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Posted By: Rooster440 Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/03/19
Good evening, I'm looking to get some information on deadmans bay on Kodiak. It's looks pretty mountainous from google earth. Anybody here hunt deer from that bay? I'm looking at either the cabin or hiking in from the end of the bay. Thoughts? Thanks guys.
Posted By: FishinHank Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/03/19
Ever since they did a show from that cabin it has gotten hammered.
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Somebody did a show there?
Posted By: FishinHank Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Yep, at least one that I know of. Pretty sure it was Alaska Outdoors Television, not 100% sure though.
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
That whole bay gets hit hard then?
Posted By: FishinHank Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
I know it gets hit pretty hard for goats, not positive for deer.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Hey, how ya feeling, sir?
Posted By: WDH Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Not my first choice for deer or goats. I’m sure our resident expert on everything in the world will chime in
Posted By: 79S Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by WDH
Not my first choice for deer or goats. I’m sure our resident expert on everything in the world will chime in


well, thank you for the lead in.. Deadman Bay, hhmm yes do it.. Or as the nike commercial says just do it! let me go refill my tobacco pipe gents and refill my cup with some Booker T.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by FishinHank
Ever since they did a show from that cabin it has gotten hammered.

Actually, all of the Refuge cabins have been well known forever. They are okay very early in the season and during the peak of the rut. Other than that they get hammered hard and trophy deer are scarce in the vicinity of any of the cabins.

It is fairly steep, but mostly open. There are no spruce patches of consequence, but a fair bit of alder. early in the season the bear grass is ridiculously high. Most years it is broken down by snow and heavy weather by November, but not always. It is miserable to hunt because the deer disappear in it. It is not what I would call mountainous near the cabin.

Watch carefully for pushkie! The Anglo word for it is cow parsnip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleum_lanatum

After it frosts the main stem stays upright and the leaves and such fall down around it and turn to snot. Ice and pushkie snot can kill you!

Should be good deer hunting as it is far enough south that heavy winters do not usually get there.

Hunting all over Kodiak by boat we always avoid the cabins... getting just far enough ti hunt the areas the ground-based hunters would not reach, but where they would push the deer.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by WDH
Not my first choice for deer or goats. I’m sure our resident expert on everything in the world will chime in


well, thank you for the lead in.. Deadman Bay, hhmm yes do it.. Or as the nike commercial says just do it! let me go refill my tobacco pipe gents and refill my cup with some Booker T.

Why quote that idiot? My house is owned free and clear and has been for decades. I do not need a loft in a little man's world to stay, even though it is rent free! I also have the drooler on ignore and only see it when the loser is quoted...
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by FishinHank
I know it gets hit pretty hard for goats, not positive for deer.


The Unit get s hard for goats, because there are lots of goats there... but the cabin does not really do a lot for land-based goat hunters. If they are going to get a drop off they might as well get dropped off closer to the goats. There are a lot of goats up there and looking for a good goat in small groups does not make a lot of sense, IMO&E.
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
I'm looking at mid to late October.
Posted By: 79S Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by WDH
Not my first choice for deer or goats. I’m sure our resident expert on everything in the world will chime in


well, thank you for the lead in.. Deadman Bay, hhmm yes do it.. Or as the nike commercial says just do it! let me go refill my tobacco pipe gents and refill my cup with some Booker T.

Why quote that idiot? My house is owned free and clear and has been for decades. I do not need a loft in a little man's world to stay, even though it is rent free! I also have the drooler on ignore and only see it when the loser is quoted...


It's aksagebrush the smartest guy from Wyoming... lol
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by WDH
Not my first choice for deer or goats. I’m sure our resident expert on everything in the world will chime in


well, thank you for the lead in.. Deadman Bay, hhmm yes do it.. Or as the nike commercial says just do it! let me go refill my tobacco pipe gents and refill my cup with some Booker T.

Why quote that idiot? My house is owned free and clear and has been for decades. I do not need a loft in a little man's world to stay, even though it is rent free! I also have the drooler on ignore and only see it when the loser is quoted...


It's aksagebrush the smartest guy from Wyoming... lol

Lowering average IQs everywhere he goes and raising them all along his backtrail.
Posted By: las Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
And the smell of urine is everywhere.... smile
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Originally Posted by las
And the smell of urine is everywhere.... smile

I believe you were contributing to the aroma when the idiot first showed up as a butthurt idiot. He took exception to the concept that moose antlers remain pretty much the same shape as they mature. He has proven an inability to think logically ever since...
Posted By: las Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/04/19
Moi???? smile

Ignorance can be cured, tho not necessarily is it curable.

I'm a case in point.....
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
So if the areas near the cabins get nailed pretty hard, anyone have any suggestions on areas to hunt? Haven't hunted Kodiak yet, always wanted to. Looking for a great adventure.
Posted By: PaulBarnard Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Are you thinking of trying a do-it-yourself trip or hiring a guide?
Posted By: las Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Buy a boat... me, I know someone for next year, - and it ain't Sitka Deer, the cheap bastard who has never invited me. smile

And we have toropedos. Not to be confused with torpedos.

Or says the skipper, who doesn't drink. Problematic character....
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Originally Posted by Rooster440
So if the areas near the cabins get nailed pretty hard, anyone have any suggestions on areas to hunt? Haven't hunted Kodiak yet, always wanted to. Looking for a great adventure.


Pretty much look at the public use cabins and stay a fair distance away. The winter a few years back put a serious hurt on the deer on the entire north end of the island. Deer anywhere farther south did better. There are lots of boat-based charters that work all over down there and you would be hunting different areas every day. With boats you get your bear bait back on the boat every day and you do not have to worry about bears getting it or tearing up your tent.

Uyak Bay, Deadman, Olga, and Horsemarine Lake are all good drop-off points, but that can lead to the same problem as the cabins, but a bit of hiking can usually remedy that. And if you want to find a big buck you will need to get way high and farther than everyone else goes. You will need to pass on a lot of bucks to find one of more than modest proportions. Jap Bay is not really far enough south from what I have heard. The farther south the more mature bucks survived.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Originally Posted by las
Buy a boat... me, I know someone for next year, - and it ain't Sitka Deer, the cheap bastard who has never invited me. smile

And we have toropedos. Not to be confused with torpedos.

Or says the skipper, who doesn't drink. Problematic character....


You never got the invitation? I thought you were just snubbing me!

wink
Posted By: las Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Lost in the mail, I guess. Damn that USPS!

You actually want money for fuel for this? Crass! smile

Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Originally Posted by las
Lost in the mail, I guess. Damn that USPS!

You actually want money for fuel for this? Crass! smile


Being a hardass over gas money is a tough way to start a relationship!
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Are you thinking of trying a do-it-yourself trip or hiring a guide?


DIY or a transporter. I've spoken to quite a few transporters and that seems like a great way to go but DIY is always fun.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/05/19
Originally Posted by Rooster440
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Are you thinking of trying a do-it-yourself trip or hiring a guide?


DIY or a transporter. I've spoken to quite a few transporters and that seems like a great way to go but DIY is always fun.

Due to potential weather, cost of transporting a camp and meat on the return, likelihood of weather delays, and a lot of extra reasons and costs boat transporters make a lot of sense. If you are delayed by weather you will be more comfortable on a boat. You also have far fewer bear issues.

Most of your hunting will start steeply from the beach... deer can be gutted and dragged out whole to the beach. Have found that faster and easier than quartering and carrying.
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by Rooster440
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Are you thinking of trying a do-it-yourself trip or hiring a guide?


DIY or a transporter. I've spoken to quite a few transporters and that seems like a great way to go but DIY is always fun.

Due to potential weather, cost of transporting a camp and meat on the return, likelihood of weather delays, and a lot of extra reasons and costs boat transporters make a lot of sense. If you are delayed by weather you will be more comfortable on a boat. You also have far fewer bear issues.

Most of your hunting will start steeply from the beach... deer can be gutted and dragged out whole to the beach. Have found that faster and easier than quartering and carrying.


I appreciate the information!
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
Originally Posted by Rooster440
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by Rooster440
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Are you thinking of trying a do-it-yourself trip or hiring a guide?


DIY or a transporter. I've spoken to quite a few transporters and that seems like a great way to go but DIY is always fun.

Due to potential weather, cost of transporting a camp and meat on the return, likelihood of weather delays, and a lot of extra reasons and costs boat transporters make a lot of sense. If you are delayed by weather you will be more comfortable on a boat. You also have far fewer bear issues.

Most of your hunting will start steeply from the beach... deer can be gutted and dragged out whole to the beach. Have found that faster and easier than quartering and carrying.


I appreciate the information!

I only ran a charter boat there for 20 years...
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
On your, "NO WAY, Never, No How List" you should put the Ten Bears.

Good boats to look at would include the Sourdough out of Homer.
I do not think Chris Fajala is still running the U-Rascal but he is competent and experienced and the most ridiculously good fisherman in the area for sports gear. He would be a great choice if he is going far enough south.
Three Bears is an outstanding boat, but not sure if the old Captain is still running it.

If you look at an air transporter realize you are weight-limited...
Posted By: ironbender Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
Thoughts On the Sundy?
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
Originally Posted by ironbender
Thoughts On the Sundy?


I cannot say for sure, the vessel type is quite common, but the colors and so on remind me of another boat and I am not sure if it has been renamed? It is sitting in Dog Bay in the picture on their website.

The boat should be very capable and comfortable, just a question about the driver...
Posted By: ironbender Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
Saw it often at Rick's cabin.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/06/19
Originally Posted by ironbender
Saw it often at Rick's cabin.

Then he obviously doesn't know anything! wink

Just kidding! Should be good.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
On your, "NO WAY, Never, No How List" you should put the Ten Bears.

Good boats to look at would include the Sourdough out of Homer.
I do not think Chris Fajala is still running the U-Rascal but he is competent and experienced and the most ridiculously good fisherman in the area for sports gear. He would be a great choice if he is going far enough south.
Three Bears is an outstanding boat, but not sure if the old Captain is still running it.

If you look at an air transporter realize you are weight-limited...


They obviously blew their wad on their website......😉
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
On your, "NO WAY, Never, No How List" you should put the Ten Bears.

Good boats to look at would include the Sourdough out of Homer.
I do not think Chris Fajala is still running the U-Rascal but he is competent and experienced and the most ridiculously good fisherman in the area for sports gear. He would be a great choice if he is going far enough south.
Three Bears is an outstanding boat, but not sure if the old Captain is still running it.

If you look at an air transporter realize you are weight-limited...


They obviously blew their wad on their website......😉

I listed four boats... which website?
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Ten Bears...

First one that popped up on Kodiak on google....

http://www.tenbears.com/
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Interesting concept: hydroponics on boats...
Posted By: cwh2 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Ten bears grows the produce for three bears.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Makes as much sense as anything here!
Posted By: cwh2 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
I'm thinking nobody outside the state will understand my last post, but that's ok.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/07/19
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
On your, "NO WAY, Never, No How List" you should put the Ten Bears.

Good boats to look at would include the Sourdough out of Homer.
I do not think Chris Fajala is still running the U-Rascal but he is competent and experienced and the most ridiculously good fisherman in the area for sports gear. He would be a great choice if he is going far enough south.
Three Bears is an outstanding boat, but not sure if the old Captain is still running it.

If you look at an air transporter realize you are weight-limited...


Fiala. I fished with him a few times, great skipper! finds the white kings for his Japanese clients. He taught me a lot about Chiniak Bay, to quote him "There is a lot of stuff to hit out here", starting with Discovery Reef. smile
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/08/19
Originally Posted by kid0917
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
On your, "NO WAY, Never, No How List" you should put the Ten Bears.

Good boats to look at would include the Sourdough out of Homer.
I do not think Chris Fajala is still running the U-Rascal but he is competent and experienced and the most ridiculously good fisherman in the area for sports gear. He would be a great choice if he is going far enough south.
Three Bears is an outstanding boat, but not sure if the old Captain is still running it.

If you look at an air transporter realize you are weight-limited...


Fiala. I fished with him a few times, great skipper! finds the white kings for his Japanese clients. He taught me a lot about Chiniak Bay, to quote him "There is a lot of stuff to hit out here", starting with Discovery Reef. smile


He dubbed me "Dialectric Charters" for a lure I gave him a handful of. The prototypes worked so well he got to saving them for bad days.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/08/19
He could size up a new party of fishermen better than most. He would ignore the good ones and the pathetic ones, and coach the medium ones, that showed some promise. Had a mixup scheduling with him once; he did not miss a beat/ got me and my visiting brother linked up with Ken Cook and we had a great day with some 100# flatfish that day.
Posted By: Rooster440 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/08/19
Anybody used Kodiak charters?
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/08/19
PM on the way
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/08/19
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Interesting concept: hydroponics on boats...

wink I grew some outrageous "moss" on the hull of "Seas-Two-Feet" back when.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/08/19
For just fishing, another to pass on is Fish N Chips charters...
Posted By: WDH Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/09/19
Originally Posted by cwh2
I'm thinking nobody outside the state will understand my last post, but that's ok.


There’s a 3 bears in montana
Posted By: WDH Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/09/19
Originally Posted by WDH
Originally Posted by cwh2
I'm thinking nobody outside the state will understand my last post, but that's ok.


There’s a 3 bears in montana


Damn look at me making a Sitka deer post!!!
Posted By: las Re: Deadman Bay, Kodiak - 03/09/19
And not even Tok-ing.

And if you get that one..... smile
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