Sitting around a hunting camp, talking about hunting and rifles a few years ago, the topic came to suppressors, specifically for lighter weight hunting rifles. There really wasn't anything out there.

After much thought, George Gardner took the idea to Mack Brothers in Sturgis, South Dakota.

Criteria: Lighter, shorter, smaller diameter, and still effective.


Specs: 6" long, with 1.5 inches of that goes back towards the shooter, making it extend the barrel only 4.5"(Reflex style)

Weight: 7.2 ounces.

Thread pitch: 1/2X28-9/16X24-5/8X24.



Mine are both 1/2X28. I had two rifles cut back, and threaded, My old X Hunter 6.5 SAUM(19 1/2"), and my lightweight 22 CM(17 1/2").



The 6.5 SAUM shot pretty good....A little bit of a challenge when it's -17F. It was dead calm though.

Noise level to me from behind the rifles, was the 22M was a bit less report, than the larger 6.5 SAUM.

Compared to my Omega 300 cans, I'd say slightly louder.

An interesting note on the 22 CM. When the barrel was 22"(1-7") I had worked up a very accurate load with the 88gr ELD-M...in warmer weather..;)

Yesterday in subzero temps. it wouldn't stabilize the 88's. I went home and grabbed a box of 75 ELD-M's I had laying around, and they shot lights out.

It produced a 1.5"- 5 shot group at 200M with the 75gr load.

My other 22 CM has a 16" barrel, and is 1-6.5", and does fine with the 88's in subzero temps....

More testing to come...….

Damn....That's light for a 308 suppressor. What kind of price range will they go for??

I was looking yesterday and need to go ahead and get in line for my tax stamps. Best I could find in stock was the DeadAir Sandman Ti...16.8 ozs and 8.2". But it's $699. The Omega 300 is good, too...but it's $999 where I was looking and the only place in town that has a kiosk that does everything in one whack (fingerprints, photo, letter to CLEO, etc.).

Search: GA Precision Jager suppressor. There's more details to look at, specs etc.. Not many of these are out in the field yet.

George's first shipment from Mack Brothers was for 100 units, and there's still a few unsold right now. His order is in for another supply.

I'm pretty sure MSRP is right around $600.

Great specs! I'll definitely be interested to read more.

And good price!

What’s the decibel rating on those Pat?

I've just started looking into a hunting suppressor. I would need .338 compatibility though. I like the design of this one for sure.

Thunderbeast Arms Ultra Series says hi. They've been the premiere ultra light weight, rugged suppressor choice for quite a while.

If I remember correctly from the thread on this can on the hide, the main drawbacks were that it has much lower limits on rate of fire, and longer minimum barrel lengths than most competitors. Also the rifle's muzzle had to be under something like 0.75" diameter for the reflexed portion of the can to fit.

Not something I would want as a general use can, but if you already had a bunch, didn't want an Ultra for some reason, and were going for absolute lightest and shortest, this could be a good option. I'd be interested to see how it meters on something like the Pulse system.

10-12 decibels higher than the Ultra 7 from the reports I got today.

TBAC just released the Dominus for SHOT. Dealer got my deposit money.....

Some people have a problem spending a grand on $75 worth of metal.
A can made for 1-2 shots at a time should be way cheaper to build than a can for FA fire.

Lots to like in the OP. Thanks for sharing

I like it! It's only 3 oz more than the brake I've been using...

Unfortunately for those of us on the wrong side of the 49th, the suppressor updates are like salt in a wound...

But, much appreciate this info on the 88! A 22CM build is high on my list, and I was planning on a 1-7". Thanks for sharing your experience.

LGS has them for less than 400. Was looking at one for my 308. I am waiting on a tax stamp for a hybrid46 so holding off on the Jager for now.

Not too hot, basically K can performance, or a little worse, with slightly less weight and much less toughness than most other k can options.

I don't really have a need for something like the Dominus, but it does look awesome, if you want the apex of light and tough, and like the SR system.

Are you sure that wasn't the AAC Jaeger 30?

https://www.capitolarmory.com/aac-rifle-suppressor-7-62-jaeger-30.html

I didn't think the GAPs were really out in the wild yet, and I think the MSRP is ~$600, the AAC Jaeger, on the other hand has been out for a while and usually sells in that range.

All I could focus on was the -17 degrees Seriously, thanks for posting, most interesting.

Oh you're right. I was looking at the green Jaeger 30.

Great post scenarshooter. Thanks for the 411.

This is a question out of pure curiosity, I truly mean no offense by it in any way.

What is the draw to have a suppressor on a hunting rifle, more specifically a big game rifle like posted here.

I can see the appeal at the range, or on a high volume varmint rig for sure. I've even came very close to ordering one, I just can't justify it.

One of the main things I like about hunting with a suppressor, is that I can now hear the sound of the bullet impact, when I hit a game animal, be it a squirrel or a whitetail. My hearing is pretty well shot, and for years I have read others reports of hearing the "whunk!" of a bullet striking game. Until I owned a couple suppressors, I had never heard that.

My buddy shot a bear last spring, first round clean miss. bear was not phased one bit by the report. He forgot in the heat of the moment to adjust for the decline Second shot Kill! I highly doubt he would have gotten a second shot on that bear without the use of the suppressor. I am not saying that will work every time but I'll take it for all the times it does.

What are the specs and price of those two units?

Holston,

We hunt predators, primarily at night, in relatively populated areas. I have gone to a down loaded 22 Hornet to keep the noise down, my buddy is using a suppressor on an AR 223 and even with my mild loads in the Hornet it is louder than his suppressed 223. Even at close range, with decent placement, the Hornet doesn’t anchor a coyote every time. I am building a 20 Vartarg with a 18” barrel and this Jaeger suppressor. Things that go “KA-BOOM!”in the night, attract unwanted attention. I’m hoping the new gun won’t.

I do all my hunting with cans now and wouldn't go back. The benefits I appreciate are:

- No muzzle blast and reduced recoil help you stay focused on the animal through the shot, identification of hits and follow ups are quicker.

- I don't ever have to worry about ear pro, making sure it's with me, making sure the plugs on a string aren't tangled with my other gear, or having to get it in before an unexpected shot.

- Without the rifle ringing your ears or plugs blocking your hearing, you can clearly hear the thunk of bullets hitting animals, and you can also more easily pinpoint the location of crashing if they make it into the brush.

- The lack of a muzzle blast and confusing sound of the bullet's shockwave alarms animals less and usually leaves them unable to tell where the shot came from.

I don't know anybody that tried suppressed hunting and wanted to go back, that should tell you something.

On the other hand, if you're staying in VA, may not be much point to trying suppressors, in pretty sure your communist overlords have already added gun mufflers to the ban list (961?).

Makes perfect sense on a predator rifle to me. Especially at night and with people relatively close by.



Thanks. I can see your points as well.

I agree, I don know anyone who has went back after using one.

All good points made above.

Less muzzle blast....
Less noise...
Smoother recoil impulse...(Full house 7 Mag loads with 180s fell 243ish for comparison.)
I don’t worry about ear protection 95% of the time with a can attached...
Shooting with kids is somewhat easier as you are able to “coach” them w/o the hassle of plugs or muffs....

99% of my hunting is done suppressed these days. I’ll run one in a match too depending on COF.

I went the CB route as I don’t need the full auto capabilities of the SR.

CB is 6.25” long, 9.6ozs, with a decibel rating of 126db with a 20” .308. CBs available from 1/2”-3/4”...

TBACs price for the CB is $1235, but local dealer was well below that.

Good stuff Pat. Thanks for sharing it.

Holston,

I totally understand what you are saying and went through the debate with myself before jumping in.

I initially went with a suppressor for being quieter when hunting.

But a portion of my reasoning was, that in my case, shooting a 10-20 or so times a year at various big game critters/predators while hunting, without hearing protection, was catching up. Especially when you multiply that by say 30 years. Which is where I'm at.

I may have gotten into the suppressor game too late to save all of my hearing, but I want to save what I have left. Plus all the other benefits listed above.

Holston, not trying to talk you into a suppressor but I can say once you get one for a range toy or varmint rifle, you’ll soon be trying to decide how many of your big game rifles to chop and thread. Once you shoot suppressed you won’t enjoy shooting loud at all anymore. It’s a rabbit hole...

On the subject of light, Ti suppressors for hunting I’m with Josh on being a big fan of the TBAC Ultra series, I have a 7. I also have an SAS Barricade, which is slightly more compact at 6” and about 11oz IIRC. I enjoy using both of these, personally never felt the need for a FA rated can.

These new suppressors that Scenarshooter posted about are interesting for sure, very compact and lightweight. I’m not in the market for another but if I was I’d take a closer look, for hunting compact and lightweight is where it’s at for sure.

This is exactly what I have been looking for! Should have know that Pat had all the knowledge I needed all along. I think this is the year I take the plunge and get a can. I have shied away form the bureaucracy but need the benefits for my ears... Great post!

Wonder how the performance compares to the Texas suppressor outrider 30 cal can I’m waiting on