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Posted By: Spotshooter Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
I feel my winchester feeds the best of any rifle I've owned.

Is the normal or do others feed better.

Spot
Posted By: OldRemmington Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Spotshooter, this will be a highly controversial subject. And by the looks of your registration date, you've been around long enough to know better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I like my Remingtons, but the Winchester's I have feed nice too, so I am on the fence. Think I'll just sit back and watch the rest of this play out.

Reguards, Rob
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
I couldn't remember the subject of feeding, but do remember some action quality posts.

I'm not really making a fair assesment here, I'm comparing a winchester custom shop super grade to all others I've owned. Remy, Ruger, Browning, Tikka, I've never owned a Sako, blazer, or sauer.

It is a "well" vs. a box magazine (which I tend to like) also.

I was just extremely impressed that I could drop a round in on top of the follower and feed it no matter what angle the action was at (save upside down).

Spot
Posted By: handwerk Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Of all the rifles I've owned, the best feeders have been sako model 75's with their detachable mag, long, short, fat or ugly; they've feed them all without issue.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
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Of all the rifles I've owned, the best feeders have been sako model 75's with their detachable mag, long, short, fat or ugly; they've feed them all without issue.
+1
Posted By: Teal Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Never thought about it - I usually feed ammo at a high rate of speed - thus ramming the bolt back and forth as fast as possible, much like I would in the field on a follow up shot. That tends to negate any "roughness" or anything. That being said I never had a feeding problem with my Rugers. The all extracted and fed the round without a hiccup.
Posted By: martinbns Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
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Of all the rifles I've owned, the best feeders have been sako model 75's with their detachable mag, long, short, fat or ugly; they've feed them all without issue.


+2 and second best are the two Sako's I own from the previous series, an A1 in 23 and an AV in 300 WIn mag
Posted By: CWORETIRED Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
+3 for the Sako 75
Posted By: allenday Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Properly reworked, tuned, and adjusted, a CRF Model 70 action feeds better than anything else, with a fine-tuned Mauser 98-pattern action being a very close second.

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Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
I think a rack grade M1,would give lotsa things a run for their money,weighing feed/function,extrapolated by round count.

Always cracked me up how "Africa Guys" sang feed/function virtues of a given platform,after shooting 9 shots outta the back of a Jeep,over 2wks.

Compelling testimony,give or take....................
Posted By: J_Scott Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
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Posted By: allenday Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
There's a qualified opinion for you.............. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

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How many steps to get a Mod 70 RIGHT? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Still like the mausers though followed by a SAKO
Posted By: 1B Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Mannlicher Scheonauer by far! Light years in fact. No longer made but the cloesest thing to a Porsche manual shifter you will ever try in a rifle.

1B
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
I'll tell ya what, after having the custom job slide rounds like silk it kind of ruins you on the abolt feed.

now, now don't start, I'll still take the abolt tang safety over all of them. Albeit I may need to put some axle grease on that bolt stop pin, or just remove it completely.

Spot
Posted By: SharpsShooter Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Spot, I had this very conversation with Hondo while he was here last weekend. I have got a Niseka in 6.5-06 that feeds fair. Not bad, but if you put four in the magazine you are asking for trouble. Works most of the time, but not all. I also have a 30-338 that is built on a Rem. 700 ADL style with a Brown Precision stock. Was built in the early '80's and is now having the 5th gunsmith work on it. It has never fed well. Two rounds in the magazine and then single in the third round to the chamber and everything will work. Put that third round in the magazine and it screws up regularly especially if you cycle the bolt slowly.

On the other hand I have been shooting a 1949 Win. 70 in 30-06 lately. I have never experienced a better feeding bolt gun. Slick and positive under all conditions. It has been a nice change of pace.

I guess I still prefer single shots, but the Pre. 64 70 if pretty good.

SS
Posted By: JBabcock Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
The best I've owned was a pre-64, '06 and a couple of FN 98's chambered in 30-06.

Still have the FN 98. My Model 70 SS Classic in 338 isn't bad either. Slides em slow or fast.
Posted By: kutenay Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
My experience has been that my Mannlicher-Schoenauer, then my Oberndorf Mauser Type 40 and my Brno 21H rifles are the best feeding ones I have tried, over-all, WHEN left in the factory chambering. I also have found P-64 Mod. 70s, especially the H&H ones to be outstanding, after owning and using eight of these rifles so chambered over the years.

My Dakota 76 is now excellent, but, required some tweaking, a REAL PITA in a rifle of this cost, I have also found FN-LE sporters to perform very well, but, the P-64 feels slightly smoother to me.

I am getting REAL interested in a Hein "Trophy Palouse" in .338 Win. and would expect stellar performance from it.
Posted By: combo Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
The hands-down best feeder I've ever shot or owned is my stock Ruger 10/22. It's had about a gazillion rounds through it, rarely gets cleaned, and never fails.
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Of the crf's that I have I rate the 99 Savage the best by far. First of all because its faster to operate than any bolt and second because it feeds just right. The 99's do have a very small extractor however but the ones I have have always worked fine.

I remember the Mannlicher Schoenauer as feeding very well but the action is an abomination otherwise as it's bolt is way too far forward for easy operation and it's pistol grip is no where near the front, firing, trigger. I was talking guns long ago with the late Elihu Lyman sr. on how much I liked the 99 for hunting and how I thought it would have made a better military rifle than the Springfield and he said that the rotary magazines on them froze up in the testing.

As to HH cartridge feeding better than rimless I have not noticed a difference. If a rifle feeds perfectly, such as my pre 64 M70's in 243, 308, 30-06, 300HH, 358 and 375 HH then how can I say one is much better?

The Brno 21H and 22F that I have do not feed all that well crf as they were chamberd by Brno in the wrong rounds for the long action. That line is rife with design mistakes. The feeding problem with the ones I have is that the short 7X57 and 8X57's will move forward in the magazine from recoil. This leaves the base of the round forward in the magazine.

If the shooter fails to draw the bolt all the way back to the ejector then the cartridge will not be ejected. Now if the bolt is pushed forward at this point a round from the magazine will be loaded into the chamber parallel to the round still above it and a double feed jam will happen.

The Brnos that I have are by far the worst as the ejectors are also too short.

Some of the Rugers feed quite well but I get some bobbles now and then from my Kimbers but no jams so far.

The reference to the autoloader must be qualified as it's the manual operated gun that might jam do to erratic out of sequence movement of the bolt by the operator.
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
To add that Mike 375, who I don't see on AR these days, likes the single stacked Weatherby system for feeding.

Now you don't get crf or a lot of rounds in the magazine either so thats a takeback but thats what he uses much of the time.
Posted By: kutenay Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
...That line is rife with design mistakes...what utter bullschitt from someone who has TWO of these superb rifles to play "hunter" with in suburbia for maybe three years. The comments about the MS are more drivel from a "wannabe/neverwas" who totally ignores the experiences of men with vast field experience, often referring to them as "old guys" and posts his nonsense based on "bubba'ed" rifles. What next, the usual crap about how Echol's "Legends" are not worth the price and so on, ad nauseum?

I recently took one of my Brno 21H actions and loaded five rounds into it, this action is bonestock and I stripped the rifle because the original owner had shot the barrel out, hunting here in B.C. where posers and BS artists don't last long. I loaded a .30-.06, a .280 Rem. a 7x57, a .308 Win. AND a 9.3x62 round into it AND it FED, EJECTED and FUNCTIONED PERFECTLY with this combo, several times WITH the rounds loaded in various combinations of position in the mag. The ejector and internal parts are MAUSER and are in EXACTLY the same spatial relationship in the 21H action as in M-98 actions....measure the bloody things and then LEARN before posting more bulltwaddle.

As to the MS stock/triggers, etc., many were fitted with SINGLE triggers, I have had three of them and have one now. The LOP determines the ease of operation in these as in other rifles, even an over-rated, functionally error prone "new design" such as the Kimbers.

The length of an action does not mean jacksquat in terms of feeding, it is the INTERNAL CONPONENTS and THEIR SPATIAL RELATIONSHIP that control this; you know, like the P-64 Winchesters you laud as being the better action/rifle....which, while they are excellent, they are NOT.

Keep shooting your "sod poodles" in suburbia, a hell of a way to learn about REAL function in rifles under stressful conditions, geez, what crapola!
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Your insults do not diminish my facts. If you had a factual argument then why not use it? I can understand that your striking out and insulting me as you can't answer the facts.

I don't see the fact that you backpack into the woods helps you figure out how a gun feeds. I prefer to do that in my shop and at the range. How is the woods better?

You say that the short 308 feed just fine from the 3.34" long action? Are you sure that you understand how such a short round might double feed?

Try it again. Of course I suppose you can't really evaluate it's feeding as your not swating black flies in the wilderness. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

When you try it again load the 308's forward in the magazine where someone might do it at random or that recoil from firing the gun would send them. Now your rifle will jam if you don't draw the bolt back all the way. It will pick up the next round in the magazine and double feed it before the ejector can reach it.

It seems that the ejectors varied in the Brno 22 and 21's. They got so many things wrong with that series anyway that the must have put in too short ejectors in mine.

To be frank Kutenay you don't seem all that observant to me at all.
Posted By: djpaintless Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />Boy if you ever want to get Kutenay wound up just say something bad about a BRNO!

The best feeding action ever was the SMLE. The long guide rib etc. made a huge difference. Haven't seen many in hunting configuration though.

I think that a properly tuned 98 is slightly better than a properly tuned M-70 due to the guide rib on the bolt, but any differences are slight...........................DJ
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Brno left the bolt guides off of many of the 21/22's also!

That action has a bolt root thats so high that it won't clear a normal scope, a pistol grip thats too far behind the trigger, a safety that does not lock the bolt closed and those Brno's bolts are really loose with the safety on. Kutenay has told us that some of them were lost.

I have a lot more on that rifle if he will discuss the facts.
Posted By: djp Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
One of the slickest feeding is the Schultz & Larsen. I've even owned one and have handled many others.
I can chamber a round pretty darn quick and smoothly with the Weatherby Mark Vs I've owned.
Posted By: mlg Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Out of the cheaper rifles I still think the Tikka T3 vertical stack mag takes a lot of beating.
Posted By: FOsteology Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
By far the best feeding centerfire action I have owned is a custom DGR .375 H&H built by Ed Plummer of AHR based on the double square bridge CZ-550 Magnum action.

Best feeding rimfire action hands down in my experience is the BRNO ZKM 611.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
I didn't know you could shoot out of the back of a jeep in africa? Hell, I've nver even SEEN a jeep in Africa! So you mean to tell me that I could have avoided walking those 8-10 miles a day when I could have shot out of the back of a "jeep"?

I'd like the name of that outfitter please. Oh yeah, in my experience, either a well tuned 70 or a M-98 clone. But what do I know, I WALKED when I could have rode! jorge
Posted By: AFP Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
The two smoothest, most reliable feeding rifles I have ever come across were a 50s vintage FN Mauser in .270 and my Dad's 721 in .270. The FN was so smooth that if you had rounds in the magazine with the bolt open, and you tipped the muzzle to the ground, the bolt would start forward and start to chamber a round.

The worst feeding rifle I ever had was an early 80s vintage Interarms (Zastava) M-98 in 270 Win. It couldn't feed rounds from the magazine without jamming.

In general, a pushfeed is more forgiving as to what it will feed. A properly tuned CRF set up for a paticular chambering is the most reliable. At least that is what I have seen..........
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Lovely...extrapolate Auto Manufacturer's insignias,with rifle reliability,for me please.

Feel free to extrapolate walking too.

Really not suprising,that the modest round count wasn't mentioned in your rebuttal.

I've yet to the own the rifle of ANY Make,that could discern auto insignias,boat insignias,airplane insignias,backpack insignias,boot insignias or GPS coordinates,as related to feed/function.

Machines hardly get more simplistic,than a boltgun...though Mousers never showed me anything,nor has Winny(M1's of their Manufacture,excluded,though others are held in higher esteem).

A Savage schlepped on foot through Africa,is still a [bleep] Savage..........................
Posted By: AFP Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Stick,

Come on--he gothca. It happens to all of us from time to time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Let it go (not that I have ANY credibility in letting things go myself................. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

BTW, I have to agree with you than a Garand is usually scary reliable, and you idea about round count vs feeding malfunctions is well put.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Laffin'...I guess he told me?!!?

As an aside,I could never enter Weatherby MK5's into serious reliability conversations,though the Howa is 2 thumbs up..........................
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Wasn't extrapolating anything, just pointing out that your views on:
A. Vehicles used over there
B. Hunting over there
Are irrelevant (and erroneous). As to a rifle's ease or smoothness of operation, could you be mistaken there as well?

And speaking of extrapolating, what does hunting over there have to do with smooth feeding rifles? Since you brought it up, I'm all ears.

Incidentally, had the oportunity to shoot a Roger Farrell tuned CZ in 458 Lott. Very smooth indeed, but Imust concede that most if not all factory CZs are a bit rough out of the box. Don't own any of those either, but I do own lots of Model 70s and a few Mauder action Browning Safari Grades, both are very smooth indeed as is my RSM in 416 Rigby but that one also took some attention by Mark Penrod.

A Savage? wouldn't be caught dead with one, even in the piney woods of the south. Is your writing purposely invested in gobbledigook or is there a method here I'm missing? jorge
Posted By: 7 STW Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
A Carl Gustaf Husky is pretty slick.
Posted By: BCBrian Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Just want to be a bit contrarian and throw a real wrench in the gears.

MY fastest feeding, slickest feeling bolt action - is a Browning A-Bolt - and I own a lot of different makes of rifles. My worst, is my Remington Ti.

My fastest feeding action (of any kind) though, is an old 760 Remington pump - faster than poop through a goose.
Posted By: RDFinn Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Make that VERY slick, imagine after 80+ corrections, wow.
Posted By: Lee24 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
There is no such thing as "the best feeding action".

It depends on the cartridge, bullet loaded in it, action length being appropriate or a compromise, magazine and its spring. A 98 Mauser that feeds .270 rounds like magic can be fiddled with and rebarrelled to something else and choke on every round.
Posted By: Tony Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Of my rifles it would be an FN Mauser (pre-Browning import) in 30-06
Posted By: AFP Re: Best feeding action? - 09/10/06
Jorge,

Be nice............
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
Blaine: You are probably right, but there are at least a THOUSAND ways he could have gotten his point across rather than the usual disdain for African hunting.

Notice that NO ONE person said anything disparaging until his pigeon english diatribe. Like yours we all have our opinions and that's what htis forum's for. Hell, I can't dispute that one gent that cited his pump action as being smooth or the A-Bolt. It was uncalled for and his annointed status here notwithstanding, I took umbrage. jorge
Posted By: VAnimrod Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
Best feeding action?

Easy.

A fine British double rifle.

Find something that feeds or ejects slicker than that... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
My point is/was,that which you reiterated,thus my thunking it funny.

That which you miss,is not my burden.

Be it figurative or literal.......................
Posted By: MtnHtr Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
My Weatherby Vanguard in 300WSM. It is superslick and fast! My Win 70s would be next.

An AK47 is pretty slick in extreme environments as well as an M1:

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Jorge,

Grow some skin..............

MtnHtr
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
I've done the AK several times and had better luck in F/F,via SKS.

Think/thunk highly of the Howa's in general...................
Posted By: Grand Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
Excuse the interuption. I thought it said "Breast feeding action." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
The HK91 will take a horrid lick too.

Have had wood forends smokin' and I don't mean maybe..............................
Posted By: vigillinus Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
Krag, SMLE, National Match Springfield, and pre 64M70. in that order.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
I've a SMELLY,that I've never shot or cleaned the Cosmoline offa.

Prolly won't,either.........................(grin)
Posted By: muledeer Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
I have a 9x57 1908-vintage Mauser factory sporter that feeds better than anything I've ever owned. I grew curious one day, so put a fired case in the magazine, then worked the bolt. Into the chamber it went, slick and true as could be.

The best slam-loader I ever fired was an H&K SL-7. It fed and functioned with everything I put in it, including down-loaded 110 gr hollowpoints. (Won a few unlimited matches at bowling pin shoots against the full-auto boys with that setup, 20-odd years ago <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.)

I suspect mileage varies by individual rifle, to some extent.
Posted By: John_G Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
This time Lee24 has made a good point - the whole package has to be considered; for example, a pre-64 Model 70 in 300 H&H. While I have never owned one I have handled a couple or three and that combination practically feeds itself. My father had a re-worked M98 in the original chambering, 8x57, and it was a dream to operate, as the entire gun was designed around that cartridge. The geometry of the mag box makes a big difference, and Paul Mauser had that combination down cold.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
For ratty-tat-tat,via boltgun...I guess I can like my massaged 308 LTR as good as anything.

The Kenworth shifter helps bolt manipulations,even though I do it "wrong" and I'm thinkin' there's inherent subconscious virtue to Berdan primed MilSurp Fodder. While I'm nimbly adept at driving a bolt and catching the empties outta the ejection port while stroking the bolt,I am more faster when the brass is of no concern.

I can pass shoot a 223AI well enough,that David Copperfield would be scratchin' his head trying to figure out how the empties got in my weakside mitt,but can do the LTR/MilSurp Thing more better.

The 77/22 punched K-Hornet is a greasy feed/function sumbitch too and pretty high on my general purpose list,for [bleep] & Giggles.

Always could like boltguns,though I slum now and again.........................
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
"Always cracked me up how "Africa Guys" sang feed/function virtues of a given platform,after shooting 9 shots outta the back of a Jeep,over 2wks."

The paragraph cited above was your first response to the subject. Explain to me how it was I that brought it up. I was just pointing out the relevance (or lack thereof) of your comments WRT the subject at hand, hence, I replied most assuredly "tongue in cheek" about the vehicle and shooting from it issue.

"That which you miss,is not my burden.

Be it figurative or literal....................... " Well said big stick.
jorge

Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
Brought up,because it is apt.

Obviously a touchy subject to some,though I am not one...................
Posted By: kutenay Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
To depart from the katachrestic linguisticly bizarre "style" of our esteemed Alaska Guy and return to rifle actions; I might add that perhaps the smoothest feeding rifle I own is a version of the greatest American rifle-invention ever, the Win. 1886.

As a mechanical device for it's purpose, the '86 is rivalled ONLY by the Mauser 98 and the Westley Richards Dollshead Droplock sxs rifles, IMO. These are the BEST of their type and nothing else functions or maintains as well in typical field conditions. I have fine original German Mauser sporters and an '86 repro and trust these in Grizzly country over anything else; stock design, trigger and safety styles and sight configurations can and are modified to suit the individual shooting style, but, the mechanical quality of function remains.

IF, I had to hunt the entire world with only four rifles, I would choose my Browning repro 1886 SRC-.45-70, (Grizzly defence par excellence), my Brno 21H-long barrel-"roundbolt" in .280 Rem. a rifle that after over 50 years of hard B.C. bush use shoots and functions so well it amazes me. I would also take my Oberndorf Type 40-9.3x62, a rifle from Africa that is about as close to a perfect B.C. big game combo as 40+ years of experience can teach me.

Finally, I would pick the Westley in .450 Nitro and be happy with just these four, although my tack-driving MS carbine .30-06 built in 1971 would also be considered as it shoots so well and is so easy to function from the shoulder. I expect that facing dangerous African game is not really much different thad dealing with close-range Grizzlies here in B.C., so, my choices may work there as they have here.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
"Apt" is prolly a big word,in Canada................
Posted By: kutenay Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
"prolly" isn't even a word, here or in Alaska, but, WTF, without Stick's ego and "expertise", the Campfire would be far less entertaining........
Posted By: JOG Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
In terms of pure smoothness, I'm surprised the Krag-J�rgensen hasn't made the list yet.
Posted By: fish30ought6 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
the nef ...
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
How well a rifle feeds is much more interesting to me than how accurate it is. Consistently the best feeders for me have been:

Bolt action:
Pre-64 M70
FN Mausers
Oberndorf Mausers

Lever Action:
Winchester 94
Savage 99

Semi auto:
M1 Carbine
AK

Pump guns:
J.C. Higgins model 20 (a greased up ball bearing shell shucker) but ugly.


These are some of the most reliable rifles I�ve had in my hands. For absolute reliability title, I have to give it up to my M1 Carbine. I�ve had it for more than 20 years now and it has been my go to fun gun. It gets several thousand rounds through it each year and the only malfunction I have ever had was when it broke an extractor. Even then, it would function 14 out of 15 rounds, thanks to a tapered case and a nice chamber.

When you factor the round count, the time in my hands and the reliability rate, nothing has a better record IN MY HANDS.
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Best feeding action? - 09/11/06
Fish,

NEF! GRIN.

Spot
Posted By: AFP Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
The Savage 99 I had any my Marlin 1895G seem to feed well also........
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
"Prolly" is long reknowed cyber-shorthand for "probably".

If any more Canuckial Clarifications are warranted,please sing out...I'm happy to help.

That were apt.......................
Posted By: JonA Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
All your feeding are belong to A-Bolt. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I figured Stick might be bored of insulting Canucks, so I figured I'd give a bit of Japanese punk talk just to get him going again.

It is sooo entertaining, after all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: JBabcock Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
Ever see one of those dolls that has the string hanging out the back? You pull the string and the doll talks! Woody on "Toy Story" had himself one of those strings...

So does "The Stick." Comical to watch indeed Jon!
Posted By: MtnHtr Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
JB,

I thought he was like a catfish??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Still LMAO on that one awhile back!

MtnHtr
Posted By: JBabcock Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> "Da Stick" knows of what he speaketh, he just doesn't know when to stoppeth!

I get more of a kick out of the herds of "sticklings" that follow his comments like he's the "Great Pied Piper" of the Great White North!

"The Campfire hath no fury, like those who denegate their beloved Massa... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />"

Full disclosure though, I have taken up his advice on "light for caliber" TSX bullets... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> I built a load for my 30-06 using 150 grain TSX in part because of some of his comments about his use of light bullets in the 7-08.

"He'll,prolly take credit for my intelligence,for using,that load." Then agin,meybe not...

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: OldRemmington Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
JBabcock, Too Funny!
Stick do have entertaiment value, and I think of his postings like panning for gold. Something that's fun to do, and if you sift through alot of gravel, every so often you come up with a Nugget!
I gotta credit him for getting me to try out the Leupy 6x42 scopes.

Reguards, Rob
Posted By: Journeyman Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
The "smoothest" feeding rifle in my collection is a mid-1970's era Colt-Sauer - never felt anything like it.

The most positive machine-like feeding, and the rifle I most trust in this aspect, is a custom Model 700 with a hand fitted center-feed magazine box.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
'Cock,

What did your Guide charge you,to say that?.....................
Posted By: Big Stick Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
Sauer's are slickery bastards...good call....................
Posted By: Lee24 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
My smoothest rifles
Winchester Model 71
1952 Mannlicher
1954 custom Mauser .270
1956 Mauser by Marholdt
Sig Sauer SHR970
Magnum Mauser in .375 H&H by Krieghoff and Griffin & Howe
Posted By: SharpsShooter Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
Hey Journeyman, tell us more about this handfitted center magazine rascal for a 700. Some of us might be intensely interested in such an item. Who did the work?

Thanks,
SS
Posted By: Journeyman Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
SS,

I have 3 center-feed 700s. The first is a G.A. Precision .300 WSM with a Wyatt's Outdoor extended box. It feeds the WSMs well but only comfortably holds 2 down in WSM (though my particular one with Badger bottom will take 3 UNcomfortably) The second is a 7-08 mountain rifle with an H-S Precision detatchable I installed myself. The third, and the one I refer to above, is a box my regular 'smith built himself similar to the Wyatt's except it is all stainless and is not extended. This one is on my Ti actioned .280 AI and as stated above is dead reliable. Unfortunately the 'smith isn't taking work and doesn't wish to be "advertised" as it were on the forums...(sorry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />)
Posted By: medved Re: Best feeding action? - 09/12/06
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I didn't know you could shoot out of the back of a jeep in africa? Hell, I've nver even SEEN a jeep in Africa! So you mean to tell me that I could have avoided walking those 8-10 miles a day when I could have shot out of the back of a "jeep"?

I'd like the name of that outfitter please. Oh yeah, in my experience, either a well tuned 70 or a M-98 clone. But what do I know, I WALKED when I could have rode! jorge


Jorge,

robert my last boss in CAR got one jeep wagoneer 4 doors but it was not in use and was rusting in garage and not driving at all of course ....
we had toyota and a GMC 6x6 from WWII ... as you stated never seen a jeep (brand) in action in africa .... maybe the lovely roads are too confy ....!!!!
see you
Posted By: norske Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
My slickest is a Tikka T3 chambered for the nicely tapered 6.5X55.
I do, however, have a Ruger Ultralight Mk II 257 Roberts that will feed empty cartridges from the magazine. It's the only controlled round feed Ruger I own that will do it. Not as smooth as the Tikka though.
Posted By: Mauser98 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
My best feeding rifle is an early 50's FN Mauser that spent the first 45 years of it's existance as a .30-06 and the last 10 as a .35 Whelen.

My next best is another FN in .270 Win

And my third best(but coming along nicely) is a 1908 Brazilian(Oberndorf) in 9.3X62.
Posted By: hammerless Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
The bolt on my Savage 99 imidiately engages the cartridge from the rotary magazine well before they enter the chamber; I think you could cycle shells with that thing while hanging upside down from a trapeez bar.
Posted By: JBabcock Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
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My best feeding rifle is an early 50's FN Mauser that spent the first 45 years of it's existance as a .30-06 and the last 10 as a .35 Whelen.

My next best is another FN in .270 Win

And my third best(but coming along nicely) is a 1908 Brazilian(Oberndorf) in 9.3X62.


Nice taste in rifles.
Posted By: blammer Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
my smoothest feeding is my win 94/22 lever gun....
Posted By: Teal Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
Smoothest anything I ever shot was a Rem 31, 12 gauge.
Posted By: JeffP Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
Best feeding action?

Ruth Chris steak house...love the rib eye.
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Best feeding action?

Ruth Chris steak house...love the rib eye.


Now there is a comment worth making!

Good call!

Mark D
Posted By: idahop38 Re: Best feeding action? - 09/13/06
Probably the slickest feeding bolt action ever is the 30-40 Krag.
1st Place: SAKO AIII and AIV actions, HANDS DOWN.

2nd & 3rd (tie): Pre-64 mod 70 and Carl Gustav Husky.
30-40 Krag??????????????

I thought the question was best feeding action, not sloppiest. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I will admit that they do give the illusion of slick.

OK, all kidding aside, they do feed well. They also are the fastest to reload the magazine, just dump 'em in.
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Best feeding action? - 09/16/06
By this point I'm thinking about what rifles I don't see listed.

Hey I've got an idea - Suckiest feeding action thread.

Stay tuned
Posted By: Bighorn Re: Best feeding action? - 09/17/06
The slickest feeder in my stable is a Wby. Vanguard, in .270 WSM.
Posted By: BCBrian Re: Best feeding action? - 09/17/06
Just a few hours ago my lousy feeding Remington Ti that I took out (a 7mm-08) still didn't (after trying a few different types of ammo) feed the last cartridge in the magazine properly.

The only way to extract that last cartridge is to open the bolt and manually push down on the back of the cartridge until it pops up - and then pull it out by hand.

Anyone else have this problem - anyone know how to fix it?
Posted By: RLB Re: Best feeding action? - 09/19/06
Well I love my Remmy cdl .270 with all the extras I could find..My ruger MII .257 bob is fine never a problem..BUT when I first bought my Styer mannlicher luxus in 7X57. I was constantly checking the action to see if a round chambered I seriously couldnt tell the difference. there was no drag or odvious sounds..super smooth. it's my favorite stalking rifle and as far as I know it's never been apart or messed with..

RLB...
Posted By: model70man Re: Best feeding action? - 09/19/06
I've never had any rifle that did not feed well. Thanks...Bill.
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