Any thoughts on this secondary explosion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9M8UwrSQpg&ab_channel=Backfire

You're seeing thermodynamics at play. Because of the timescale, this can be considered an adiabatic compression of the air inside the cavity. When this compression takes place, energy is added to the "system" and the temperature rises very quickly (like the compression stroke of an engine piston), and anything inside that is combustible can ignite. In this case, the gel surface may contain chemicals that are flammable or combustible, which may be what we see ignite in the video.

Like a diesel engine.

Only a Creedmoor can do that. It not only blows stuff up, but then blows it up again just as the victim is trying to recover. One CM = 2 bullets from a different cartridge.

Yup, the concept is often referred to as an adiabatic fire piston. Here's a pretty good demonstration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWF1go2J-Y

Like putting a little bit of oil in your piston pellet gun, has diesel like effect!

Quoted for TRUTH! This is why the 6.5mm hits way above its weight. Many moose are taken in the Scandinavian countries with 6.5 rifles, perhaps this was the caliber that MarineHawk used to down that impressive one in his avatar. Now we know.

This also explains the terminal ballistics of the 6.5 Carcano round that Lee Harvey Oswald fired that November day in Dallas, 1963. No grassy knoll shooter with a .221 Fireball XP-100 or Secret Service agent negligently firing an AR-15. NO SIR! Just the other worldly power of the 6.5.

I am eagerly awaiting Mule Deer's Gun Gack VI.V edition wherein he will explain this phenomenon is his easy to understand writing style.

What I've heard is that the Creedmoor bullets impact causing a temporary and permanent damage cavity. Then, they discharge a subtle fuel-air-explosive gas behind that has a delayed-ignition characteristic and then re-explodes the unwitting ungulate victim, just when it thinks it might possibly survive. It's not just the physical injury that debilitates the animal, but the psychological injury of the unexpected secondary explosive. Thus, the Creedmoor is not just a conventional ballistic weapon, but a double-ballistic weapon, with a tertiary psychological warfare component.

Kinda like lighting a fart?

Yes. Very good analogy.

I guess now ya'll think a man bun is important ?

Yeah, but, if the man bun gets hit by a Creedmoor, it will face a cruel triple death, which sadly will leave the owner with a non-bun.

Wish I had enough hair for a man bun

I have a good one, but you may need a magnifying glass to see it:

WOW...I was waiting for a real good reason to get one..this is it!

A man bun, especially a microscopic one, can do wonders. It gives you bun-power without bun-optics.

That is really cool. I had no idea. The Creedmagic really is!

I'm seeing signs of a touch of CDS in this thread.

Yeah, thankfully, there are a lot of Consumer-Driven Services implicated in this thread. http://www.cdsdirectory.org/

What I want to know is how to show a video instead of a bland link?

Some 6.5 Creedmoor loads even show tertiary explosion, especially in really fat animals where their interior blubber ignites.

My interior blubber is igniting right now, and I don't even know why? I'm not sure if I have been hit by a Creedmoor or not, but please help.

I blubber just reading this stuff......

Real men use HE Quick and don’t bother with man buns.

hunstman,

All I know is, explosions aside, the 6.5 CM kills stuff just as "well" (however that's defined) as the .270 Winchester--which has crumpled big game including bull elk and moose for me and my wife for around 40 years now. But obviously the .270 is another Campfire man-bun round these days....

I would like to see that test repeated with a good expanding bullet

My interior blubber is virtually gone! Thank you Creedmoor or whatever it was. Wait, I'm getting even more blubbery now.

You mean like this?:

You guys are awesome Scientists!

Worthy of Fauci’s team!

I've shot or been present during the shooting of multiple thousands of rounds into ballistic gelatine. I would guess I've run high-speed video on multiple hundreds of those types of shots.

I've never seen an "explosion" as depicted in the video. I have seen reflection of the lights used for the video, though.

FYI, the "Ballistics Gelatine" shown in the video is not the industry standard 250A. It appears to be clear gel.

In fairness, I don't know how many HS videos of 6.5 CM I've participated in.

That likely is because the second CM blast-waves generated such trauma that they prevent you from recalling any of them.

Don't tease me because I'm sensitive!

If we can get that info out to the animals before the season starts, we should be able to just walk out to the woods, hold up a round of 6.5 Creedelymore and announce to the critters we are coming to get them.

That " psychological injury" you so rightly mentioned can be put to good use in these times of ammo and component shortages. No need to waste a round, once trained the deers will flop over dead upon hearing our opening morning announcement.

Those that don't die immediately will likely be so psychologically traumatized as to stand there so one could knife stick them in the jugular, again saving ammo for the coming appocolypse.

If necessary, we can put out some video screens in our local hunting spots to show that youtube vid to the local cervid population in the pre-season cud chewing hours. Tactical reinforcement of the " psychological injury" aspect. Kind of like WWII pamphlet dropping.

Sort of like everything within a certain radius going instantly insane when Cthulhu awakens.

Fear not the teasing!

The self protection part of your brain will erase all memory of this entire thread.

Exactly like the "flashy thing" in MEN IN BLACK...which might be occasionally useful here.

Well, if we don’t all become aware of the Creedmoor’s double-explosive penetrating power and tertiary psychological impairment of its victims, we all could be enslaved by a growing crowd of Creedmoor owners who realize that they have such a super-superior weapon, and we, and all ungulates, are powerless against it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. To paraphrase Paul Revere, “the Creedmoor’s are coming”!

Even the Founders, in enacting the Second Amendment, did not envision the development of the Creedmoor.

Not to mention the turmoil of an impending earthquake.

Imagine if all three were to occur at the same time?



I wonder if Rick has ever looked into such a thing for use on certain members? I hear he has connections.

The flash is the just the booster rocket kicking in giving it the power to " hit above its' weight" . The 270 WCF does the same thing but the flash is so much faster that we've yet to make a camera that can capture it.

Just my thoughts. YMMV

RedneckRob,

That's probably related to what I was firmly told about the 270 by more than one of my older hunting mentors: .270 bullets enter big game at such at such high velocities they don't have "time" to expand inside a deer or elk.

Perhaps the expansion-flash occurred after .270 bullets exited, which of course wouldn't be seen by the hunter.....

All in all this is enlightening news. To think that this can happen in the puny 6.5 Creed makes me just imagine the atomic explosion that goes on with the same bullet from "nonman bun" 264mag or 6.5/300. All is not lost yet.... 😁😁😁

Wow, I have never seen that before. Interesting.