The Factory 'turret' or cap that comes with the scope is MOA?

Someone please tell me how to use MOA to convert to something useful,

In other words, whats the easiest math formula to convert MOA to this example,

10 inches of drop at 300 yards,

school me please.

1 MOA at 100 yards is 1 inch.
1 MOA at 200 yards is 2 inches
1 MOA at 300 yards is 3 inches.

10 ÷ 3= 3.3 MOA

13 "clicks"

I can substitute like this? 10"/300 yards = .03 /.25 = 13?

Same thing but different?

MOA freaks me out. I'm an inches guy........

https://www.nssf.org/shooting/minute-angle-moa/

I think this was the page I went to to get things figured out. Not hard once you figure it out.

(Number of clicks per 1 MOA on scope) x (MOA adjustment) = adjustment in clicks on scope

Figure out your drop in moa on a ballistic calculator then plug it into this formula. Easy squeezy

Or just get the CDS dial in yards and not have to worry about it!

0.25 inch clicks at 100 yards (at 300 each click equals 0.75inch)

10/.75 = 13.33
Or:
4/3 x 10 =13.33

And be shackled to those come ups? No thanks. What if you want to change your load or elevation where you hunt? Just keep buying dials?

OP, stick to a MOA dial.

That there's your problem........

Skip inches and clicks, and don't try to convert anything......think MOA.

Rangefinder says 500 yards, your drop sheet says 5.6 MOA, dial scope to 5 and add two clicks.....boom.....

Like aalf said, forget that other stuff. Get your stuff printed out and on the side of your stock.

Or......quit screwing around with continually altering loads/charges/ bullets, establish a good, working load and use the CDS!

Unless you have some excellent equipment, and shoot at extreme ranges , it’s not a lot of difference between moa and inches. At 1000 yards (a fairly long shot).....10 moa equals 14.7” Unless my math is incorrect! Most of us are incapable of utilizing the difference to an advantage! memtb

1 MOA = 1.047”

So yes, your math is wrong.

If you want to learn long range shooting, you're going to learn either MOA or mils. And as mentioned above, you will just start thinking in MOA, not inches of drop. It seems weird and then all of a sudden it just makes sense.

Regardless, you'll need to write it down and tape it to the side or your rifle or inside of your scope cover.

300 yards ain't that far anyway in the long range game, I think the thick part of the bar of a lot of a lot of 1" Leupy Duplex reticles begins at about 3MOA (at full power), so you might also just use that, depending on your scope and the size of animal you're hunting.

So don’t just tell me I’m wrong.....give me and perhaps others the “correct” answer! memtb

I believe the answer is 10.47

I believe you're missing something. If an moa is "an inch at 100 yards" then it's "10 inches at 1000 yards," so 10 moa is "10 times 10 inches at 1000 yards" which is "100 inches at 1000 yards." Now plug in the 1.047 and you've got 104.7" at 1000 yards.

10.47 " would be at 100yds... as Mathman says at 1000yds it is 104.7", so you bullet would rise 104.7" above line of sight in order to impact dead on at 1000yds
Thanks professor...

That's not really how it goes. Consider the example of a "mid-range" 308 Win. target load, a 168 grain bullet, BC = .45 and MV = 2600 fps. For a 300 yard zero it'll need to be about 5.2" high at 100 which is 5 moa. But the bullet will be about 6.5" high halfway to the 300 yard line.

(inches of drop) / (# yards x 100) / (1.047) = MOA drop

Example: Using 10" of drop at 300 yards,

10 / 3 / 1.047 = 3.18 MOA drop

Hypothetical question: If my understanding of scope adjustments is such that I haven't yet worked out moa vs inches per hundred yards, then am I ready to attempt shots at distances where the difference amounts to much?

REAL World Answer: On a Reupold,you are VERY likely gonna get MOA,IPHY and who knows what the fhuqk else,enroute to a 1K erector solution. Hint. Congratulations?!?

You will also VERY likely encounter a shift in horizontal along the way,with a RTZ shift and more weirdness,as zoom selection changes. Now IF the solutions can/will/do repeat(no matter their cited "values"),then POA/POI can be arranged. If a solution is a 18.75 MOA correction and I know that if I dial my Reupold 18.25,it will corroborate with the requisite and then deeds can be did. Reality is,there's not a bigger piece of fhuqking schit than a CDS or BDC system,especially in Reupold,because none of it tracks accurately. Funnier than fhuqk to hear Boobs extoll the "virtues" of same. Hint. LAUGHING!

Now an elder generation M1 Fixed Reupold,might could do some things that'll repeat,but in them days the reticles and erectors spoke different Languages MOA/MIL. While I'm beyond fluent in same,due to obscene round count,I'd do a Newb THE Favor,to gun Mil's from inception. Tenth's are farrrrrrrr more intuitive and it can easily be applied to Wind Reading,so you get a Wind Reading Finder too. Everyone "thinks" they have to "learn" something "new",but it all stares you in the fhuqking face and is impossible to fhuqk up. An etched reticle that actually subtends the erector's values,will connect dots like no other and doubly so in Mil's. Keep it a Fixed Fhuqker or FFP as a minimum and you ARE there. Hint.

It is FUNNIER than fhuqk,that all here were "convinced" that they "KNOW" what they are talking about,yet none of the DUMB Fhuqks can slide a decimal and all of their First Grade Teachers should be punched in the fhuqking face. The CDS schit is fhuqking hilarious! Hint.

Bless your hearts for TRYING.

Hint.

LAUGHING!.............

Same format here, very simple. The rifle now wears a SuperChicken 3-15X42.

I find it fascinatingly hilarious,that someone would put DOPE on their rifle,which the scope is not even incrementally synched to correlate. Hint. Congratulations?!?

It is hardly "daunting" to have it all,staring one in the face. That from Beaver Dope corrections,to the limits of application,transonic slip,end of erector travel,end of reticle subtension or whatever Finish Line you use. Hint. Congratulations?!?

From 10yd Beaver Dope(a 6 Mil ele correction) to the 2000yd line (48.2 Mil ele correction). That is simply the mechanical limits of the erector and reticle combined in unison. Hint.



1150yd Ocular Dope and the offside of stock houses a greater breakdown. Note that increments,are slated to adjustment value of the erectors. Hint.



The Fhuqking CDS/BDC Ruse is a fhuqking JOKE. Hint.

Bless your hearts for trying.

Hint.

LAUGHING!...............

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TAg for reading later when I'm more awake.

This is all crazy. Spend your time worrying about honing your hunting and woodsmanship skills and none of this fuzzy math matters. Does any body care to hunt anymore? Or just shoot?

Fhuqk yes...RETARD,you "tell" 'em! Hint. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING!

Be sure to quantify your "responsible" Retardation and keep in mind,not everyone suffers your handicaps. Wax eloquent upon the wares you "unleash" your Retardation with,perhaps dangle some pics of same and state how it soothes your Surging Estrogen levels,to be afflicted in such a manner. If only for fhuqking STARTERS. Hint.

Bless your heart for Crying...you CLUELESS Fhuqks never disappoint.

Hint.

LAUGHING!................

In this particular case, I shoot,

This rifle is my 'fun gun' at the range,

A question on the net, is a whole lot cheaper than wasting time, money and powder at the range,


what good is "woodmanship", when you don't even understand your sighting system?

Relax.

You need to get out of your hunting bubble....

Should we bring up variations and variables yet? Such as the changes with elevation, barometric pressure, temperature, and humidity... elevation alone can make a mid-trajectory difference of some 100 fps or more, and 3" or more of drop from 2,000 ft. to sea level, 60 deg. variance in temperature can do the same, all has to be figured in at some point. Not to mention angle (up & down).

Practically need a computer in your pocket.

Phil

Nope.....

What you need is actual experience.

Pressure and altitude are two different expressions of the same thing. A guy who’s actually shot at various altitudes, and in various conditions knows what’s what. Out to 500-600 pressure/altitude make very little difference.... knock a click or two off for lower pressure (higher altitude).... add a click or two for higher pressure (lower altitude). Angles are very much the same.... unless it’s an extreme angle, or extreme range.... they’re a click or two difference too.

Most guys who are good at hitting stuff at longer hunting ranges (Say 450-650 yards), don’t rely a lot on ancillary equipment like anemometers or cosine indicators... they rely on intuition derived from actual field experience.

Shooting your rifle.... more than your mouth.... is a great way to learn this stuff.

Too bad you haven't learned crap yet. Or you might know a little something. Apparently haven't yet!

Phil

Laffin.....

Regale me Longshanks..... I’m all ears....

So who has some useful numbers to start with, just for grins.

.223 , 50 grain Vmax. 24 grains of Benchmark powder, avg FPS is 3010, 100 yard zero....

without some type of actual software, where do you begin,,,(other than range time to start or verify).......?????

Hornady Ballistics calculator on their website will give you some kind of a rough idea.

Garbage in, garbage out.....

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj_simp-5.1.cgi

Inches, the length of the Kings finger joint. So save heartache, discouragement etc. Sell the CDS, get a cheap mil-mil get on target, measure the range with the mil scale in the scope....use the mil hash for holdover.....claaang....in about 3 seconds flat. Surprising how much fun shooting is when you're not playing with a smartphone and solving artillery firing solutions ad nauseum. JMO

With today’s rifles, scopes, components 400-500 yds is a chip shot. That ain’t long distance anymore. If you need a crutch (cds) you need to go practice more. KISS It just ain’t that complicated.

Riiiiiiiight.........you never miss a wind call I guess?

Stick to politics...

Thanks
Thanks Greg it’s exactly that kind of attitude that has me living in this political [bleep] hole😳 l say for gods sakes please don’t stick to politics.

The value of 4 in this example represents what?
4 clicks per inch?

when entering the values that i know, It calculates 14 inches of drop at 300,,,, That isn't what I'm seeing in the field...

Bad numbers somewhere.

Sorry bud!

It’s OK it takes a village of idiots to ruin a state.What’s one more and I don’t mean Greg W

Say 10inches of drop at 500yards.

Scope has 0.25inch clicks at 100, so at 500 each click equals 1.25inches

4 relates to the number of clicks per inch, a constant in the equation. 5 is 500yards and 10 is the drop in inches.

4/5 x 10 = 8clicks

or

10/1.25 = 8 clicks


Lean the theory and then make a chart and forget about the why.

Temperature Barometer Reading Correction Calculator
:
Link



Above Sea Level Barometer Reading Correction Calculator:

Link


Compare the two Dogshooter, Barometric Pressure can be off by thousands of feet with just a little temperature change. And just a couple clicks don't make up the difference.



Phil

Now you done it.... you spewed worthless info all over this thread.... and once again showed that you don’t know much about shooting in various altitudes.....

Here’s some ACTUAL dope.... from an ACTUAL rifle/load. It’s pretty a pretty common combo for making ACTUAL hits..... 6 Creed, 108 ELD @ 3000fps

We’ll use 650 yards.... Because that’s what I referenced in the post you schitt-the-bed on....

Home “altitude”.... 5000’ ASL (or 25 inHg for you sophistcated types)



Here’s the dope at 10000’ ASL (or about 20 inHg)



Now.... here’s the dope at Sea Level ( or 30 inHg)




Pretty easy to see that based on an average altitude (or barometric pressure).... it is ACTUALLY just a couple of clicks. And.... those are some pretty significant swings in elevation/pressure.

Sorry to break it to you man.... but it really is that easy to folks who ACTUALLY shoot.

Fugg this is a funny thread.

You and me both.

Thanks for the help guys, cool stuff here, Made it to the range today, rain and all,

Verify 100 yard zero, then back out to 200, 3.5 inches drop, do the math, add 1.7 moa and whammo!

Move out to 300, 14.25 inches drop, do the math, dial up 4.66 moa, and whammo!

The adjustment at 300 was perfect, 5 shots in the bullseye,,,, The tracking on this Luepold VX3 must be fairly accurate.

5 shot group at 300 was 2.655 inches per my Starrert Caliper,

with a light rain and east wind......I'll take that.............

Guess what happens when verify in the field with precise numbers,

You get 14.25 inches drop at 300...........

Color me surprised.

The clicks are MOA so your math is off...…………..


Lefty C

How so?

Where'd he go?

Show your work...

Is this a test?

3.5 inches drop at 200 yards....3.5 /2/ 1.047= 1.7 moa

14 inches drop at 300, 14/3/1.047 = 4.5,

or, 14 inches drop at 300, 14/3 = 4.66

And now what?

Good info from Aalf, Dogshooter, Stick here.....and Greg...grin...

Like said, do yourself a favor and SKIP the skull [bleep] of the math. Only thing that should be on your brain is MOA... not inches... not clicks...not does my scope use MOA or IPHY.

Easiest thing you can do for yourself is take advantage of a ballistics program, whether it be on your phone or PC. Ballistics AE is the most intuitive IMO as far as a phone app goes. Depending on the where and what I use a Kestrel and/or that app. Build yourself a rifle profile and store it... it takes about 10 seconds to adjust the variables for it if you wish.

Or build you a dope card, etc for an average day at your location like these guys have shown. Like DS said, within normal hunting distances the slight variables don’t add up to much. The Indian’s skill set, or lack of, will be the deciding factor at those ranges. ONLY way to hone that is LOTS of spent primers in the field in any and all conditions...

You are just scratching the surface at 300. Other factors will come into play as you venture out further, but that’s for a different time.

Did I miss what round and bullet?

I just take a pencil and make a mark on the CDS cap. Easy to wipe off and reset if necessary.

If a guy wants a custom turret/label that works, and is inexpensive, this is the ticket.

https://customturretsystems.com/

Something else to remember about the 'Math' is that the moa reticle dots are set at the max power of the scope. If you have your scope set lower than the max setting the marks will equal more than moa. ie: 1/2 of max power should give you 2 moa per dot. Can get pretty involved if you like to run your scope set lower than max power.

still slightly confused has to why Leupold would give internal 1/4 inch adjustments, but MOA turret caps.

?

Because the adjustments are actually in 1/4 MOA and not 1/4 inch. They call it 1/4" to keep the simple masses happy.