more than anything though. Just a good utilitarian rifle that I am not so worried about damage or weather.

HeavyBarrel

I’d be much more interested if they had made it in stainless underneath that cerakote.

Savage 99. 358 Winchester

Put me at +3 or +4. The FC stock feels like a warmed over Forbes stock. Feels like a square piece of wood with rounded off corners.

For me, best ever factory stock is the Kimber Ascent. At one point in time, I was trying to buy an extra Kimber Ascent stock to fit to a Left Hand Forbes rifle. Never could find a spare Ascent stock, so sold the LH Forbes rifle and the RH Ascent.

ETA: Even tho I am thinning the herd, if Kimber ever offered a LH Ascent in .243Win, 6.5CM, 6.5x55, or .270Win, I would buy one sight unseen.

Dad (lastround) traded in a couple rifles for a Barrett Fieldcraft today. He got the special edition with the #2 contour, green stock and black cerakote. He bought the 6.5 Creedmoor. I bet it the all up weight isn’t 7 pounds. It shoots exceptionally well - we had to try it out!

It could possibly be the more perfecter combo. Barrett quality and consistency still amazes me. Like I said earlier in the thread, I believe they’re the highest quality production (actually semi custom) rifle on the market today.

I recently bought the Lipsey’s Special run Barrett FC 6.5CM w/ 24” no.2 bbl. (the exact one I lobbied for, Whittaker’s proposed, and Barrett rejected). It’s a fine little rifle that groups 140 NAB’s into .6” groups. I just wish Whittaker’s had gotten my $...

Did he get the 22" threaded or 24" non-threaded with green stock?

The 22" #2 is my cup of tea. All that and a box of chocolates. They should be marketed as an anti-depressant......5 shots, go look at the target and just smile.

But, but, but..... Doug, shooting a Creedmoor? 😜

Yep...and he likes it!

24” non threaded. We just shot some factory ammo. Pretty impressive.

Brad,

That’s the same rifle dad has, but has the green stock and black cerakote. I can’t remember where I got them, but I think it was a buy group deal. Little better direct pricing than that model and I thought they’d move a little better in the unique configuration.

The deal I was trying to get worked out had a cut rifle barrel. And I’ll still take your money any time you want to send it 😀😀

Damn Remington Outdoors Co, formally Freedom Group... BTW, how many weeks did it take to get that rifle zeroed?

Sweet. I hope he enjoy's the heck out of it.

I agree on the FC's rifles rating up there at the top of the quality heap. Another I'd put in that category is the Seekins PH1. Neither of those makers are low cost, but I think you get your $'s worth and more from them.

Ahh, I'd forgotten you wanted a cut barrel. I'm not a Ceracote guy, so I opted for the Lipsey's model from our own warpig602 who was a real pleasure to deal with.

Brad be pimpin' da bling with the silver TLW's......

Marty,
I think I have drank the Coolaid! I’m still a large fan of the 7mm-08, but this Barrett in 6.5 CM is sweet! Darrik and I took it down to the range with some factory ammo (143 gr. ELDX and 130 gr. Tipped Gamekings) and after getting on paper, it immediately put both bullets into less than an inch with both of us shooting. I’m impressed! I can’t wait to see what I can get handloads to do.

As an aside, I usually shoot 3-shot groups from the bench, but this rifle was shooting so well I had to try a 5-shot. It put all five in a nice cluster measuring slightly less than an inch with the Sierra 130 gr. Tipped Gameking factory load. Like I said, I’m impressed!

My perfect whitetail combo for the last 37 years has been a first year (1981) Remington 700 Classic, 270 Win. topped with a Leupold M8 4X. More often than not shooting 130 gr. Partitions, but have used factory ammo. Shoot bucks just behind the front shoulder in the ribs, lots of them went right down and an equal mount have embarked on the 50 yard death run. I’m proud to say I’ve never lost a buck that I’ve hit.

A very practical combination I'd say.

just take a 3006 in almost any combo and your set !! 2cent worth.

Hopefully, this is the start of Remington doing things "right" in building their rifles again.

It is a very nice package, that's for sure.

For whitetail only... why?

never been a deer made that a 3006 can't do in ! the title said deer.

What scope?

Agreed, but it's a LOT of cartridge. I've found it absolutely ideal for elk. Perhaps, the "ideal" elk cartridge.

But for diminutive WT deer, there are many lighter recoiling rounds that are more fun to use... no?

Hard to argue with a light kicking 7-08 or 6.5 Creed IMO. I'm not into lightweights, so something like the OP showed would be great. A 7mm08/120 BT combo is a deer killing machine.

Carbon steel got the job done until the 1970’s

3 of the 5 best shooting rifles I have are carbon steel. they are Remington factory barrels too.

I used Talley LW’s to mount a Leupold VX 3i 3.5-10x40 with B&C reticle.

Yes, they'll shoot and are plenty functional...but...if weather resistance is a concern, there's no way around the fact that stainless is more resistant to rust.

That fence post pic is great Brad. Absolutely beautiful country there.

Never been a deer made that a 243 Win can't do in either.

I couldn' resist the Weatherby Vanguard 2, MOA select, for $249. Last Summer Walmart clearance. The fancy walnut version was $349..... 3006.... Sighted in with junky Red Head scope, under 10 rounds.... 2 stage trigger is excellent, as is 3 stage safety, nice upgrades to the original Vanguards. The barrelled action of course is a Howa 1500. The Weatherby stock, and assembly in US is fine, with fit and finish great. Palm swell, just feels like a great mountain rifle. I am reluctant
to change out the scope, as it shoots so well. 1 shot buck kill, on spot last season...