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How did a Remington "Custom" manufactured back in 1973 differ from a BDL or a "Safari" grade? Were these rifles more accurate because of the many hand fitting stages during production?

What do you suppose a mint .270 is worth today if the Custom "C" rifles sold for $500.- back in 1977, twice the price of a standard BDL?

Thanks for your replies.

Believe the C's of that era were genuine products of Remingtons Custom shop. All that I have seen and/or handled had well fitted, nicely finished, warm color walnut stocks.
The BDLs were production guns with some pretty marginal stamped checkering and a high gloss finish. Maybe they were trying to emulate the Weatherby's of the day. Generally good shooters though.
The few folks that were smart enough, lucky enough, or shrewd enough, to own one of the C rifles never seem to part with them. I have never seen one I would not liked to have owned.
As to value, I don't know, but they should bring some sort of premium.

Maybe. I would guess the odds were it would be a bit more accurate. Exactly how much checking of chamber, receiver, and bolt alignment was done I don't know.



Given that most M700 (BDL or otherwise) asking prices are often quite a bit more than what they actually sell for, I am going to say $200-$300 more for a C Grade.

In other words, unless it's LNIB, I'd say somewhere between $500 and $700.

Blued, standard contour barrels, chambered in L/A cartridges, are pretty common and not currently in the same demand as SS, Mtn barrels, and S/A rifles......



Casey

Your "advice" would be great if this were 1991.

Even in this economy, $500 -$700 will barely buy a nice used STANDARD m700 BDL made in the 1970's let alone a "C" grade custom shop gun.

Used Walnut stocked m700 custom shop "C" grade rifles in nice shape start at $1,000. They have commanded those prices for at least 15 years or so. Only a damn fool would give one away for less.

The "C" grades are VERY easy to distinguish form the regular BDL rifles. I have NEVER seen one without AA-AA grade figure in the wood. Also, the tips and grip caps are Rosewood- not black plastic.

If it can be verified as a 1970's custom shop "C" grade, has nicely figured wood and is truly mint- the gun is worth about $1,250 to $1,500.

There are dozens of used BDLs on Gunbroker completed auctions, that either sold or didn't even draw a bid at under $500.

I don't know where you're at, but everywhere else--including the Campfire's own classifieds a standard M700 doesn't sell for for that.

Whether it is the prices here in Colorado, or KSL in Utah, or Gunbroker, watch what happens when a hopeful (and sometimes naive) seller tires to get those prices....they set there, and set there........and set there......

Asking price and selling price are two different things. And in the post 2008 market, bolt rifles are a dime-a-dozen.




See above.....



Casey

Bullschit.

LOOK at those auction listings.

Don't confuse plastic stocked SPS and ADLs with BDLs

There are NO walnut stocked BDLs that sell for less than $500 on that site regularly. The ones that get "no bids" have RESERVE prices over $500 them have reserve price(Which is why nobody bid).

Hell, a brand new NIB BDL now costs over $750 wholesale.

Casey,

You are talking out of your ass on this one. You need to actually LOOK at the classifieds here and see what is going on rather than just make schit up.

We are NOT talking about PLASTIC STOCKED SPS, ADLs etc.

Any WALNUT STOCKED m700 BDL you see listed on the campfire classifieds brings $500+++ if its in mint rifle. Period.
If its an older vintage gun in a short action caliber- they sell for even more.

As a matter of fact, you rarely see them for sale anymore.

Folks now how much the BDLS have gone up. A NIB BDL currently made runs $800 + in most gun shops.

Bottom line is anyone who sells a "C" grade m700 for the prices YOU quoted is a damn fool.

Save your internet gutter talk for those who are impressed with your wishfull thinking.

Either act like a human being or I'm done with you.



Casey

Wishfull thing?

YOU are the IDIOT who is advising a man to GIVE AWAY a mint condition m700 "C" grade for $700 or less.

As far as being "done" with me? You flatter yourself ,moron.

I only responded to your DRIVEL above so that the OP here would not give his rifle away based on your IGNORANT "advice".

Thanks for your responses. A little update...

The 700 "C" according to the 1967 "Shooters Bible" came with the following features:

1) target rifle trigger pull
2) hand checkered walnut stocks, rosewood fore end and grip cap
3) hand fitting
4) hand lapped and hand bedded, highly polished barrel

The particle Model "C" I'm PURCHASING is chambered for .270 Win with a 24 barrel, no sights but a Weaver V9 Micro-trac scope. It's been a "safe queen" all it's days, running 98-99% condition metal and wood.

Okay, you can't act like a human being.


Carry on....
Casey

And you are not even smart enough to BE Human.

GFY.

Bye.

What does the amount wood figure look like?

They do vary a bit. The fancier the wood the higher the value-

Do a Google search with Remington Custom Shop grade C and you'll find none that went for less than a grand. There're 3 thousand list new

Exactly.

m700 "C" grades have been over $2,000 new for about 10 years now.

But for every one that sells for $1000+, there are those that don't sell at all. Or sell for less.

It's kinda' like M700 Classics. One sold for $600 on the classifeds here recently, then there are a half dozen that sold for less, or not at all.

But everybody remembers the high priced one that sold.

As realtors like to say--Everybody remembers the $200k home that sold for $220k, but everybody forgets about the other nine $200k houses that sold for $190K.

But if you find a minty 99% condition 1970's era BDL or Classic, it is worth more too.



Casey

The walnut is a simply fiddleback probably only AA grade, not as highly figured as some of the later rifles I've seen. The tiger striping is consistent front to back, evenly on both sides.

Pull your head out of your ass, dummy.

Stop making schit up to prop up your lame argument.

Show any of us ONE documented case in the last year where a mint condition custom shop Remington m700 "C" grade-In ANY caliber ,of ANY vintage- sold for less than a grand.

Well, wood figure type is a matter of taste, but full fiddleback the length of the stock would definitely be "C" grade wood.

Casey, don't know if you're right or wrong and I'm not looking to argue with you (I save that for Eremicus ). I only did a quick search for Remington Custom Shop grade C and came across a 250 Savage that sold for 1500 and a 30/06 that looked kinda plain that sold for $1199. I didn't see anything that was less than $1199. I'm sure if someone searched hard enough they could find where someone sold one for less than a grand, especially in today's market with folks hurting for cash.

Here's a 1980 vintage C Grade 25-06 started at $2000. Let's see if anybody actually......puts a bid on it.

It's got 3 days to go.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215532421



Casey

Here's one that sold for $1550 in 250 Savage....

[i]Remington Custom Shop grade "C[/i]"

Maybe I'm off on price by $200-$300 (I'm cheap that way).........

A $1000-$1200 may be selling price for a C Grade. I always wonder how many times they are offered for sale before somebody actually buys it.

There are currently 3 C Grades on Gunbroker priced between $2000-$3000, but no bidders. One of those are advertised as brand new.

Casey

I've seen CDL's and BDL's with better wood than that.

S/A, uncommon caliber, classic style stock, all desirable traits currently. It certainly adds to the street value.


Casey

I have an idea. Have shrapnel list one for $1500 and he won't let it go for $1499.99. Don't recall that man ever lowering the price of anything even after relisting many many times.

A Campfire member here has a first year limited Classic in 7x57 that has as good of wood as any custom shop M700 I've seen.

I wonder what that sucker's worth........



Casey

Next time he lists something I'll lowball him--and get him all riled up....




Casey

To Swampy............priceless ! ! !

That's funny.....Next time he lists one of those Swaro HD spotters, I'll offer him 700.

Dang,thats purty!!!!

Yep.

I'm not real crazy about the grain flow in the wrist, but the total amount of figure and color is nice.

Interesting that the stock has no grip cap or tip added.

A steel grip cap and an ebony forend tip would have been a nice touch

Yes it would.

I didn't even know that the custom shop used what looks like their Classic pattern stock. Truly gorgeous!

Tony

Yup, their website doesn't begin to relect what's available. The C grade is offered with either a straight comb or the MC humper.

olgrouser,

Since you are purchasing only you know what the rifle is worth TO YOU. I assume you have seen the rifle in question. To some, having a rifle that is in very low supply is worth a premium.

If the asking price is way higher than your tolerance, just walk away. But then it will likely show up in some later post of yours as ONE I SHOULDN'T HAVE LET GET AWAY!

Have fun making your decision.

Jim

Since you find it hard to read facts, I've listed only the WOOD stocked Remington BDLs that have sold or been listed with NO RESERVE at $500 or under from only the FIRST search page.

These include 30-06, 7mag, 300mag, 204Ruger, 270, 6mm, 243, and 308. One of them was even a nice Mountain rifle mis-listed.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=200266543
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=203644950
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213513838
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=201513724
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=202338923
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213650554
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=202589070
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=201182643
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213092734
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215747331
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206933709
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=211022920
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212582344
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213071635
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=210623700
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=199853036
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=206353066
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212481820

Gentlemen, excuse me. Running basic searches on Google or Gunbroker is within anyones capabilities.

I'm still looking for NEW information on "C" grade Remington rifles or fresh details on early custom 700s that I'm not able to gather from my own reference catalogs.

Thanks.

Jim, I've committed to buying the rifle because so few of them come to market in Canada. If a custom shop 250 Savage, as mentioned earlier, came up for sale north of the border, I'd be on it like "a fat kid on a Smartie!"

WHAT does that have to do with the price of a "C" grade m700 Custom shop rifle?

Maybe you can run a search on Gunbroker for THOSE that have actually sold and do something useful.

I would think that since basic BDLs go for around $500, then a "C" grade ought to sell for about twice the price. If in very nice condition, then a little more. The point of the exercise was establishing a solid base line from which to draw conclusions. Of course, any specific gun is worth whatever someone wishes to pay for that specific gun. If you want it (which it sounds like you did), then go for it!