Too many educated yotes these days, late season yote hunting can be a real challenge

vocals and patience.......late season tactics that work for me.

Randy Anderson sells a set of educational tapes by Bill Austin that is fantastic on learning how to howl and the different vocalizations of coyotes.

When you learn the coyote language, you are way ahead of the game.

Agreed. My coyote hunting has become less each year, but I can say that about my deer hunting too! It does seem like everybody and their brother is out there chasing them these days but I do know they can't be killed from the couch. Gotta stay after them and learning vocals was by far my biggest EDGE in all my coyote hunting tactics.

Problem is most won't take the time to learn them nor will they take the extra time on stand to make them beneficial.

But they will use them and you know what happens then...

It's those guys with the attention span of a gnat who've educated coyotes on all the FoxPro sounds, and the use of vocalizations by the White Man. I've got a buddy who hunts with an old Johnny Stewart---------the one with the 50ft cord---------and it sounds like crap. BUT it's a sound the dogs haven't heard, so they still come in.

Around here there's not only heavy calling pressure, but also wholesale slaughter with helicopters. The ranchers pay to have the coyotes thinned down prior to calving season, and shotgunning out of a chopper is a very efficient method. Miraculously the coyotes haven't been eradicated, but it definitely reduces the number of dogs available for the ground hunters each year.

The federal trappers are using both airplanes and now set guns. It is only legal on private land, and I guess state land as they have posters up on a state section west of town..

But I must agree, since the interest in coyote calling and contests have flourished, hunting the old dog has gotten much tougher.. But we still manage to bag a few..

Keith, that is good information about Bill Austin.. I may order those.. I hunted with Bill a bit, and had some of his kids in class... Gone way before his time..

There's more to it than just that. Some of those older Johnny Stewart recordings are a coyotes worst enemy. Those sounds will flat-out call in coyotes when used in the right places at the right times. I'd rather be toting around an ecaller loaded with Stewart distress sounds than most of Foxpros. Add to that some Foxpro pup distress & female howls and a person has about all they need to call in coyotes.

You guys been looking at my play list or what?

I laugh at the guys touting the latest realistic sounds recorded with the latest digital equipment available. Those old JS sounds call critters like no other.

Yep.... every dip-schit has a FoxPro now....

Shhh.....You guys shut up about the Johnny Stewart sounds!

This dip-schit had better luck on my old Johnny Stewart with the cord and the battery dying in the cold than my FoxPro

This dip-schitt has had far more luck this year simply barking like a small dog using a custom open reed call.... than I have with the FoxPro, though they've both put a little fur in the pile.

Thanks for the reports on the Johnny Stewart calls. I really like the handiness of the cordless FoxPro, but I'll suffer the inconveniences if it ups my results. Time to shop for a Johnny.

JS sounds will go onto a FP caller...

Or any other brand that allows you to program them. I even recorded my own sounds for days when I'm lazy.

Get a good programmable remote caller.

OK thanks. I've had a FoxPro for a few years, but have never ventured beyond the factory installed sounds I ordered.

I did just order Crit'R Call's Song Dog and Magnum calls and a CD on dog vocals. Major Boddicker comes pretty highly recommended, so between the CD and the book that comes with the Song Dog, hopefully I emerge from the other end a lot smarter.

I've successfully used FoxPro dog vocals, but probably mostly scared dogs off with my mouth call efforts. I realize if I'm going to call in yotes by speaking "dog" I've got to do so without sounding like an out-of-towner. Pretty sure I need more practice AND some better instruction than what I've tried to pick up from studying Randy Anderson's vids.

The main thing is to not sound aggressive, coyotes are social critters until they settle in to raise pups. I never use a challenge howl unless I get challenged and even then I don't want to sound like a dominate coyote. I want them to come run me off, not to decide to leave the country.

Great tip, thanks. I tend to do that in the human world, so I'm probably doing it with the coyotes too.

Coyotes are coming in to their mating season soon in this region. How do you put sex in a howl?

You're the intruder, coyotes are starting to pair up and claim territory, territory they will defend. It's not that complicated thank goodness. Just know that you still need to sneak in and sit at least 20 minutes before sneaking out.

Or you could try calling in some sexy nighty instead of camo.

i've been trying some marvin gaye songs i loaded, but have only called in a few fat chicks so far.

Much like coyotes circling down wind..... Buffalo Girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside....

Awesome, never would have thought Eminem was a campfire member. Hehe.

I notice most replies are coming from west of the Mississippi R. At least you have more open country to hunt, and probably a higher population of coyotes than in states farther east. Where I live and hunt land is diced up into 1 miles squares with houses, businesses, and mini farms along almost every side. Calling gets responses from any and every domestic dog within hearing. Understandably, coyotes are extremely reluctant to respond because human activities start before sunrise and continue until well after sunset. I have exclusive permission to call on a large number of properties but that doesn't prevent anyone from calling right across the fence from me and that happens quite often. I could go on and on, but the point is that calling coyotes in some states is an EXTREMELY low odds way to take them because of existing conditions. Pressure from so many others doing the same thing is just one more. Anyone who thinks a 10pt buck is a trophy ought to try to call in and kill a coyote.

I have kilt a few with a chicken inna cage, and the air sprayed with mixed up dog, coyote coon, piss, etc.

A hen or a rooster?

in-heat piss?......

I can't see where any of his stuff includes bill Austin.

Funny how it's always "the other guy" that's screwing everything up?

Just an observation.

Wolf wistle of course. Buy it from JC whitney...

Calling has taken a serious dive in effectiveness in these parts since the popularity of E-callers has spiked. Lot of guys that call from the pickup, plenty of others that don't make it more than a few yards off the road. Once you educate them in some way, coyotes can be pretty hard to fool again. The end result is coyotes that will sit in the hills at 5-600 yards and howl at you a little before running off. I've had the greatest success with hand calls and giving them something they haven't heard. Being able to talk back using coyote sounds is also a must. Doesn't change the fact that calling is a lot tougher now than in the past.

Calling is tougher in many areas than it used to be. No question about that, but it doesn't detract from the "fun" for me. The greater the challenge, the greater the reward.